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A safe place for Xers to share their stories and heal.

A place to learn what it's really like in the ntcc founded by Rodger Wilson Davis;
and run by his son-in-law, Michael Craig Kekel,
the father of the one vasectomy-rule-exception kid in ntcc, Grant Davison Kekel.

Ezekiel 12:11

Say, I 'am' your sign: like as I have done, so shall it be done unto them: they shall remove 'and' go into captivity.

He Loves A House More Than God: Bonco Mansions of kekel (l) and davis (r)

He Loves A House More Than God:  Bonco Mansions of kekel (l) and davis (r)
"He loves a house more than God:" *Bonco* Mansions of kekel (l) and davis (r). Meanwhile, on the mission field: ntcc Missionaries to the Philippines "Rev. and Sis. Mackert ... found a place, 9 feet by 14 feet [9'x14'] and one bathroom. It is on the 6th floor and there is no elevator. The last place they had stayed, they had to share a common bathroom with the other tenants! Yikes! This place has their very own private bathroom, although the Rev. shared there is no seat on the throne, and no way to attach one…." from The Devonshire Files Sunday, May 28, 2006 Visit from the Mackerts (5/06). ** Should you know where the money ($$$$$) goes? **

Jesus In The Temple

Matt 21:12 And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves, Matt 21:13 And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.
Gal. 4:16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth? John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. 1 John 4:6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Skip To Blue Letter Bible Search Tool

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Friday, March 8, 2013

What Happened To Our People In Benghazi 9-11-2012?

Updated 4-11-13 New video with petition for accountability.
Originally published 10-27-12
Have we forgotten?
Photo Credit:  Blog:
My Son The Sailor


From the blog

SEAL CREED

In times of war or uncertainty there is a special breed of warrior ready to answer our Nation’s call. A common man with uncommon desire to succeed. Forged by adversity, he stands alongside America’s finest special operations forces to serve his country, the American people, and protect their way of life. I am that man.My Trident is a symbol of honor and heritage. Bestowed upon me by the heroes that have gone before, it embodies the trust of those I have sworn to protect. By wearing the Trident I accept the responsibility of my chosen profession and way of life. It is a privilege that I must earn every day. My loyalty to Country and Team is beyond reproach. I humbly serve as a guardian to my fellow Americans always ready to defend those who are unable to defend themselves. I do not advertise the nature of my work, nor seek recognition for my actions. I voluntarily accept the inherent hazards of my profession, placing the welfare and security of others before my own. I serve with honor on and off the battlefield. The ability to control my emotions and my actions, regardless of circumstance, sets me apart from other men. Uncompromising integrity is my standard. My character and honor are steadfast. My word is my bond.We expect to lead and be led. In the absence of orders I will take charge, lead my teammates and accomplish the mission. I lead by example in all situations. I will never quit. I persevere and thrive on adversity. My Nation expects me to be physically harder and mentally stronger than my enemies. If knocked down, I will get back up, every time. I will draw on every remaining ounce of strength to protect my teammates and to accomplish our mission. I am never out of the fight. We demand discipline. We expect innovation. The lives of my teammates and the success of our mission depend on me – my technical skill, tactical proficiency, and attention to detail. My training is never complete. We train for war and fight to win. I stand ready to bring the full spectrum of combat power to bear in order to achieve my mission and the goals established by my country. The execution of my duties will be swift and violent when required yet guided by the very principles that I serve to defend. Brave men have fought and died building the proud tradition and feared reputation that I am bound to uphold. In the worst of conditions, the legacy of my teammates steadies my resolve and silently guides my every deed.

I will not fail.


After reading this creed, I know it was  not an option for those men to "stand down".  They lived by this creed.
If our government will stand by and let an American Ambassador be killed, and let former Navy Seal's die while they try to defend the Ambassador and other Americans, what else would this administration do and allow?  Do we really want  a 'Commander in Chief' who neglects the military and allows Americans to be killed??  What a travesty.






Thursday, June 9, 2011

Nichelle Tieman's Adultery and Lying Revisited: NOT_Overseer Material

In a previous post titled "The Celibacy Policy" or {Forbidding to Marry, Part Two of Don's Story}, Don shared how Nichelle Tieman repeatedly tried to seduce him to have sex with her, rubbing her breasts and rear end up against him, and coming to Don's room when David Tieman, Sr. was at work, trying to convince Don to "lay with" her.  We also shared how Don reported that years of forced celibacy in the ntcc, brought on by ntcc pastors interfering and  telling women not to talk to Don and telling Don not to talk to women, helped Don give in to this temptation.  Though Nichelle and Don did not have intercourse, there was inappropriate touching going on.  


