tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-84631181490685135442024-03-05T14:50:34.941-08:00ntcc Xer blog: New Testament Christian Churches of America, Inc. eX-Ministers' and eX-Members' SiteFormer Ministers and Members tell of NTCC Abuse <a href="http://ntccxerblog.blogspot.com/?m=0#Feed1">Comments</a> Vids <a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/ntccXerblog">YouTube</a> Info <a href="http://ntccxerblog.blogspot.com/search/label/tour%20ntcca/?m=1">Tour NTCCA</a> Fast View <a href="http://ntccxerblog.blogspot.com?m=1">Mobile</a> Full Blog <a href="http://ntccxerblog.blogspot.com/?m=0">View Web Version</a> Skip To <a href="http://ntccxerblog.blogspot.com/?m=0#BlogArchive1">Archive</a>Don and Angehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08130358238099845361noreply@blogger.comBlogger283125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8463118149068513544.post-26083122453156935752016-11-01T10:52:00.001-07:002016-11-01T10:52:08.900-07:00All Good Things Must Come to an EndWe would like to thank everybody who has participated in and contributed to this blog. It has run its course and served its purpose; and we feel that there is little we can add that hasn't already been said. This blog will continue to serve as an historical account of the abusive deeds and actions of the ntcc and its leadership for all to see. We will be disabling comments, however; as we feel that it is our time to open a new chapter in our lives, one that does not include the ntcc. We are sure the ntcc and its minions will rejoice and attribute this to their prayers and their self righteousness. Whatever. We feel that we have done all that we can do. We have both been removed from the ntcc for the better part of two decades and we believe it's time for some new blood to carry the torch - if there is someone out there that has such a desire. We still feel the same way; and we stand behind everything that we have posted over the last six years. Chief's blog is still open for comments; and if any of you wish to discuss the ntcc, you don't need a moderator or us to come up with new topics. There will always be abusive and manipulative groups out there; and there will always be hucksters out there looking to make a few bucks off of the gospel of Jesus Christ. <br />
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Our parting words to all of our readers to include ntcc'rs: We hope that you find peace in God and that you realize no church, (cult), or man has a monopoly on salvation. It's free to all; and the Word of God is not a mystery to those who love God. If you are looking for Jesus, He will not be found among the religious hypocrites who make a living condemning souls while getting rich off of the people they manipulate. He's not part of a clique or a club that you have to pay tithe to join. If you want God, all you need is a broken heart and a contrite spirit. We believe that the focus of what Jesus taught was built upon loving God with all your heart and loving your neighbor as yourself. It has nothing to do with wearing makeup or earrings, going to 5 cult services a week or paying tithe to a man; who sends it to some self proclaimed apostle in Graham; who in turn enriches himself with earthly treasures. If you want to love God, love one another. Do something for someone who can't help themselves. Love the people that God loves, not just the ones who preach at you. Look at the life of Jesus, and try to emulate the love that he had for those whom he helped and loved, not the ones who tell you that they are the last move of God on earth, not the ones that try to impose rules on you that they themselves will never keep, not the ones that strain at a gnat and swallow a camel, not the ones that bind heavy burdens, grievous to be borne and will not lift one finger to move them, not the ones that are all wrapped up in themselves, their buildings and their programs, not the ones who harbor pedophiles and destroy families, not the ones who say they love God, but have no place in their heart for people that do not bow down to them.<br />
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God is so close and within reach, but so many of us left the ntcc under the delusion that God had cast us away. The ntcc had no more use for us; and they never tried to reconcile, but God remains one prayer away. He'll never give up on you like the ntcc will.<br />
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We would like to thank all of the people who shared their testimonies and had the courage to own their testimonies by saying who they are and what happened to them. We know that not everyone has been at a place in their lives where they were ready to identify who they were and what they went through, and we appreciate all of the anonymous contributions also. We have both discussed this for some time and knew this day was coming soon. We are just at a place in our lives where we don't want our time to be consumed by thoughts of the dirty ntcc. If you need to contact us for any reason our email is available. Unless there is some really big story that we feel people really need to know about, we most likely will not add anything new to our blog. We wish you all the best. Peace and Love to all as they follow Christ!<br />
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This is another tragic story of spiritual abuse suffered by a couple in the ministry. This comes from a former ntcc Pastor and Missionary's wife.</div>
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While the ntcc does not consider a Servicemen's work overseas to be missionary work (so that the ntcc doesn't have to support [$$$] them), this couple labored in a foreign country for two years (just like missionaries) and during that time they were exploited and their personal needs were ignored to the point of personal crisis. This testimony is lengthy but on point; it will resonate with anyone who has been with this group. If you are in the ntcc read it carefully and allow it to speak to you. If you are a former member of the ntcc it will reinforce the decision you made to leave.</div>
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Even after a year of telling Rev. Olson we couldn't handle it in England anymore, the best he could offer was, <b><i><span style="background-color: lime; color: blue;">"We love you, God loves you, we are praying for you, and maybe, just maybe, you will have 100 people in service and someone might write a thousand dollar check."</span></i></b></div>
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But the fact remained, what he said never happened, and we were ready to leave.</div>
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My husband (now my ex) came to the conclusion he was not called to be a pastor, but a helper, and when he told Rev. Olson that, Rev. Olson said that at the next conference, we will get to talk with Pastor Davis about it. My husband was instructed to write down his thoughts on a piece of paper. We were invited to the Lodge for the first time, and there was a large group of church leaders and pastors and pastor's wives. We sat there in this awkward group of two circles, one with men, one with women, and it was mostly quiet. <b><i><span style="background-color: red; color: blue;">Pastor looked at the paper, and looked back up at my husband, but never said a word. At the end, Pastor Davis said goodnight to us and he never talked with us about it. We went back to England never having that talk we were told we would have, and Rev. Olson said that if Pastor didn't say anything to us, it's because God didn't tell him anything to say. Well, that told us enough.</span></i></b></div>
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They had no one to replace us when our two years was about up. They had plenty of time to work something out. He even asked us to extend our visas another two years! After we were adamant about not extending, he explained that they would've had someone sooner, but he said they still had to replace them and the ones replacing them still had to be replaced! There was a problem because someone that was supposed to replace someone, had left NTCC. Finally, my husband said he would extend, but I refused. Rev. Olson asked, "What about the church?" And I responded, "What about us?" Then Pastor Davis said they would close the church. This did not change our minds. <b><i><span style="background-color: black; color: yellow;">This was about one month before our visas were to expire and we were told to sell everything, including the car, and moldy beds and stained sheets that were left to us. We stayed with a brother until it was time to leave. All Olson had a problem with at that time was the fact that he would've liked us to get a little more money for the stuff we sold to cover our plane tickets.</span></i></b></div>
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I spoke with Tanya Kekel, telling her I had decided to start working a job, because I decided it's not a sin, just NTCC policy. She wanted us to come back "home" to Graham. <b><i style="background-color: black;"><span style="color: yellow;">I told her that I don't feel like being preached at about working and she said "many women here work". I said that may be true, but it is looked down at and preached against. She said it's never been preached against, at least by her husband. At that moment, I knew she was full of it. She knows very well what is taught.</span></i></b> She had asked me if she wronged me, and I said no. I told her some of what happened and she said, "It seems your problem is with Rev. Olson, not us.</div>
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I definitely found him attractive, but really, I wanted to focus on God. <span style="background-color: black; color: cyan;"><b><i>But you taught so much about "you shouldn't go to bible school single".</i></b></span> <a href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjKM1YQyUrB0jO2eaZ-JIggVhAGlSDABikrUQj1bLIVDm3v9PLCpnP4wTyKfODVcY8UIsJsamhmpGd5IRALqGXIEjnoVPMfyU4FcgJ6_2wL9mg2BT29dWNrPbN4F7mwTC1y04rZQR3gRa_p/s1600/red+flag+-+tiny.jpg" imageanchor="1" style="margin-left: 1em; margin-right: 1em; text-align: center;"><img border="0" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjKM1YQyUrB0jO2eaZ-JIggVhAGlSDABikrUQj1bLIVDm3v9PLCpnP4wTyKfODVcY8UIsJsamhmpGd5IRALqGXIEjnoVPMfyU4FcgJ6_2wL9mg2BT29dWNrPbN4F7mwTC1y04rZQR3gRa_p/s1600/red+flag+-+tiny.jpg" /></a>You put us together as a soul winning team. You had him pick me up for church instead of the Prentice's. You'd invite me and him out to eat.</div>
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Like, when we went on our first date, and my ex didn't want to continue a relationship with me, and you told him he needs to apologize to me.</div>
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I specifically remember, when I was doing the Atkins, and wanted to have a cheat snack, and you said in front of me to your wife, "I'm trying to do something here." You wanted me to continue losing weight.</div>
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<b><i><span style="background-color: black; color: lime;">I knew from that moment, you both were matchmaking us. I remember you telling your wife, "we're not supposed to be matchmaking". She'd agree.</span></i></b></div>
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But still, when we were considering not being together, and just being friends, you'd put us together soul winning. <b><i><span style="background-color: black; color: yellow;">You made us a team, even though, you both know, that would be unacceptable in Graham, to put a single lady and a single man together soul winning. I mean, the singles couldn't even talk unless they had permission.</span></i></b></div>
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We sat in Pastor Davis' classes, and many times, he would teach how we, as pastors, are not supposed to get so involved in people's lives. Many times I wanted to tell him that everything he just said we shouldn't do, you guys did. He'd say, "don't go do laundry at their houses", and that's what we did. He'd say, "don't go on base with them" and that's what we did. <b><i><span style="background-color: black; color: lime;">Remember that, when I said I couldn't bring you to the commissary anymore, because we were making a lie? There were signs at the cash registers prohibiting civilians from doing their shopping there. How could we justify that!? Just because other pastor's wives do it?</span></i></b> Funny how NTCC can make exceptions when it benefits them, especially financially.</div>
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You guys did help me, a lot, and always made me feel safe and accepted. I will never forget you two being like parents to me. If I ever had the chance to sit down and talk with you guys, I would love to.</div>
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But, you know the marriage between my ex and I was a mistake.</div>
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Our relationship was more of a "business" partnership. And it's because of you two convincing us we need to be together. Scaring us into not going to bible school single.</div>
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You even convinced us not to have kids, "just in case they need us for servicemen's work". You made the Prentice's out to be disobedient when they had their kid. I remember, the Olson's were there, and the Prentice's were made out to be disobedient, because of it, saying that she is hindering him from his ministry.</div>
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<b><span style="background-color: black; color: magenta;">Everyone that I have told this to, cannot believe a church would encourage their people to not have kids.</span></b> Yes, we understand the reasons for not having a kid in a servicemen's home and we would explain that.</div>
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When kids started popping up everywhere in Graham, starting around 2008 or so, could you imagine all the jealousy and hurt that the older women, that didn't have kids, felt? Now it's okay to have kids, and they are popping them out everywhere.</div>
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My Ex and I tried for kids after leaving NTCC, and had complications. I HATE that I didn't get to have a kid before now. It hurts. The Bible speaks of children being a blessing, and I may never experience that, all because it didn't match up with YOUR agenda and the org's needs.</div>
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Even when Pastor Davis asked me if I want a kid, I said no. I knew, at that moment, it was a lie, a lie that I believed because I let you guys convince me that if I wanted a kid, I could possibly ruin my husband's chances at a ministry.</div>
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I will NEVER step foot back into an NTCC.<br />
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Is my church abusive? <a href="http://www.solasisters.com/2014/08/hope-for-spiritually-abused.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Read More</a><br />
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Of all that I've been through
The pain
Being taken advantage of
My feelings were numbed
My passions turned away
Talked out of reality
Convinced to be enslaved
I became what they wanted
I worked for their agenda
They didn't care for me
It was all about them
Their rise, their gain
But in the end, they lost it all
All the trust, all the love
The ones who gave all they could
They say we gave up
They say we lost out
But in their darkest day
When they face the Truth
They'll know they're the ones
Who will be turned away</span></span><br />
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;-) Jesus loves you.</div>Don and Angehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08130358238099845361noreply@blogger.com73tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8463118149068513544.post-79976143767521695752016-09-25T04:51:00.000-07:002016-09-26T14:13:49.351-07:00Ashmore Seeks Healing from Another Cult<table align="center" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" class="tr-caption-container" style="margin-left: auto; margin-right: auto; text-align: center;"><tbody>
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<span style="line-height: 19.32px;">Bill, I am a pastor and leader in our church org. and after approx. 40 some years of being a part of this ministry, my wife and I have (with much difficulty) determined it best to leave it. Please remember me in prayer as this isn't easy since we are in our mid-60's. We trust God however, to start a new ministry through us. Some years ago, God started impressing on me that JESUS is the true focus of ministry, NOT CHURCH DOCTRINES. It seemed that Jesus was being treated only a</span>s one of many subjects to preach on and that disturbed me. I have also had a revelation of GRACE like never before!<br />
I have seen miracles when praying for people, but it seems our org. doesn't place a priority on these things. Rather than be critical any longer, we feel it best to leave. Please pray for my health since I have been suffering from Ulcerative Colitis for some time now and it seems no one's prayers or even commands (including my own) have brought any result. Thank you so much for your taking time to read this- I just don't know who else to turn to for ministry that I can have any confidence in right now.<br />
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This was written pretty close to the time that Ashmore left the ntcc. The Pastor of the Bethel Church, Bill Johnson, is a lot like Ashmore. Bill's ministry is based on signs and wonders. Bill Johnson believes that Angel feathers fall in his church, his home, and at restaurants. He also believes that "Glory Clouds" come down in his church and describes these glory clouds as large puffs of gold flakes. He claims that gold flakes fall from the ceiling of his church. He has a video of a bunch of people in ntcc style worship and a cloud of smoke that looks really fake billowing in a corner of the church. He also believes a lot of really weird doctrines like one practice called "grave soaking". Grave soaking, also referred to as grave sucking is where cult members go to graves of famous Christians like C.S. Lewis and lay on their graves to soak up the anointing of God. Another really weird practice that they participate in is being drunk in the spirit, where cult members laugh uncontrollably, and twitch uncontrollably in what looks like epileptic fits for very long periods of time. None of this is biblical, by the way. This is the guy, Bill Johnson, that James Ashmore wanted to pray for him to heal him from his Ulcerative Colitis. <br />
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It's also interesting and noteworthy that Ashmore makes it a point to mention that "rather than be critical any longer, it was best to leave" (the ntcc). So he leaves the ntcc and shortly after writing this prayer request to cult leader Bill Johnson, Ashmore warns people to flee the Whore. Is calling the ntcc the "Whore" not critical?<br />
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In another Facebook plea for healing, Ashmore reached out to a woman named Aliss Cresswell. Aliss and her husband Rob, lead a group called MorningStar Europe. This group also has a cult following and many of its ex-members blog against them and the people that they are associated with. Aliss and Rob Cresswell run the European arm of the MorningStar organization founded by Rick Joyner who is a huckster and grifter of the highest (or lowest) sort. Joyner claims that he has eaten from the tree of life, that he has spoken to the deceased, that he has have more power than the Apostles, and that there will be a civil war in the church. Are you beginning to see a pattern here? This is the type of people that Ashmore aligns himself with. Ashmore is a divine healing huckster. He wants to be just like these other mega church healing hucksters and miracle merchandisers. Do you really want someone who <b><i>"doesn't have enough faith for his own healing"</i></b> to demand that you have the faith for your healing? You don't have to believe us; but it's all about money and prestige for Ashmore.<br />
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Aliss, can you pray for me? I was diagnosed with ulcerative colitis a few years ago and I have been on Prednisone since. I am tired of using this medication and want to be free. Thank you, and please tell me if you have received this post, God bless you! </div>
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Why is Ashmore seeking prayer from other cult leaders? Ashmore is a big time huckster. He tries to convince everyone else that he has this super spiritual healing ministry, but he can't even get a hold of God to get healing for himself or free him from his dependency on Prednisone. Do you know why Ashmore seeks out these Kooks? There is a lot of money in it. Most of the hucksters that involve themselves in this type of showmanship, create an atmosphere of hysteria among their followers through signs and wonders. They can move people with their fair speeches and great swelling words. They have incredible music ministries and people get caught up in the feeling. You have to follow the money trail to figure out what these hucksters are all about.<br />
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If you do a google search on Bill Johnson and throw in the word cult or false doctrine you will find out what Bill Johnson is all about. Ashmore has to go to these money grubbing false prophets for healing because his own healing ministry is a scam. Ashmore's right hand man is Mathew Meinecke, who is really into the whole signs and wonders preaching. Meinecke draws attention to himself by laying on the ground in public places pretending like he is crucified while preaching at passersby. We call him the blood moon prophet because he preached on the blood moons as if they were fulfilling present day prophesy; but there is no prophesy in the scripture to support his claims of present day relevance. Blood moons are only mentioned in the bible in reference to the great and notable day of the Lord, but Meinecke, like many other Hucksters, likes to create new false doctrines; and Ashmore didn't seem to have any objections. Meinecke and Ashmore are both really into signs and wonders.<br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><b>Matthew 16:4</b></span> <b><span style="color: red;">"A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas."</span> </b><br />
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The Bethel Church has an unbelievable music ministry, featuring groups like Jesus Culture and other artists who are incredibly inspirational in their music. They do concerts that bring in huge amounts of money; and they also have recorded labels that bring in lots of cash. They might be sincere Christians; but they are in a cult; and their money is going somewhere. I doubt that the Jesus Culture members are getting rich off of it. They are being exploited for their talent, a lot like the ntcc members are being exploited for their youth and energy.<br />
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I know that Jesus Culture brings in a ton of money; and Bethel church has its own recording studio that they invested around 1.6 million dollars to purchase. They sell tons of stuff and have conferences with registration fees, where they sell T-shirts and lots of other paraphernalia. They also have a 70 acre cult compound and a bible school that costs $3600 per student to attend. This cult compound has become a Christian tourist trap, where Christians come from miles around and spend on average of $125.00 per visit. Come on people, use your heads. Is this what Christ envisioned for His church?<br />
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<b><span style="color: blue;">Col 2:8</span></b> <span style="color: red;"><b>"Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ."</b></span><br />
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The reason Ashmore keeps his Commentary open to his own circle of choice friends only, is that he doesn't want to be confronted with stuff like this. He can't have a public page like normal ministers, but he has to limit his group to those who he invites, only. Ashmore has read our blogpost and our letter that we wrote to him, but refuses to answer for any of his actions that have hurt quite a few people. It didn't take long for word to get back to Ashmore after we posted about his daughter, Lorrie DiFrancesco, no longer attending ntcc services faithfully. After someone shared this with us, Ashmore complained about someone "cutting and pasting" stuff from his private commentary. This is called damage control, folks. Ashmore hasn't changed. He reacts the same way that the ntcc hucksters react. He is ashamed of his actions so he has to operate in a private and secretive way. He doesn't want public scrutiny because it takes away from his bottom line and exposes him for the huckster he is. So now we find that when someone shares Ashmore's private stuff he throws a tantrum. It seems Ashmore's new found love for grace only extends to the people that agree with him.<br />
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Ashmore does have a blog that is public, but it is not open for the public to comment on, so we are going to use our public forum to discuss it. If you want to know what Ashmore is all about, read the section on divine healing. The following statements were copied and pasted from Ashmore's public blog:<br />
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<span style="color: magenta;"><b style="background-color: black;">Look at Christ, the Passover Lamb as foreshadowed in the book of Exodus: not only did its blood set them free from slavery, but “there was not one FEEBLE person among their tribes”, (Ps. 105:37), which precluded the healing of many of those Israelites prior to their departure from Egypt!<br /><br />Note: They went out FREE, they went out HEALED, and they went out RICH!</b></span><br />
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They went out RICH! Now we are getting down to the heart of the matter, and it's not about you being rich. It's about Ashmore the huckster getting rich! It's all about the money!!!$$$$!!!! <br />
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<b><span style="background-color: black; color: magenta;">How can one pray “the prayer of faith” if one is still in doubt of the Lord’s will to heal??? Nowhere are we commanded to pray “if it be Thy will” when His will is plainly revealed to us in the scriptures!</span></b><br />
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So why did Ashmore whine to Bill Johnson? <span style="background-color: black; color: yellow;">"Please pray for my health since I have been suffering from Ulcerative Colitis for some time now and it seems no one's prayers or even commands (including my own) have brought any result."</span><br />
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And why did Ashmore whine to Aliss Cresswell? <span style="background-color: black; color: yellow;"><b>"<span style="font-family: "helvetica" , "arial" , sans-serif; font-size: 20px;">Aliss, can you pray for me? I was diagnosed with ulcerative colitis a few years ago and I have been on Prednisone since. I am tired of using this medication and want to be free."</span></b></span><br />
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<b><span style="background-color: black; color: yellow; font-size: large;"><i><u>HOW CAN ONE PRAY "THE PRAYER OF FAITH" IF ONE IS STILL IN DOUBT OF THE LORD'S WILL TO HEAL???</u></i></span></b><br />
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Not only does Ashmore not believe it for himself, but he expects you to believe it. And why does Ashmore go to the most whacked out cult leaders he can find and ask them to pray for him? Ashmore admires these cult leaders because he wants to be just like them. But do you know who is going to pay for this enterprise? You are if you follow him. How many innocent Christians will be manipulated by these faith healing false prophets? Who pays the price?<br />
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<span style="color: blue;"><b>1 Tim 4:1-2</b></span> <span style="color: red;"><b>"Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;" </b></span><br />
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It's easy for Ashmore to point his crooked finger at you when it comes to doubting the Lord's will to heal, but what about practicing what you preach, Jimbo? Or could it be that it's all a scam, just like it was in the ntcc? Now we don't believe that divine healing is a scam. We just think that Ashmore uses divine healing in the same way Benny Hinn, Bill Johnson and Aliss Cresswell use it - to bring in large amounts of cash and receive the praise and admiration of those gullible enough to follow him and financially support him. <br />
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People have shared how that they were blamed for not having faith to be healed when they were prayed for by Ashmore and they were not healed. And now we find Ashmore going to other cult leaders for healing prayers. If you look at Ashmore's ministry, it is a microcosm of many of these mega church, mega cults, who exist to bring in money hand over fist. This is what Ashmore is going for. The unbiblical showmanship and sensationalism is the same, just on a smaller scale. As the money rolls in the circus will grow. <br />
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I know that a bunch of you out there are huge Ashmore fans and you will not turn on your brains to see what this is really all about. You don't want to believe anything bad about Ashmore. To many of you, Ashmore is a replacement for the ntcc. You seek his approval and he validates your reasons for leaving the ntcc. Many of you feel like you need his approval just like so many of us sought the approval of the ntcc leadership. Those of you that are following Ashmore and are big buddies with him will not even consider what he did during his 40 years in the ntcc, much less what he is trying to do now. You will ignore this blog post and you will accuse us of being fault finders and haters. Birds of a feather, flock together. Do your homework. We hope you will not be deceived a second time by this huckster, but we can't force anyone to use common sense. A brain is a terrible thing to waste.<br />
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We learned of this story today, through a comment that we've copied and pasted into this blog post (see yellow letters on black background for the comment). But this is not the first time NTCC has hidden a pervert. NTCC has harbored <b><u>convicted</u></b> child rapist Michael Fontenot [<a href="http://themountainnewswa.net/2011/10/12/former-ntcc-church-worker-convicted-on-child-rape-charges/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">read more</a>] (twin brother of Louis Fontenot) [<a href="http://ntccxerblog.blogspot.com/2014/05/kekel-helps-fontenot-rape-me-at-my.html" target="_blank">see pic</a>] and NTCC has harbored <b><u>convicted</u></b> child rapist Johnny Dean Jordan (the brother of George Jordan (wife Kathy) and Timothy Paul Jordan (wife Veneta) (pics and stories <a href="http://ntccxerblog.blogspot.com/2012/07/jordans-ashmores-and-ntccs-family-cover.html" target="_blank">here</a>).</div>
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These men have all been arrested for these crimes. Fontenot and Jordan have been in and out of prison for their crimes against children. What is stunning about all of this, is the NTCC's persistent pattern of harboring and hiding those who hurt children. We have these three public stories about child abusers. How much more abuse has the NTCC hidden? </div>
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When you read these stories, you learn that the abuse victims and their innocent family members were demonized by the church leadership, told to move on and "find another church", or run out of the church on a rail in the most abusive and vile manner (<a href="http://ntccxerblog.blogspot.com/search/label/Lisa?m=1" target="_blank">read more</a>). Meanwhile, the child abusers were molly-coddled, handled with kid gloves, and hidden within the church. In our opinion, this group, NTCC, is not sound. Do not endanger your children by attending the NTCC or remaining with them. </div>
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<span style="background-color: white; color: #202020;">The comment below came in today, 9/17/16.</span><br />
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<b><span style="background-color: black; color: yellow;">Rev Kipp had been in Saint Louis for years. It always weirded me out he wanted to be around children, mostly young girls. He was a single brother, just something seemed really off about him. At first Nichelle was like oh he us a great guy, and told my family how great he was. He always wanted to hug and tickle the girls, I was like stay away. One day I was walking down stairs and Rev Kipp came over when I was helping my youngest down the stairs. He tried to hug or tickle my 5 year old, Nichelle actually yelled at Kipp that day saying dont touch the girls, she was beat red in the face and very upset. She then yelled at me and told me to watch my children better, my youngest was only 2 and needed help going down the stairs, I turned my back for a second and Kipp was there by my 5 year old. Nichelle knew there was pending charges against this pervert, but blamed me for not watching my kids. And this pervert was still allowed to come to church. An older lady who attended the church was like I never had a good feeling about him. The leadership knew Kipp had previously molested girls, this time it was Spring of 2010 police arrested Kipp at his ntcc rental property there in Saint Louis. He had been viewing child porn. The leadership knew of the investigation but he was still allowed to come to church. I was blamed for not watching my kids. Kipp was a monster nobody told me what was really going on, it was in the police records, one of the Tiemans let it slip one day what he was arrested for after the fact. They thought we as people were dumb, they blamed me for not watching my daughter, nothing happened to them. It's just this monster named Kipp was always around kids. We were told he is a good brother, apparently not. After the police were involved he was a really bad guy. They harbored him, then kicked him to the curb when police were involved. They use people, they hide wicked, and if anything is done wrong, you feel like it's your fault. They've done it time and time again.</span></b><br />
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We found this picture of the only sex offender named Kipp that matches the time frame and the crime he was charged with. Does anyone else who attended ntcc during this time frame recognize this individual? If any readers of this blog recognize this individual, please let us know if this is the guy who was identified in the above comment as a Reverend in the ntcc. He certainly looks like the Kipp I saw back in the '90s in the NTCC in Graham, WA in the bible school (now called a seminary). As I recall, Olson had Kipp stand and pray before the class began. Talk about an endorsement! And Olson, in the NTCC, is revered. People talk in hushed tones about how you can just feel the Holy Ghost dripping off of him. Really? Wouldn't the same Holy Ghost clue in a so-called man of gawd as to Kipp's perverse delight in child pornography? Ahem. People, use some common sense and stop believing the hype about these self-appointed religious hucksters. And don't trust your children to strangers. Trust your gut. Do your homework. Ask if the church does background checks on those around your children. If not, keep your kids close. Better still, get them and yourself out of this child-molester hiding group called NTCC!</div>
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;-) Jesus loves you.</div>Don and Angehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08130358238099845361noreply@blogger.com25tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8463118149068513544.post-70584871600959517932016-08-04T18:39:00.000-07:002016-08-22T09:39:45.476-07:00NoT Qualified to be an Overseer's Wife: Nichelle Tieman Abuses her 2nd Daughter-in-law<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
The following story was sent to us by an ntcc Board Member's X - daughter in law. We have published it in its entirety. The author gives a first hand account of what it was like to be a mother of three children, a wife of an ntcc minister and to be married to the son of an ntcc board member. We recommend that you take the time to read this in full. If you are short on time and you wish to read the main points, we have highlighted some of the more outrageous abuses and egregious behavior that indicts these ntcc cult leaders as a disgrace to Christianity and unfit to hold any leadership position in any church. The author refers to the Board member's wife as "mother in law" or "his mother" several times throughout this post. She refers to the Board member's son as "my ex".<br />
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<tr><td class="tr-caption" style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: yellow; font-family: "trebuchet ms" , sans-serif; font-size: large;"><b style="background-color: black;"> Nichelle Tieman, as she appeared in<br /> one of many ntcc Pasadena, TX, photos.<br /> Don't believe the smile. This blog post<br /> shares exactly what kind of a person she<br /> really is; and it isn't funny or even Christian.<br />Nichelle is the "mother-in-law", "Overseer's<br /> wife" and "his mother" mentioned throughout<br /> this blog post detailing years of horrific abuse.<br /> The following post was written by Nichelle <br />Tieman's Daughter-in-law, Davy-O's 2nd borg wife. <br /> He has divorced her and re-married Amy, <br /> his first ntcc match-made bride. Ugh.<br /> As you read this post, understand that it is<br /> the entire ntcc system at fault for breeding<br /> an environment where such abuse flourishes! </b></span></td></tr>
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Beginning
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I was invited when I was 18 at the
commissary, the lady who invited me has not been in the church for
about 10 years now. I started going in 2001.</div>
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<b><i><span style="color: lime;">My first pastor, had us “soul win”
on post, I was once arrested with another “sister” for going door
to door on post, this is an illegal action and he knew it, after
speaking with the MP’s that day I realized that there were proper
channels that could be taken if you wished to go door to door on
post. My pastor at the time did not want to go through the proper
channels. My baby was 8 months old at the time, I spent a few hours
on the base waiting for them to hopefully release us.</span></i></b> The outcome of
this could have been worse, he knowingly put us in harm’s way.</div>
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Meeting the In-Laws</div>
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<b><i><span style="color: lime;">I met my in-laws a year prior to
getting married to their son. I knew they were over seers and did not
give them much thought. She was kind of nosy and asked a lot of
questions.</span></i></b> I thought you were just supposed to answer, because they
are over seers and that is what you do. Being just a church member no
one bothered me too much, I was insignificant to the big wigs. I do
remember working 3 days a week in the children’s church, cleaning
the church, always donating time or some financial thing to the
church, it was expected. I did all the things that made me a good
girl in their church, and when I had recently divorced, the big wigs
took notice, their goal was to marry me off to some brother.</div>
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Marriage</div>
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He came to church with his mom and dad
on a Sunday in 2006, I had several of my friends from work, and even
a family member in service that day, I brought people to church. I
believed I was helping them get out of the life of sin. He came in
one Sunday morning with his mom and dad, he will claim I stared at
him, or noticed him, he was a new person I had never seen before, I
wasn’t checking him out as he may claim. I just wondered who this
large guy was that just busted the tambourine during a song service,
it was quite noticeable because the pieces flew all over the floor.</div>
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That afternoon his mother asked him,
did you see anyone you were interested in, she was referring to me.
