As Don shared in another thread titled "Homosexual 'Pastors' in the ntcc: Names Included" {Part Three of Don's Story}, he had already been sexually abused by three homosexual ntcc pastors. This abuse of authority, coupled with long years of forced celibacy made Nichelle Tieman's forward advances seem appealing at first. In Don's words: "At first I welcomed these advances because they made me feel like a man is supposed to feel and that is masculine." Of course the Holy Ghost continued to convict him; and Don repented of this sin. After praying for forgiveness, Don called Pop Gaylord and told him of his involvement with Nichelle Tieman, who had also told Don that she loved another brother, Rev. Rice, and if anything happened to her husband, David Tieman Sr., Rice was the one she would marry. Pop Gaylord called davis and r w got on a plane to visit Colorado Springs.
From the moment davis got off the plane at the airport, (Ange was there with the Tiemans to pick up rdub at the airport) until the day he left, r w 's demeanor was mean, gruff, condescending and condemning. davis screamed out the 'message' "What's in YOUR books?", which really was a message for r w davis that he pitchforked onto everyone else without applying it to his own adulterous self. Hmmn.
Afterwards, in the kitchen, Nichelle Tieman lied and told r w davis that Ange wanted to go to bible school. If you know anything about ntcc, you know what a nail in the relationship-coffin that was. Don was not going to bible school. So in ntcc this made Ange off-limits to Don. Not only that; but Don had wanted to go to bible school and unforgiving - but - guilty - himself - davis had not "allowed it" even though Pop Gaylord gave Don a good recommendation to go. (See "Letters From The Past", {Part One} for proof of Pop Gaylord's good recommendation, in Mom Gaylord's own handwriting.) Talk about a twisted diabolical scheme to keep Don living a forced life of celibacy! Three different ntcc pastors told him or a woman he was talking to they should not be talking! Then this lie by nichelle tieman, the adulteress! Forcing the ntcc rule-induced separation of Don and Ange; just because nichelle lied; and davis did not "allow" Don to go to the bible school. Why?
Even davis knew that Don is a good brother. In davis' own words to Don: "I [rw] never saw the devil fight anyone as hard as he fights you [Don]". It was also at this time that davis told Don: "I know what happened with you [Don] and [hummel and rudy, and the rejected advances from broadnax the homosexual pastors] was NOT MUTUAL [Don did not want homosexuality.] But, [davis continued] I think THIS [Don's involvement with nichelle tieman] WAS MUTUAL." Ya think? Seven years of not even being able to talk to a woman does wear down a brother who does not have the 'gift' of celibacy! Of course he's going to be tempted even if it was Nichelle Tieman doing the tempting.
Why did Nichelle approach a single brother to meet her sexual needs? At a conference in Missouri Nichelle was telling a room full of women how bad her husband David Tieman Sr. was in bed. She was doing it in her usual scornful manner of speaking. If you know Nichelle, you know what we are talking about: How she makes fun of people constantly, including her own biological brother.... In that room were church members, bible school students, and ministers' wives. Let them come on here and say that these things we share are true; because they were there and saw and heard it too. In fact, this incident was the reason why davis, the very next day, stopped "letting" people fellowship in the rooms at the campground! Additionally, many people have shared how horrible the Tiemans were as overseers because of their rude, sanctimonious, holier-than-thou behavior.
That brings us to the heart of the matter. The Tiemans (Nichelle and David Sr.) can not even keep their own house in order. They should NEVER be set up as Overseers to tell others how to do ANYTHING.
To date Nichelle has never apologized to Don or Ange for her adultery and lying. This indicates her lack of repentance (impenitent). The bible says to rebuke openly before all, that others may fear. It says to not suffer a brother to sin. People may not like the truth; but eXposing the truth is the only way to affect repentance. The ntcc would rather lift up Nichelle and David Sr. in pride and could care less that they are impenitent. As one anonymous poster shared on Jeff Collin's blog:
Anonymous said...
Jeff, then why is the woman that this man mentioned by name one of the leaders in ntcc?
I don't know but they are going to churches and preaching around and are seen as leaders for the ntcc, if I'm not mistaken her husband is in the board of ntcc, while real men and women like the John and Rebecca Rodrigues in the phillipines are just put on the back burner so to speak.
Is that what you have to do to belong to the board? Wow and wow!!!
To date Nichelle has never apologized to Don or Ange for her adultery and lying. This indicates her lack of repentance (impenitent). The bible says to rebuke openly before all, that others may fear. It says to not suffer a brother to sin. People may not like the truth; but eXposing the truth is the only way to affect repentance. The ntcc would rather lift up Nichelle and David Sr. in pride and could care less that they are impenitent. As one anonymous poster shared on Jeff Collin's blog:
Anonymous said...
Jeff, then why is the woman that this man mentioned by name one of the leaders in ntcc?
I don't know but they are going to churches and preaching around and are seen as leaders for the ntcc, if I'm not mistaken her husband is in the board of ntcc, while real men and women like the John and Rebecca Rodrigues in the phillipines are just put on the back burner so to speak.