As Don shared in another thread titled "Homosexual 'Pastors' in the ntcc: Names Included"  {Part Three of Don's Story}, he had already been sexually abused by three homosexual ntcc pastors.  This abuse of authority, coupled with long years of forced celibacy made Nichelle Tieman's forward advances seem appealing at first.  In Don's words:  "At first I welcomed these advances because they made me feel like a man is supposed to feel and that is masculine."  Of course the Holy Ghost continued to convict him; and Don repented of this sin.  After praying for forgiveness, Don called Pop Gaylord and told him of his involvement with Nichelle Tieman, who had also told Don that she loved another brother, Rev. Rice, and if anything happened to her husband, David Tieman Sr., Rice was the one she would marry.  Pop Gaylord called davis and r w got on a plane to visit Colorado Springs.  


From the moment davis got off the plane at the airport, (Ange was there with the Tiemans to pick up rdub at the airport) until the day he left, r w 's demeanor was mean, gruff, condescending and condemning.  davis screamed out the 'message' "What's in YOUR books?", which really was a message for r w davis that he pitchforked onto everyone else without applying it to his own adulterous self.  Hmmn.  


Afterwards, in the kitchen, Nichelle Tieman lied and told r w davis that Ange wanted to go to bible school.  If you know anything about ntcc, you know what a nail in the relationship-coffin that was.  Don was not going to bible school.  So in ntcc this made Ange off-limits to Don.  Not only that; but Don had wanted to go to bible school and unforgiving - but - guilty - himself -  davis had not "allowed it" even though Pop Gaylord gave Don a good recommendation to go. (See "Letters From The Past", {Part One}  for proof of Pop Gaylord's good recommendation, in Mom Gaylord's own handwriting.)  Talk about a twisted diabolical scheme to keep Don living a forced life of celibacy!  Three different ntcc pastors told him or a woman he was talking to they should not be talking!  Then this lie by nichelle tieman, the adulteress!  Forcing the ntcc rule-induced separation of Don and Ange; just because nichelle lied; and davis did not "allow" Don to go to the bible school.  Why?  


Even davis knew that Don is a good brother.  In davis' own words to Don:  "I [rw] never saw the devil fight anyone as hard as he fights you [Don]".  It was also at this time that davis told Don:  "I know what happened with you [Don] and [hummel and  rudy, and the rejected advances from broadnax the homosexual pastors] was NOT MUTUAL [Don did not want homosexuality.]  But, [davis continued] I think THIS [Don's involvement with nichelle tieman] WAS MUTUAL."  Ya think?  Seven years of not even being able to talk to a woman does wear down a brother who does not have the 'gift' of celibacy!  Of course he's going to be tempted even if it was Nichelle Tieman doing the tempting.  


Why did  Nichelle approach a single brother to meet her sexual needs?  At a conference in Missouri Nichelle was telling a room full of women how bad her husband David Tieman Sr. was in bed.  She was doing it in her usual scornful manner of speaking.  If you know Nichelle, you know what we are talking about:  How she makes fun of people constantly, including her own biological brother....  In that room were church members, bible school students, and ministers' wives.  Let them come on here and say that these things we share are true; because they were there and saw and heard it too.  In fact, this incident was the reason why davis, the very next day, stopped "letting" people fellowship in the rooms at the campground!  Additionally, many people have shared how horrible the Tiemans were as overseers because of their rude, sanctimonious, holier-than-thou behavior.

That brings us to the heart of the matter. The Tiemans (Nichelle and David Sr.) can not even keep their own house in order. They should NEVER be set up as Overseers to tell others how to do ANYTHING.


To date Nichelle has never apologized to Don or Ange for her adultery and lying. This indicates her lack of repentance (impenitent).   The bible says to rebuke openly before all, that others may fear. It says to not suffer a brother to sin.  People may not like the truth; but eXposing the truth is the only way to affect repentance. The ntcc would rather lift up Nichelle and David Sr. in pride and could care less that they are impenitent. As one anonymous poster shared on Jeff Collin's blog:

Anonymous said...
Jeff, then why is the woman that this man mentioned by name one of the leaders in ntcc?
I don't know but they are going to churches and preaching around and are seen as leaders for the ntcc, if I'm not mistaken her husband is in the board of ntcc, while real men and women like the John and Rebecca Rodrigues in the phillipines are just put on the back burner so to speak.
Is that what you have to do to belong to the board? Wow and wow!!!


These things ought not to be so.  Nichelle should repent of her adultery and lying; David Sr. should repent of his lack of meeting his wife's sexual needs. Or else David Tieman Sr. should step down from the board of the ntcc and relinquish his Overseer status.  They really are not qualified.  Just ask those who have had to endure the Tiemans coming to town on their broom  in their recreational vehicle.
  
NOT nichelle tieman; but it does
evoke memories of her actions...