My ex said there was one girl, but she had to be young, and he didn’t
want another young person. <b><i><span style="color: lime;">That night his mother approached me and
convinced me to stay for fellowship, at the fellowship, she started
in with questions, how old was I, what happened in my former
marriage, how old were my kids, and the list goes on. </span></i></b>I answered, I
thought it was wrong not to, the overseers were high up, and you knew
it. That night during the fellowship he kept glancing at me, I left
early and thought nothing of it.
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Wednesday Ladies Bible Study rolled
around and I went, my pastor at the time asked if my ex could have my
phone number, I thought sure why not, maybe he will be a good
brother. He called me within 5 minutes of getting my number. His
mother gave me a huge gift basket 2 days later, and then came over
with $100 the day after that saying these were gifts from her son. I
have since realized if a man does this, run away. It’s a precursor
to bad things to come. We communicated for 2 weeks when he asked me
to marry him. I asked my pastor, he said this is so and so’s son,
he will be great, everyone seemed so happy, I thought I trust these
people, they want what is good for me, if they are happy it must be a
good thing. I was 23 at the time, as single mom of 2 young children,
staying home seemed like a better option than working a lot, so after
3 weeks of talking to him on the phone, I flew across the country to
marry this man. Looking back on it now, I realize it was crazy,
stupid, and foolish, but when you are controlled by a place like
this, then you don’t think rationally or logically. I put my trust
in people, and what they thought, I should have followed those strong
gut feelings I got about the situation.</div>
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The Honeymoon Ended Quickly</div>
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<b><i><span style="color: lime;">We were married in 2006 and he flew off
to war within a couple of weeks after that, within a month of being
married, his mother made a phone call to me warning me about talking
to certain just ordinary members about certain things. There even
seemed to be a rift between my pastors wife and I that there had
never been before. I cried after the phone call, I was part of this
upper group now, and things were going to be a lot different. She
held me to an unattainable standard, and it started with small
things, your children’s hair is messy, why do you dress them like
this or that, they look sloppy, and it just started as a small
gradual drip, a drip of nit picking, fault finding, until one day it
turned into a flood of unleashed emotion.</span></i></b></div>
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<b><i><span style="color: lime;">Later on, I realized my ex had been
talking to a girl in another church, and one at a Pentecostal church,
and his first wife was trying to make plans to get back with him
right before we were married, I saw letters, overheard things from
the church gossips, and realized I may have not been the one he
really wanted.</span></i></b></div>
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Leaving My Home</div>
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I had lived all my life in one place,
its where my friends and family all were, after he came home, within
a couple months we were moving to 1900 miles away. The first night we
stayed with the in-laws house, my ex was yelling at my daughter for
something, she was only 2 at the time, and said she had to go potty,
I asked him to let me take her potty. <b><i><span style="color: lime;">His mother jumped in and said
don’t you ever interfere when someone is correcting your child, and
proceeded to tell me why. I stopped her and said, excuse me, it’s
my daughter, it’s my place to look out for her, and step in when I
feel someone is wrong, because I am her mother.</span></i></b> It blew up from
there, I went to bed without even saying a word to her, I was already
pregnant with my youngest daughter at the time, and I didn’t feel
good, nor did I want to deal with his mom. <b><i><span style="color: lime;">I was shocked, because I
had never experienced someone lash out at me so harshly, jump down my
throat and order me to do something, I reacted and stood my ground,
and she did not like that one bit.</span></i></b> The next morning, with tension
still heavy in the air, another argument ensued, her final words were
do you want me to call the bigwig, to which I said, go ahead I don’t
care. I had a letter of acceptance into seminary, I had been a good
girl for 5 years, and in one morning, one argument, they decided I
was not good for seminary. My ex hid the referral letter from my
pastor back home, saying he had never gotten it, he also hid the
acceptance letter to seminary from me, I discovered it a year later.</div>
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Pregnant and Stuck</div>
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I got pregnant after being married a
few short months, I was in 1900 miles from home, and realized this
situation was horrible, I cried every day, I felt like a failure. I
wanted to go home, but at the time I cared more about what the church
people would think of me, than my gut instincts. I wished I had never
married him, I regretted it. It wasn’t just the finances, it was
the constant phone calls from the mother in law, trying to tear at
me. For a while my ex and I had started going to another church and
our marriage improved, but then his mother called, and started being
nice to me, started being sweet to me, Jr at one point was fed up and
done with the church, I realize now, his mother used me to draw him
back. I felt like I was betraying my pastor from back home and all
the people who had loved me, so I stayed and went back.</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
The day I gave birth to my child should
have been happy, I was talking to my step dad, and they accused me of
talking to one of my former coworkers, and said I was going to try to
cheat on my ex. After giving birth, I can guarantee no woman is
thinking of wanting any man to touch her, or look at her. After my
youngest daughters I requested visitors not come to the hospital, it
was a difficult birth, her umbilical cord was wrapped around her
neck, and I had hemorrhaged bad enough during the delivery they had
to force drugs through my IV line to keep me from bleeding more. The
room was tiny and crowded and hot, the only ones I allowed in were my
daughters and the sister who had kept them for me. The mother in-law
was mad at me for me refusing visitors, she said had people not been
at conference, they would have all came to the hospital to see the
baby whether I like it or not. It was my daughter, it was my hospital
room, I should have been in charge of who could come there or not,
this was June of 2007.
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<li><div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
Difficult Times</div>
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We hardly had any money, I couldn’t
work, and my ex had gotten laid up. My mother and family sent us some
money to help us out. My ex eventually took a part time job at a
video store, for a couple months, he delivered pizzas or newspapers,
but not a good job, he worked at a coffee shop as well, but we were
sinking fast. <b><i><span style="color: lime;">At this time I maxed out credit cards in my name to
help the family stay afloat, even took a personal loan in my name, it
was never paid back, he ran through that money like water and we were
broke again.</span></i></b> It was a constant struggle, We moved half way across the
country in 2008 I was constantly being bombarded by debt collectors.</div>
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Accusations and Isolations
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In 2007, my grandmother, who was dying
of cancer at the time wanted me to come home to visit her with the
kids. She paid for the plane tickets for the girls and I to come out
there, my ex and his family refused to let me take my youngest baby
who was 3 months old at the time, because they were afraid that I
would leave and not come back. I was breast feeding her at the time,
so I knew this would be very hard to leave her for a week. <b><i><span style="color: lime;">I visited
my grandmother, my grandfather had given me a van so the girls and I
would have a vehicle to get around in, we agreed to pay for the van
as well, it never came to pass, and my ex sold it 2 days after my
grandmother died, and pocketed the cash. I should add in as a side
note, that my family never cared for my ex because of the way he
treated me. I drove back, and got in on a Friday evening, I had just
walked in the door, and all I wanted to do was hold my baby, I had
missed her a great deal, I had been gone a week. My mother in-law
informed me the baby was asleep, I said that’s ok, I will deal with
her, I just really wanted to hold her, I wanted to feed her, I ached
because of my milk. I went to pick her up, and his mother stated, my
son and I discussed it and we decided you cannot breast feed your
daughter anymore, she gets gassy, your milk is bad. I was tired and
exhausted I had driven 1900 miles with a 3 year old and 5 year old by
myself in less than 48 hours. I said I will feed my baby if I want, I
went to pick up the car seat where my youngest daughter was and she
grabbed it and started jerking on it, she would not let me have my
baby. I let go and started screaming and crying, going I want my
baby, I want to hold her, let me have my baby. My ex and his Dad left
where ever they were and came rushing home, the mother in law played
it off as an misunderstanding. I never forgot that day, it was sealed
in my mind. What right did this woman have to tell me if I could
breast feed my daughter or not, I knew it would not be good with her
and I from then on out.</span></i></b></div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
In 2008 my grandparents passed away in,
they had raised me and were very much my parents in every way. I
dealt with a difficult time, they passed within 3 months of each
other, but that did not stop the things that were said about me, a
constant belittling, you’re not good enough the way you are, even
at one point being called fake. I had lost myself to this group of
people, I didn’t think I was good enough just being myself, so I
just was floating through life like a robot, showing no real emotion,
<b><i><span style="color: magenta;">they did not realize the pain I was dealing with on the inside from
my grandmother dying of cancer, I just wanted to shut the world out
for a little while and not be around any one. I needed my time to
grieve, but was never really given that, life was to continue on like
nothing happened. The day grandpa passed, I went soul winning,
because well that’s what we do, what is more important than that?
</span></i></b></div>
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<li><div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
Little Eye Openings</div>
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<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
One day I was sitting in a bible study,
and it came to me that I was not living my life, I was on the outside
looking in, it was the oddest picture in my head, of me unfolding a
box and looking down into my life, I decided then and there it was
time to start being happy, doing things I wanted to do, laughing,
smiling, enjoying life, to stop being so sad. It had been almost 2
years since I had truly had joy, or went somewhere just because I
could. I volunteered, at my daughters school, I started setting
little goals for myself, I went places around the city, I ventured
out to do and see things outside of that church. This did not set
well, so once again the accusations started. <b><i><span style="color: lime;">On one such occasion in
spring of 2009 I was called into the Pastors office, and there in
that office was my ex and in-laws, my kids were shuttled off to the
nursery, and the door closed. We sat there for 2 or 3 hours, the
accusation this time, was you wear mascara, there are no way your eye
lashes are that dark, or that thick, you know you’re lying, just
admit you are lying and you can go. I said no I’m not, I said if I
were going to wear makeup I would dye my hair, and wear something to
get rid of the bags under my eyes.</span></i></b> Nothing I said mattered, there was
a constant accusation, and it would not stop, they said we were just
having a discussion, but when yelling is involved that is not a
discussion. When someone is saying you’re a liar and you aren’t
what are you supposed to do. This thing about mascara went on for a
few months.
</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
I almost left the church then because
of it, I went to visit, my ex had said, well if we want to get to
seminary, maybe we will have to go somewhere else, look for a place
in there to rent. So I did when I came here, this time I told my
family what had happened, and they said it’s a cult, you know it,
you need to leave. They still had a strong hold on me, I didn’t
leave just yet, I went back. <b><i><span style="color: magenta;">My ex through me under the bus then, he
said I can go to seminary, you’re the with the problem you know you
lie, and you wear mascara, I’m good, you’re not, you need to
figure out what you’re doing. I knew if I every left him, he would
take my youngest daughter, he said that from the day she was born, I
was afraid of many things.</span></i></b> These people dig in, and put a strong hold
on your life, it’s a cult, read anything online about the signs of
a cult and this church fits it. It’s very hard for the member who
is in to leave, and to break the cycle.</div>
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<li><div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
Seminary and more Indoctrination</div>
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I started Seminary of 2010 and finished
in 2013, it was busy, there I heard the leadership get up and tell
us what we could and couldn’t do, if we went camping on the
weekend, we weren’t giving ourselves to God enough, but never mind
the trips they took to with their families. The bigwig once said a
woman that couldn’t play the piano was a hindrance to her husband
and his ministry. When my ex and I first arrived there, we were
confronted by the top dogs one night after service, and asked if we
planned on leaving the church, I didn’t have a clue what was going
on, my ex had been talking to a girl he was once engaged to about
meeting up and leaving. She used to run up and jump in his arms and
he’d pick her up and hug her, I wasn’t allowed to contact any
former friends or coworkers, not even my oldest daughters dad,
because well I may cheat on him, but he was allowed to do what he
pleased. <b><i><span style="color: lime;">He had the passwords to all my accounts, my email, Facebook,
etc. I didn’t have his, and if he gave them to me he constantly
changed them. I was not allowed to know what was going on with the
finances, or check bank statements. I had to get permission to spend
more than $10, most of our marriage all but 2 years we were on food
stamps, and state assistance, because he would get a job for a few
months and then stop working it, it was said this happened because he
was disable, they didn’t let me work because I’m a woman, it made
no sense to me, why I couldn’t I am an able bodied individual, the
mother in law really pushed government programs for us, like VA
disability, and food stamps, but we were never to tell anyone we were
on government assistance, we paid tithe on the food stamps as well by
taking her shopping and buying her groceries.
</span></i></b></div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<span style="color: magenta;"><b><i>There was a coworker of my ex when he
had an office job, the ladies husband, and several of the people at
the office said they were having an affair with this woman, they
would go to lunch together, with no chaperone, he rode in her
vehicle, and said they were just friends, anyone who knew this church
knew this was unacceptable. I couldn’t even talk to a man without
getting accused of doing something, and here he was riding in a car,
going to lunch and other places with his friend, and many people,
including her husband thought they were having an affair, these were
people not connected to the church, people don’t generally think
things like that unless you give them a reason to.</i></b></span></div>
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<li><div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
Horrible Holidays</div>
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Every year the in-laws would come home
for the holidays, what was supposed to be a happy, family
togetherness time generally turned into a fight between the mother in
law and I, every year this would happen, the exception being 2011,
there was a grim prognosis about my ex, his mother knew I’d return
home and not have much to do with her. The last Christmas in Graham
was 2012, we went on some trip out to the coast, to West Port, we
were very tight on money. In seminary, you pay your tithe, you pay
for classes, they may throw an additional class in there, so you will
have to come up with the money on the spot to pay for that one too,
and you pay a babysitter to watch your children at night time if they
are young, you’re broke most of the time, unless you have a really
good job, which was never the case with our family, we just didn’t
have money. I volunteered at a clothing bank, and I got cloths for
the girls and I there, I also volunteered at their school, I had
never stopped getting out and giving of myself, I like helping
people, I enjoyed being around kids, and spending time with my
daughters at their school.
</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b><i><span style="color: lime;">We went on a trip we couldn’t afford
to spend it with the in-laws, I budget the money that was on the food
stamps very wisely. I raised chickens, and grew a garden, and made
everything from scratch just to make ends meet, she wanted us to
spend $100 for a 2 or 3 day trip for groceries, I said that takes
most of our budget, we don’t have that money, so a fight started on
that end.</span></i></b> We drove there on a tire that was bad, my ex said the
struts went out, no the tread was bald on the tire and it shook the
whole way, I was so scared to drive that car, but away we went. While
there, we did not get along any better, by this time my oldest
daughter was 11, the mother in-law accused her of breaking something,
which she didn’t and she yelled at my daughter and she went on and
on about it. She said I didn’t pay enough attention to my children,
how could I let this happen, I woke up early one of mornings and went
walking, I just couldn’t take it, I needed to breathe for a minute.
She found fault with me for that, saying she was stuck taking care of
my kids, I was gone half an hour. I was made to clean the entire
place we were staying in, I had to do dishes, vacuum, and clean up
after they all ate. I was told I was lazy, and that I did not help
clean or pull my weight there, they all went to the beach, while I
was miserable the whole trip. One thing after another, we got home,
and I told my ex I would never go on a “family” trip with him
again.</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b><i><span style="color: lime;">New Year’s rolled around, and I knew
something was wrong, one night after a church service, we were called
to his parents’ house, my kids were sent in the other room to watch
a movie, and there I was on a couch by myself, with all of them
looking at me, something I was all too familiar with, the mother
in-law started in, why do you volunteer so much, why do you help at
your daughter’s school? I said because I enjoy doing that, she
said, you should help me clean my house, I helped my mother in law,
you should help me clean, you spend all your time volunteering and
not helping me. I said, I did help you clean your house, I still do I
just don’t want to be over here all the time, I have my own family,
plus I’m still in seminary. It blew up from there, all I could
think as words rolled out of her mouth was Jesus sat there quite
before them as they were putting him on trial, I just held my tongue,
I said nothing else, I blink away the tears, this went on for a
couple of hours. They said say something, now is your time to talk, I
said no I have nothing to say, the mother in-law was so red in the
face, and upset, she could not get a reaction out of me. We left, I
made up in my mind I would never ever treat any member of my
congregation that way, I really had a desire to help people, and I
never wanted to make anyone feel that way. To me getting out in the
ministry was more important than her, or what she said or the
accusations. I graduated seminary, and we left to the ministry
shortly after.</span></i></b></div>
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Their Greatest Calling</div>
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We went out into the “harvest” in
2013, having sold all of our furniture, and just about everything we
owned, we got a church, a place and started, it was a lot of work,
but I was in some ways glad to be there, because this was what I
thought was the greatest calling, it was the height of that church,
one preachers wife said it was a higher calling than being the
president’s wife. That year for the holidays, the in-laws came to
visit us, we had everyone over to our apartment, she spilled stuff
all over the oven, burned it in and made a mess, I wanted to clean it
up, she said no, go to the church and clean, you put that above
everything else, and like every other holiday it went downhill from
there. We fought like children over dumb stuff, she accused me of not
learning to play piano correctly, she got so mad when I tried to tell
her what I was learning, she thought I was arguing with her, while we
were at dinner, she refused to talk to me, she intentionally ignored
me. Her husband even told her she misunderstood me, the dad was
always so quite, and never said much, most of the accusations came
from the mother in law, so I knew it was bad if he stood up for me. I
told my ex about it, he said, she is an overseers wife, she would
never act like that, you’re mistaken, he later asked his mom about
it, and she admitted to ignoring me, and what I was saying on purpose
that evening during our Christmas dinner. I was so tired of it, never
feeling good enough, I was the country bumpkin who’d married her
baby boy, and I just couldn’t do anything right no matter what,
eventually her tactics no longer worked on me, I’d grown numb to
them, I stopped caring.</div>
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The Wake Up Call</div>
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I had decided to make some smoothies
and salsa, not knowing I was deathly allergic to a tropical fruit.
<b><i><span style="color: lime;">The next day I woke up with hives all over my body, you could not see
my skin, it was red everywhere, that was a Thursday morning, by
Friday morning my throat was beginning to swell, I told my ex I
needed to go to the hospital, he said it cost too much, take
Benadryl, I said I’ve already maxed it out, I can’t take any more
and its doing nothing. Saturday morning I woke up, I stepped out of
bed, and felt sharp, knife stabbing pains on my feet, I had welds an
inch thick on the soles of my feet. I got sick to my stomach then
fell on the floor and went into convulsions, the pain in my stomach
felt like giving birth. I managed to make it back to our room, where
I got sick again and fell on the floor in convulsion, tried to wake
my ex up, I need to go to the ER, this is bad. He laid in bed I fell,
it took all the strength I had to pull myself up on the side of the
bed, I was bent over in pain, I hit him with a pillow he finally got
up. It took him another 40 minutes to an hour to realize something
was wrong, by this time I was calling a church member to get me to
the hospital. He came over and said, oh you poor thing you are
shaking, I was in the midst of a serious of convulsions, my kids woke
up, my middle daughter was so frightened by my appearance the first
words out of her mouth were mommy are you going to die? He dropped me
off at the ER, I walked in side doubled over by the amount of pain I
was in, I went in, they immediately pumped me full of meds, steroids,
and H1 and H2 inhibitors, on the way out my ex went to get the car,
they stopped me and said ma’am you need to pay, I said I don’t
know how to pay, I don’t know which account has money, I was still
in pain, my stomach still having mini piercing aches, he came in and
paid, and I walked to the car, without his help. That night he kept
waking me up to take Benadryl, the most you can take is 8 in a day,
when he came around the third time, it would have been 6 pills, I
slapped his hand away with the pills in it, saying leave me alone,
that’s too much. I’m tiny my body doesn’t take that many meds
at once. Two days later he had me out in southern heat in the summer
at a church bbq, where I had prepared a bunch of food, I was so weak
and so tired I left early. For 6 weeks, if you touched my skin it
would bubble up and turn red from the inside out. I dropped a ton of
weight, I couldn’t eat any greasy food, mostly only fruit and
veggies or my stomach would start aching again. The mother in-law
said that was normal for my skin to do that because I was so fair
skinned, I think she missed a </span></i></b><b><i><span style="color: lime;">lot there, I’m very olive, and always
have been because of my ancestry.</span></i></b></div>
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From Bad to Really Bad</div>
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<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<b><i><span style="color: magenta;">My ex refused to work a job, our vehicle broke down, I had been sick, things were falling to pieces, it led to him and I donating blood plasma to make ends meet, to get to conference even. He sat there in the chair next to me one of the
times and the nurse told him, I’m worried about your wife sir, her
veins are so tiny, we are worried about blowing them. He said well
thank God we can use it now. His mother said I was healthier than her
son, so I should donate plasma, she told me of other preachers wives
who had done it and wore the scares from it to sacrifice for God. It
could have caused massive damage to my body for a mere $50.</span></i></b> The last
time I donated plasma, I felt so ashamed, I wasn’t doing it for a
good cause, I heard my grandfather’s voice speak to me in my mind,
“you were raised better than this, get up, work hard, and do what
you have to do to take care of your family, no one else is going to
do it for you.” I went to conference September 2014, just to listen
to the new head pastor bash some guy for wearing shorts. My thought
wasn’t bash the husband, but what does the wife have in her heart,
why would she want her husband blasted from the pulpit like that. I
saw my friends, they had been so energetic and hopeful, they looked
worn and burnt out, I felt that way too. This place and all it held
no longer meant anything to me.
</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
I looked at my ex and said what if we
would have done what God wanted us to do instead of following a man?
Where would we have been, we were so broke going $900 a month in the
whole, his mommy and daddy were floating us by. I just couldn’t
live like that anymore, I told him I know longer wanted to go to that
church. I was told if you live here, you will go to church with me,
anyone wife under my roof will go to church, so you either stay here
and go to church or you go to your sisters. I said I will go and
visit my sister, for a few weeks and come back before Christmas with
money from the job I get so we have a nice Christmas for the girls.</div>
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<li><div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
Set Up</div>
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<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
Looking back on it I should have seen
it coming, but you never want to believe your spouse of almost 9
years would do something like that to you. He said I love you baby, I
support you, I understand you are doing this to help the family, I
have all the text messages, he lied. Within 6 days of me leaving he
moved my family out of the state we lived in, his parents helped him.
<b><i><span style="color: lime;">While I was away his parents treated my oldest two children like
garbage. She had my oldest scrub the inside of the toilet with a
paper towel and her bare hands, my ex had been ill and it was nasty,
she was so sickened by this. He called the new bigwig within a few
hours and said I left him and the church, I was blacklisted within 5
hours of being on the bus. I had not left him, I was desperate to
help my family. The story goes I cheated on him with some guy at our
church, left him and left the church. He said the same thing of his
first wife as well, it worked one time why not use it again.