Is that what you have to do to belong to the board? Wow and wow!!!
These things ought not to be so. Nichelle should repent of her adultery and lying; David Sr. should repent of his lack of meeting his wife's sexual needs. Or else David Tieman Sr. should step down from the board of the ntcc and relinquish his Overseer status. They really are not qualified. Just ask those who have had to endure the Tiemans coming to town on their broom in their recreational vehicle.
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The ntcc wants to disregard the bible commandment concerning Overseers found in 1 Tim 3:15:
For if a man know not how to rule his own house,
how shall he take care of the church of God?
That's what the bible says, people. That is what God expects. So how about it ntcc? Perhaps the real reason the Tiemans have been allowed to advance is because they are not the only ones with unrepented-of sins. Perhaps the very top 'leaders' of the ntcc have impenitent hearts and seek others who have skeletons in the closet to share the board room (or bedroom) with them. Something to think about. Perhaps the top ntcc leaders themselves do not know how to rule their own houses and as such should not take care of the church of God!
Update: From the comments section on this post:
Anonymous said...
Somebody was telling some years back that when the tiemans were in denver pastoring a church, they used to invite the members of thier church to come to their house and enjoy the spa that ms. tieman had found for free in the newspaper. They used to have a blast when the tiemans were pastoring there.
NOw with this info about how ms. tieman behaved with don, it is so telling what were the intentions of nichelle bringing their members to enjoy their "blessing" (spa)
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Shaking my head. You know, I'm starting to wonder if david tieman sr. is a little gay himself? I mean; come on? How many times does your wife have to throw herself at other men to try and get your attention? Are you gay, dave? Or is nichelle some kind of nymphomaniac that you just can't keep up with her? Or do you both just need some good old fashioned counseling from a real counselor, not davis the blabber mouth who WILL air your private business from the pulpit if it suits him; (as he has boasted that he does do that.... And we've all seen and heard it too!)
I just don't get it; why do you want to continue in sin? Lying to yourselves about who you are and what you want. Why not just go out and be REAL bad girls or bad boys and quit pretending?
Or better still, why not go to the cross and really get a touch of salvation and healing from Jesus Christ the Merciful?
Are you really that proud that you'd rather go to hell for halfway-living in sin?
You don't have to. Repentance is one prayer away. Forgiveness is yours for the asking.
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Update: From the comments section on this post:
NOw with this info about how ms. tieman behaved with don, it is so telling what were the intentions of nichelle bringing their members to enjoy their "blessing" (spa)
Yeah, it's as obvious as when nichelle purposely pushed Don into the water from the paddle boat that they were in on a small pond at a park near the ntcc servicemen's home in Colorado Springs (Ft. Carson) on Circle. Drive.
nichelle wanted to flirt and get a good look at Don in his wet clingy clothes. I was there and saw the whole thing. nichelle's oblivious husband david tieman sr. was there too and saw the whole thing. I could not believe my eyes! I could see very plainly that she was flirting with / coming on to Don. Is david tieman sr. that dumb or did he just not care who nichelle was throwing herself at? It really was freaky.
Of course now we all know the rest of the story with Don.
And now thanks to your post we see that this was a pattern of bad behavior exhibited by nichelle tieman. A spa? Seriously? In a HOLINESS preacher's house?
I guess the Lord really does "use that jacuzzi in mysterious ways".
Here's a link to a video that says it all:
nichelle wanted to flirt and get a good look at Don in his wet clingy clothes. I was there and saw the whole thing. nichelle's oblivious husband david tieman sr. was there too and saw the whole thing. I could not believe my eyes! I could see very plainly that she was flirting with / coming on to Don. Is david tieman sr. that dumb or did he just not care who nichelle was throwing herself at? It really was freaky.
Of course now we all know the rest of the story with Don.
And now thanks to your post we see that this was a pattern of bad behavior exhibited by nichelle tieman. A spa? Seriously? In a HOLINESS preacher's house?
I guess the Lord really does "use that jacuzzi in mysterious ways".
Here's a link to a video that says it all:
Shaking my head. You know, I'm starting to wonder if david tieman sr. is a little gay himself? I mean; come on? How many times does your wife have to throw herself at other men to try and get your attention? Are you gay, dave? Or is nichelle some kind of nymphomaniac that you just can't keep up with her? Or do you both just need some good old fashioned counseling from a real counselor, not davis the blabber mouth who WILL air your private business from the pulpit if it suits him; (as he has boasted that he does do that.... And we've all seen and heard it too!)
I just don't get it; why do you want to continue in sin? Lying to yourselves about who you are and what you want. Why not just go out and be REAL bad girls or bad boys and quit pretending?
Or better still, why not go to the cross and really get a touch of salvation and healing from Jesus Christ the Merciful?
Are you really that proud that you'd rather go to hell for halfway-living in sin?
You don't have to. Repentance is one prayer away. Forgiveness is yours for the asking.
(Don and) Ange
To See All Related Stories In Mobile View, click this label "Don's Story"
Or, to view each part alone:
1) Why I Left The ntcc
2) The Celibacy Policy
3) Homosexual Pastors