The ntcc wants to disregard the bible commandment concerning Overseers found in 1 Tim 3:15: 

For if a man know not how to rule his own house, 
how shall he take care of the church of God?

That's what the bible says, people.  That is what God expects.  So how about it ntcc?  Perhaps the real reason the Tiemans have been allowed to advance is because they are not the only ones with unrepented-of sins.  Perhaps the very top 'leaders' of the ntcc have impenitent hearts and seek others who have skeletons in the closet to share the board room (or bedroom) with them.  Something to think about.  Perhaps the top ntcc leaders themselves do not know how to rule their own houses and as such should not take care of the church of God!


Update:  From the comments section on this post:

Anonymous said...
Somebody was telling some years back that when the tiemans were in denver pastoring a church, they used to invite the members of thier church to come to their house and enjoy the spa that ms. tieman had found for free in the newspaper. They used to have a blast when the tiemans were pastoring there.
NOw with this info about how ms. tieman behaved with don, it is so telling what were the intentions of nichelle bringing their members to enjoy their "blessing" (spa)
1 NCO 2 Another said...
Yeah, it's as obvious as when nichelle purposely pushed Don into the water from the paddle boat that they were in on a small pond at a park near the ntcc servicemen's home in Colorado Springs (Ft. Carson) on Circle. Drive.

nichelle wanted to flirt and get a good look at Don in his wet clingy clothes. I was there and saw the whole thing. nichelle's oblivious husband david tieman sr. was there too and saw the whole thing. I could not believe my eyes! I could see very plainly that she was flirting with / coming on to Don. Is david tieman sr. that dumb or did he just not care who nichelle was throwing herself at? It really was freaky.

Of course now we all know the rest of the story with Don.

And now thanks to your post we see that this was a pattern of bad behavior exhibited by nichelle tieman. A spa? Seriously? In a HOLINESS preacher's house?

I guess the Lord really does "use that jacuzzi in mysterious ways".

Here's a link to a video that says it all:



Shaking my head. You know, I'm starting to wonder if david tieman sr. is a little gay himself? I mean; come on? How many times does your wife have to throw herself at other men to try and get your attention? Are you gay, dave? Or is nichelle some kind of nymphomaniac that you just can't keep up with her? Or do you both just need some good old fashioned counseling from a real counselor, not davis the blabber mouth who WILL air your private business from the pulpit if it suits him; (as he has boasted that he does do that.... And we've all seen and heard it too!)

I just don't get it; why do you want to continue in sin? Lying to yourselves about who you are and what you want. Why not just go out and be REAL bad girls or bad boys and quit pretending?

Or better still, why not go to the cross and really get a touch of salvation and healing from Jesus Christ the Merciful?

Are you really that proud that you'd rather go to hell for halfway-living in sin?

You don't have to. Repentance is one prayer away. Forgiveness is yours for the asking.

(Don and) Ange
Related Stories:


To See All Related Stories In Mobile View, click this label "Don's Story"


Or, to view each part alone:


1)  Why I Left The ntcc


2)  The Celibacy Policy


3)  Homosexual Pastors

Saturday, May 28, 2011

The Only Good Cat, Is A Dead Cat: Part Two of the ntcc No Pet Rule Now Called a 'Policy'

 "The only GOOD cat is a DEAD cat!" --r w davis 
I have to confess that for years I subscribed to this idiotic mantra, cringing at the mere thought of cats, yelling "Amen!" when davis 'preached' against these fuzzy four-footed creatures, adding my story of a vindictive cat waiting under the bed to scratch my ankles for a previous accidental encounter with its tail under my foot.  Now I look back at all this and wonder; "What do pets have to do with the gospel of Jesus Christ?"  The answer, of course, is nothing.  Pets have nothing to do with the gospel of Christ.  And neither does r w davis.  davis just used the gospel of Christ to cull a group of "loyal" = "tithe-paying" followers.  And 'preaching' about pets has everything to do with following.  It is just one more control mechanism, one more gauge to test davis' disciples' loyalty to their fearful leader.

Davis would love for you to flip the switch!
davis used to get his followers all "whipped-up" (see above picture) shouting about such no-pet nonsense from the pulpit, letting people know where their loyalty had better be with commanding statements like, "Don't invite me to your house if you have a cat; I won't come." He would stand there with an impudent thrust of the chin and raised eyebrow, with a slight turn of the head, glaring down at the crowd to see who is showing wide-eyed fear and shaking their heads no, silently bringing themselves once again into subjection to this tyrant davis, as if to say, "Oh no, Pastor; we won't have any pets.  Please, please, please come to our house.  We want to be next week's pulpit fodder when you blast us from on high for serving you that 'pine-bark junk' instead of your favorite coffee and mistakenly roasting a beef when you only want pork."   Could this fascination with pork, the other 'white' meat be a subliminal problem davis has with anyone or anything that isn't 'white'?