</span></i></b></div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
He called and texted me at all times of
the day, I knew my marriage was over because I finally put my foot
down and said I’m no longer doing it your way. I ended up working
overtime and he would text me or blow my phone up until 1 or 2 in the
morning. I went 2 weeks without my kids, he said he would fly the
oldest 2 girls to me, since they are not his, and he kept the
youngest. He said he left $200 in our joint checking account and I
could use that, he also wanted me to deposit my pay checks into it. I
told him I was not going to do that, I realized something was really
wrong. When I called the bank there was $37 in our joint account. I
had not worked a job in 8 ½ years, I had a couple hundred dollars I
could use on a credit card and that was it. I had not even gotten a
pay check yet. He ended up flying my kids to an airport 5 hours away
and gave me a 2 day notice to pick them up. I hit my knees and just
cried for several hours that night, I didn’t know how I would get
my babies. An agency ended up giving me the money to get the girls
and paying for my rental vehicle, they offered compassion and mercy,
my step dad picked them up from the airport, and I drove home, a 7
hour drive in December after working a 9 hour day.
</div>
<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
<a href="https://www.blogger.com/null" name="_GoBack"></a>I ended up
working 3 jobs, I did not have a car, I relied on my sister to give
me a ride, sometimes she would drop me off at a coffee shop, so I
could use the wifi, or talk to a Domestic Violence Agency or take
care of appointments. I walked in 10 degree weather in December, I
was up by the Minnesota, South Dakota border. He would call me at
work and harass me. He had called my oldest daughters dad and said he
wanted to prove me an unfit mother, and get me to lose all the girls.
He called CPS in 3 states on me, every case was thrown out. I asked
him how was I good enough to work in your children’s church for 12
years, I volunteered in a clothing bank, at their schools, at a
Crisis Pregnancy Center, and started a girl scout troop, if I was so
bad with children why would I have ever been allowed in a children’s
church. He told me if I really loved God I would drive to our church
in South Dakota, it was 2 ½ hours away, this was the dead of winter,
the roads continually get shut down because they have so much snow,
and blowing snow, the day he told me if I really loved God I would
make the drive, it was -30, with a howling wind and a foot of snow.
If I really loved God, I’d risk dying or breaking down, and being
stranded with my kids on some highway, how absurd.
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<div style="margin-bottom: 0in;">
He continually called my work, he
canceled my car insurance one day when I was at work, he constantly
did things behind my back, he called one day and said you have a
month to come here and get your things or I will throw them away and
give them to goodwill. He told me my 3 jobs were not that hard, one
really wasn’t a job, it was more of a gig. <b><i><span style="color: magenta;">I went to court in the
summer of 2015 to get a divorce, we agreed and settled, his original
lawyer ended up going to a mental hospital, so he got a new lawyer
just a few days before it was set to be finale, this drug the case
out longer. He switched therapist, and drug it out more, finally in
April 2016 we were done, 10 days after the judge signed off on our
divorce paper he was already remarried to his first wife. I cried at
this point, not because I wanted him back, but I wondered why did you
drag this horrible experience out, why did you put me through this. I
was hindered from doing a lot of things, in my personal life, or
advancing I was stuck in a holding pattern because I was still
married. </span></i></b><b><i><span style="color: magenta;">Some people do not understand the
decisions I was forced to make, I really wanted my youngest daughter,
but I went up against people who had money, I couldn’t afford it, I
sat down many days, many nights, I prayed for months. I weighed the
options, I had to make a decision to do what was best for all my
girls, so I do not have my youngest daughter. He told me in the
beginning if I ever left him he would make sure I never got her, that
he would bury me in the process, I’m still standing, but he tried
his hardest to paint me as a bad person.</span></i></b></div>
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This experience has not been easy, it’s
been a painful one, words cannot even describe the things I felt or
went through. I went to therapy for almost a year. I search out
answers, I reflect, and just try to take one day at a time, and to
make the best out of every day. Things that seem normal to a lot of
people, were no longer normal for me, like wearing pants, or jewelry,
make up, or even cutting my hair. It’s hard for someone to
understand unless they have been through an experience like it. I
wanted to share my story, I’m no longer scared to. I really don’t
want to see anyone else go through what I’ve been through. I’m
one of many people who has been done wrong by the group I was in. You
lose your self-identity, I couldn’t even recognize who I was
anymore. If you gut feeling is telling you something isn’t right
then pay attention to it. Many have been wronged, spiritually abused,
mentally and some even physically abused by people in this
organization. I urge you, to research it, don’t just attend and
follow them blindly. They suck you in before you even know what
happened. They act like they will accept you and love you so much,
then they start correcting you and the way you are dressed, they will
use examples if you truly loved God you would do things this way or
that way. One of the first major warning signs I should have realized
is within the first couple months of me going the pastor got up
behind the pulpit and said if your family tells you this is a cult,
it’s not, we are not a cult. They started expecting you to go to
all the events, it was literally 6 or 7 days a week, and twice on
Saturday and Sunday, demanding time, money, driving your vehicle to
haul others around, which takes gas, and is wear and tear on your
car, when the car breaks down, well, it’s just the devil messing.
They expect you to go to conference twice a year, ministers are
required to go to one or they will lose their license. There is not
much time for any outside activities, and you spend little time with
your family because you are always so busy running for a group of
people. Google what a cult is, you will see the warning signs.</div>
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I was left an empty shell, my world was
ripped out from under my feet, I still cry sometimes, in some ways
I’m broken and I don’t know how long it will take to heal from
some of the things I’ve been through. This group was 13 years of my
life. If you want to leave secretly reach out to family and friends,
and just go, I had to delete my old Facebook account. <b><i><span style="color: lime;">If you are a
woman and have children, go to a domestic violence shelter, and flee,
take all your children with you, get a protective order put in place
so you can keep your children. Be prepared to stand strong, they will
smear your name, lie about you, try to destroy you. If you leave the
church it is automatic grounds for divorce. Don’t think it won’t
happen to you, they arrange marriages, they have a hand in putting
people together, the environment in this church is a breeding ground
for abusive relationships, I’ve heard by golly I’m the man of the
house, is my wife don’t like it there’s the door. Women are not
treated well here, you won’t be allowed to go to college, to work a
job, and you will fight if you wish to even volunteer, they want to
keep you at home and isolated. Did you ever think about what it’s
like for your daughter? My oldest once told me, why would I go to
college, I’m just going to get married anyway, I can’t do
anything with it. Is that what you really want for your daughters?</span></i></b> I
want mine to thrive, I think marriage is a good thing, but what if
they do not wish to marry, what then? You have to sit down and really
think about the future, they claim when you leave, you will suffer
and have a horrible life, that things will fall apart, no one will
love you and you won’t be blessed, and you certainly are not in the
will of God. That is so far from the truth, I’ve had complete
strangers show me more love and mercy than anyone in that
organization ever did. The only heartache and suffering comes from my
ex and what he put me through. If anyone happens to invite you to
that group run away, do not go, don’t even subject yourself to it.
I know there are more of us out there, many have remained silent.
This is a long story, I want the information out there, I don’t
want people to experience the pain I have felt, you’re not alone,
sometimes the best fight we can fight back with is simply standing,
and letting our voices be heard.</div>
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<b><i><span style="color: magenta;">(1) When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give [it] in her hand, and send her out of his house. (2) And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's [wife]. (3) And [if] the latter husband hate her, and write her a bill of divorcement, and giveth [it] in her hand, and sendeth her out of his house; or if the latter husband die, which took her [to be] his wife; (4) Her former husband, which sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after that she is defiled; for that [is] abomination before the LORD: and thou shalt not cause the land to sin, which the LORD thy God giveth thee [for] an inheritance. (Deu 24:1-4 KJV)</span></i></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: red;"><br /></span></b><b><span style="color: red;">We want folks to see the corruption. The above picture was posted on May 21st of this year before the ink dried on David Jr's second divorce. This is David Jr's new bride. Actually it's his old bride, also. This woman whose name is Amy was married to Jr. at 16 years of age and dumped about 14 or 15 years ago by David Jr. when he got sick of her. This remarriage to Davyo's X, is most likely another stop gap relationship and if you blink your eyes, you might find Davyo going through a third divorce. Stay with us, because this gets confusing as with many other ntcc sanctioned marriages and divorces. But there is more to this story. </span></b><br />
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<b><span style="color: red;">Who is this girl, you might ask? This is Julia. She started attending the ntcc while Davyo Tieman was going through his second divorce. Fortunately this woman was smart enough to get out of the ntcc before getting trapped in matrimony with this wrecking ball of marriages. David Jr. was seen on many occasions flirting with this girl while going through his second divorce. She was the one that David was hoping replace his wife of 13 years with, but things didn't work out with this one. She must have known that David was going through a divorce and a light came on. DANGER! DANGER! DANGER! Julia left the cult and dodged a serious bullet. The match making machine sputtered and gagged so David Jr. had to settle for a consolation prize. They hooked him up with his first wife. Poor Amy. Raised in the ntcc. Abused and dumped. You know that Amy had to be talked about like a dog and treated like the scum of the earth by Nichelle. Now Amy is trapped in this family of abusive and manipulative con artists again. What a sick and demented carousel/roller coaster/house of horror. Dave Sr. and Nichelle had to postpone their traveling tour in their rolling cathedral to self wealth for about a year to get Davyo hooked up again. Soon Jr. will be given another church to lord over and will repeat the vicious ntcc cycle of chicanery.</span></b><br />
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Over on Chief's blog there is an individual that goes by the pen-name "D" who has recently started attending the ntcc. In a lot of ways he or she is a lot like many of us were when we got involved in the cult. We all pledged our lives to this group and hung on every word spoken from the pulpit. Not sure how others felt but for me, it was all or nothing. As Maurice, Diana and others have recently stated on our blog and Chief's blog, we all gave up our families and pledged our undying loyalty to the ntcc. Unfortunately, when many of us first started out on our cult journey, we didn't have the internet and information was controlled to the extent that we didn't really have a clue what was going on, who had left, where the money was going, why families were being broken apart and what these under-educated, fire and brimstone preaching self-proclaimed apostles were all about. </div>
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I can almost sympathize with D if it weren't for all the information that he has at his fingertips. Another ntcc'r got on and started talking about how that none of us attend church and supposedly all we do is complain about giving money to the church and how we didn't realize how it costs money to keep the heat and lights on and to pay rent, and so on. To be perfectly honest with you, that was completely lame and ignorant because that person has obviously been in the ntcc for a while and has been drinking their Koolaid for quite some time. If they had a brain or read even a few blog posts, they would see how much we have given to the ntcc, making us very familiar with the costs. We were the ones footing those bills, not kekel or any of the other lame so-called full-time "ministers" who never ministered. Seriously, screaming at G.I.s to "give 'til it hurts" or telling some poor, unsuspecting, first-time visitor lady that "she is going to split hell wide open for being a Jezebel" because she wears make up, that is NOT ministering. Minister, by definition, means "servant". You would be hard pressed to find a single "servant" heart in most ntcc "pastors". If they had one coming into ntcc, it was exploited to serve the board members' pleasure: Scrub my mansion, wash my million dollar Recreational Vehicle, shine my hand-stiched, over-priced, Italian leather wingtip shoes. Eventually the wanna-be bible school student gets the lesson pounded into him that the members are there to serve the pastor. Which is totally opposite of the example set by Jesus, Who was a servant of all.<br />
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Following is a video showing disciples who imitate Christ by going out to be servants of all, as they state in the video's description:<br />
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"Video slide show to the Misty Edwards song "Servant Of All"Elevate Him relief team in action.<br />
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Pictures of our last trip to Talanga, Honduras building a medical clinic and working at an orphanage. Bringing relief supplies out to the slums and dumps in the city."</blockquote>
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Since the first video got removed by the user, we will share this alternate so you can hear the song. It states the following in the description:<br />
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I've been trying to be good and have compassion for ntcc'rs; but when someone as ignorant as the anonymous commentator on Chief's blog comes along, it's hard to maintain composure. It's no secret that the ntcc cult leaders are getting filthy rich. They don't even hide it any more. I know that many of you ntcc'rs use the excuse that God is blessing them; but it's really time to wake up, turn on your brain and stop being so gullible. Chief has broken this down so perfectly that a first grader would be able to understand it; and yet people still find a way to ignore the hypocrisy and double standards. We have tried the sympathetic approach and people just don't respond. I really want to believe that there are some in the ntcc that are just naive and uninformed; but when you take it all in at face value, a person would have to be an idiot to read these blogs and ignore the warnings. <br />
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Now I know that we all were deceived. Such were some of you, or us. I get that. But we didn't have the internet; and we didn't have the voices of hundreds of people who have been betrayed to warn us. I look back on my own life and the things that happened in the churches that I attended. I was totally ignorant and unwilling to listen to reason; and we didn't even have blogs back in those days to educate us on what was really happening. But people today have no excuse. The truth is out.<br />
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So we are going to tell you straight up what the ntcc is all about. You can ignore us if that's what you choose to do; or you can dig for the facts before you jump to conclusions about us. We are not out here trying to convince anyone to give up on God or stop going to church. While many of you have rushed to judgment about us, by calling us God haters, and pointing your fingers at us as if we were the scum of the earth because some of us don't go to church and don't give large amounts of our money to some huckster, we are only trying to warn you of the danger we have already encountered. <br />
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Here's the deal. The ntcc is a big time cult. So if you want the truth, continue to read, otherwise you might as well stop reading this and continue on with your phony hypocritical life, thinking that you are right and the rest of the world is wrong. Let's compare the ntcc to Jesus and the Disciples:<br />
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1. Jesus loved people for who they were and there is no record of Jesus ever asking for a dime from any of His followers. The ntcc will not accept you as a brother unless you pay 10% of your income to them. This is the biggest red flag in the ntcc, but you ntcc'rs ignore it and pretend like it's biblical to pay tithe. Nowhere in the bible does it say that New Testament Christians have to pay 10% of their income to a huckster. Jesus said, "Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men." Mat. 12:31 The ntcc says: "All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men, but failure to pay tithe and give in offerings shall not be forgiven". Try not paying your tithe to them and see how that works for you in the ntcc.<br />
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2. Jesus loved the poor and ministered to them. The ntcc despises the poor and tells you not to bring the homeless to church. They say not to give your money to the poor, or any charities. It says as much in their bylaws. Tithe gets paid to the pastor and then double tithe gets sent to Graham. They are not Levitical priests; and the Old Testament practice of paying tithe to the Levites is no longer in effect! None of that is biblical; but then again, many of you ntcc'rs don't really know the bible. Church members are told <b>NOT</b> to give money to the homeless or poor, which the ntcc calls bums. When Judas took the money bag, the disciples thought that Jesus was instructing him to give to the poor (John 13:29). Why would they think that if Jesus hadn't ever instructed them to give to the poor? Many times Jesus spake of giving to the poor or giving to others, but never of paying tithe to some huckster so they could get rich! The ntcc con-men want your money so they can live like the rich and famous. They don't care about the poor; and they never have. Open your eyes.<br />
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3. Jesus had mercy on people. He came to heal and forgive and to love us and the rest of the world. He forgave the woman at the well with five husbands who was "with" a man she was not married to; and Jesus forgave the woman taken in adultery, who the Pharisees wanted stoned, while the man was nowhere to be found; (it takes two to "tango"!). Jesus told countless men and women, "Thy sins are forgiven." But the ntcc will cast you out of their presence if you don't pay your tithe to them. It's all about money. Open your eyes. They will cast you out for missing church services. They will cast you out for many so-called offenses.<br />
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We rely on God's grace and mercy. We are full of flaws; and we <b>CAN</b> remember the last time we sinned, unlike Davis who stated that he couldn't remember the last time he sinned. What a lie! In the ntcc you are expected to pretend like you are perfect and that you are above sin. They are hypocrites and they ignore reality. If we are perfect it is only in Christ, by His work on the cross and perfect blood. None of those hypocrites are without sin. In the ntcc people look down their noses on other religions and folks who don't believe as ntcc'rs believe. They think their doo doo doesn't stink like everyone else's. But it does. And I know, I'm so far from perfect it isn't funny. But I'll admit that, unlike an ntcc religious huckster who claims to be perfect.<br />
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4. Jesus discouraged adultery and divorce while the ntcc encourages both. The ntcc has broken up so many marriages and families! And there are people in the ntcc who have divorced, remarried, divorced again and remarried as many as 4 or 5 times, and that's just the ones we know about! They try to use abandonment as an excuse. Not so. There are many divorced couples that stayed in the ntcc and both of the vow-breakers remarried within the ntcc to other ntcc partners. We aren't personally condemning divorced people. That's not our point. The point is that ntcc claims to be a bible believing church while manipulating relationships and dividing families, which violates everything Jesus taught about divorce and adultery.<br />
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For me this is a huge problem; because I was denied marriage by this freak-show cult. You single fellas reading this blog, get ready to be single for the rest of your life, unless you can kiss-up to the board members by getting an office job at the bible school or slave-labor job on their so-called building crew. Otherwise, the prospect for you getting a lady to marry you are pretty slim. Oh I know, they keep a few works open overseas so they can recruit new sisters from third world countries. After all, coming from life in a third world country makes the borg poverty life style look pretty good by comparison. But most women from the States will see that the rules and financial situation in a borg marriage are quite unappealing compared to a life in a normal Christian church environment. So, Brothers, unless you are willing to break the rules of the ntcc "on the wall" arranged marriages set up, you will be single forever. Truly, if you think it's hard to get preapproved for a loan, wait until you seek borg approval for a wife! But that's not what God wants. God said in [Prov 18:22 KJV] "[Whoso] findeth a wife findeth a good [thing], and obtaineth favour of the LORD." And Jesus said <br />
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[Mat 19:8-12 KJV] 8 He saith unto them, Moses because of the hardness of your hearts suffered you to put away your wives: but from the beginning it was not so. 9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except [it be] for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery. 10 His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with [his] wife, it is not good to marry. 11 But he said unto them, All [men] cannot receive this saying, save [they] to whom it is given. 12 For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from [their] mother's womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He that is able to receive [it], let him receive [it].</blockquote>
You see, marriage was meant to be a blessing. It is an institution created and blessed by God, a holy union between man and woman that is meant to last for life since the two become one. When the thought of that seemed impossible to the disciples, who protested saying it wasn't good for a man to marry, Jesus set them straight. He taught them that not everyone can live in celibacy without a wife. He said some men are forced into it, being made eunuchs by others. Some have that gift from God, that they are able to receive celibacy. But not all. God never intended for you to be single forever just because some religious con man tells you it has to be that way. That's not God's plan for you. And if you do find a wife, watch out. If at any time she sees what these hucksters are all about, the borg will send tanya kekel or verna davis or even joe olson to try and break up your happy little marriage that God said should last a lifetime! It's been done so much in the ntcc, it's a crying shame. Divorce on demand. Remarrying without biblical grounds for divorce. It all adds up to fornication and adultery on demand sponsored by your ntcc! And let's not even say what effect this has on your children, whom kekel described as "filthy evil children who throw fits in the cookie aisle of the grocery store".<br />
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A brief pause before we go on...... Is any of this sinking in? Are you going to continue to claim innocence after reading all of this. It's time to wake up and smell the coffee. There is no common sense in following double standard hypocrites. You might as well tear the bible up, get rid of all of Jesus' teachings, fold up the banner of Christianity, stop playing church and die and go to hell in style. That's what they will say to you if you don't fall in line with all of their man made doctrine.<br />
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5. Jesus never told people how to dress, but he told them how not to dress. He said: Luk 20:46 KJV "Beware of the scribes, which desire to walk in long robes, and love greetings in the markets, and the highest seats in the synagogues, and the chief rooms at feasts" Mat 23:5 KJV "But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments" In other words the outward appearance was much more important than the inward. The ntcc used to preach holiness or hell and they would condemn people to hell for not dressing a certain way. This was all done in pride, and to make ntcc members feel superior to everyone else. Jesus never did this. Read your bibles. Wake up. Open your eyes.<br />
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6. Jesus never controlled people's relationships, like the ntcc does. The ntcc destroyed my relationship with Ange and there are a whole slew of testimonies from former ntcc cult members who have experienced the same sort of thing. Stop making excuses for your cult leaders. They control and manipulate relationships. They match-make and interfere with the natural order of peoples' lives. I love my wife and we missed out on the best years of our youth together because some manipulative jerks and jerkstresses made decisions for us that forever changed our lives. Read the blogs and you will find that this happened over and over again.<br />
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7. Jesus never required his disciples to keep a bunch of rules or to live by the letter of the law. They picked corn on the Sabbath day, they ate with unwashed hands, they didn't fast and walk around with a sad countenance like the ntcc-type religious Pharisees. The ntcc teaches you not to eat french fries with your fingers. They strain at gnats and swallow camels, while pointing their fingers at those who just want to live their lives as Christians. <br />
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8. Jesus wasn't a double standard hypocrite. He didn't tell the disciples to live one way while he lived another way. He didn't allow the Pharisees to get away with hypocrisy and he's not going to allow the ntcc cult leaders to get away with it either. Do you think Jesus really approves of Kekel collecting tithe and getting rich while people are depriving their own families and children of the basic necessities of life?<br />
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9. Jesus never told people they had to attend church in a building to be saved. The ntcc teaches that if you miss one of their 5 church services per week or any of their mandatory functions, you couldn't possibly love God and you will miss the rapture. It's become a litmus test to ntcc'rs. They question our faith because some of us don't attend a church every week and this is yet another unforgivable sin to them. If you don't faithfully follow some religious huckster and give them a bunch of your money, you couldn't possibly be saved. Where does it say that in the bible? These days it's all about money and most of the preachers on the face of the earth are in the business of accumulating money, real estate and buildings. They couldn't possibly further the gospel unless they have people willing to support their programs and buy their church edifices. Supporting these hucksters is not what the author of Hebrews had in mind when he said: "Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some [is]; but exhorting [one another]: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching." Heb 10:25 KJV<br />
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Is the ntcc really what serving God is all about? The answer is no. Jesus doesn't approve of hypocrisy. The ntcc has gotten away with too many atrocities; and it's because of naive and gullible people or people who refuse to acknowledge the truth that the hucksters continue to thrive. ntcc has amassed an multi-million dollar real estate empire; and they have made themselves rich off of the suffering of others. They criticize and mock you for wasting your money on frivolous and wasteful endeavors like paper towels or paper napkins, while they live like kings and laugh at you for your stupidity. You have to wake up. They are treating you like a bunch of idiots because they know they can threaten you with hell; and you'll do anything they say. This has gone on for decades; and the only reason it keeps going on is because you let it.<br />
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The sad thing about it is that 99% of you ntcc'rs will not stay in the ntcc for the rest of your lives. When you are no longer useful to them, you will be kicked to the curb. You think that you are one of the chosen few; but as long as you follow this cult you are enabling the ntcc to profit off of your ignorance. You are not chosen because of your great faith, or your undying loyalty. You are chosen because you are a sucker; and you will continue to give everything you have to them. It's all about money and numbers. Davis has said this over and over. You are being used. The joke is on you. If you don't wake up now, you will waste years and perhaps decades of your life. Just sit back and watch as guys you were in the Army with get married, raise a family, buy a house, retire with a military pension and start a civilian career. Watch as they go off to war and come home as heroes, and see their kids get married and raise grandkids. Just let everyone else and all of God's intended blessings for you pass you by as you shine the shoes of people who despise and use you.<br />
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But don't listen to us. We are just bitter exers. According to your cult leaders our only purpose is to hate God and keep you out of heaven. But who is getting rich off of you? Not us. Wake up and smell the coffee. Open your eyes. Use your brain. Nobody is trying to influence you to leave God. We just want you to find your way out of the cult and stop enabling your cult leaders.<br />
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A true church leader doesn't want 10% of your money and neither does Jesus. A true church leader doesn't run people off because they won't conform to a bunch of rules that aren't even in the bible. The ntcc is not a bible believing church and we blog to expose them. They can't defend their actions and they make no attempt to be transparent about any of the heresies they preach.<br />
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We can talk about this stuff until we are blue in the face; and we have. You can read the volumes of testimonies on all of the blogs. The fact is that the ntcc is being run by a bunch of hucksters. Actually a better name for them is grifters. That's what they really are. A grifter is a con artist: someone who swindles people out of money through fraud. If there's one type of person you don't want to trust, it's a grifter: someone who cheats others out of money. Grifters are also known as chiselers, defrauders, gougers, scammers, swindlers, and flim-flam men. Selling a bridge and starting a Ponzi scheme are things a grifter might do. The difference between a grifter and a thief is a grifter tricks you out of money through lies, while the thief takes it by force. The end result is the same.<span style="background-color: white; color: #222222; font-family: "arial" , sans-serif; font-size: 20px; line-height: 24px;"> </span><a href="https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/grifter" rel="nofollow" style="font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 20px; line-height: 24px;" target="_blank">link</a><br />
The ntcc leaders are grifters of the worst sort and in the end if you choose to follow them, you are the one who will get burned.<div class="blogger-post-footer">Comments have been disabled on this blog.
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People who come on the blogs and share their past often lend credibility to their accounts of abuse by sharing their name and giving details. Every credible testimony that we have received has been accompanied by the names of actual people and families who have been mistreated and often kicked to the curb by those who profess to be chosen by God and called to spiritually lead men and women. </div>
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Kekel used to attempt to defend the indefensible; but he got his butt handed to him on Factnet over and over again. He no longer even tries to defend what he does. Why is that? Kekel is scared. Kekel does not believe the bible. He is fearful and unbelieving and has been called out too many times. He has no answer because there is no answer. There are many brow beating, stomping, screaming phony preachers who make a living off of causing others to fear and doubt their own faith. They seem to project their own doubt and unbelief on others. </div>
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What are people scared of? The ntcc hucksters should be scared, not us. They profess to be chosen by God and they do everything in their power to destroy men and women and their families, which is contrary to God's word, which they claim to believe. If they believed God's word they would not preach tithe or hell doctrine that does not exist in the bible. They have been asked on Chief's blog, our blog and GS/DS blog several times to defend their false tithe doctrine and they haven't; because they can't. If they believed the word of God they would not encourage divorce. If the Tieman's believed in God they would not have orchestrated the divorce of David Tieman Junior and his third re-marriage in rapid succession, before the ink dried on the divorce paperwork! They would not have encouraged Regina Olson Brill to leave her husband for something as stupid as him not wearing a shirt in a swimming pool. What a bunch of God haters and hypocrites to destroy relationships over such idiotic circumstances. They don't believe the bible. If they believed God's word they would not have caused scores of preachers to get vasectomies by jacking up their wives for 'hindering the work of the Lord' by getting pregnant. These people are not of God. They should be afraid, not us. </div>
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Many who sympathize with the ntcc are scared also. They are afraid to say who they are. That is why the ntcc continues to operate unchecked. People are afraid of them. For everyone that has outed the ntcc, there are many who remain silent. We haven't remained silent, because unlike the ntcc, we actually believe the bible. We don't believe that God's people should be used to make merchandise of or to be abused in any way. That's just common decency. Treat people right. Those are the basics of Christianity. </div>
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There is no need to feel guilty or down-trodden. I know there are good people in the ntcc, but they are being used just like we were. As long as the cult leaders in the ntcc continue to reject the truth and teach lies, they will be blind leaders of the blind and their tires will be spinning while they go nowhere.</div>
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I don't care if you are a Democrat, Republican, Libertarian or Independent; at this point our country is in trouble. Our national debt is nearly at 20 trillion dollars; and as our military is in decay, countries like China and Russia are continually building up their military forces. The powers that be would much rather finance abortions than strengthen the defense of our country. Over one million abortions occur every year; yet we are more worried about global warming, offending Islamic terrorists and disarming our own citizens than we are about using our own resources to defend against those who want to end our freedom. Neither Hillary or Donald Trump are going to be able to straighten this mess out. Our politicians are representing their own interests rather than the interests of "We the People".<br />
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At this point there is only One that can intervene on our behalf and fix this broken nation; and that is God. Our way of life is being threatened by those who are supposed to protect it. We need God more than ever. <br />
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<b><span style="color: red;"><i>"If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face,and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land."</i></span></b><br />
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I believe that within this verse lies the only solution that can help us as a nation. Many churches are failing. The ntcc has their priorities all mixed up. They would rather focus on their own image than making things right with the many people they have wronged. Instead they continue to oppress people. They are more interested in erecting buildings and collecting money than they are in praying for this country. We really need to pray for each other and pray that God would restore this nation to the great country we once were. As a nation we think we are the only Super Power on the planet; but we have let our guard down. And the enemy knows it. We have freedom to vote; and everyone will vote for the person they believe will do the best job running this country. That is a personal decision that we all must make. I'm not thrilled about either of the choices; and politics is going to reach levels of hate that we've never seen.<br />
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We believe that the only effective thing we can do is pray. When it's all said and done, the only thing that matters, and the only thing that we can control is our own relationship with God. We only have one life and one chance at securing our own freedom in this life. You can mend your relationship with God by talking to Him. God doesn't want us to fail. He doesn't want our nation to fail either. If you don't know anything, know this: God is Love. God loves us. All God wants is us to Love Him and each other. Pray that it may be so.<br />
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<b><span style="color: red;"><i>"And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these."</i></span></b><br />
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Have you ever noticed how these new Christians begin to change as the years go by? The joy is zapped clean out of them. They end up with that glazed over look that is accompanied by a plastic smile. How does this happen to so many people in the ntcc? How do brothers and sisters that were filled with God's joy and peace end up miserable and hating everything to do with God in just a few short years? The ntcc will blame it on you and say that you just never got saved. But that just ain't so. The video below shows how it is in the ntcc. The first dog represents a new ntcc Christian who is full of energy and joy. The second dog represents a burnt out ntcc Christian who has been beaten down over the years and has lost his vision to overcome obstacles. Notice how his face has been bashed in from so many beat downs and also he is overweight. <br />
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One out of a hundred stay in the ntcc for more than a couple years, and that is a conservative estimate. Poor God. God is not able to keep all of those souls in the ntcc. The ones that stay for any length of time end up trapped in a religious routine where everything they do is patterned after the hollow souls of the morally corrupt cult leaders they follow. The joy of the Lord is sucked out of them as they conform to a bunch of rules that aren't even in the bible. They don't even realize why they do the things that they do. For example: It's payday! Let's all go cash our checks right away so we can pay our cult leader for our salvation. Let's completely shut off our brains while we listen to our cult leaders take Old Testament scriptures out of context and apply them to our lives. Let's force ourselves to dress a certain way and imitate our religious leaders by wearing the exact same clothing. Let's go to the kook store (secondhand store) and buy another outfit for five bucks so we can have more money to give our lazy, non-working, non-praying, religious huckster who calls himself a pastor. Let's isolate ourselves from our family and friends so we can focus on living by the letter of the law. <br />
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It's no wonder people are so beat down and worn out in the ntcc. There is really not a lot to live for. Let's drive by The Bonco and see if we can get a glimpse of the mansions that our cult leaders live in, all thanks to our endless supply of tithe dollars; and we can dream of the day that is promised to us that, if we continue to sacrifice, <b><i>one day</i></b> God will bless us as He has blessed them. Only that one day will never come as long as you stay in the ntcc. Gag, choke, puke. Hey, let's save up some money so we can get a vasectomy and deprive ourselves and our wives of any hope of having a family. That's a good idea. Maybe the task masters will see our sacrifice and show us a little favor. Meanwhile all of our task masters have children. Some (davis) have even adopted what may be his own illegitimate daughter (tanya kekel) from a possible affair with a Filipino woman.... Hmmm. Now we know why davis taught the false doctrine that children hinder the work of the Lawd.<br />
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If you are in the ntcc, and you are reading this, you need to wake up! Turn on your brain and ask God why you are following a bunch of money grubbing hypocrites. Where has the joy gone? Why is it such a chore and a burden to go to church and go through the motions? Five church services a week, but it's not doing anything for you. Five church services a week, and you are no more spiritual than a dung beetle. Five church services a week, and you can't even attend a relative's funeral or wedding without asking your pastor. If anything, it's torturing your soul.<br />
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You sing the same worn out songs over and over. You listen to the same worn out messages over and over. You watch people come and you watch people go. The only ones that stay around for any length of time are the ones that profit off of your misery; and they demonstrate the opposite of what Jesus demonstrated to the world. The poor are left behind. The ones with money either give so much that they can barely provide for their own families, or they pinch pennies to obtain the praise of their cult leaders. And yes, they are cult leaders. The ntcc is a cult, contrary to popular belief. Sure, they preach Christ. But they abuse the members, and that's what makes them a cult. Just look at the results in the lives of ntccers:<br />
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The love at first becomes indifference, and eventually becomes hate for anyone who doesn't agree with the twisted ntcc doctrine that everyone forces themselves to obey. In ntcc you are trained to hate the Baptists, the Catholics, the Charismatics, the Methodists ,the Presbyterians, the sinners, the God haters, the poor, the outcast, the downtrodden, the non-tithe payers, the pants-wearing women, the shorts-wearing men and everyone who doesn't accept your twisted ntcc view of the bible. You are left with an empty and plastic smile that you have learned to wear no matter how carnal you become.<br />
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I saw a "holiness" woman not long ago who was a truck driver. She wore all the frumpy garb that the ntcc women wear; and she was miserable. Some guys were cursing; and she angrily screamed at them from across the warehouse to stop cursing. From the time she got there, until the time she left, she was very unpleasant -- the opposite of how you would expect a Christian to be. She almost got run over by a forklift; because she was so oblivious to her own surroundings and in so much turmoil trying to correct others. She was a tortured soul, like many in the ntcc. We've seen it first hand over and over again in the ntcc. You can't really enjoy your salvation if it's based on false doctrine and tainted with toxic rules. If you are enabling your cult leaders to get rich while they preach false doctrine supported by twisted scriptures, you can only have so much joy and peace.<br />
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The new ntcc ministers want to set the world on fire. Some of them are very sincere; but they don't have a clue what they are actually doing to people. They pray; and they win souls. They reach people with the gospel; and these people are happy to be a part of the program. These new fragile souls are impressionable; and they are willing to do anything to conform in many cases. From the very beginning they are taught ntcc style Christianity; and later the majority of these unlearned zealous Christians with good intentions are handed off to the ntcc brainwashing academy, so they can learn to brainwash others and be just like the ones who manipulated them for personal gain. The most important doctrine they are taught is tithe. If you don't pay tithe in the ntcc, you can't be a Christian. This is false, corrupt doctrine. It's no different then requiring Christians to offer animal sacrifices. It's Old Testament law and is not required of anyone in the New Testament.<br />
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Guess what? The seed has come. The ntcc is mixing Old Testament law with New Testament faith based salvation so that hucksters like Kekel can get filthy rich off of those who are gullible enough to pay tithe. <br />
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What more needs to be said? The ntcc has taken something pure and simple and manipulated it for their own greed and profit. So why do folks ignore the bible and follow these false prophets who pervert the gospel for their own gain? It's called indoctrination and brainwashing. It's all about money and numbers. It's an age old form of spiritual manipulation used by many other religious groups and cults. How convenient to change tithe from agricultural gifts to monetary gifts and bring it over into the New Testament as if they are Levitical Priests and then tell people that they will die and go to hell if they don't pay it. You got to completely shut off your brain to give 10% of your income to these Money Grubbers. </div>
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Not saying that tithe is sound doctrine in any sense, but if you were going to pay it like a weekly bill to someone, it should go to your local huckster and not to the Fat Cats in Graham that are living large. If you were to agree on using tithe as a means to support your local church and there was transparency and accountability, without ultimatums of missing the rapture or spending eternity in the lake of fire, it would still be a ritual; but at least you wouldn't be enabling the fat cats in Graham and you would be able to see where your money was going. The reason there is no transparency is because they don't want you to know where your money is going. The reason they threaten you with hell is because they don't want your tithe dollars to stop rolling in. The reason that they add "holier than thou" doctrines is to keep people busy and occupied so they won't have time or money to do anything else. <br />
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You decide. Is this really what living for Jesus is all about? It's really simple. Did Jesus ever tell the masses that they would die and go to hell if they didn't pay tithe? Why should we listen to anyone else. If you want to be a Christian, do the things that Jesus taught. If it was good enough for the the masses who followed Him, it's good enough for us.<br />
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;-) Jesus loves you.</div>Don and Angehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08130358238099845361noreply@blogger.com63tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8463118149068513544.post-3370281030064669192016-05-29T10:48:00.000-07:002016-05-29T10:48:39.671-07:00Kat's New Blog - Another Post ntcc Success Story!<div class="separator" style="clear: both; text-align: center;">
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Our friend Kat has started a New Blog called: <a href="https://myjourneyanewlife.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">"Finding my way. A journey of weight loss and healing past wounds"</a>. It's amazing what people can do when they are free from the controlling ways of the ntcc. As Kat shares in her blog post, you have to realize that you are worth something. The ntcc keeps people beat down and unappreciated. It's hard to do anything positive for yourself or others when you feel like you are living in bondage. Weight gain is a huge problem in the ntcc. They call out a lot of sins but they encourage gluttony. They will beat you to death over tithe and outward "holiness" standards while they feed you 3,000 calorie meals. <br />
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Food was the only outlet that people were allowed to indulge in this cult and many of us over-ate. Davis was overweight so he couldn't very well preach against gluttony, now could he? Especially since he couldn't remember the last time he sinned. If Davis were to preach against gluttony like he did against women wearing pants or ear rings, or about non tithe paying "God robbers", very few in the ntcc would be saved. There are a lot of overweight people in the ntcc, but worse than that, there are a lot of critical fault finding individuals that will tear you down for your short comings while ignoring their own. This is called hypocrisy.<br />
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Isn't it amazing what people are able to accomplish when they get out of the cult? Why do you suppose there are so many success stories among those who leave? I would say that God has very little to do with the self imposed bondage that people in the ntcc place themselves under. Kat has over come this bondage and she has an amazing story to share.<br />
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We hope that her blog inspires you as it has inspired us. In her blog, Kat shares many things about her past. Her testimony is amazing and we hope we believe it will help others. Kat's life is a journey that is still being written. <div class="blogger-post-footer">Comments have been disabled on this blog.
;-) Jesus loves you.</div>Don and Angehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08130358238099845361noreply@blogger.com10tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8463118149068513544.post-63740301574002519112016-05-22T08:07:00.000-07:002016-05-22T10:42:36.394-07:00Finding FreedomTo truly appreciate freedom a person must experience slavery. Slavery is defined <a href="http://www.thefreedictionary.com/slavery" target="_blank">(link)</a> as the condition in which one person is owned as property by another and is under the owner's control, especially in involuntary servitude. It is also defined as a civil relationship whereby one person has absolute power over another and controls his life, liberty, and fortune.<br />
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In the ntcc we were controlled and others had absolute power over us. While we willingly committed ourselves to this servitude, we were influenced by hucksters and professional con artists that used eternal suffering in the fires of hell as an ultimatum to control our life, liberty and fortunes. These religious crack pots stole our freedom by means of deception. Christianity in its purest form is supposed to set us free; but at some point, just like any other good thing, it has been corrupted by those who want to profit off of it. </div>
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Does anyone remember how it was in the ntcc? We were not free. We were in bondage. We were made to believe that if we left, we were leaving God. Leaving was the only way out. If you stayed you had to commit yourself to their routines and their rules. Their rules were not God's rules. They passed their rules off as God's uncompromising requirements. If you missed a function it was because you didn't love God. If you disobeyed the pastor it was because you didn't love God. If you didn't pay tithe it was because you didn't love God. Leaving the ntcc was considered the ultimate sin. We were slaves to this fraudulent and abusive environment. </div>
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Those who imposed this system of ultimatums upon us, were never held to the same standards as the chattel that served them. There was no accountability in this cult from the leadership to practice what they preached. They wanted everyone to think that they were the oracles of God and that they were beyond reproach. </div>
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Even when people found their way out of this maze of confusion, many remain in bondage unto this day. Even though they have left the cult, they still practice many of the rituals that were instilled into their lives. One of the most egregious ideologies that people retain from the ntcc is that they have no self worth. People think that they are a failure to God, and they beat themselves up over and over again. </div>
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One of the most helpful ways to obtain complete freedom is to remove influences from your life that drag you down. Sometimes people have nothing good to say to you or about you. They have a way of draining the joy out of your life. Have you ever met someone like this? They criticize everything you do and find fault with everything you believe in. Why subject yourself to people like that? We don't have to allow people to manipulate us. This is freedom and it is very liberating to identify the source of manipulation and remove it from your life as much as possible.</div>
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Now we find our freedom in God; yet we know that not everyone is at the point in their lives where they can trust anyone to include God. We believe 2 Cor 3:17: "Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty." There are those who would begrudge us this freedom; but we don't wish to sit down and drink a Dr. Pepper with them. But where ever you are in life you don't have to allow others to drag you into their negative sphere of influence. </div>
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It's important for everyone to realize their self worth. Others may not value you, but I'm pretty sure that you are important enough for God to send his Son to die for you. Now there are some that say that Christianity is slavery; and they will do everything they can to make the case that God wants you to be miserable and legalistic. In many cases people project their feelings and beliefs upon you; because they are the ones with the problems. We don't have anything to sell you. We don't have any desire to force anything on anyone. Forced compliance is opposite of freedom. We think that people make Christianity a form of slavery so they can use it to bring others into submission to them and make a little money to go along with their power trip. </div>
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We recommend freedom. Try it for free. If you don't like it, you can bring it back and allow others to control you again. All you have to do is join a controlling group or listen to a cult leader that tells you how to spend your time and money. If you get tired of that, freedom is still there. The ntcc is like the Federal Government. They think that they can manage your money better than you so they tax you in every way imaginable. They have a tax for every program. </div>
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<b><span style="color: red;">If you love God, you'll give to the building fund.</span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: red;">If you love God, you'll give in an offering to buy things for your master, I mean pastor. (He might need a diamond pinky ring, a Rolex watch or a new Cadillac).</span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: red;">If you love God, you will knock on a hundred doors a week to find more tithe paying suckers to support your master/pastor.</span></b></div>
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<b><span style="color: red;">If you love God, you will give extra money so your master/pastor doesn't have to work on a job even though Paul the Apostle did. Really, Apostles work? Real ones do; but not the self-appointed ones in the ntcc. They don't work. Why should they? They have brainwashed suckers do everything for them.</span></b></div>
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This is bondage. You do it because you think you are being a blessing to the MOG (Man of Gawd), but you are really being played for a sucker. Jesus was a servant of all and he taught His followers that if they wanted to be great in the kingdom of heaven that they should be servants of all.</div>
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Cults and religions require things from people. Narcissists are the same way. They get off on having control over you, or trying to make you feel like you are inferior to them. If you don't hold them in high esteem and play by their rules, they do everything they can to belittle you. If you don't agree with them they call you names and hurl judgments and ultimatums at you. They do this because they are the ones with issues. They have more deeply seated emotional problems than you would ever want to know about. They just choose to use a pitchfork so they can dish them off on you.</div>
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<b><span style="color: red;">Break Every Chain by Jesus Culture</span></b> <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtyVdC7E6Wo" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">on YouTube</a></div>
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The best way to have liberty in your life is to eliminate the influences of people that affect you in a negative way. Don't allow people to zap you of all your energy and positive ideas. Don't let them drain every ounce of goodness and joy out of your lives. Don't give them a platform to hate on you and despise you. People will hate and despise you regardless; but you don't have to entertain them. You don't have to let them into your mind or build a nest on top of your head.</div>
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;-) Jesus loves you.</div>Don and Angehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08130358238099845361noreply@blogger.com11tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8463118149068513544.post-83294709361323394082016-05-08T07:06:00.001-07:002016-05-08T07:06:23.990-07:00What a Church Should Look LikeA short time ago, someone left this comment on our previous blogpost:<br />
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<span style="background-color: black; color: lime;"><b>"I've never thought about what a church should look like in these times. What should they be doing? What should they be achieving?</b></span><br />
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<span style="background-color: black; color: lime;"><b>All I know is that there is a preacher, and a building in todays church model."</b></span><br />
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</dd>This is a very good question. We might not be able to give a 100% accurate answer on what a church should look like in these times, but we can give a 100% accurate answer on what a church should NOT look like according to the bible. <div>
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To answer the question, "What should a church look like" we need to take a look at what the church should not look like. Churches are run by men. It doesn't really matter what you call them: Pastor, Bishop, Elder, Apostle, Father, etc. These titles are used as distinctions between 'mere' members and those who are considered more prominent in the church; but they are titles that are pinned upon them by other men, not God. There were not any super spiritual celebrities gallivanting around with glee clubs ogling over their every word and deed in the early church. The leaders of the true New Testament church were approachable and fellow workers laboring in the work of Christ. Paul referred to himself as "least of all saints". Paul referred to Timothy as a brother and fellow laborer. John referred to himself as "your brother and companion in tribulation. Jesus said: "I call you not servants....but I have called you friends." [John 15:15 <a href="https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/jhn/15/15/s_1012015" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>] What kind of leader is leading your church? Can you imagine going up to Davis and calling him Brother Rodger, or calling Kekel, Brother Mike? They want you to inflate their egos by calling them by the titles that they have chosen unto themselves. <br />
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A good church will be led by a good man. Who do you want to trust to lead you to eternal life? A Huckster? Is a good church supposed to be led by a man that is greedy of filthy lucre?<br />
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<span style="color: blue;">Scriptures: 1 Ti 3:3, 1 Ti 3:8, Tit 1:7, 1 Pe 5:2 (Desktop Computer Users can hover over each of these scripture references and to read the full verse. Mobile Users can see them by clicking <a href="https://www.blueletterbible.org/search/search.cfm?Criteria=Filthy+lucre&t=KJV#s=s_primary_0_1" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">here</a>.)</span><br />
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These scriptures tell you what the leaders of the church should and should not be doing. If the leader of your church or cult is getting rich off the gospel, you might want to follow a different leader. If your 'Pastor' wants you to give him 10% of your money but doesn't want to explain where your money is going, you might want to find another "Pastor". Don't blindly believe or accept that it's going back into the work of the Lord. Ask that huckster where the upper echelon cult leaders got the money to live in mansions and drive expensive luxury and sports cars, tour the country in expensive Recreational Vehicles and go on all expense paid vacations globe-trotting around the world. Turn on your brains and read your bibles if you claim to be a bible believing Christian. It's never too late to escape the cult.<br />
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While you are reading the scripture references listed above, take a look at the other requirements for church leadership: <b>"Not doubletongued"</b>-- What does that mean? Strong's definition:<br />
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If your cult leader says: "I'm not a match maker" and then he has men line up to ask him permission if they can talk with a single woman "on the wall" that is a good example of someone who has a forked, oops, I mean double tongue. <br />
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If your cult leader removes one man from being the pastor of a church because of adultery, but promotes another man after being caught at a whore house, (not to mention all of the adultery the cult leader himself has been guilty of), this is a double standard and that cult leader has a double or forked tongue.<br />
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If your cult leader says: "Don't invite the poor to church, we are not running a soup kitchen" after saying "We are a church of all Nations, Non-denominational and everyone is welcome", He is a money grubber and only wants people that can support the life styles of lazy puppeteers like himself to attend church. <br />
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If your cult leader rails on someone else saying: "He loves a house more than God" while he himself lives in a million dollar mansion with gates all around it and an intercom to screen fleeced flock members from seeking counsel, you might need to find a new church. Are there not enough scriptures in the bible warning you to steer clear of hypocrites?<br />
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If your cult leader 'adopts' a daughter in the Philippines, and then rails against men and women having children because they hinder the work of the Lord, and this causes scores of men to surgically neuter themselves is this not being double tongued?<br />
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If your cult leader charges you money to rent a building that has been paid off for years, while the cult leaders profit off of the financial hardships of your congregation, they are double standard hypocrites and given to usury. If they require your congregation to give money to an escrow fund that is designated for church repairs and improvements, but then tell you to take up an offering to fix the church so they can later zero out that escrow fund with no accountability to the ones who gave the money, you are not even in a church, you are in a cult that is being run by shady business partners who are running a big time scam under the guise of being a non profit holiness religious organization. <br />
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If your new cult leader says, "Those were never rules, just policies." to dismiss the abuse and marginalize those whose lives have been devastated, he is a double tongued, double standard hypocrite and huckster, who is running a big scam and laughing at you all the way to the bank.<br />
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If your cult leader encourages you to get a divorce and drives wedges between families, he is encouraging adultery. Why would he do this? If your cult leader can't even lead his own son to Christ, while lavishing expensive gifts upon him with your tithe dollars, why would you want him teaching you how to raise your kids? This is not a healthy environment to raise children. How many people in your church have divorced, remarried someone else in your church/cult, then divorced again and remarried someone else in your church/cult? Some ntcc'rs have done this <b><u>4 times;</u></b> and that's just the ones we know about. Come on! Are the scales falling from your eyes yet?<br />
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How many of us were cheated out of having families? How many men and women were discouraged from having children? How many were discouraged from seeking higher education? How many were railed against for seeking a career or wanting to own their own home or desiring to be healthy and exercise? How many were preached down to about dressing a certain way? How many men were blasted for wearing jeans, shorts or having facial hair? How many women were belittled and humiliated for wearing ear rings while the congregation was fleeced for money to buy their cult leader a Rolex watch or a diamond pinky ring? <br />
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If you do find a healthy church it will most likely be one whose ministers are servants of all, rather than lords over all. If any money is collected it won't be used to purchase million dollar recreational vehicles, quarter million dollar sports cars, and multi-million dollar real estate ventures.<br />
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What we write might offend many churches because there are many so called churches that exist for the wrong reasons. Is there such a thing as a perfect church? Probably not, but if a group of people get together to worship God and they can do this without some huckster trying to make merchandise of them, then they can be honest and real; but if there is any perfection, it is in Christ. The ntcc and other cults would teach its followers to "Be perfect as Christ is perfect", and us cult members would actually think that perfection was something that we could obtain by our own works. I don't care how hard you try to be perfect, you'll never be perfect. We are all flawed and the only thing perfect about us is the love that God bestows on us.<br />
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<b><span style="color: blue;">In 2 Cor 12:9 Paul said:</span></b> <span style="color: red;">"And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: <b>for my strength is made perfect in weakness.</b> Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me." <i>[<b>bold highlights</b> added by DNA]</i></span><br />
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Now I will tell you straight up that I know that I'm not perfect. My whole life has been like a roller coaster ride and my failures and sins would definitely out-weigh my righteousness if it were not for God's mercy and love. But out of the chaos and all of the ups and downs there has been one constant, and that is God's love; and that love extends to all mankind. If there is any perfection in my heart whatsoever, it comes from God. I am weak; and I struggle all the time. In the midst of the struggle there are times of peace and an assurance that God is love. A broken heart can be made perfect.<br />
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<b><span style="color: blue;">Psa 34:18</span></b> <b><span style="color: red;">The LORD [is] nigh unto them that are of a broken heart; and saveth such as be of a contrite spirit.</span></b></div>
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Life can be a struggle sometimes. No matter what you have or don't have there is a constant war going on in our lives. Throughout time God has always been there when people turn to him. So many times in the Old Testament prophets would share God's mercy with the people. God wanted these people to open their hearts to Him. Even though they had worshiped other gods, God said if they would turn to Him that He would remember their sin no more. That is the way that it has always been with God. If you worship God all your life and than decide to turn your heart away from Him, God will not remember the good. If you have ignored God all of your life and you choose to open your heart to God, He will remember your sin no more. This is the way it is throughout the bible. This is how God deals with people.<br />
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<b><span style="color: blue;">Eze 18:26</span></b> <b><span style="color: red;">When a righteous [man] turneth away from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, and dieth in them; for his iniquity that he hath done shall he die.</span></b><br />
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Now we have the New Testament which replaced the Old Testament when Jesus died and was resurrected. What all of the laws of the Old Testament to include tithe, could not do, the blood of Jesus can do. It's that simple.</div>
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The ntcc cult leaders could be saved if they would acknowledge their own weaknesses and sins, stop oppressing the people of God, turn from their whoredoms and idolatry and stop making merchandise of the people of God. But they refuse to admit any wrong doing. They are narcissistic by nature; and they have set themselves up as idols to be worshiped by their followers.<br />
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There are so many false teachers, false prophets, phony ministers, money making hucksters and lying hood winkers in the church world today it's hard to tell what is real from what is fake. The bible however is pretty clear about it. If you are looking for contradictions in the bible you might find them among scriptures that are taken out of context or not fully understood. You can wrestle with the scriptures and make them out to be controversial; or you can take the things that are plain and simple to be understood for what they actually say. If you want to know what a church should look like, read the New Testament. Most of the ultimatums are attached to rejecting Christ rather than living by rules. Most of the emphasis is placed on loving God, loving your neighbor as yourself and having love one towards another. If you want to strain at gnats and swallow camels you can do that all day long. That's what cults do; and that's what the ntcc does. That's what the atheists and agnostics do. Wash your hands before you eat, don't heal on the Sabbath day, pay tithe, make loud and drawn out public prayers, dress this way or that way.<br />
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We are definitely not experts on where to find a good church but we believe that there will always be a remnant of people who desire to live for God. Many people fall into the trap of thinking they have to follow a man or a program. It would be nice if you can walk into any church in your town and worship God. Try it. Go to each one and ask their pastor what doctrine makes them different from all the other churches in your town or city. They all believe in different doctrines and they all believe that their way is right. You might have a better chance winning a million dollars off of a scratch ticket than you would finding a good church. But if you feel like your salvation depends on following another man make sure you ask questions and demand straight answers. Find out if it's a church or a money making scam. Where does the money go? Are they transparent? Will they show you the books or some type of public record of where the money goes? Or do they get offended and avoid those types of questions. Google your church leaders and find out if there are multitudes of outraged people that have suffered due to their oppression. Find out if there are scandals that they tried to cover up. Who do they reach out to? Those who have the ability to pay tithe or those who don't, or both? Are they respecters of persons? If you find a good church or even a halfway decent church, let us know, we would love to hear all about it. <br />