Then the 'preaching' would continue:
"You know; cats carry more diseases than any other creature!"  Another volley of "Amens" would rise from the faithful, mothers would shudder and draw their children closer, fathers would make a mental note to go to the pound with 'Whiskers' right after service, and single brothers would pray for "the opportunity" to send any stray to meet its Maker, dispatching them by crossing that white line on the side of the road or (crossing another line, the line of common decency) by drowning them in a sack tossed over the bridge, callously ignoring little kitten mews for mercy; the davis disciple throwing his shoulders back to shrug off conviction, leaning his head back to laugh, congratulating himself that this deed, when shared boastfully at the 'fellowhip' table, would somehow bring him closer to the one he admires and wants to be, 'pastor' davis.  Let's all bow in reverence to a man.  Ahem.  Idolaters!

You think we are making this up?

Think again.  It's been discussed at length in other blog posts at other times:

Related stories:

1)  Scat Cat! on Jeff's blog:
"Jeff said...
The practice of hating and KILLING cats was "taught and advocated" by the NTCC hence fitting the dictionary definition of the word "doctrine". I can emphatically state that as fact while quantifying my stance.
One very respected and highly regarded NTCC pastor personally told me the he and other brothers would drown cats in a well of water. He laughed about this fact quite gleefully."
2)  ntcc:  Cult or not? on Jeff's blog:
The NTCC is a church which is full of little Kitty Cat haters. They think that Cats are evil.
3)  Kill 'em All:  r w davis' stance / No Pet Rule now called a policy:
http://ntccxerblog.blogspot.com/2011/02/kill-em-all-rodger-w-davis-stance-on.html

 WHY SHOOT 2 DOGS AND 
AXE-OFF PUPPIES HEADS? 
 ASK RODGER W. DAVIS
 THOSE WERE HIS ORDERS. 
A look at animal abuse as a prelude to 
and an indicator of other abuse:
"without natural affection"

As you read these articles and watch the video below, ask yourself what is davis really teaching and why does he teach it?  Don't davis doctrines harm the gospel while doing everything to lift up a man as a ruler over all who sit before his pulpit?  Decide for yourself.

Cute Kittens Fly In Slow Motion To Hip Hop Dubstep *no kittens were hurt* ^_^




Wednesday, May 4, 2011

I Still Believe In That by Ash Bowers

Make no mistake, they're out there.  Hypocrites like rodger davis who will tell you "children hinder the work of the lawd" while he and his second wife,verna, lie about adopting tanya maxamillia reynolds davis kekel.  That's why it is important to base your faith on only the blood of Jesus Christ, His finished work of the cross, His mercy that is a GIFT.  Otherwise you will be stuck seeking the approval of a hypocrite like davis or his selfish son-in-law mike kekel who will laugh at your need and try to break up your marriage, all in the name of the Lord.  Don't fall for their lies.  Just look to the Lord Who bought you with His blood, His sinless sacrifice, your price paid in full.

I Still Believe In That by Ash Bowers video link

Wednesday, February 23, 2011

"Kill 'em All!" -- rodger w. davis' stance on puppies: Part One of the NTCC No-Pet Rule, Now Called a 'Policy'

New Testament Christian Church No Pet Rule Now Called A Policy - Dog Cringes in Fear before a Revolver / Handgun
 WHY SHOOT 2 DOGS AND AXE-OFF  PUPPIES' HEADS?
 ASK RODGER W. DAVIS.
 THOSE WERE HIS ORDERS. 


Five Adorable Puppies Watch Below or on YouTube


Isn't this one of the cutest videos you've ever seen?  Puppies are just precious!

But to strange minds like rodger w. davis...  puppies and German Shepherds are things to kill...

Wendy and Lion were two beautiful German Shepherds owned by michael c. kekel and rodger w. davis.  These two dogs came from the same litter.  They loved to jump the fence that separated them and go play together.  davis ordered elliot f. gesang to kill these dogs.  So elliot f. gesang took Wendy and Lion out in the woods and shot them dead.

Could you kill an innocent pup like the one in the following video?

Beagle Puppy Howl Watch Below or on YouTube

In a separate incident rodger w. davis ordered another minister to take a whole litter of puppies and chop off their heads with an axe; the other minister did so, crying.

Child abusers torture animals in front of kids to terrify them, sending them the message:  "You're next!"

Serial murderers start with killing animals; they say they do this "To see what it feels like to kill something."

It's all about control / domination -- perverse pleasure at killing innocents [puppies] and innocence [the trust you had in that power monger who orchestrated this test of your loyalty to him to see if you would break your own code of decency and ethics to be obedient (subservient) to him.]...

It's no joke.  davis is sick.  He wants to break you; so he can run your life in order to profit ($$$) himself.  Dead puppies?  You gotta be kidding us!  When we see puppies we think, "Oh, so cute!  They need shelter and food.  Let us take you home and love you!"