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<b><span style="color: red;">"Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves."</span></b> <b><span style="color: blue;">Mat 7:15</span></b><br />
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;-) Jesus loves you.</div>Don and Angehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08130358238099845361noreply@blogger.com32tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8463118149068513544.post-45150332956132126502016-04-09T10:31:00.000-07:002016-04-09T10:31:05.692-07:00The Recipe for a CultWhat is a cult? Defined by the Free Dictionary a cult is:<br />
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The first ingredient for a cult is the cult leader. You can't have a cult unless you have a cult leader. The cult leader is always a narcissist who expects others to do what the leader says, while ignoring what the leader does. The narcissistic cult leader believes that they are superior to all of their followers and must be able to convince others that the leader is chosen by God and above all reproach. Successful cult leaders have the ability to make others believe that the leader is God's perfect servant and all doctrine and rules issued forth by the leader come directly from God Himself. The cult leader must have the ability to convince others that the leader is pure and without sin, while causing the followers to blame themselves for any trouble in their lives by focusing on the members' own shortcomings and alleged sins.</div>
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The cult leader must find people that will follow without question and seek the leader's approval. Cult members are often from dysfunctional families and broken homes and seek approval and a place to belong. Unfortunately the prime candidates for Christianity usually have similar backgrounds to cult members. Cult members often start out as sincere Christians or broken souls who are seeking to be free from a life of suffering and misery or loneliness and lack of direction or purpose. While God reaches out to many who are poor, a cult leader instead requires the members to have an income or ability to make money so the cult leader can prosper financially from all of the money and labor of the followers. Cult leaders are often sexual predators who not only seek financial profit but use their position of trust to gratify their sexual fantasies. For this reason many cult members were targeted due to their background of physical and sexual abuse. Abused people are drawn to cults which give them a false sense of being loved. They often don't recognize the cult's abusive practices as abuse, because they are accustomed to poor treatment in their past. Hence cult members are often people that can be easily exploited for money, sex or 'pastor' worship, all due to their past familiarity with abuse and present gullibility.</div>
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In contrast, people who are solidly grounded in a healthy faith do not make good cult members. People who know the bible do not make good cult members. People who are well-off financially do not make good cult members. People who ask too many questions do not make good cult members. People who demand accountability and transparency from the cult leader do not make good cult members. People who think for themselves and speak up against hypocrisy and abuse do not make good cult members. They may be fooled for a while; but as they grow in grace and the knowledge of the truth, they will recognize a cult for what it is.</div>
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A cult leader cannot control his/her cult members without cult doctrine. Cult doctrine is the mortar that holds all the bricks together in a cult. A successful cult leader introduces false doctrines supported by twisted scriptures to control and manipulate cult members. Cult members have to believe that cult doctrine comes from God. Cult indoctrination often involves total trust and confidence that the cult leader is God's chosen vessel to share God's special plan with the members. God's special plan is always based on the cult member sacrificing and the cult leader profiting. The cult member pays tithe or gives in offerings while the cult leader receives tithes and collects offerings. Cult doctrine or God's special plan for the cult members' lives is only made possible if they are ignorant of what the bible actually says or if they quench the Spirit. Cult members are taught not to use the part of their brain that questions their cult leaders or rationalizes that they are part of a big scam. They are indoctrinated to believe that any thought or person who questions the cult doctrine or leader is "of the devil". This phrase, "of the devil" is mind-stopping lingo designed to halt independent thought. It is cult jargon at its worst. </div>
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Often times cult members are brainwashed with cult jargon. Cult jargon often consists of one line phrases that are not found in the bible but are believed by cult members as gospel. Here is a list of cult jargon that was often used in the ntcc.</div>
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<li><i><span style="color: red;">You just need to get saved. (often used when one doesn't conform)</span></i></li>
<li><i><span style="color: red;">All Christians pay tithe and give in offerings.</span></i></li>
<li><i><span style="color: red;">X-cult members are just bitter and need to move on.</span></i></li>
<li><i><span style="color: red;">I can't remember the last time I sinned. (a big lie)</span></i></li>
<li><i><span style="color: red;">You can't build a church with poor people. (or non tithe payers)</span></i></li>
<li><i><span style="color: red;">If you do not pay 10% tithe before taxes or if you are late with your tithe you will be too heavy to go in the rapture.</span></i></li>
<li><i><span style="color: red;">Children hinder the work of the Lord.</span></i></li>
<li><i><span style="color: red;">If you steal a paper clip from the Army you will be one paperclip too heavy to go in the rapture.</span></i></li>
<li><i><span style="color: red;">cats are of the devil</span></i></li>
<li><i><span style="color: red;">Children must be beaten to drive the devil out of them</span></i></li>
<li><i><span style="color: red;">Television is the devil vision</span></i></li>
<li><i><span style="color: red;">Internet is the Sinner net</span></i></li>
<li><i><span style="color: red;">ear rings are devil stirrups</span></i></li>
<li><i><span style="color: red;">If you don't pay tithe, you are a God-robber.</span></i></li>
<li><i><span style="color: red;">Pastor is the Man of God (and must be obeyed without question)</span></i></li>
<li><i><span style="color: red;">White men who marry black women have low self esteem</span></i></li>
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Cults often have compounds that are fenced in. Gates and security cameras are often placed around the homes of the cult leaders and access is only granted by permission to a select few. Unusual rules and demands are placed on cult members who live in cult compounds. Permission is often required to be asked among cult members to do ordinary things that most people do without asking. Decisions that most Christians are trusted to make on their own require approval from cult leaders who have very little trust in their followers. Sometimes cult compounds use strict rules rather than fences to keep people in. Servicemen's Homes are cult compounds that require all occupants to attend every church function, pay tithes and home offerings, have no visitors unless approved by the pastor, obtain permission to come and go for extended periods of time and be an "example of the believer" by keeping a bunch of non biblical man-made rules.</div>
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A requirement of faithful cult members to attend every cult function also can make a civilian church feel like a cult compound because most of the cult members waking hours are spent fulfilling the requirement to be at every cult meeting and only spend time with other cult members. Permission is asked for just about everything in a cult member's life, creating invisible boundaries that should not exist. Dating is not permitted without permission from the local cult leader and many relationships are manipulated or destroyed by the cult leader to maintain control inside the cult collective. Everything a cult member does is scrutinized by the cult leader and ultimatums of eternal damnation are placed upon the lives of cult members to keep them in the compound or cult community. </div>
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How do you avoid a cult? Simple question and simple answer. Read your bible. Do you ever see Jesus telling people who they can date or encouraging folks to follow a rich huckster that lives in a gated community? Of course you don't. Once you know the Word, it becomes easy to avoid cults.</div>
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But what if you didn't know the Word and you joined a cult? The problem is that cult members don't like anyone telling them anything that destroys their fantasy world. Brainwashing involves people abandoning all common sense in pursuit of a religion that makes them feel special and chosen while excluding all who recognize the cult leader's diabolical motives. Expecting a cult member to filter out cult doctrine from the bible is like expecting a poisonous snake to allow you to pet his forked tongue without getting bit. Many of us were there at one time. We all thought critically of everyone who didn't fall lockstep into our way of life. We labelled it Christianity and, in our minds, those who didn't comply were all destined for hell. We didn't want anyone to interfere with our religion; and we definitely didn't want to believe we were in a cult. Eventually after being used and abused for an extended period of time, we opted out.</div>
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Successful cults will make people think that if they leave the cult, they are leaving God. Therefore those who leave tend to blame themselves for everything while they exonerate the cult leader and cult followers of any wrong doing. But reading the Bible will show that the opposite is true. It is most often the person who leaves the cult who has the pulse of God, while those who stay in the cult are following a false prophet.</div>
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Leaving the cult is not leaving God. It's freeing yourself from the handwriting of man-made ordinances that is against you. The cult leaders in the ntcc know what they are doing; and they want you to go along with their doctrine for the rest of your life, whether you leave or you stay. They definitely do not want you to share your knowledge with the brainwashed masses that remain in bondage. They want you to hate anyone who exposes them even if you no longer attend their cult meetings or support them with your tithes and offerings. That's what makes it a cult; and even if you leave them they expect you to keep their doctrine as if it came from God Himself. But gave us our salvation. He is not going to take it away. Our salvation does not depend on the name hanging over the cult compound. God gave salvation to us, and man cannot take that away from us, even if we leave their money-grubbing cult!</div>
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This is the recipe for a cult. All you need is a Huckster, some followers, some messed up doctrine supported by non biblical jargon and a cult community that keeps you in their controlling atmosphere where you can be manipulated and exploited. They will always be looking for new recruits to replace those whom they no longer need; but they would prefer for you to keep your brain switch in the "Off" position for the rest of your life and don't dare say anything against them or hell will be your home, according to them. Thank God that Jesus is not like them! </div>
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The Mars Hill church, which is said to have about 13,000 members in various churches, receives about $300,000.00 per month for World Missions which they call Global Missions; but church members claim that only 5% of their donations actually went to the work that it was supposed to go towards. If these allegations are found to be true, this religious huckster will have embezzled perhaps millions of dollars from good hearted people who thought they were giving to the work of the Lord. Sound familiar?<br />
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The ntcc has taken up millions of dollars in World Missions pledges throughout the years; but where has the money all gone? If you look at the actual assets that the ntcc owns over seas or listen to the testimonies of those who have suffered financial hardships in foreign countries there is no accounting for all the money the ntcc has received. There is much more money tied up in the Kekel and Davis personal estates than you will find in any overseas outreach that the ntcc claims to be involved in. Did you know that Servicemen's Homes overseas receive no money from the ntcc coffers? The G.I.s and local ministers are expected to foot all the bills, even if it means having the local pastor's wife work on a job. Davis used to call that "prostituting that woman" while Olson would schmooze the local pastor by saying, "Sometimes in the work of the Lord certain things are necessary." In other words, the ntcc was talking out of both sides of their mouths!<br />
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We wonder if anyone in the ntcc cares about where their World Missions dollars have all gone? We wonder if God has any good stewards that are willing to confront the talking heads in Graham, and ask them to account for the money they have received over the years. Most likely there is nobody in the ntcc that has a spine or the stomach to demand true and complete financial transparency. The ntcc should be hauled into court just like Driscoll and forced to give an account for what they have done with the money that was given to them over the years. God had Samuel confront Saul when he disobeyed the commandments of the Lord. God had the prophet Nathan confront King David when he committed adultery and murder. God's always had prophets that would keep the Rulers and spiritual leaders honest throughout the Old Testament and confront them when they did evil. Is there anyone that has any God in the ntcc that will demand transparency from the ntcc Board Members? Of course there isn't. There never has been; because the ntcc rules them with an iron fist; and ntcc members are spiritually whipped and humiliated when they question their masters. They are like helpless dogs that are so afraid of getting beaten by their human owners that they cower down at the very sight of them. Sorry if this offends anyone but it's true. Davis, Kekel, Olson and Ashmore were all greatly feared in the ntcc and very seldom were their motives ever questioned. To this day we are not aware of anyone who is or was a current member, confronting Kekel or Davis about where Tithe or World Missions money actually went, nor have we heard anyone state that they asked to see any financial accounting. Ashmore was asked by an Ex-minister to explain his knowledge of ntcc's financial dealings after he left the ntcc, but he played stupid and took everyone for a bunch of fools, telling them that he was unaware of any of the financial impropriety that was taking place in the ntcc.<br />
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The above video was taken from a miniseries called "The Assets" which was about the American traitor Aldrich Ames who sold information to undercover Russian agents that got many of our spies killed. It was the structured deposits under $10,000.00 that gave the judge enough evidence to tap his phone lines which led to the arrest and conviction of Ames. He is now serving a life sentence without the possibility of parole in a high security federal penitentiary. It's almost always the money that leads to the arrest of high profile criminals. They didn't have enough evidence on Al Capone to arrest him so they indicted him on Tax Fraud. The ntcc might get away with a lot of crimes, but if they ever get caught it will most likely be something like illegal structuring or tax evasion. <br />
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We care about all the money that we wasted while we were in twenty years ago; but unfortunately we were just as brainwashed as some of you still are while we were in the ntcc. We blindly trusted in the ntcc leadership to use our money for the work of God. We hope that someone in the ntcc will see this video and realize that they have both a right and a duty to know where their money is going.<br />
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Please don't get offended at the title. If it makes you feel better, you can think of me as the dummy, because for so many years I was a big dummy in the ntcc. It took a lot to figure out what was really going on. I left the ntcc twenty years ago in 1996 and didn't really figure out that it was a cult until 2010. I was as brainwashed as a person could possibly be. They did a number on me. Man, was I ever messed up. My mind was completely full of mush and I believed everything I was told without really checking the facts. But looking back, I wasn't the Lone Ranger. We all drank the Kook-Aid and we all paid a price that we didn't have to pay. The same can be said for so many people that got themselves involved in cults. <br />
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There are a lot of churches and every one of them has their own doctrine. Each one believes that they are right. So how is a Christian supposed to navigate through the maze of religion? Your best chance is to ignore all of the churches and go to the source of our salvation which is Jesus and the words that He spoke. You pretty much have to believe the bible to be a Christian. There are many who will dispute that; but we wouldn't even know about Christ if it were not for the bible. There are many things in the bible that can be argued; and there are many who will twist the scriptures for their own advantage and unfortunately the ultimate goal for these people is money. You can tell the importance of doctrine in many churches by how much they emphasize individual topics.<br />
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The ntcc emphasizes tithe more than any other topic in the bible, and that is why we remind people of that fact so frequently. Everything that has to do with your Christianity in ntcc hinges on whether or not you pay tithe. If you don't pay tithe, you will never be welcomed or be allowed to feel comfortable in a New Testament Christian Church. You can not go to their Seminary if you do not pay your tithe. You will never be in any kind of leadership role if you do not pay your tithe. <b> <span style="background-color: black; color: yellow;">In the ntcc your Christianity is measured first and foremost by your tithing record.</span></b> Is this biblical? Of course not. The Author of our salvation never told one person that tithing was necessary for a person to be saved. <br />
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The best advice that we could possibly give a person to help them sort all of this out, is to just keep it as simple as possible. For instance, we know that to be saved we have to confess our sins to God, not man, and ask forgiveness. If you confess with your mouth, The Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised him from the dead, you will be saved. This is so simple and easy, that most people think there has to be more to it. Getting saved is the easy part; but what about staying saved? This is where people make it difficult. This is where people have added false doctrines and rules that make your Christian life miserable. This is where the ntcc went overboard and created a system that goes beyond what God requires. If you look at their broken system you will have a better understanding why they have struggled to keep good people around for so many years. After almost 50 years of straining at gnats and swallowing camels, you can see that the ntcc gospel is not working the way that the gospel of Christ worked in the early church. They couldn't even keep Ashmore around after Davis died. What do they have left? Just Kekel and Olson. The rest are getting older and more stale as the years go by.<br />
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Why should ntcc have to add a bunch of rules to Christianity to make it palatable for the new Christian? It's no wonder why people leave the ntcc in such large numbers. They get a person genuinely saved; and then the first thing they teach the new Christian is to pay tithe. Then they tell them how to dress. Pretty soon they are telling them who they can talk to, who they can date, who they can visit, who their children can have over to their houses for birthday parties, what they can do with their spare time, what they can't do, who they can't be around, who they can't listen to and so on. Christianity is so simple a fifth grader can understand it. Kids are smarter than they get credit for. Unfortunately a lot of parents manipulate their kids and influence their beliefs at an early age. The ntcc taught that kids were a hindrance to the work of God. We can imagine how that must have made a lot of kids feel in the ntcc. Their parents probably regretted having them; and then they were blasted by Davis and made to feel that they were the reason that souls in their parents ministries were dying and going to hell. What a heavy burden for children to bear! But really, lets get back to the basics so that people can understand how simple it is. Love God and love your neighbor as yourself. How hard can that possibly be?<br />
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If you are struggling with all the junk you were taught in the ntcc, and you don't understand how you can possibly be a Christian, or if coming back to God seems like a daunting task or decision that you will never be able to make, please don't feel like you are alone on an island by yourself. I was there for 14 years. I allowed these ntcc thugs to convince me that if I left their church, I would be lost forever. That couldn't be further from the truth. God never stopped loving me, and He'll never stop loving you. They can corrupt your mind, your attitude and your testimony, but they can't stop God from loving you. You have to believe that God still cares about you before this barrier can be broken down. That was a revelation to me. I was so convinced that I had used up all of God's grace and I blamed myself for every inexplicable thing that ever happened in my life that I thought my situation was hopeless. But that's not how God saw the situation or me. God is love. So it's all about love, people. It's not about what you wear. It's not about eating your food with your fingers or a fork. It's not about wearing a white shirt, a paisley tie and a pair of wing tips. It's not about knocking on thousands of doors to try to find someone as gullible as you that will keep a bunch of man made rules and subject themselves and their families to cult doctrine. It's not about love bombing people and feeding them "free meals" to get their tithe. It all comes down to something far more personal that nobody has a right to question and that is your personal relationship and love for the One who first loved you and died for you.<br />
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Does this mean that everything is going to be peaches and cream? Nope it doesn't. That's where faith comes into play. You can't see God; but you believe that He's real; and you do your best to live for Him. That's all you can do. It might not be good enough for Davis or Kekel; but when you have done the best you can do, what more can be asked of you? We all fall short; and anyone who tells you that they can't remember the last time they sinned is lying to you. If we get knocked down, we get back up again. That's faith. None of what I'm saying is ground breaking or earth shattering. Christians have been living by faith since Jesus died. If anyone tries to convince you that there is any other way to live for God other than faith and love, don't be so quick to jump on their bandwagon. We really want people to succeed in Christianity; but your salvation is yours. It's a gift from God; and it's a wonderful gift. Nobody can take it away from you. Nobody can stop God from loving you. They can only get into your head and make you think that God doesn't care about you any more. They can only make you think that you are without hope. Why would anyone want to do that? Who would want that? satan.<br />
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You can call me a dummy when it comes to Christianity. I make my share of mistakes. I definitely don't have to go back that far to remember the last time I sinned. I'll take the dumbed down version any day over the confusing double standard version that the ntcc teaches. It's no wonder people are totally confused and perplexed about God. Keep it simple like Christ did. <br />
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"And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him in the midst of them, And said, Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven." Mat 18:2-3<br />
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You don't have to be a bible scholar or a rocket scientist to be a Christian. <br />
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"God chose the foolish things of this world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;"<br />
1 Cor 1:27<br />
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Who are the ones who God calls?<br />
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"For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:" 1 Cor 1:26<br />
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Do you think God intended for Christianity to be difficult? We don't. We think that people make it difficult. If people are making it difficult for you, perhaps you need to cut them out of your life so they can no longer interfere with your relationship with God. They are either for you or against you and if they are making it more difficult for you to live for God, it's not worth having them in your life. <br />
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<b><span style="color: orange; font-family: "trebuchet ms" , sans-serif; font-size: x-large;">The ntcc Taught This in a Class Without Giving Credit to the Author. The Daughter of E.W. Kenyon Sued Kenneth Hagin for Plagiarism and Hagin Settled out of Court for an Undisclosed Amount of Cash. Surely The Family of Kenyon Could Have a Case Against the ntcc Hucksters if They were made Aware of their Plagiarism.</span></b></div>
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Bryan Hill recently sent us some bible school notes on a class that Davis taught called Realities of a New Creation. This Doctrine originated from one E.W. Kenyon who had a book entitled: New Creation Realities who was never given credit for his writings by R. W. Davis. This doctrine is now referred to by many as the JDS or Jesus died spiritually heresy. Our purpose is not to get into a lengthy argument over doctrine, but to shed some light on some of the roots of what Davis taught. <br />
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First of all, let's take a look at E.W. Kenyon who is considered to be the Originator of the Word of Faith movement. E. W. Kenyon was originally a Methodist who back slid, or had a crisis in faith, and later became a Methodist minister and later became a Pentecostal minister. Kenyon's principal disciple was Kenneth Hagin, Sr. who is the 'recognized' father of the Word of Faith movement. Hagin's principal disciple was Kenneth Copeland who is recognized as the 'unofficial leader' of the Word of Faith movement. <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_of_Faith#Historical_Origins" target="_blank">wiki</a><br />
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Proponents of the doctrine include Oral Roberts, Kenneth & Gloria Copeland, <a href="http://www.theopedia.com/Kenneth_Hagin">Kenneth Hagin</a>, Jerry Savelle, Charles Capps, Bill Winston, Creflo Dollar, Charles Nieman, Hobart Freeman, <a href="http://www.theopedia.com/Benny_Hinn">Benny Hinn</a>, <a href="http://www.theopedia.com/Joel_Osteen">Joel Osteen</a>, <a href="http://www.theopedia.com/Joyce_Meyer">Joyce Meyer</a>, <a href="http://www.theopedia.com/index.php?title=T.D._Jakes&action=edit&redlink=1">T.D. Jakes</a>, and Marilyn Hickey, among others. <a href="http://www.theopedia.com/word-of-faith" target="_blank">Theopidia</a><br />
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If you look at the people who are idolized among ntcc'rs and many X-ers you will find quotes from these prosperity preachers on their Facebook walls and their Twitter feeds. Tanya Kekel loves to Quote Joel Osteen all the time among other prosperity preachers. These preachers have all made themselves filthy rich off of the tithe and offerings of their followers. Mike Kekel and "Jim" (James Ross) Ashmore are prosperity preachers and they learned their Doctrine in the Realities of a New Creation class that R.W. Davis plagiarized from E.W. Kenyon.<br />
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Kenneth Copeland is the richest preacher in America and has a net worth of over 700 million dollars. Copeland is said to be 7x richer than any other preacher in America. Kekel's 7x hotter campaign during the ntcc's last convention, should have been labeled 7x richer because that is the goal of Kekel, to get richer and richer. Kekel is using your fear of hell to generate wealth. The JDS doctrine is all about healing and prosperity. In this class Davis taught that you don't need health insurance because you have health assurance, yet how many preachers have died in poverty in the ntcc, leaving little of nothing to their families. Davis received the best hospital care money could buy before he died and don't think that Hasty, Briggs, Ramirez or any other preacher hasn't been to the doctor or emergency room to receive treatment for injuries or sicknesses. The reason they don't want you to buy health insurance is because that is money that you could be giving to them and if you pay for health insurance or life insurance you will be less able to make them rich.<br />
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The Jesus died Spiritually doctrine teaches that Jesus literally died spiritually and that Jesus went to hell as part of the atonement for sins. Many doctrines that the ntcc teaches are based on supposition, rather than facts. Jesus said: "It is finished" John 19:30. The atonement for our sins was finished when Jesus died on the cross. While on the cross, Jesus said, "This day shalt thou be with me in Paradise". The ntcc teaches that this is a question rather than a statement, but either way it suggests that on that very day Christ went to Paradise or Abraham's bosom where he led captivity captive. This is not the same place as Hell. But where does the bible actually say that Jesus went to hell to suffer for our sins? To find this answer you will need to purchase a copy of E.W. Kenyon's book, New Creation Realities, because you will not find it in the bible, unless you do some serious scripture twisting and gymnastics. This JDS doctrine also suggests that Jesus was born again in hell which would imply that Jesus needed salvation.<br />
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This whole doctrine was something that just sprung up during Kenyon's ministry kind of like the holiness movement which all of the sudden became popular some 18 to 19 hundred years after Jesus died on the cross but was never mentioned as a mandate during all the years leading up to this point in time. In spite of all the supposition surrounding this doctrine, it remains a lot like tithe doctrine. There is just no New Testament scripture that actually states that Jesus went to hell. They like to use Acts 2:27: "Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption." This they call a prophetic quote from David, but even this scripture does not say that Jesus went to hell. <br />
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So why is this doctrine so important that Davis made a special class to indoctrinate his brainwashed minions with this teaching? You need not look any further than prosperity teachings of this doctrines chief supporters. There is another R.W. that preached this doctrine whose name was R.W. Schambach and his life and death mirrored that of R.W. Davis. He lived from 1926 to 2012 dying at 85, while RWD lived from 1929 to 2014 also dying at 85. Two R-dubs that both preached a lot of the same stuff. If you listen to R.W. <a href="http://schambach%20on%20youtube/" target="_blank">Schambach on Youtube</a> (bride of Chuckie impersonation), he sounds a lot like RWD only his voice is higher pitched. They both like to scream and point their fingers at people.<br />
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All of the Hucksters that preach this doctrine sound alike and they do it all for money. They preach divine healing but many of them have medical problems which need attention from a medical doctor. R.W. Schambach had a quadruple bypass procedure. Kenneth Copeland has an onsite Medical Clinic for his employees. Kenneth Hagin who also was a plagiarizer was allegedly on heart medication most of his life and his wife was treated for cancer for several years. Hagin was also sued by Kenyon's daughter for plagiarizing Kenyons material and settled out of court. All of these Word of Faith Hucksters are so much like Davis that it's unbelievable. They love to plagiarize. They preach that if you give your money to them, God will prosper you. They all live in mansions and make huge profits off of the gospel. They preach that if a believer is not healed it is due to his lack of faith. Timothy who was sick frequently wasn't told by Paul to rebuke the devil or claim a healing, but rather he was told: "Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities." 1 Tim 5:23. So I guess Paul didn't have as much faith as some of these false teachers. Paul left Trophimus sick at Miletum, 2 Tim 4:20.<br />
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Here are some bible school notes that were inspired by Kenyon's work and plagairized and taught in RWD's Realities of a New Creation class:<br />
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<i><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times" , "times new roman" , serif; font-size: large;"><b>His soul was in hell to deliver our soul.</b></span></i><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times" , "times new roman" , serif;"><b>Anytime one asks the question, "I don't know if I'm saved or not", they are not saved. If they question, "They are not healed", then they do not have the baptism of the Holy Ghost." Most people know what sin is and we will strain it out of our life. If not we call God and his word a liar.</b></span></i></span><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times" , "times new roman" , serif;"><b>When death slew him, in reality, death slew itself. Death was killing itself.</b></span></i></span><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times" , "times new roman" , serif;"><b>HE BECAME ONE WITH SATAN THAT WE MAY BECOME ONE WITH GOD.</b></span></i></span><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times" , "times new roman" , serif;"><b>He became one with physical and spiritual death and sickness.</b></span></i></span><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times" , "times new roman" , serif;"><b>When he became sin on the cross, he became mortal, then he was subjected to death and the devil. His body went to the grave but his soul went to hell. If I don't except the fact that he went to hell, someone has to go to hell.</b></span></i></span><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times" , "times new roman" , serif;"><b>He was the one that did all that was conquered and was made one with the devil.</b></span></i></span><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times" , "times new roman" , serif;"><b>He did not pay the price for mankind. He did not pay the price for souls. He has to go to hell and suffer for mankind.</b></span></i></span><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times" , "times new roman" , serif;"><b>He became the absolute monarchy of the universe and the master of the underworld.</b></span></i></span><br />
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<i><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times" , "times new roman" , serif;"><b>Do you believe that he was justified and declared sinless? I do. If you do not believe that, you can not be saved.</b></span></i></span><br />
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So where is all of this doctrine found in the bible? Can anyone show us? It can be found in Kenyon's book called New Creation Realities which Davis plagiarized so bible school students could sit in awe and think that they were being let in on a secret that God hid from the rest of His believers for centuries. In R-dub's Realities of a New Creation class, this is how Davis justifies this new doctrine that he is introducing to his his bible students at the brain washing academy:<br />
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<b><i><span style="color: blue; font-size: large;">This is the first time I taught this class since 1969. When I got back from the Philippines the Charismatics started up. God dealt with me and I felt the need for real character in our lives. Pride is a preacher killer. Pride is a preacher's wife killer. Just get lifted up a little, it will destroy people. This is the reason why I did not teach the class. There has to be real character before you can be taught the foundation. If the Holy Ghost and God tells me that any of you are getting lifted up, I will quit. I would say that most of you don't know this material. Most of you don't know the Word of God. I will prove it in a little while. We must know the Word of God. There is a reason for this. Jesus is not begotten naturally. There is a lot of the Word of God that we do not know.</span></i></b><br />
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Here we have Davis in a classic brain washing beat down; telling people that they don't know the bible and implying that if they disagree with him, they are being lifted up in pride. He knew this doctrine was a farce when he presented it to his followers. "If the Holy Ghost and God tells me that any of you are getting lifted up, I will quit." First of all, I doubt if God is going to speak to the hardened heart of Davis, and if God did, Davis wouldn't listen. Has anyone ever known Davis to repent of any of his deeds? He said he would prove it in a little while, but there is no proof because it never existed. Can you see all the bible school students with their mouths open in fascination and awe as they idolized Davis for letting them in on this mystery? The proof never came because it never existed. That would be just like Davis saying, "I'm going to prove tithe is biblical and then reading 1 Cor 16:2 which has nothing to do with tithe". Davis was a scam artist, plain and simple. You might praise Davis and hold him in high regard but Jesus calls people like Davis "Vipers, False teachers, Whited Sepulchers" and so on.<br />
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These notes were not taken by Bryan Hill. Bryan has his own notes but he also got a copy from Mathew Webster just in case nobody believed him. If you think that these notes are something that we just made up, we have a copy of them on file and we can publish them in their entirety. I'm sure the ntcc would not appreciate the fact that Mathew Webster allowed another person to copy their bible school notes. Perhaps they will reprimand this brother for doing so, but that might be a good thing if he got jacked up by Kekel and Olson. Maybe they would leave the borg and take their congregation with them. Maybe Matt Webster will read this blog post and realize how outlandish Davis was and He and his wife Cindy will leave.<br />
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We are not publishing this to get into a doctrinal argument with anyone. We are just sharing these plagiarized notes so that people can make up their own minds. We also have a bunch of notes that Bryan sent to us of actual scriptures that refute this doctrine. In our opinion this entire doctrine is about generating more income for the ntcc elite class of super spiritual board members of whom Kekel is chief. Follow the money trail. Follow the doctrine. All that they observe and preach, that do, but do not according to their works for they preach one thing and do another. They compel you to live one way while they live another way. They expect you to follow them but they are not following Christ. They have their own false doctrine and they expect you to believe that it came from God. They are nothing more than a bunch of religious con artists and they will take you for a ride if you let them.<div class="blogger-post-footer">Comments have been disabled on this blog.
;-) Jesus loves you.</div>Don and Angehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08130358238099845361noreply@blogger.com148tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8463118149068513544.post-69543549009008326642016-02-01T08:12:00.000-08:002016-02-01T08:12:25.184-08:00Leave And Take Your Congregation With You - Who Left NTCC<b><span style="color: red;">The Freemans Did It. Is Gene Pellicia Gone?</span></b><br />
Recently we've received good news. Someone mentioned on Chief's blog that the <a href="http://truestoriesoflifeinthentcc.blogspot.com/2010/05/bible-clearly-shows-that-church-should.html?showComment=1447345505194#c1747070591972168591" target="_blank">Freeman's had left the ntcc</a>; and more recently it was shared that <a href="http://ntccxerblog.blogspot.com/2016/01/strange-doctrine-strange-wives-strange.html?showComment=1453840147785#c2162877183684859938" target="_blank">Gene Pellicia</a> had also left the ntcc; where he had been an instructor at the seminary. We received an e-mail the other day from Gary Freeman that stated he had indeed left the ntcc back in September of last year; and that he took his wife and congregation with him! **Woot! Woot!** Normally we wouldn't do a blog post over someone leaving ntcc; but we have found that it is becoming more and more common for ministers in the ntcc to leave with their families in tact and now they are even taking their congregations with them! Why shouldn't they? They get sent to remote places like Cheyenne, WY and spend so much of their own time, energy, and money winning souls and pioneering a work for God. Why should they leave their congregations to the ntcc vultures who are only interested in their tithe and offerings? <br />
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We think that it's great that Bro. Freeman didn't allow the ntcc to swoop in and harvest the fruit of their labor; which the ntcc has given little or no financial or spiritual investment toward supporting. Oh, sure they probably came by once in a blue moon in a Recreation Vehicle and preached some "feel good" sermons; but they didn't do it for free. They weren't there to support you. They were just there to check the books and make sure the money was all going to Graham or to an escrow account they control. They probably even scarfed up the offerings for the nights that they were there. Nothing is ever free in the ntcc. The only freeloaders that can be found in the ntcc are mostly in Graham, Washington. H E L L O !<br />
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<b><span style="color: red;">Who's Out?</span></b><br />
Not sure how many others have taken their congregations with them when leaving ntcc; but most are lucky to get out with only the clothes on their backs. Even that is better than staying in a controlling cult! When Denis left, he not only took his congregation, but he also took other congregants and ministers with him. And ntcc alledges Denis took money and property too. In other words, Denis beat Davis at his own game by defying him and the ntcc in a way that led to Davis' so-called 'retirement', and struck a serious blow to the ntcc's treasure chest; which, up until that point, seemed to be untouchable. When Barnes left he took a very large congregation with him; but it was his group of people that he labored to reach. This also was a huge blow to the ntcc. A lot of tithe dollars stopped rolling in when Barnes departed with his church. Then Ashmore moved into his inheritance in San Diego and left ntcc while taking his large group of followers with him. Again, the ntcc lost a lot of money. And Ashmore continues to draw people away from the ntcc and has also created a vacuum that seems to have been successfully sucking in lots of X-ers.<br />
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We're not sure what size Freeman's church was, but even if it was not as big as some of the above mentioned churches, it is every bit as impactful; because now the 'common' ministers in the ntcc are leaving with their converts and their church members. This is encouraging news; because now all the ntcc ministers who read this blog, (even though they aren't supposed to) are being shown an example that the average mistreated ntcc minister can follow if they want to lead their group of people that they have won to God, out of the bondage of ntcc false doctrine.<br />
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We are blogging about this; because we feel that many ministers in the ntcc feel trapped. Most are financially strapped and probably feel that leaving the ntcc with their group would be a difficult task at best. Nothing is easy in the ntcc. You can do this if you plan it out and exercise your right to be free from this scandal ridden organization. Many before you have left with nothing; and their sheperdless congregations have been taken over by the ntcc vultures; who often swoop in with an iron fist and lay down the law in an unmerciful way. "Get right; or get left!" is what your congregation will be told by some ntcc abusive-jerk hireling who didn't labor for the people that he will run off. People are taken advantage of; and the weak are often kicked to the curb in the ntcc. We've seen it so many times. Every time a new pastor came into town people would leave. The new minister would have to show their so-called superiority and demand respect. This would turn people off; and they would leave. <br />
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<b><span style="color: red;">How To Do It</span></b><br />
There are a few ways to go about leaving with your church in tact. First of all you have to realize that your church members are part of the body of Christ. Who does the church belong to? It's not a building. The church is the body of believers. Who are the people who make up your church? Are they not a part of the body of Christ? Why should the ntcc lay claim to the people that you have labored so hard for so long to win to Christ? Why should you be sending their hard earned money to Graham so that the likes of the Kekels can live like the Pompous Hollywood Elite? The ntcc leadership spends your money on their own creature comforts while you struggle to pay the bills on the church building. That is backwards; the Apostle Paul said:<br />
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<b><i><span style="color: red; font-family: "trebuchet ms" , sans-serif; font-size: large;">"for the children ought not to lay up for the parents, but the parents for the children." 2 cor 12:14</span></i></b><br />
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<br />Paul was speaking about not being burdensome to the Corinthian church. It is the opposite in the ntcc. A generous cut of your tithe dollars and your offerings go to the ntcc 'royalty'. The ntcc is nothing but burdensome to your church and your members. They only come when you pay them. They reap all of the financial benefits, while they force their false doctrines down your throats. What would happen if you stopped paying them your tithe and offerings? They would shut down your church building and confiscate everything they could from you. This is how they roll. They<i> say</i> "it's all about souls;" but if you don't pay them, they will shut you down; and they don't care how many souls they destroy in the process! So guess what? It's not all about the souls. It's all about the dollars!<br />
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<b><span style="color: red;">L.C. Barnes Did It.</span></b><br />
We're not experts on the subject of leaving the ntcc with a congregation of people, but we will say that one of the biggest obstacles to a successful exodus would involve having enough money to make the transition to a different building not controlled by ntcc. Many ntcc ministers have been taught to become "full time" ministers. What does that really mean? What do full time ministers in the ntcc actually do with their time? I know that they will say that full time ministry frees them up to pray and study for messages and properly orchestrate the administrative, spiritual and official activities of their office as a bishop. If that is your position, the first thing you need to do is come down off of your high horse. I'm just saying that I had at least 10 full time ministers and none of them were all out prayer warriors or administers. They chose to spend their time micro managing the lives of their church members. The one that prayed the most was L.C. Barnes; and he was full time military at the time and built a bigger congregation in a shorter period of time than any others that I had been around! I believe that the ntcc eventually influenced him to do things that went against his own personal convictions; but because he was a praying man, he left the organization when God moved him to do so. Unfortunately some of the reports we got from others who witnessed his ministry in the latter part of his tenure with the ntcc revealed that he was very much into the money and was abusive towards people who attended his church. This is not in character with the Rev. Barnes that I knew and respected. I would like to think that getting away from the cult has helped him and that he prayed his way out and made some changes for the better. The truth is, I don't know. I called him at the phone number listed on the church locator and left him a message, but he never got back with me. Saying all of this, who am I to be critical of him? When I knew him, he was the real deal; and I believe that God was very real in his life. The ntcc's example of abuse and money grubbing has a way of corrupting folks; and I only hope that any damage done to L.C. Barnes was reparable; and that he has done what God would have him to do concerning his ministry. <br />
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<b><span style="color: red;">Denis Did It. Ashmore Did It.</span></b><br />
You will most likely need money and a job if you wish to leave the ntcc with your church members. In reality it shouldn't take a whole lot of money. You can have church in an apartment and God can be just as real as He is in a fancy church edifice. If you wish to have a building to have services in that is separate from your living space than you will need some money. Getting a job is not a sin. Chances are that most full time ministers are putting an unnecessary financial strain on their congregations. Paul didn't want to be a burden to his churches so he worked for a living as a tent maker. If you insist on staying full time and leaving with your congregation then chances are you will have to hit them up for the cash to do so. Hopefully you are not just wanting to jump ship to start your own cult full of the same false doctrines and controls taught by ntcc. We believe strongly that Denis and Ashmore have done exactly this. There seems to be no remorse. Alledgedly Denis runs an even more controlling cult than Davis ran. Ashmore denies having any knowledge of the financial iniquities that he was involved in with ntcc. He also will not address any of the allegations from people who have claimed that he abused them; nor will he apologize to anyone. He leaves the ntcc after 40 years of abusing people and all of the sudden he calls the ntcc the great whore and acts as if he was never part of the problem! We're not buying into that. I know how he treated my own mother. We have testimonies from people that he has hurt; and yet he will not acknowledge them in any way. He rents a a building worth more than 1.5 million dollars and basically carries on just like he did in the ntcc. Many have ignored the disturbing reality of what Ashmore is all about; and they have joined his cult or supported him in all his exertions. He says the same things that we have said. We compared the ntcc to Mystery Babylon, the Great whore, and people accused us of being bitter and not moving on with our lives while people flock to Ashmore when he says the same things. He parroted our views on recycled relationships and divorce on demand. As we have, he also accuses the ntcc of being abusive towards its ministers. We are not wanting anyone to flock to us. We don't even care if you think we are devils and full of bitter hatred towards the ntcc. We know for a fact that what we have shared on this blog has been effective; and we have received plenty of feedback that supports us. There always will be folks that don't agree with our approach; and that's okay. The freedom to have your own views and beliefs is a gift from God. We would like for you to escape to freedom but we also would like to warn you of the danger of whoring after Ashmore. What you do with this advice is entirely up to you. Is it time for you to fly?<br />
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<b><span style="color: red;">Flee. But Don't Go Alone!</span></b><br />
Leave and take your congregations with you. If you are being oppressed to the point of wanting out, just think how bad it is for the men, women and families of those who are following you. What's going to happen to them if you leave them to someone else? Do you think that the next ntcc minister who replaces you is really going to care for them more than you? You wouldn't be leaving if you didn't have a reason. If you are leaving because you want sin, you can stay in the ntcc and have all the sin you want. There are ministers who frequent whore houses who stay in the ntcc and get promoted. There are ministers who rape and molest their own children who stay in the ntcc. There are ministers who have cross dressed, and committed habitual acts of homosexuality who have stayed in the ntcc. There are people who abuse children that stay in the ntcc. There are people who abuse animals that stay in the ntcc. They will absolutely keep you around no matter what you do, as long as you support them financially and go along with their scam. If you become a liability or a public embarrassment to them, they will get rid of you in a New York minute unless you have the goods on them. Usually when people leave the ntcc it's because they want to get away from that garbage. Your best course of action is to leave and take as many with you as you can. <br />
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<b><span style="color: red;">"We are all Jews here." MSG Roddie Edmonds</span></b><br />
The following account was given by Rev. Chris Edmonds, the son of former Master Sergeant Roddie Edmonds. This account was given on a radio broadcast that I heard yesterday and I'm giving details as I heard them.<br />
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There was a man named Roddie Edmonds who was a Master Sergeant in the U.S. Army; who fought in World War II. He was a Christian and highly respected among his men. He went from the rank of private to Master Sergeant (E-8) in about one year. He was 24 years old when he was captured during extreme combat during the Battle of the Bulge. While he was in captivity at a POW camp he was the highest ranking NCO and had to answer for himself and 1270 men who were imprisoned to the Nazi officers running the POW camp. The Nazis ordered MSG Edmonds to have all the Jewish American prisoners, (about 200 men), fall out into a formation. MSG Edmonds had all 1270 men fall out into a formation. Edmonds then commanded all Jewish American soldiers to step forward and all 1270 men took a step forward. The Nazi officer than put a pistol to Edmonds head and said, "They cannot ALL be Jews". Identify the Jews or you will be shot in the head. Master Sergeant Edmonds said: "We are all Jews here. If you shoot me, you will have to shoot us all; and you will be tried for war crimes when we win this war." The Nazi walked away and let all the men live. Seventy years later the Nazi officer says he still remembers those words spoken by Master Sergeant Edmonds!<br />
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Master Sergeant Edmonds never told this account to a single soul to include his family, but passed away in 1985. His son, the Rev. Chris Edmonds, found his father's diary that listed the names and addresses of his men and some of his daily thoughts. While doing an extensive internet search, he found his father's name on the internet. One of MSG Edmonds' men was a real estate agent looking for a house for former President Nixon back in the 70's; and the New York times article mentioned that this real estate agent had attributed his life and the lives of dozens of other men being saved by MSG Edmonds. Rev. Chris Edmonds than contacted survivors and verified details of his father's heroic actions. Master Sergeant Edmonds was posthumously awarded the highest award among the Jewish nation called "Righteous Among the Nations", and was recommended for a posthumous Medal of Honor. <br />
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<b><span style="color: red;">I Did It. Pellicia Did It. You Can Too!</span></b><br />
I escaped from the ntcc by myself and took nobody with me, thinking that I was wrong and they were right. The ntcc is a lot like a spiritual Holocaust. Look how many souls they leave in their wake of destruction. They destroy 100 souls for everyone that they keep. People who think they are damned for eternity give up on God, thinking there is no hope for them. If you escape from this cult, please take as many as you can with you. You will be doing them a huge favor. If Kekel or the powers that be find out that you are trying to escape with your church members they will do everything they can to destroy you; and your members will be the ones that have to suffer. If you stay, you will continue to live the lie that they want you to live. Folks are leaving; and that's great news. Pellicia is reported to have left also. He was a teacher at the brain washing academy and his departure will be noticed among all the 'students'. We hope that those who leave will share their stories so that others may benefit. Find your way out and lead as many as you can to freedom. Then help others get out. It's the Christian thing to do. Isn't it time for you to fly?<br />
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<b style="color: red; font-family: georgia, 'times new roman', serif;"><i>"But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed." Gal 1:8</i></b><br />
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<b><i><span style="color: red; font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif;">"For I am the Lord, I change not." Mal 3:6</span></i></b><br />
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<i><b><span style="color: red; font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif;">"Jesus Christ, the same yesterday, and to day, and forever." Heb 13:8</span></b></i><br />
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These are great scriptures and they give us assurance that God never changes and the Gospel message is the same as it was 2,000 years ago. How many of you heard the countless times that this was shared: <b><span style="color: blue; font-family: "times" , "times new roman" , serif;"> "Times change, people change, but God never changes".</span></b> Strangely enough, there are a lot of changes that have taken place in the ntcc. Doctrines that were introduced with ultimatums and implications of eternal damnation for disobedience were a big part of how we lived our lives and the message that was preached to the unsaved masses. These doctrines were added to the gospel message that Jesus saves and we all incorporated these doctrines into our lives as if our eternal salvation was dependent on them. Paul said if we or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. Let's take a look at some of the strange doctrines that have been taught over the years in the ntcc and let's see if the ntcc falls into the accursed category. As many ntcc preachers were fond of saying, don't shoot us, we are just the messengers. We didn't write the bible, we just expect those who claim to be the last move of God on earth to actually be accountable for what they preach to others and how they live themselves.</div>
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<b><span style="color: lime;">1. Tithe:</span></b> </div>
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Tithe was not preached by Jesus, Paul or any of the apostles. The ntcc preaches that a person must pay tithe if they wish to make heaven their home. They teach that if the rapture were to take place, and a person had not paid all of their tithe, that they would be "overweight" and God would not take them to heaven. This is a strange doctrine that was never preached by anyone in the New Testament. Paul encouraged giving very often in the New Testament, but tithing was never mentioned by Paul. </div>
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<span style="color: red; font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif;"><i><b>"If we have sown unto you spiritual things, is it a great thing if we shall reap your carnal things?" 1 Cor 9:11</b></i></span></div>
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If a minister has dedicated his life to preaching the gospel, then he has the biblical right live of the gospel and he also has a right to be supported in the ministry. But Paul also said: </div>
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Now, 1 Cor 9:11 has been used by the ntcc "clergy" to justify mandatory tithe paying but 1 Cor 9:12 has been overlooked to willfully deceive people. Neither one of these scriptures have anything to do with tithe. Paul didn't want to hinder the gospel because he knew that if he required mandatory giving that others would come along and pervert the gospel. The ntcc would have to condemn Paul along with all others who don't preach mandatory tithe or hell doctrine. Now in the ntcc, you have people like Kekel getting rich off of mandatory tithe money that should never have been collected. Even if Paul would have quit his job and exercised his right to be supported by church members, can anyone honestly say in all sincerity that he would be living like the Kekels? The ntcc points to this scripture in their bylaws to support their tithe or hell doctrine:<br />
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<span style="color: red; font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif;"><i><b><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif;">"Now concerning the collection for the saints, as I have given order to the churches of Galatia, even so do ye.</span><span style="font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif;"> </span></b></i></span><span style="color: red; font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif;"><i><b><span style="background-color: #f8f8da; line-height: 25.2px;">Upon the first </span><span style="border: 0px solid rgb(0, 0, 0); box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 25.2px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: top;">day</span><span style="background-color: #f8f8da; line-height: 25.2px;"> of the week let every one of you lay by him in store, as </span><span style="border: 0px solid rgb(0, 0, 0); box-sizing: border-box; line-height: 25.2px; margin: 0px; padding: 0px; vertical-align: top;">God</span><span style="background-color: #f8f8da; line-height: 25.2px;"> hath prospered him, that there be no gatherings when I come</span></b></i></span><i style="color: red; font-family: georgia, 'times new roman', serif;"><b>." 1 Cor 16:1-2</b></i></div>
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Has there ever been a collection for the saints in the ntcc? You know, the poor saints who are struggling to pay bills and living off of Ramen noodles? Last I heard, Ramen is not a food group. You can call it Chicken or beef Ramen but all you have is some noodles and flavored dust. You can add chicken or beef to your Ramen but chances are that if you could afford chicken or beef you wouldn't be eating ramen noodles in the first place. But the collection that Paul took up was not tithe as the ntcc suggests in their bylaws. It was a collection for the Saints. The ntcc is deceiving you by using 1 Cor 16:2 to support their tithe or hell agenda. Here again we find that the ntcc loves to emphasize the part about "laying up in store every week", but they skim over the part that states that the collection was for the saints, not for the money grubbing clergy. The collections taken up in the ntcc do not go towards the poor saints and the ntcc is lying to you in their bylaws. It's up to you if you wish to be a willing accomplice to this lie. <br />
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Tithe is a strange doctrine and the ntcc uses it to condemn people to hell for not paying it. Tithe was never intended to get the Priests in the old testament rich. These Old Testament Priests didn't even have a possession among the children of Israel. Tithe is not part of the gospel and should not be used by anyone to measure the faithfulness of a Christian. Circumcision, Animal sacrifices and feasts are not part of the gospel, so why should tithe be? </div>
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This is another doctrine that the ntcc has made really strange. They define holiness as outward appearance and if you wish to be accepted, you will allow them to tell you what to wear and what not to wear. Isn't it strange that Jesus never concerned himself with what people wear? Is it part of the Gospel of Jesus Christ to tell people that if they wear ear rings that they are not holy and to condemn them for wearing ear rings? Davis allowed his followers to buy him a Rolex watch and a diamond pinky ring, but what do you think would happen if you were to show up at a conference or a bible school class wearing ear rings? </div>
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A woman in the ntcc was required to wear a long frumpy dress, no make up, no jewelry and not to cut her hair. If you cut split ends out of your hair, you were lumped in with all the other sinners who were on their way to hell. If God didn't bless you with a lot of hair, then you were required to wear a wig like Verna. This is strange doctrine and it was preached to us as if our eternal souls depended on it. Men could not have facial hair or wear shorts, and even jeans were frowned upon back in the day. Men had to get military hair cuts or they would be preached at for being effeminate. </div>
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This was how the ntcc defined holiness. It had very little to do with sanctification of heart and life. This strange doctrine was used as a control mechanism and a litmus test which one must pass if they wished to be a part of the ntcc group. <br />
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Now I know a lady that goes to a different church and she told me that she doesn't wear jewelry because she felt that like it was a personal conviction that she had between herself and God. She never pushed this belief on others nor did she say that she felt others needed to have this same conviction. When people do things willingly and not because some overbearing manipulative jerk preaches that you must turn or burn, it becomes "will worship" and it is part of their personal relationship with God. In the ntcc all of the rules were presented as ultimatums and you could not co-exist with them unless you obeyed these imposed rules. The same can be said of tithe. If a person were to pay tithe without being coerced to a cause that was not corrupted by money grubbing hypocrites, that person might be blessed above and beyond your average ntcc'r who drives a beat up oil puking junker and shops at the Good will store while feeding the insatiable desires for wealth and a luxurious lifestyle of people like Michael Craig Kekel and James Ross ("Jim") Ashmore. </div>
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<span style="color: blue; font-family: "times" , "times new roman" , serif;"><b>You could not watch TV referred to as the Devil Vision even though Davis had one in his house. </b></span><br />
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<span style="color: blue; font-family: "times" , "times new roman" , serif;"><b>Children were considered "a hindrance to the work of the Lord" and many men got vasectomies to comply with this false doctrine. The ntcc never discouraged this practice, but Kekel later said that these neutered men did it on their own, while Mike and Tanya spawned a rebellious sinner by the name of Grant.</b></span></div>
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Can anyone show us where Jesus went around requiring people to follow a bunch of rules like this? Come on people, let's turn on our brains and think this thing through. The Gospel has been perverted by the ntcc for the purpose of controlling people and profiting off of their misery. So many people were run off because they didn't adhere to the man made rules of the ntcc. These people all desired one thing and that was to be a Christian and live for God. When things got strange, they ended up leaving. When Davis, Kekel, Olson and Ashmore preached these strange doctrines, people felt like they would go to hell if they didn't apply these teachings to their lives. We all thought that we were the only people on earth that were going to heaven.</div>
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<span style="color: red; font-family: "georgia" , "times new roman" , serif;"><i><b>"And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her. And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery." Mark 10:11-12</b></i></span></div>
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Where does the ntcc get its doctrine of Adultery on Demand? Why is it that there are several marriages in the ntcc that have been dissolved and the former spouses are married off into other adulterous relationships? The bible is pretty clear on this subject. Jesus spoke about it and Paul also spoke about it. 1 Cor 7 will give you a break down on this. Nowhere in the bible does it say a woman can abandon a man because he gave his daughter a swimming lesson at a public pool without a wearing a shirt in the swimming pool (<a href="http://ntccxerblog.blogspot.com/2015/07/olsons-son-in-law-deserted-for-wearing.html" target="_blank">Olson's son-in-law Ousted</a>). Nowhere does it say that if a man gets sick of his wife or a woman gets sick of her husband that they can divorce them and try out a new partner to see if that works better. If a man or woman lose their spouse because of death, they are allowed to remarry. If the unbelieving wife or husband chooses to abandon their spouse, the believing spouse can get remarried. This does not mean that if the husband or wife sees the ntcc as a scam and stops attending their cult brain washing services that the brainwashed spouse can abandon the person that they made vows to. Nowhere in the bible does it say that Gesang can abandon his first wife because she exposed him for leaving bruises and welts on his child and be free to marry someone else; but he did, just ask Mary, his first ntcc wife, or Sandy, his second ntcc wife, or Michael, his son. We wonder if Gesang will beat his grandkids too? Someone might want to ask Angela Gesang how she feels about leaving her kids with Grandpa Gesang. The ones that have grounds for divorce are often the ones that are forced to leave; and if you don't believe me, just ask Fontenot's eX-wife. She had every right to leave him because of his incestuous acts, but Olson told her to find another church and kept Fontenot around so he could troll the ntcc's children's church that he once taught for some more victims. There are ministers and minister's wives in the ntcc that have been married not just twice, not just three times but four times and some have probably been married even more than that. Several former ministers and/or their wives have testified that people like Davis and Olson tried to split up their marriages so they could later marry them off to someone else. </div>
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If you are in the ntcc and you are a part of one of these adulterous marriages, (as defined by Jesus and Paul), you are a victim of the divorce on demand policy that the ntcc condones and encourages among its members. You might have a strange wife and an estranged wife, or you might have a strange husband and an estranged husband, but this is not what God intended when you vowed to be with each other for better or worse, till death do you part. </div>
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The ntcc has been offering strange fire before the Lord. Nadab and Abihu, the sons of Aaron, took censers, and offered strange fire before the LORD, which he did not command them to do. The ntcc has not been commanded to teach many of the strange doctrines that they teach. They are charged with the gospel; and they have introduced a strange gospel that didn't originate from God. The ntcc has been exploiting people for money and sex for decades; and as long as you keep enabling them, they will continue to offer a strange sacrifice to God that He is not pleased with, neither has God commanded them to do so. </div>
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Lately the ntcc has been changing as they have been getting exposed for their hypocrisy and double standards. They have had to change their doctrine and their gospel to accommodate their own compromise and to continue to bring in money and numbers. Even though many of the changes have been subtle and the rules have slowly been altered or vanished altogether, they still are the same corrupt people, profiting off of the labors of others. One thing is sure and that is that tithe will continue to be preached in spite of the fact that it has never been a New Testament requirement. Men will continue to divorce and marry strange wives while women divorce and marry strange husbands. The strange doctrine will always be a part of the ntcc; because the ntcc leadership are not about to give up their piece of the pie. They will continue to exploit people financially and sexually as they are still the same corrupt people that they were four decades ago.<br />