When davis sees puppies he sees $$$ leaving his wallet.  That is intolerable to a man whose god is the 'almighty dollar'.  He uses these puppies for his gain.  "Kill 'em all" and I will know that you will fall on your sword for me...

Sick.  Sick.  Sick.

Golden Retriever Puppies  Watch Below Or On YouTube

A righteous [man] regardeth the life of his beast: but the tender mercies of the wicked [are] cruel.
Prov. 12:10

Once again we see rodger w. davis' actions placing him on the wrong side of the Word of God.  Could you kill these innocents to please r w davis?  Why?  The bible clearly states that the righteous man regardeth THE LIFE of his beast.  The righteous man does not randomly slay innocent puppies for perverse pleasure!  davis has shown that he is wicked, his tender mercies [are] cruel.  Why stay and be part of a group run by a "wicked" man with "cruel tender mercies"?

Related posts:

The Only Good Cat, Is a Dead Cat:  Part Two Of the ntcc "No Pet Rule" Now Called a Policy



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Wednesday, February 16, 2011

Defend Against Enemies Foreign And Domestic: A Former U.S. Army Sergeant Speaks Out Against The New Testament Christian Church*

Ange's Awards
Over on Chief's Blog, New Testament Christian Church, The Real Story, on a thread titled What A Waste,

1 NCO 2 Another said, "We served together 25 years ago in the United States Army and swore "to defend against all enemies foreign and domestic.""

I too fit that statement, and took that oath.  I served the U.S. Army happily for four years.  And I had an unblemished record with nine medals / awards, the opportunity to re-enlist as a Staff Sergeant (E-6), the honor of being the soldier of the year for the whole 4th Infantry Division (which I forfeited to follow ntcc 'policies' [rules]), and the offer to go to Officer Candidates' School, again forfeited due to ntcc rules.
Having learned all I have about ntcc, I now consider it my duty to the Armed Forces of America "to defend against all enemies foreign and domestic"... and that means the ntcc should be considered an enemy of the Armed Forces of America.
ntcc is definitely an enemy to the United States military!  The ntcc abuses, uses, and discards its members who come primarily from the military!  And we're not the only ones testifying of this abuse.  More testimony click here.

ntcc steals these young impressionable G.I.s from the military.  ntcc takes their tithe and offering money.  ntcc deprives the young troops of sleep.  ntcc cuts-off the young troops from all functions except those related to ntcc cult activities.  ntcc even discourages furthering one's military training, education, schooling, and exercises that could further one's military career.  Why?  Because ntcc wants YOU.  They want to steal you out of the military and send you to their boot camp, the New Testament Christian Church Seminary / Bible School.  They want you to leave the military and become a recruiter for the ntcc Ministry Machine.  They want you to continue to sacrifice all your time, your money, and your military career so that ntcc can profit from your sacrifice.
The ntcc is full of former military members that ended successful military careers to become cult recruiters for the ntcc real-estate expansion corporation.
How do I know?  I did it.  My late ex-husband, former U.S. Army Sergeant, Eric James Barden did it.  The ntcc is full of former military members that ended successful military careers to become cult recruiters for the ntcc real-estate expansion corporation.  While they are in the military, these troops provide ntcc a constant flow of cash.  Once they bow to ntcc pressure to leave the military, these former troops provide ntcc a constant flow of warm bodies to the New Testament Christian Churches of America, Inc.  Seminary / Bible School.  There they learn how to repeat the recruiting and fleecing process, thereby building up the ntcc ministry machine...
While they are in the military, these troops provide ntcc a constant flow of cash.  Once they bow to ntcc pressure to leave the military, these former troops provide ntcc a constant flow of warm bodies to the New Testament Christian Churches Of America, Inc.  Seminary / Bible School.
ntcc is indeed an enemy to our military forces!  They actively recruit on military bases around the world.  In my opinion ntcc should not be allowed to do so any longer; because ntcc has a proven track record of undermining the military by stealing its best troopers away from service to their country!  I know.  It happened to me and to hundreds of others who have now left ntcc and are trying to rebuild their lives and regain what ntcc took from them.  If one ounce of prevention is worth one pound of cure, we are here to administer that ounce of prevention:  Fore-Warned is Fore-Armed.
*"New Testament Christian Churches of America, Inc" or NTCC, founded by Rodger Wilson Davis, with headquarters in Graham, Wa. and roots in St. Louis, Missouri.  NTCC is registered with the Secretary of State of Missouri as a non-profit corporation.
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Wednesday, October 20, 2010

Pitchfork Religion or Fishy Doctrine

mike kekel put together a blog post from material written by others that he used in an effort to accuse Xers of wrongdoing just because they no longer attend ntcc and have stated why they won't follow hypocrites like kekel and davis.  What is sad but true is that kekel's blog post does a better job of condemning him and davis than it does of condemning  Xers.  Let's look at some things kekel quoted and his discussion:
"This is part 6 of the Secondary qualities (pages 41 to 81) It reveals the thinking behind people who leave and rise up against people they once revered."

Immediately following is an excerpt from practical theology class which is made up mostly of comments from non-ntcc Christians, these words are shared:
“No other man, but the retired millionaire, is such a monarch of his day as is the minister. He can read on Monday morning, or write, or walk, or mingle all three, just as he deems best. On Tuesday morning, he can attend to his correspondence, or catalogue his library, or eat the heart out of some new book, or meet a company of friends, just as he decides. The order of his going out and coming in is largely at his own discretion. Living within wide liberty is dangerous; it has spoiled thousands. He can adapt any style of preaching that he likes, he can follow whatever line of thought he chooses … and … (this) begets in certain types of men a tone of mind which says: “I am Sir Oracle, and when I open my lips, let no dog bark.” … Here is a true description of ministers not a few: ‘They love the chief places at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues, and the salutations in the market-place, and to be called of men, Rabbi."
“In the realm of parish administration, a puffed-up shepherd exhibits symptoms which have been often deplored. He resents all divergence from his opinions. Men who do not agree with him are set down as his foes. He treats them as traitors to the cause of truth. All who will not carry out his wishes have the mark of the beast. He is irritated by the least opposition. He is mortified by the failure of a single plan. Any independence of thought he considers a personal affront."
Don and Ange say,

Does this sound like anyone you know?  To us all these negative traits being condemned by non-ntcc Christians are most often exhibited by the ntcc borg 'leaders' such as davis and kekel.

For example:

"No other man, but the retired millionaire, is such a monarch of his day as is the minister." "The order of his going out and coming in is largely at his own discretion."

That really describes the borg 'leaders' like davis and kekel.  Who determines when they go anywhere?  Or who even knows what they do all day?  They sit around all day and make rules that limit you - where you can work,  telling you not to seek promotion or higher education, requiring that you report how much income you make, what hours you can work, how often you have to be in church.  And all the while you have no idea what they are doing, or whether or not they are even in town or just skipping service.  I've seen davis lay out of church plenty of times when he was at the campground and in St. Louis.  Nobody dares to say anything to him about it either because:

"(this) begets in certain types of men a tone of mind which says: “I am Sir Oracle, and when I open my lips, let no dog bark."

You know what we're talking about.  Just try to raise your hand in one of those ntcc bible studies and see what happens.  You will get shot down.  They don't even want you to ask questions about the bible.  You definitely don't want to see their reaction if you question them about there whereabouts of their spending habits.  They are completely unaccountable to you.  They can go where they want, spend what they want, do what they want.  

But they hold the reins on your life.  Your wife can't work.  You can not go to school.  You have to meet every church service and obligation.  They know how much money you make and require you give them one tenth.  But they never prove where that money goes.  They are completely unaccountable to you.

Here is a true description of ministers not a few:  ‘They love the chief places at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues, and the salutations in the market-place, and to be called of men, Rabbi." 

Taken from the scripture, the quoted material is speaking of hypocrites who require you to save them the best seats in the church, like on the altar, or front pew, and demand you call them a title like Pastor.  Hmmn.  Sounding familiar yet?  As if that doesn't paint a clear picture of the ntcc, this next paragraph does even more so:

“In the realm of parish administration, a puffed-up shepherd exhibits symptoms which have been often deplored. He resents all divergence from his opinions. Men who do not agree with him are set down as his foes.  He treats them as traitors to the cause of truth. All who will not carry out his wishes have the mark of the beast. He is irritated by the least opposition. He is mortified by the failure of a single plan. Any independence of thought he considers a personal affront."

WOW.  That so describes kekel and davis.  Listen to kekel's own crazy description of anyone who no longer attends ntcc.  kekel said,

"I consider them my enemies!" -- m c kekel "

HELLO!

The whole article that kekel strung together really condemns him.  Of course, he tries to pitchfork his condemnation off onto the Xers, stating that the material he's quoting:

"It reveals the thinking behind people who leave and rise up against people they once revered." m c kekel, ntcc CEO

Really, mike?  This entire writing screams out to that part of one's brain that houses common sense and logic. I wish that I had gone straight to the ntcc bible school and taken this bs class 27 years ago. I would have seen the ntcc leadership for the hypocrites they are and left, instead of ruining the last 27 years of my life. We think your blog smog more clearly reveals your own twisted heart thus:

"It reveals the hypocrisy of those who are highly revered towards people that leave because they disagree with ntcc doctrines!" 

or, as kekel stated, "I consider them my enemies!"  WOW!