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In spite of all this strangeness, there is good news for you ntcc'rs. Many of you are hapless victims of false prophets and doctrines that Jesus and the Apostles warned us of. There still remains a remnant of people scattered throughout the earth that are sincere; and they desire to live their lives out of love for God and their fellow man. They are The Church, not the ntcc, but a body of believers that love God and love their neighbor as themselves. They care about the poor and less fortunate folks around them; and many of them preach more with their actions than they do with their mouths. They are not in this world to condemn the world but that they might show others that they have hope through Christ. Isn't that what the apostles and early church fathers were all about? Everything was about Jesus back then, not a bunch of made up rules that cannot be supported by the bible without twisting the written word of God. You are all free moral agents with the ability to think for yourselves. Salvation is much more personal. There is a reason why it's referred to as a personal relationship. Jesus doesn't need your money and neither does Kekel. Kekel wants your money and he will lie to you and anyone if it enriches his lifestyle. Kekel is the richest man in the ntcc and you need to ask yourself, "Does he really care about me? If I were to stop paying tithe, how would he treat me and my family?" Does God really care as much about your outward appearance as He does about what's inside? Does the inward work that God has done in your life translate to a bunch of rules and standards that are impossible to keep or does it translate into a life of love towards others that allows others to see the true works of God that have been done in your heart? We desire nothing from you other than your freedom. We don't ask for a cent on this blog; and we don't use it to advertise or make a profit. I have a job and feel that God has blessed us a lot in spite of the fact that my money is not going towards making a religious huckster like Kekel rich. Our sincere hope for you all is that you find your way to freedom and that you find true happiness and peace in your hearts. </div>
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;-) Jesus loves you.</div>Don and Angehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08130358238099845361noreply@blogger.com27tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8463118149068513544.post-6931677360734990362015-12-18T20:47:00.000-08:002016-01-27T07:26:34.194-08:00Wanted: Someone in the ntcc with Truth and IntegrityWe are seeking one person in the ntcc that has honesty and integrity. We have come across information that is damaging to the ntcc that has been communicated to us by several witnesses that have left the ntcc or been coerced to leave the ntcc recently and in the past. In our many attempts to uncover the truth we have yet to hear from anyone credible in the organization that can confirm or deny multiple accounts of abuse committed by the Executive Board of the ntcc. When researching other instances of malfeasance that were alleged in other religious organizations we have found that innocent church officials have answered such allegations immediately to clear their good names. In other instances when church officials were silent and refused to comment on any allegations they were found to be guilty of the allegations. The ntcc has been completely overhauled by Mike Kekel; and there are ministers that have admitted publicly that the ntcc has changed many of the rules that were once enforced as forbidden sins that would keep a person out of heaven. To our knowledge no apologies were ever made to any of the people who were forced out of the ntcc for not complying to these excessive rules.<br />
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James Ross ("Jim") Ashmore, a long time board member and highly respected minister, teacher/apostle and recipient of a very rare and arguably worthless Doctor of Divinity degree from ntcc founder R.W. Davis, recently left the ntcc organization with no explanation and has referred to the ntcc as a whore, warning members and ministers to run for their lives. If anyone on the planet is qualified to call the ntcc a whore, it would be Jim Ashmore. He knows all of the people who have fornicated and committed adultery with the whore; and he was basically that whore's pimp for forty years. Although we commend James Ross Ashmore for leaving, he has not had the spine to explain why he left and why it is that he is warning people to flee. One minister has testified that Jim Ashmore would sit in on the meetings with ministers that were accused of sins and as such was witness to Davis relieving those ministers of their credentials and demanding that they ride a church pew until they were deemed worthy to get back behind the pulpit. James Ross ("Jim") Ashmore also was Secretary, Notary, Bible School Dean and Overseer among other titles in ntcc, and his signature was on a large number of documents that frankly implicate the ntcc in profiting off real estate which violates their non profit status. <br />
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We are looking for someone honest and that has the integrity and spine to ask Mike Kekel and Joe Olson some very important questions. As moderators of the ntcc Xer Blog we have had many people share tragic stories of abuse that they have endured at the hands of Rodger Wilson Davis, Kekel, Olson and James Ross ("Jim") Ashmore. Many of the testimonies that have come to us are first hand accounts of sexual abuse committed by ntcc founder, Rodger Wilson Davis. While Davis was influencing several ministers to get vasectomies because, as he claimed, "Children hinder the work of the Lord", it was reported that Davis molested, and by legal definition raped a 16 year old girl named Pam Norton. At the time of this incident, Pam was married to Johnny Jordan. Johnny had previously raped a bible school student named Ken who has come forward on this blog and shared his horrific story. Ken has recently had recorded conversations with Johnny Jordan who, while in prison for raping a child, admitted to his act of cruelty of raping Ken; in fact Jordan also made a point to tell Ken he wasn't high on drugs as he had once claimed and Jordan stated that he "enjoyed it". The marriage of Pam and Johnny Jordan happened with Davis' knowledge that Johnny Jordan had forcibly raped Bro Ken. Davis even allowed this sexually deviant man Johnny Jordan to work for him in the office at St. Louis while Davis was having his way with Johnny's sixteen year old wife Pam (Norton) Jordan. During this time period Johnny Jordan raped Pam's younger sister, Lisa Norton, and got her pregnant at the age of 14. Lisa Norton was the youngest girl to ever graduate from the ntcc bible school at the time. Lisa reported that she was also physically abused by her mother, Barbara Norton Warwick. Barbara Norton abandoned two of her children - pregnant by rape Lisa and Lisa's special needs brother Terry at Davis' behest on Christmas day. Later Davis dispatched Jim Ashmore to run Lisa and her best friend Lori Kelley out of the church. Lisa and Lori both stated that J. R. Ashmore called them whores and sluts in front of the entire congregation, humiliating them and causing them years of grief. They believe he did this so that they would leave and never come back. It was hoped that their story would never be told in the ears of anyone from the ntcc. Meanwhile, Barbara Norton and child rapist Johnny Jordan along with his wife Pam, whom Davis was molesting, were all moved to Graham Washington and these sex crimes were brushed under the carpet. But just as dirt under a carpet mounds up, so did these sex sins. Pam and Lisa have an older sister and it was shared that Davis made unwanted sexual advances toward her too; but she denied him, being older and mature enough to know that it was wrong. Other slightly older married women have shared that Davis made inappropriate visits to their houses while they their husbands were at work. Two of them simply did not open the door for him. And they did see him knocking on the doors of other married women, and even entering some. One lady even admitted that "the same thing" happened with her as had been shared by Pam. There are many allegations and testimonies of other instances of physical and sexual abuse. Families have been separated and children have been displaced because of the policies and rules enforced by the ntcc leadership. A former Board Member's wife also stated that early in her tenure with ntcc, while she was alone in the office with Davis, he asked her, "What part of your body does your husband like the best?" and he wouldn't leave her alone until she awkwardly answered his sexually-innuendo-laden and inappropriate question.<br />
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There are too many corroborating accounts of this abuse to ignore. The bible only requires two or three witnesses. Wake up folks. There are more than that who have testified on this blog alone. We know that many ntcc'rs and Xers alike would love for us to drop this and leave it alone. Unfortunately we feel obligated to follow up on this because Mikey Kekel, Jimmy Ashmore, Joey Olson and Stodgy Rodgy Davis have tried to ignore this altogether and refuse to address it. To our knowledge nobody has denied that any of this took place; and in the light of all the suffering that was caused by these sick acts we are looking for someone that has the backbone simply to ask Kekel about his knowledge of what took place. We are looking for someone in the Graham area, current or past member or minister that is not afraid to ask Kekel about these accounts of abusive behavior by R.W. Davis. Please be aware of weasel words and misleading lingo that Kekel and the ntcc leadership have used in the past to avoid questions. Vic testified that Kekel and Kinson proudly boasted of "feeling up" their underage teen dates, (Tanya Davis and Debbie Johnson), and when Kekel was confronted regarding this by Bruce Smith of the Mountain News, Kekel replied, "We didn't go there". That is not a straight answer. You either did or you didn't feel her up. Yes or no. Don't accept weasel words. Kinson was confronted on Chief's blog about leaving his wallet in a whore house and he came on the blog and said, "I never slept with anyone but my wife". Those are also weasel words. Nobody ever accused him of sleeping and who goes to a whore house to sleep, anyway?<br />
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Clinton perjured himself by saying he "never had sex with that woman"; but DNA proved that he received oral sex from Monica Lewinsky as she had testified. Be aware of snakes. They come in all shapes and sizes, with scales on their eyelids. (TobyMac). If Kekel tries to say, I wasn't there, ask him specifically if he has any knowledge of it. Don't let him weasel his way out of it. While you are at it ask him if Kinson was moved from Japan/Okinawa to Graham because he was reported for visiting a whore house. I guarantee that Kekel knows about that. Ask him if Ralph St. Clair lost his license for having sexual intercourse (raping) with his preteen daughter Julie. These are all questions that can be answered with a simple yes or no. While you are at it, ask Kekel to show you where in the New Testament we are commanded to pay tithe with the judgment of hell hanging over us if we don't?<br />
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Why should we ignore these things and pretend like the same people who oppressed us with man made rules and got rich doing so, should not have to answer for any of their own perverted actions? Why should anyone be so naive as to think that Kekel got rich investing his money or that God has blessed him for being super spiritual when countless people have testified of being victims of harassment and ridicule for doing things that Kekel himself has done openly?<br />
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So we are looking for someone who has the backbone and integrity to ask Kekel and Olson about these reports of abuse. We highly doubt that anyone will stand for these victims; and we are not holding our breath. We know that any such questions will be recompensed with judgment and ridicule. This is precisely how cults operate; anyone who <strike>'gets out of line'</strike> thinks for himself will get raised up and have the blocks knocked out from underneath him. They were here before you and they will be there long after you are gone. Another phony church hypocritical leader gets away with abuse and as long as people go along with it they will continue to abuse folks. <br />
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Let us ask you something. If today you saw a 24 year old dude groping a 15 year old girl, would you follow him into the ministry and call him Sir and ask his spiritual advice? That's what you do when you follow kekel. He did that to Tanya, bragged about it, refused to repent, and yet you follow him. Why? How about it Gilbert Luna (if you're still there)? Any answer for that? Would you want someone to do that to your daughter? Would you stand around and let it happen? Why do you stay in the ntcc? How about any of you so-called men? Are you going to invite someone to attend ntcc, and then, when that family reports that their kids were raped or molested, what will you say to their parents? <br />
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The sad thing is that many of you Xers have jumped in bed with James Ross ("Jim") Ashmore and you are getting ready to make the same devastating mistakes that you made with the ntcc. We challenge you to ask Jim Ashmore a few questions also. Did he call Lisa and Lori sluts and whores from behind the pulpit in front of a church crowd to run them off for R.W. Davis? Yes or no? Did he say anything negative to them at Davis' request? I would respect him more if he would man up and come forward about his involvement with the ntcc. If you are supporting him, you owe the ntcc leaders an apology. He was just as involved in the splitting up of families and the profiting off of tithe as anyone else in the ntcc. He was Davis' hatchet man; and he did whatever Davis ordered him to do. If he were truly repentant and concerned about saving people from the whore he would come clean and admit his part in this wicked organization. Instead he has created his own whore, given her a fresh coat of make up, and sold her to the ntcc xers! He's just a religious pimp profiteering off folks so desperate for approval that they refuse to recognize the simple truth that Jim Ashmore's religious group is just an imitation of the ntcc model, a new whore to get the pimp rich.<br />
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We are living in a time of false prophets and false teachers. There are thousands of religions and thousands of doctrines. Everyone thinks that they have a monopoly on the truth and if you don't get behind their program you will be condemned to an eternity in hell. Why would anyone who has been through hell on earth in the ntcc be so quick to get cozy with James Ross Ashmore? How many more years of your life will you waste trying to obtain the approval of a hypocrite? He is running the same scam under a different name. He is the same person that he was in the ntcc. He admits no wrong and will not implicate his former partners in crime with any specific wrong doing. If you believe his lie about not knowing anything, you are gullible and just as culpable if you support him as you would be supporting Kekel or Olson. You don't just leave an organization after oppressing people for 40 years and start calling them the great whore without any clue as to why you led them down that road of prostitution. He can see you coming. You were suckered one time and you can be suckered again. You're just recycled Johns. Don't ask him any questions, and don't scrutinize him. Don't wonder in your heart why he is still secretive or why he is still not transparent about church finances. You jumped off of one sinking ship and survived only to get on another sinking ship. But it's Jim (James Ross) and Helen ("Nin") Ashmore. They are such wonderful people aren't they? They didn't write that letter full of lies to Greg Shunk saying that they would be supported by the ntcc as missionaries did they? Oh, perhaps that letter was a forgery or they didn't know that they wouldn't actually be supported. I'm sure Jim Ashmore's having been all over the world didn't have a clue as to what was going on. He's either blind, stupid, grossly incompetent, or just a big fat liar. HELLO. And Helen is just another bobble-head borg wife, blithely smiling and nodding her head as if all is well, while hiding in her heart some of the darkest secrets on earth! Don't be like them. Don't join yourselves to this latest ntcc splinter group. It's just a bad remake of the same old same old. Just another whore; one allowed to wear make up and jeans, but every bit the whore, same as ntcc. Another body to be exploited in order for the pimp to have a phat wallet. Wake up.<br />
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Come on people. Beware of hypocrites. Beware of phony showmanship. Ministers today should be teaching people how to live for God on their own and how to stand for God in the absence of church leaders; because there are too many religions and money hungry posers out there that don't care about your spiritual welfare. We're going to give you one little piece of spiritual advice; and you can throw it away or disregard it if you want. Don't trust any man with your salvation; and don't throw your money away into a program or a building. Jesus never asked for a dime and never was concerned about having a building. It was all about loving others and helping one another. He was a servant of all and admonished his followers to be the same. You can't go wrong if you follow the model that Jesus left for us. Mathew, Mark, Luke and John penned it all down for us, and very few seem to want to follow the example of Jesus. Salvation is free; and Christianity was never intended to be dictated to you by a bunch of hirelings that want to profit off of your misery. <div class="blogger-post-footer">Comments have been disabled on this blog.
;-) Jesus loves you.</div>Don and Angehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08130358238099845361noreply@blogger.com70tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8463118149068513544.post-48951920218906614882015-12-06T06:14:00.001-08:002015-12-08T03:46:31.089-08:00The New Testament Christian Churches of America, Getting Rich Off of One Brain Washed Sucker After Another"No servant can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon." This scripture was important enough to be mentioned twice in the New Testament. Once in Mathew 6:24 and once in Luke 16:13. Strongs defines Mammon as wealth personified. The ntcc church in Glendale has boldly flaunted a banner on their ntcc website begging for money.<br />
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Can it get any more blatant and obvious than this? If God really wanted the church to become the most well funded organization on the planet, why didn't Jesus emphasize this scam? Riches corrupt and Jesus spake of this many times. So did many of the apostles. These ntcc hypocrites are brazen about taking your money and they have no shame whatsover about advertising this practice so that all the mind numbed masses will continue to forfeit their money. The hypocrites that preach this doctrine are getting rich while the lowly church members struggle to make it from one offering to another. Most ntcc members have accepted this life of sacrificing to make others rich and they don't even question it, they just open their wallets and give, thinking that this is what God wants them to do. They won't study the bible to find out what God really wants, but they believe their cult leaders to their own financial destruction. </div>
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It's amazing how these rich religious rule enforcers flaunt their money before the brainwashed suckers that so willingly give it up. Many of the ntcc suckers will leave the ntcc and follow another rich prosperity preacher like Ashmore or Denis. They will give their money to these hucksters just like they did to Kekel or Davis because they never learned anything. They all have the same goal and it is driven by money. If it were not driven by money they would publicly denounce their money grubbing past and become a servant of all. They all have it backwards. They think that they are the ones that should be served and given to. Jesus did not come to take up collections and erect buildings. He came to seek and save that which was lost. Jesus gave much more than He received. So did Paul and so did the Apostles. Offerings were taken up for the poor saints and nobody was asked to pay one dime of tithe to Jesus or the early church leaders. Tithe was carried over from the Old Testament by a bunch of money grubbing religious hypocrites that decided that people were gullible enough to believe that tithe was still required in the New Testament, contrary to scripture. The ntcc has rode the tithe train for the better part of five decades and they have no plans to change. Ashmore collects tithe just like the ntcc. He has never told anyone not to pay tithe nor has he denounced Kekel or the Executive board for getting rich off of tithe, but he lives a wealthier life style than most of the ntcc Board members and keeps his blog private so nobody can call him out on the things he says. Denis has his share and many of the board members are getting rich driving around on their all expense paid vacations in their recreational vehicles collecting offerings for their own greedy gains, while ntcc members are giving all they can afford to give.</div>
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Don't listen to us. We are just bitter X-ers that need to move on and forget about the past, or so we have been told. We actually have been looked down upon by many because we dare speak against these sorry hypocrites but that's okay, we are not in this to win a popularity contest. We hope that people will wise up and stop being so gullible but we can only share what we have heard and seen. We can't make people use their brains. Freedom is a wonderful thing but as long as people choose to give their money to rich, religious, phony, deceptive, lying, scoundrels, they will never be free. God doesn't want your money. God owns the cattle on a thousand hills. God doesn't want you to give your money to people like Kekel who live in mansions and never lead by example. You go soul winning while he 'administrates', plays video games and looks at online bank statements. You have been taken for a bunch of fools and they will continue to take advantage of you as long as you ignore the bible and continue to make them rich. </div>
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;-) Jesus loves you.</div>Don and Angehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08130358238099845361noreply@blogger.com13tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8463118149068513544.post-49606553300326644352015-11-26T06:16:00.003-08:002015-11-26T06:22:13.393-08:00Who Gets Paid While You Get Played? "All Christians pay tithes and give in offerings". This is a line that ntcc ministers are taught to say before every offering they take up; and the ntcc REQUIRES them to say it each time. Why would they teach this in bible school? And why would they enforce it out in the various works? It's not biblical; that's for sure. They reinforce this teaching over and over again so that people will not question their motives; and they will blindly pull out their wallets and pay up. They use manipulative terminology like, "Paid up, Prayed up, and Ready to go up", which implies that you are not ready for the rapture unless you pay your Christian fees and dues. This is a false doctrine and is nowhere to be found in the bible. All Christians in the ntcc are indoctrinated from their rebirth into ntcc-style Christianity to know for certain that if they expect to make heaven their home, it's going to involve paying tithe and giving in offerings. If they don't pay their tithe, they will be too heavy when the rapture takes place; and God will pass over them. How is it that people like Ashmore, who's referred to as a walking bible, have never set the record straight? All of the executive board members of the ntcc know the bible well enough to know that paying tithe is not a Christian requirement. And the fact that they preach tithe or hell makes them all false prophets and money grubbing hypocrites. The sad thing is that all ntcc'rs go along with it without questioning their motives. We have referred to ntcc'rs as brainwashed suckers; because they willfully give large amounts of money to their ntcc cult leaders while they are lied to about where that money goes. We were in the same boat as many of you ntcc'rs. We were also brainwashed suckers. We gave large amounts of money to our ntcc cult leaders while we were a part of this group.<br />
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The purpose of this blog post is to bring more awareness to the tithe scam that is being run by your ntcc cult leaders and to let you in on a big secret. What is the big secret? Well, it's really not a secret at all. Your tithe dollars are being spent frivolously right in front of your noses; and it's being flaunted before your very eyes by Kekel himself. You are being played while your cult leaders are being paid. Does God really need all that money? They will feed you a line of absolute garbage by quoting Malachi to you as if you were living under the Old Testament Law and they were Levites that had no possession; but in actuality, they are very wealthy religious hucksters that are playing you for complete fools. God doesn't need your money, but Kekel wants it badly. Jesus never preached tithe for his ministry; and Paul was very careful to work with his own hands so that the gospel would not be perceived by others to be used as a vehicle to get a few wicked phony hypocrites rich.<br />
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Everyone in the ntcc believes that tithe is required by God and that if they do not pay it, they will spend eternity roasting in the flames of the lake of fire. Everyone in the ntcc has convinced themselves that God needs their tithe for the furtherance of the Gospel and that their money is going towards reaching lost souls. Nobody in the ntcc questions their cult leaders and lives another day to tell about it. Many years ago we were all a part of this group; and we were fed the same lines as you are being fed. We all fell for this scam; and we faithfully paid our tithe to avoid the flames. We watched as newcomers would get their fields plowed for disagreeing with tithe or questioning the cult leaders motives; and we bought into the scam just like many of you are still buying into it today.<br />
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One thing that many of us didn't realize is where all of our tithe dollars were going. Now that the sinnernet has been reclassified to the internet and ntcc cult leaders are using it for social networking and to create eyewash for the masses, there is a clear money trail that is completely public; so you can see where your money actually goes. In spite of the fact that this cyber money trail exist, many refuse to see it; and others ignore the blatant misuse of funds. People have been conditioned to believe that the tithe scandal is God's way of blessing people like Kekel down here on this earth for their life of dedication and labor. Meanwhile all of the ntcc cult leaders and board members continue to preach tithe as if your eternal soul hinged on ten percent of your income. Unless you wish to join those who are being tormented in the flames of hell, you will pay your tithe and it doesn't matter what they spend it on. That's not biblical. You cannot purchase salvation or guarantee it with ten percent of your income. And in the Old Testament, under the law, the tithe was carefully managed after it was taken up. But ntcc wants you to think they can do whatever they want while they micro-manage you after robbing you blind.<br />
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So what do they spend it on? I'm glad you asked because we have been trying to tell you for years; but you won't listen. You say God is blessing the man of Gawwwwwwwduh! Actually God has nothing to do with it. If you read the bible that you claim to believe you will find that the rich have their rewards and the poor are the ones that are near and dear to God's heart. If you spent as much time and money trying to help the poor and broken hearted as you did making Kekel rich, you would be a better person and you would actually learn about one of God's greatest valued attributes called charity. Since many of you refuse to believe our words, we will use pictures once again to tell the story. We promise that none of the pictures that we share have been photo shopped or manipulated to influence your thinking. These pictures have been posted before your very eyes by Kekel and others who want you to accept them without questioning their motives. They flaunt your money before you so that you can see how Gawd is blessing them; but have you ever seen your money actually going towards the lost? How often to they flaunt that before you? Never, because it never happens. So here we go, as the following pictures paint a thousand words, try to imagine how these examples of fraud, waste and abuse are justifiable ways to spend your tithe dollars.<br />
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Before Grant came along, secular education was frowned upon and many ntcc'rs were discouraged from seeking higher education outside of the ntccbwa (Brain Washing Academy). Many rules were broken by Grant Kekel and later changed to accommodate his lifestyle. Davis himself has been noted for saying that his grandson Grant was a sinner, but why would ntcc tithe payers be required to pay this sinner's way through secular college? The ntcc is being pretty tight lipped about where Grant is going to law school or how many of your tithe dollars it is going to cost to support this endeavor. I suppose that many of you ntcc'rs should be grateful for Grant because he brought you wholesale compromise. Now your children can wear shorts and participate in sporting events at school. The picture above says it all and it was flaunted before your very eyes on social media. Grant wearing a lei made out of money at secular college graduation. I wonder what ntcc mandatory functions the Kekels had to miss to attend this graduation? Would you be allowed to miss a mandatory function to attend one of your relative's graduation events? It cost a lot of money for Grant to attend Charles Wright Academy which was a private high school that he attended while learning and participating in sports (<a href="http://www.maxpreps.com/athlete/grant-kekel/x6vUSvTwEeKZ5AAmVebBJg/gendersport/football-stats.htm" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">proof</a>). Your mandatory tithe helped finance this endeavor. Is this why God needs your tithe money, so a sinner can get a business degree and possibly now a law degree? Where are all the pictures of money being spent to save lost souls with your tithe dollars? Your money is going into a bag with holes, as Vic stated in a recent comment, quoting Habakkuk. <br />
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Here we find your tithe dollars hard at work as the Kekels take yet another all expense paid vacation to Europe. This picture was taken at Ephesus at what is left of the temple of the goddess Diana. Why would God send you to hell for not giving people like the Kekels your tithe? Why would you feel condemned for not enabling these hucksters to travel around the world at your expense? Do you actually feel like you are robbing God if you do not contribute to this waste of "God's money"?<br />
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Do you still think that you would be hell bound if you didn't pay tithe to these false prophets? Recently Kekel left a Facebook post that stated: "During last evening's fellowship, the "Graham Team" surprised me and Rev. Kinson with offerings for Pastor Appreciation, and we were taken totally by surprise!" <br />
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Is this really what Christianity is all about? Can you find examples of excess like this anywhere in the New Testament? Is this what Jesus died for? This is a big time scam and money making scheme. There is no justification for all of the money that has been spent and yet the tithe dollars continue to roll in. People are being played for fools. None of this wasteful spending has been hidden, but it's been on display for everyone to see. The next time that your tithe is due, you ought to put it in the bank and save it so one day you can help your aging mother or that widow down the block. Maybe you could donate some to a homeless shelter or orphanage, practicing what the bible calls "<a href="https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/jas/1/27/s_1147027" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">pure religion</a>". These crooks don't need your money; but they want it. As long as you continue to enable them, they will keep playing you. Please turn on your brains and think about this for a moment. Is this what God wants for your lives? Please think about this while you are being thankful for all the blessings of God on this Thanksgiving day. <div class="blogger-post-footer">Comments have been disabled on this blog.