Vote Anonymously By Clicking On The Lettered Boxes Below:
A) Sounds Like A True Description of ntcc.
B) ntcc Sounds Like A Cult.
C) I Read This Post.
D) kekel sounds bitter and hateful.
E) kekel is pitchforking.
F) I'm afraid to get caught commenting on this blog.
G) Glad To Be Out of ntcc!
H) I've seen kekel, davis, and many other ntcc preachers act like that proud, "I AM SIR ORACLE" spirit. That's why they don't allow anyone to disagree with them or even question them.
I) I'm Thinking Of Leaving ntcc.
J) Create Your Own
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Sunday, October 3, 2010

GO HANG YOURSELF ERIC J. BARDEN or UNITED WE STAND

Eric J. Barden

This page is a tribute to
Eric James Barden EJB
Apr. 2nd, 1962 ~ Dec. 7th, 2008


While at the NTCC National Campground one year, Eric and I had a rare opportunity to see a Snowy Egret. This beautiful bird landed at the western edge of the camp's lower lake which was partially shrouded in the foggy mist that rises from water in the autumn as the ambient air cools to temps below the water temperature. It was a special treat to see such a glorious creature on the camp; and Eric and I both treasured the event. The song below seems perfect for reflection on Eric, his life, and the things he cherished.

There is a section for comments located at the bottom of this page.

Fare Thee Well ~ 10,000 Miles
by Mary Chapin Carpenter
Fare Thee Well by Mary Chapin Carpenter 10,000 Miles Lyrics

Fare thee well
My own true love
Farewell for a while
I'm going away
But Ill be back
Though I go 10,000 miles

10,000 miles
My own true love
10,000 miles or more
The rocks may melt
And the seas may burn
If I should not return

Oh don't you see
That lonesome dove
Sitting on an ivy tree
She's weeping for
Her own true love
As I shall weep for mine

Oh come ye back
My own true love
And stay a while with me
If I had a friend
All on this earth
You've been a friend to me.

Obituary:
Eric James Barden (EJB)

Eric J. Barden, age 46, of Stevens Point, passed away on Sunday, December 7, 2008, in Wausau. He was born on April 2, 1962 in Rhinelander to Erwin and Bernice (Maciejewski) Barden.

Eric graduated from Rhinelander High School in 1980. He attended Gogebic Community College for two years before entering the United States Army. He married his wife, Marilynn (Armstrong) on August 30, 2008 in Rhinelander. In his spare time, Eric enjoyed scuba-diving.

Eric is survived by his wife, Mari, his father, Erwin (Susan) Barden, of Pipe Creek, Texas; his step-son, Jason (Jen) Masch of Mauston; his brother, Keith Barden of Harshaw; his sister, Cindy (Rick) Weyenberg, of Hortonville; and his grandchildren, Jema, Holden, and Dakota. He was preceded in death by his mother, Bernice.

A Memorial Service for Eric will be held on Sunday, December 14, 2008 at 1:30 P.M. at Our Savior's Lutheran Church in Bundy with Pastor Al Montgomery officiating. Visitation will be held at the church from 1:00 P.M. until the time of services. Inurnment will be in Union Grove Cemetery at a later date. A memorial has been established in Eric's name and contributions may be directed to the family. Hildebrand-Russ Funeral Home, 715-365-4343, is assisting the family with arrangements and all are invited to share memories of Eric on-line at hildebrandfh.com.


Eric was also a minister in the New Testament Christian Churches of America, Inc., faithfully serving that organization for over 13 years.  During that time he married Angela. Below she shares about the events that led up to Eric's decision to leave the NTCC.


And the king lamented over Abner, and said, Died Abner as a fool dieth?
Thy hands [were] not bound, nor thy feet put into fetters: as a man falleth before wicked men, [so] fellest thou. ...
2 Samuel 3:33-34


GO HANG YOURSELF, ERIC J. BARDEN


Following is the true story of events leading up to Eric's leaving the New Testament Christian Churches of America, Inc. If you knew Eric as I, his wife of 8 years did, you would know what a difficult and painful decision this was for him. But rodger wilson davis' callous treatment of Eric, refusing to provide safety equipment for him or let him work on a different project than a steep roof, despite Eric's 13+ years of faithful service to the NTCC was too much for him, so he left. Here is what happened:

In the past ntcc has successfully runoff various people by cutting them out one at a time and sending them packing. The ntcc knows that one person alone is less of a threat to their money-making empire than a whole group of people who demand to know where does the money go and what do the so-called leaders really do all day.