;-) Jesus loves you.</div>Don and Angehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08130358238099845361noreply@blogger.com30tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8463118149068513544.post-39813800541028393852015-11-15T05:35:00.001-08:002015-11-15T05:35:22.315-08:00The UnchurchedRecently we received an anonymous comment which brought to light some very interesting observations. The comment was submitted on Veteran's Day and is worthy of a further look:<br /><br /><b><i><span style="color: red;">Anonymous said:<br /> <br />"I recall somebody preaching about how that :<br /> "the grave has the doctors mistakes but hell claims the preacher's mistakes"<br /><br />Every guy that stands in that pulpit will have to give an account for the people they ridiculed, belittled, found fault , etc. etc.<br />What is a Christian you asked?<br />Such a sobering thought. I've experienced love and understanding and help from the rotgut sinner next door who drank everyday but helped us load our stuff to move to yet another city.<br />I got help from the unchurched, those we were taught to reach out because they were on their way to hell and yet they, those "sinners" were kind to me and family to get us on our feet again!<br />What is a Christian ?<br />Is it the way you dress or attend church or tithe or soulwin?<br />You may post pictures of how many people attend your church or how many events you do in your church.<br />Post pictures of holding babies showing love & smiles, celebrating birthdays but in the back of my mind is the thousands of people that were left behind because of our inability to really be a Christian to them.<br />What about those that were the preacher's mistakes? Can a post on facebook or a positive thought on your twitter bring them back?"</span></i></b><br />
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There are some very good points made in this comment. The ntcc has definitely created their own definition of what Christianity should be; and their doctrine is constantly being upgraded like the Windows operating system on your personal computer. I'm sure all of those who use <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9i1LWqKAJvs"><b> MACs </b></a>suffer in their own way; but I'm a PC; so you'll have to bear with me on this illustration. Windows came into being many years ago. I remember when Windows 3 and 3.1 were being used back in the early 90's. Since then there have been upgrades like Windows 95 and 98. Now we are up to Windows 10.0. With each upgrade there was a promise to make things easier and give the customer more options and features. What wasn't advertised was how that Windows would become more intrusive and integrated into your private life. Technology, to include the platforms for mobile phones and social media, is taking away your freedom and privacy. When windows 8 came out, we bought a new laptop for Ange at Walmart with all the bells and whistles. $500 bucks' worth of technology. It had a DVD player on it that would not play DVDs unless you paid for a program that would allow you to watch your DVDs, or figured out how to circumvent or uninstall this bloatware program. The touch screen technology was and still is maddening to me. So is the text to voice technology on my cell phone. Many of our cell phones with the exception of iPhones (MAC products) are running Google based platforms. Many 'free' apps that you run on Android phones require permissions that allow the providers to control your camera and microphone and grant access to much of your personal information, such as all your contacts. The same is true with your PC. When you download and install new programs, you give the owners of those programs access to other areas of your private life. Now all of the advertising that you see on Google, Facebook, and Android is all targeted toward you; because they have integrated your personal information into their advertising campaigns. Cell phones are now getting rid of SD cards and removable batteries so that everything you do can be stored in the 'cloud'; and all of your history can never be fully deleted. Reportedly, next gen phones won't even offer an on-board gallery on your device; instead all your pictures and videos will automatically be uploaded to the 'Cloud'! Google wants to integrate your Facebook accounts, your contact lists, friends' phone numbers and addresses, your photos and videos, your blogs and other social media and a whole lot of other stuff into a nice friendly public format, supposedly for your 'convenience'. Ahem! They have promised you more features and more capabilities while taking away much of your freedom and intruding deeply into your privacy.
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The ntcc has much in common with today's technology. Their doctrine keeps getting upgraded and rules are changed to accommodate their exposure on the internet. Before the internet exposed them for their double standards they could pretty much preach anything they wanted; and nobody would know any better. They could influence men to get vasectomies and discourage grown adults from bettering themselves through education and career opportunities. They could take up offerings for diamond pinky rings and Rolex watches to give to Davis, while blasting visiting women for wearing 'devil stirrups'. They could get away with placing strict requirements on others while they broke the rules themselves and used people to get what they wanted. Now that it's plastered all over the internet, their hypocrisy and double standards have a damaging and lasting effect on their bottom line. To stop the bleeding they have to change the rules frequently to deceive the religious masses who follow them and support them financially. If you are in the ntcc, they are doing this right under your noses; and they are playing you for absolute fools.<br />
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So, with all this confusion, how do you know what is right and what is wrong? People are gullible and that is why their freedoms are being taken away. In the ntcc, you are being promised eternal life while they take your money and your freedom away. You are promised that one day you will judge the world; but you have to ask your ntcc pastor for permission to go to another believer's house and have dinner. You are going to rule and reign with Jesus forever in glory; but you can't talk to a member of the opposite sex without permission from your ntcc hirelings. They have lorded over you and will continue to lord over you as long as you allow them.
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We can learn much from the "unchurched". There just might be something wrong with your religion when you are supposed to be an ambassador for Christ but your fellow rotgut sinner shows more compassion towards others than the ntcc leaders that you try to emulate. Who was a Christian to the the man who went down from Jerusalem to Jericho and fell among thieves and was left for dead? Was it the priest or Levite who saw his suffering but crossed the street to walk by him while pretending not to see his anguish? No, it was the Samaritan who the religious leaders considered to be dogs and devils. See Luke 10:30-37 (<a href="http://blb.sc/0031kk">here</a>). The unchurched have put the ntcc to much shame. The ntcc claims to be the last hope for mankind; but they will not even give a dime to a homeless man, let alone allow him into their churches. The homeless have nothing to tithe, so their souls are not important to the ntcc hirelings; while the 'unchurched' are out there running soup kitchens and homeless shelters and sharing the gospel with them. When you see more kindness coming from a sinner than a saint, you have to wonder if that saint is really a saint and if that sinner is really a sinner. (Rom 2:26-27; Rom 3:30 <a href="http://blb.sc/0031MR" rel="nofollow"> here</a>
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Why does the ntcc find it so important to label people? Why is there a caste system of tiers - '<i>just a'</i> church member, <i>'faithful' </i>church member (tithe payer), <i>'good'</i> brother (a real sycophant), minister's wife, minister, Pastor? Why does everyone of another denomination have to be demonized by the ntcc leadership? They have rundown every organization and every other religious group under the sun while saying that they believe they are not the only ones going to heaven. They are talking out of both sides of their mouths! They ride in on their high horses, blasting people for attending other churches as if the ntcc has a monopoly on the truth. They act as if they hold all of the copyrights to the bible and anyone who opposes them is opposing God. Meanwhile the actions of a sinner, to be a 'neighbor' to a homeless person by handing him a ten dollar bill, are condemned as contributing to their sin. I'd rather give a homeless person a hundred dollar bill than to give an ntcc pastor a ten dollar bill. ;At least you know that the hundred dollar bill might bring someone without a roof over his or her head some comfort as opposed to what happens to your ten dollar bill in the ntcc. For all you know, the money that you give to your ntcc pastor might be going towards a visit to the whore house! You'll never know where your money is going because the ntcc hides their financial records from you. How do you think someone like Kekel who had nothing when he came into the ntcc, now is a multimillionaire in a 'non profit' organization? He plays you for a bunch of fools. He uses psychology to play you and then he reels you in like a big sucker fish and you continue to give your money and your future to him; because you think you need to do that in order to be saved.
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<br />While the ntcc excludes people from heaven the unchurched are out there bringing people hope. I don't know who is actually going to heaven and who isn't. I'm not God; and only God knows. I think that the ones who actually practice what Jesus practiced have a much better chance than the ones who are in it for the money. The ones who quote a bunch of positive thinkers on their Facebook pages while bragging about how many prayed for salvation and the Holy Ghost often look down their noses at the common folks. Their outreach is only to those that have the ability to pay tithe. Much of that tithe money goes towards building up the ntcc's real estate empire and lining the Kekels' pockets with cash. The unchurched probably have a much better chance of shouting on the streets of gold; because many of them actually do things out of compassion and love that is not influenced by religious hypocrisy.<div>
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If you are trying to be a better Christian and looking for a way to live in constant victory, don't join yourself to a church that has to constantly upgrade their doctrine to control the damage that is caused by their double standards. You don't need to get rid of your Galaxy S-3 or S-4 in exchange for the S-5 note or the S-6 Edge that has a non-removable battery and forces you to store all your personal data in a Cloud. Your S-3 and S-4 are working just fine. You don't need some religious hypocrite to take away your freedom and your money. All you need is Jesus. Try practicing love. You won't go wrong. Don't love someone just because they are praised by others, try loving someone who nobody else cares about. Don't join a group just because they have a program that appears to reach the lost, when in reality it only reaches people who can give them enough money to make them wealthier. You are much better off without the likes of the ntcc religious hypocrites and leeches on the body of Christ. You are much better off with the unchurched. Being in a church doesn't make you a Christian any more than being in a barn makes you a horse or being in a garage makes you a mechanic.</div>
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Eventually, we'll all have to upgrade our phones and go along with the technological hoax; but you'll never have to upgrade your salvation or your Christianity. There are no new improved versions of God's plan for salvation out there. It always was and always will be a simple plan, with no activation fees for you to pay. Christ paid it all for you. Love God with all your heart and love your neighbor as yourself. These are the two most important commandments in the bible and you don't have to join a group of money grubbing hypocrites to be a part of God's church - the body of Christ. You don't have to frequent a building or pay anything to anyone. You don't have to subject yourself to a bunch of man-made rules and outward standards either. If it were that important, Jesus would have mentioned it. You don't have to sign any documents or put your name on any church rolls, not even the ntcc tithe payers' record sheet or weekly report! You don't have to dress a certain way or eat your french fries with a fork. How stupid! Do you think God really cares about all that stuff? Ecc 12:13 <span style="background-color: transparent; color: red;"><b>"Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man."</b></span><span style="background-color: transparent;"> 1 John 5:3 </span><b style="background-color: transparent;"><span style="color: red;">"For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous."</span></b>
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There are hundreds of millions of people around the world that claim to be Christians. There are also thousands of religions and denominations that claim faith in Christ. There are also thousands upon thousands of conflicting doctrines that are preached and taught around the world. Con artists and religious hucksters have seized upon this opportunity to make a fortune off of the spiritually starved and blind masses who are convinced to follow them. In the midst of all of this confusion the truth is staring everyone in the face in all of its simplicity. It doesn't have to be broken down by a theologian. The world has spawned endless versions of the truth and many people go from church to church looking for someone to break it all down for them. Is there such a thing as a healthy church? Is anyone sincerely sharing the truth without using the gospel and the people of God to get rich? How is a person supposed to find God when every church has their own way, their own path, their own doctrine and their own agenda? It may seem like a daunting task to sort out truth in the midst of a church world that is laced with hypocrisy and legalism, but don't let this overwhelm you. <br />
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The ntcc and many cults like them imply that they are the only ones on planet earth that know the truth; but they have deceived thousands upon thousands of people, infecting them with their toxic and venomous doctrines that exclude many sincere seekers of God. They will tell you that a Christian is someone who is Christlike. But what do they really know about being Christlike? Did Christ ever tell people that if they didn't pay their tithe to him that they were God robbers? Did Christ ever gather the people that were following him together and take up offerings? Did Jesus ever tell people not to bring the poor and homeless to hear him preach or to be healed of their infirmities? Did Jesus ever tell people to dress a certain way if they wanted to be a Christian? <br />
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The ntcc knows little to nothing about following God. The only thing worthwhile that they can teach you is how NOT to be a Christian; and that lesson is often learned over the span of several years - not by listening to their words, but by observing their lives. If you want to know what a Christian is you would be much better off going to the source. The bible is broken down into two testaments. The Old Testament gives us a history of how God dealt with people prior to sending His son to die for our sins. The New Testament tells us how Jesus lived and died for us, and what we must do to be a Christian. The New Testament is a guide that explains what Christianity is all about and is rooted in simplicity and common sense. You will not find thousands of different ways to be a Christian in the bible. The most popular and quoted scripture in the bible, John 3:16 and its partner Romans 10:9, are simple and easy to understand:<br />
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So why are there thousands of denominations all of which claim to follow the truth? People have <i>added to</i> and <i>taken away from</i> the simple and plain truth; so that they could profit off of people that want to be Christians. Why does this happen? Because people feel like they need someone else to teach them Christianity. Because they don't know about Christianity, they consider anyone that stands behind a pulpit to be an expert in all Christian matters. People feel that the only way to know God is to follow someone else and to attend their meetings and support their programs. It's all about money and commercializing the church. The ntcc and its splinter groups, to include Ashmore and Denis, all have an agenda; and they are very secretive about their true motives and their financial aspirations. If you ask them where the money goes, they get offended and defensive; because the money is their god. They make their living off of their ability to con people out of their money; so it doesn't matter how much they preach Christ crucified, how many pray at the altar, or how many lives are changed. To these religious hucksters true 'success' in the ntcc and other cults and 'churches' is measured by how many tithe payers they have. "Period!"<br />
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It's no wonder why people are so messed up. Many people leave the ntcc; but they seldom learn from their mistakes. Many who leave ntcc end up hating God and religion altogether; because they were forced into a <i>demanded</i> and <i>required</i> obedience to <u>man-made rules</u> that never got them any closer to God. Others find it necessary to go out and find another group of controlling and manipulative hucksters to join. People feel the need to follow others; and they trust very little in their own ability to discern the truth. They will join another cult or phony religious group; because they want to replace the ntcc who kicked them to the curb. While we believe that there are actually people who love God and worship together making up the church, we also realize that finding such a group of people is like trying to find a tribe of Eskimos living in frozen igloos in Death Valley, California. Salvation is personal; and if you are depending on someone else to feed and nurture you so that you can be a better Christian, good luck with that! You and you alone are responsible for your own salvation. People say they are set free; but they subject themselves to people that are in it for the money and power.<br />
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Apparently there are some in the ntcc that are openly talking about how they were at one time caught up in the rules of man. Over on Chief's blog there is a comment that references how Hunt is saying this and how that the attitude seems to be, "We've made mistakes; but can't we all just get along? Can't we forget about the people we've run off and the children whose lives we've ruined? Can't we just pretend that we never caused any misery in anyone's life?" They want you to think that as long as you forget the past and look the other way and continue to pay tithe and be a part of their program that everything will be alright. They might have a few thousand people fooled; but they aren't fooling God. These crooks are admitting that they did things wrong and that they are changing; but they are not attempting to make anything right with the ones that got kicked to the curb. So you want to know what a Christian is? Take a good look at the ntcc and you will find what a Christian is NOT.<br />
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Jones and his wife were seen several times in the Columbus area; and they were asked if they lived down there now. When asked this question, Jones' wife didn't answer, but looked at her husband; and he said no. Later it was found out that Jones bought a house in that area; and that he was using semantics in an all too familiar ntcc-way to be deceptive. Perhaps he doesn't live in Columbus, GA, but he lives in Phenix City, AL, across the river. Why are they afraid to be truthful? What are they trying to hide? When Kekel was asked by Bruce Smith about inappropriate premarital behavior with Tanya, he answered, "We never went there." Why do they use these types of weasel words when asked a simple question? When Kinson was confronted about leaving his wallet in a whore house, he didn't deny it. He didn't say, "No, absolutely not. I never stepped foot in a whore house and never left my wallet in one." Kinson in a weaselly way, responded: "It's not fornication if you use a condom." and "I've never slept with anyone other than my wife." What? We aren't talking about a snooze.<br />
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The ntcc leadership are masters of manipulation and deception. They are liars; and they are also thieves who cheat people out of their money by condemning them with twisted scriptures about Old Testament tithe. I watched a little bit of the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Benghazi_attack" target="_blank">Benghazi</a> hearings where Hillary Clinton was being asked about the four Americans (the U.S. ambassador, the U.S. Information Officer, and the two former Navy Seals who died trying to defend the Americans and the Embassy, but were all killed while Hillary watched on T.V. and did nothing to help them). Several times Hillary was asked yes or no questions; but she refused to respond with simple yes or no answers. She would try to insert something to try and make herself look good rather than answering truthfully; and she did so several times, in a very slick and sleazy way. Some on the investigating committee wouldn't allow her to get away with her weasel words. Bush Sr. once said, "Read my lips, No new taxes!" and compromised by raising taxes. This kind of behavior is commonplace among politicians and religious leaders. They feel they are above the law or untouchable.<br />
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So what is a Christian? Open the yellow pages and find the section that lists all of the churches in your area. Close your eyes and point to any one of the hundreds if not thousands of churches that are listed. Go to that church and there is a 99% chance that they will treat you nice; and they will eventually try to get you to be a part of their program; which often includes you opening your wallet and giving large amounts of money to them. They will teach you why their denomination is right and why all others are wrong. If you are unlucky enough to find a manipulative cult they will try to convince you that they are the only ones on earth who are preaching the truth and that if you want to make it to heaven, you will have to obey all their rules. In a cult like the ntcc you will find greed, you will find child molestation, you will find rape, you will find abuse, you will find lies, you will find cheating, you will find hate and you will find yourself broke and destitute of a normal life.<br />
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Or you could just read your bible which will tells you that a Christian is one who lives for Christ. A Christian is one who loves his brother, loves his neighbor, loves the poor, loves the blacks, whites, Puerto Ricans, sinners and saints, and that loves the Lord with all their heart and soul. The just shall live by faith. Open your bible to Mathew, Mark, Luke and John and you will find out how Jesus lived; and if you try to emulate the life of Christ, and live by His words, you can't go wrong. You don't need some preacher to introduce you to his program and try to tell you that you have to do things his way to make it to heaven. I don't care if you are a woman that wears pants and make up. If you love God and love your neighbor as yourself, you will fulfill the definition of a Christian. Jesus never took up offerings. Salvation is a free gift. The Pharisees were all about money and outward appearance while Jesus set the example of love by preaching and living a life of love. Jesus wants you just as you are, not as some preacher wants you to be. If you want to know what a Christian is and if you want to be one, don't trust some snake oil salesman with your salvation. Don't trust a religious hypocrite. Don't trust some religious nut case that wants you to get a vasectomy. Don't trust in a doctrine or a denomination. Don't even trust me. I'm not trying to get anyone to follow me or give to my cause. I would love to see you find freedom from religion. Trust in God and you will not be led astray. David was being hunted down by Saul about 17 years after he was promised to be the King of Israel. He and his men had their city burned and their wives and children were carried away by the Amalekites. He was greatly distressed and the people were talking about stoning him. David didn't run to Davis or Kekel to find the answers; but he encouraged himself in the Lord, got his family back and received God's promise a few days later. At the end of the day, you are responsible for your life; and to some degree you are also responsible for the life of your family. Your Christian walk is yours to deal with and so are the blessings and the consequences. <br />
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We are not saying that you should or should not attend church anywhere, but we are saying that you can't rely on someone else for your salvation. We believe that the bible is correct in Mathew 24:24, where Jesus said: "For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect." We also believe Mark 7:7 to be true: "Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men." David was too busy running for his life to attend church on every Sunday; but he was not too busy to worship the Lord and pray. While God's plan is simple, some make it hard by enforcing the letter of the law on others. Jesus died to free us from the ordinances of the Law and the Old Testament. He paid the price. You can't tithe your way into heaven. He died so you wouldn't have to. Jesus doesn't demand perfection, in fact he is our perfection. Jesus doesn't expect us to be like someone else, he wants us to be ourselves. People have made salvation and Christianity much harder than it has to be. When people add to or take away from God's word, they do it because they want you to be a part of their program which is designed to benefit them. They wouldn't have to add anything or take away anything if their interest was in pleasing God and being a Christian. You can make Christianity simple as it is written or you can make it more difficult. People make it more difficult because they don't want to follow God's simple plan. Love God with all your heart and love your neighbor as yourself. Everything else will fall into place if you keep these two simple commandments. And if you mess that up you can still go to the cross and ask for forgiveness; because that is also part of being a Christian. Jesus did everything else for you; so all you have to do is Love Him; and if you do this you are a Christian. <br />
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Seasons change and so do people; but God remains the same, except in the ntcc. In the ntcc there is also a season for everything. A time to love bomb and a time to hate. A time to gather up stones and a time to throw them at God's people. A time to marry and a time to divorce. A time to hide sins and a time to expose them. A time to collect tithe and a time to spend it. A time to share the truth and a time spin it into a lie. A time to build themselves up and a time to tear others down. A time for them to get rich and a time for others to get poor. A time to go soul winning and a time to cast those souls away. A time to trust and a time to betray. A time to play with minds and a time to play church. A time to pat someone on the back and a time to stab them in the back. A time to plow and a time to pluck up that which was plowed. <br />
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God's seasons are consistent and serve many useful purposes while the ntcc's seasons are erratic and serve only one purpose. God desires that all might be saved while the ntcc picks and chooses who to allow into their fold and who to cast out. God cares about the poor and sent His son to do miracles in their lives while the ntcc despises the poor and the only miracles that are performed are the ones that make your money disappear into a black hole. The years of your life continue to melt away while the wealth of the diabolical 'royal' families increases. <br />
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The standards are all subject to change. Davis declared the ntcc as God's chosen people who would stand in the gap and make up the hedge for an unchanging God in an ever changing world; but that was just a facade; because everything that Davis claimed to be standing for was destroyed when his scam was revealed by the blogs. The ntcc damage control campaigns could not change the underlying knowledge that Davis betrayed the people that he claimed to love. The voices of the those who Davis threw to the wolves have spoken out; and the ones who were cast aside as sinners are more righteous than rw ever was. Davis might have stuck to his guns until death; but when his hypocrisy, which was once hidden behind an outward cloak of man-made holiness, was revealed, he stepped down and installed Kekel as his heir apparent. The ntcc began to go downhill after the Denis split; because it exposed the double standards that were hidden for so long. The split was too big and the cuts were too deep to hide. Ever since the split, the graduating classes of the ntcc brainwashing academy have yielded less hirelings. <br />
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About that time Factnet came into being and people who were silenced all their spiritual lives were allowed to speak. The ntcc tried to defend its indefensible positions and even Kekel got in the fray by posting as the 'Whirlwind'; but the more they tried to stem the blood flow, the deeper the wounds became and the more blood was lost. The cold hard truth about the ntcc was out in public for everyone to see and now people knew that it was never about God. It was never about souls. It was never about love for one another; but it was about a select few greedy individuals scamming people out of their money. The ntcc was a cult from the get go. In the midst of this turmoil we find the true motives of the ntcc come to the surface. Kekel was the chosen one, chosen by Davis by virtue of his relationship with Tanya. Kekel is not good at many things, but he is great at spinning the truth and justifying the changes that were sure to come. In the midst of the turmoil Kekel was chosen to carry out the true plan and vision that Davis had and that was to continue to build a financial empire that would continually turn a profit and allow greed and power to overshadow the naive and gullible people who actually believed that Davis had an honorable cause. <br />
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It was time for change in the ntcc. There is no way that they could have kept the money flowing after being publicly exposed and humiliated on FACTnet. Who better to bring about change than Kekel, the master of disaster and spin? The man who tried to cover up the ntcc's past by using weasel words that downplayed the severity of the false Davis doctrines; referring to them as policies that were misinterpreted by the masses to have eternal consequences. While those very 'policies' were in effect the ntcc made no effort to stop the vasectomies. They made no effort to stop the divorces. They made no effort to own up to their own sins, but they allowed the charade to continue as people filled with guilt compensated for the falsely imposed condemnation by pouring out the contents of their bank accounts as an offering to the ones they thought represented God. How else could the ntcc keep the money flowing? Getting your money was their true purpose and intention. They were just hiding their lust behind the pulpits. <br />
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Those loyal to Davis were willing to turn a blind eye to his indiscretions and ignore all of the sexual improprieties. Surely these loyalists would follow the Kekels; would they not? The standards are all being openly compromised; which would never have been acceptable during the Davis regime. Compromise was fine in Davis' day; but it could never be open compromise! The blogs changed all that. Because the true motives of the ntcc leadership are continually being exposed and the holiness or hell doctrine is only used to drive unwanted threats like Danny Brill away from their families so their lives can't speak to the ntcc remnant. <br />
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Don't be surprised if more changes are brought about in the near future. In the midst of all this change, please don't be deceived by eyewash. The ntcc can be likened unto a stinking outhouse with a can of air freshener that mixes with the putrid smell in a futile attempt to mask it, only for the Mountain Mist scent to dissolve and be overpowered by the original stench of the outhouse's contents. This might seem like a vile comparison; but even the Bible speaks of such things; for Isaiah said all or our righteousness is as filthy rags; which is translated as menstrual cloths. The ntcc has given great occasion for the world to blaspheme God; because they have used God to obtain wealth - filthy lucre. They have sacrificed or slaughtered the weakest of the flock that they were charged with protecting just so they could gain more money. The only change that would make up for their treachery would be for the entire general board to step down and all of those who have profited or abused people to leave. This will never happen; because hardened criminals never repent in groups.<br />
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