New Testament Christian Churches of America, Inc., Obiturary, Eric James Barden EJB, NTCC, NTCCA
How davis saw you!
When Eric Barden struggled with working on a roof because he had no safety gear -- something the law requires the ntcc employer to supply -- davis told Eric, in effect, to go hang himself. davis had russ mears, Eric's friend and building crew foreman deliver the message to "tie a rope on" and george keener added "yeah, put it around your neck!"
Safety Gear

Each building crew member was put at risk that day to be forced to work without safety gear or "to go hang yourself".  davis won a dirty battle by singling out one person and forcing them to choose to do it his way or hit the highway.


The sad fact is that Eric was run off because he expected ntcc to pay for safety gear as the law requires of employers.

The dirty fact is that rodger w. davis was trying to force Eric into buying the safety gear from Eric's measly ntcc wages. [More on that scam later.]


For weeks Eric had worked on getting the ntcc building crew in Washington to send safety gear to the Missouri ntcc Campground. He wanted the building crew members there to be able to work safely without falling off the steeply pitched roof of the two-story-plus-high, hotel-style building that they were erecting for ntcc next to the main conference building (tabernacle) at the camp. Eric's persistence paid off, in part. His continual calls convinced the borg to send two small safety harnesses for a project that had four men working on it. So the two skinny, younger men, dustin smart and russ mears, got their safety equipment thanks to Eric's conscientious effort.  george  'dad' keener, being much older, was expected to work from the ground and would not need a harness. But Eric, who was not a small man, was not going to benefit from his labor [a pretty common theme for the workers in the ntcc, a multi-million dollar real estate corporation masquerading as a non-profit church]. There was no way either of the small harnesses would fit him or protect him.

So, the night before going up on that steep roof, Eric called rodger w. davis to plead one more time for safety gear, or the opportunity to work on another project. As usual, davis refused to answer the request at that time. [People in the ntcc and some reporters who have tried to speak with the ntcc leadership know that stonewalling or refusing to answer legitimate questions is a common stall and divert tactic employed by the borg 'leaders' and their cronies.]

The next morning russ mears had instructions from davis to tell Eric to "Tie a rope on!"

Those were the general's orders!

Though he was too much of a wimp to deliver the message himself! Instead davis decided to see if russ mears would still be loyal to rdub, even if it meant burning his long-time friend, Eric. Well, now we know the rest of the story. mears delivered the message, plunging the knife in and george keener gave it a twist, adding "Yeah, put it around your neck!" Does that sound like the love of God to you readers? I didn't think so either.

Eric worked that day, and was forced to risk injury and death because davis refuses to spend one penny on anyone but himself! What a selfish hypocrite davis is. He can demand that the ntcc buy him a new Cadillac every year; or when the odometer reaches 50,000 miles (whichever comes first); but don't you dare ask him to dip into the multi-million dollar coffers of the ntcc to buy safety gear. davis wants you to buy it yourself. Or, "If you don't like it... "Tie a rope on." and "Yeah, put it around your neck!"


People in ntcc should band together to give davis and his a strong message that mistreating one person is the same as mistreating them all.

People should band together and force ntcc to change or force ntcc to go on without them.
Divided people are conquered.  United people stand and win freedom.

What r w davis did to Eric James Barden was illegal! 

He got away with it and other atrocities because others stood by and allowed their friend to suffer without anyone standing to help.

When we choose to do nothing to help, we are becoming a partaker in the sins of those who are hurting our brothers and sisters.

Think about it. Think about what davis, and kekel and those who run ntcc really represent. Think about their selfish lifestyles and large incomes and mansions and compare it to the lives of sacrifice lived by the many brothers and sisters around you and ask yourself: What is really going on here? Why are you helping the rich get richer?? while brothers and sisters who work faithfully every day go without basic necessities so davis and his can satisfy their lust of the eyes, lust of the flesh, and pride of life.

Will you continue to abandon hurting brothers and sisters and those who stand up against the evil? Or will you stand up for Jesus and the Christian way and do something to send the message to ntcc that hurting "the least of these" is the same as hurting Christ?



And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done [it] unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done [it] unto me. Matthew 25:40

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It is your choice.  Remember:

UNITED WE STAND

Don and Ange said...

Who says ntcc should provide safety gear for workers whose ultimate boss is r w davis?

Well, the law of the land does.

OSHA inspectors enforcing laws.

But ultimately the real authority comes from God who specifically instructed us about this very thing in the scripture:

When thou buildest a new house, then thou shalt make a battlement for thy roof, that thou bring not blood upon thine house, if any man fall from thence. Deuteronomy 22:8

THIS IS THE DAY THE LORD HATH MADE

In the middle of July, 1991, Eric asked me to marry him.

I remember praying that God would allow R. W. Davis to perform the marriage for us.

He did.

Psalm 118:24

Was the theme of our wedding:

This [is] the day [which] the LORD hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it.


Over the years (and still today) I would learn the significance of this verse.

Praise God Who sees the end from the beginning!

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