eX-members' of ntcc Blogspot

A safe place for Xers to share their stories and heal.

A place to learn what it's really like in the ntcc founded by Rodger Wilson Davis;
and run by his son-in-law, Michael Craig Kekel,
the father of the one vasectomy-rule-exception kid in ntcc, Grant Davison Kekel.

Ezekiel 12:11

Say, I 'am' your sign: like as I have done, so shall it be done unto them: they shall remove 'and' go into captivity.

He Loves A House More Than God: Bonco Mansions of kekel (l) and davis (r)

He Loves A House More Than God:  Bonco Mansions of kekel (l) and davis (r)
"He loves a house more than God:" *Bonco* Mansions of kekel (l) and davis (r). Meanwhile, on the mission field: ntcc Missionaries to the Philippines "Rev. and Sis. Mackert ... found a place, 9 feet by 14 feet [9'x14'] and one bathroom. It is on the 6th floor and there is no elevator. The last place they had stayed, they had to share a common bathroom with the other tenants! Yikes! This place has their very own private bathroom, although the Rev. shared there is no seat on the throne, and no way to attach one…." from The Devonshire Files Sunday, May 28, 2006 Visit from the Mackerts (5/06). ** Should you know where the money ($$$$$) goes? **

Jesus In The Temple

Matt 21:12 And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves, Matt 21:13 And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.
Gal. 4:16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth? John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. 1 John 4:6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Skip To Blue Letter Bible Search Tool

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Wednesday, April 18, 2012

Spiritual Cellulose: NTCC Preaches "Another Gospel" with Very Little Nutritional Value

Many people say they go to church to get fed spiritually.  The church world is a lot like the food industry in the United States.  Each restaurant and fast food joint claims to have the best food or the best prices; and each uses many sales tactics to convince consumers to buy their products.  Many groceries that we buy are marketed in the same way:  "Free Range Chickens", "Free Range Eggs", "Freshly Squeezed Orange Juice" and "Premium USDA Inspected Beef" are a few among the many terms used by the food industry to con you into buying their products.  But the FDA has few restrictions when it comes to definitions of these terms being so loosely used.

For example, a "Free Range" chicken can mean a chicken which shares a grass barn with a million other chickens.  But those "Free Range" chickens are just like their "Free Range" eggs which are all harvested in the barn.  They're really not roaming the countryside freely, enjoying sun and air and nature.

Notice that the Roosters or
'Pastors' are the only ones
allowed anywhere near freedom.

And how do you get 100% "Freshly Squeezed" orange juice 365 days a year?  The OJ might be freshly squeezed; but after that it is put into sealed tanks.  All the oxygen is taken out of it; and there it sits for up to a year before it reaches the grocery store shelf.  And what they don't tell you is that everything that makes it taste like orange juice sunk to the bottom of the tank; so later on they mix in f'lavor packets' that are like perfume fragrances to make your 'freshly squeezed' orange drink, that's been stored for a year, once again taste like real "freshly squeezed" OJ!  They even have loopholes which are allowed by the FDA that do not require big companies like Minute Maid to list the ingredients of these mystery flavor packets on their packaging.

"USDA Inspected" is another term.  It seems reassuring; but in fact it means very little in the meat industry.  Buyers of meat look for the cheapest product to save their money; and the meat industry has been allowed to take the cheapest cuts of meat and market them as "USDA Choice".  70% of all hamburger patties are made by a company called Beef Products, Inc.  They use a process of 'cleaning' the beef with ammonia gas so that it can pass e-coli inspections;  that enables it to have the government's stamp of approval so 'Beef Products' Inc. can compete with the few companies that actually use prime cuts of meat.  Do you ever wonder why a 12 minute trip to Taco Bell carries the consequence of a 12 roll session in the restroom?  [Just Kidding!]

Taco Bell - It's Swell!
Only "USDA CHOICE" Beef
Used Here.  When you're
done flushing, yell
"ALL CLEAR!"

As a truck driver, I have delivered all types of products to places across the USA.  One such delivery was 'Food-Grade Paper'.  Packaged as huge rolls of paper that weigh almost 7,000 lbs per roll, this product was delivered to a food company that had a pulp processing plant.  Not understanding why this paper looked a little different I asked their receiving personnel what the paper was used for.  They explained to me that it was 'Food-Grade Paper'; and it was processed into pulp which was processed into powder and used as a cheap replacement for more expensive 'fillers' like flour and oils!  What?  It's not for packaging?  No.  It winds up in your food.  It has no nutritional value; and is listed in the ingredients of your favorite food as "Cellulose".  Notice the close correlation between the words "Cellulose" and "Cellulite" - that pesky body fat that accumulates around your middle-aged gut; giving you the appearance of a Dunlap tire 'coz your stomach done lapped over your belt!  ;-)

Which has more wood
in it, the Bread or the
Chopping Block?

Cellulose comes from wood pulp, and is processed into huge rolls of 'Food-Grade Paper' that is a little thicker than construction paper and fairly coarse.  It is then put in your food to stretch the ingredients.  It is filler.  I looked it up on the internet; but it is not something that is very well advertised.  I had to do quite a few searches to find it.  But it was on a website that had a list of "The 6 most horrifying lies the food industry is feeding you".

What If Starbucks Marketed Like A Church?  Video on YouTube


Unfortunately, much of the church world operates in a similar fashion; and the ntcc is one of the worst offenders of all.  The ntcc leadership advertises that they "preach a living Christ to a lost and dying world".  They share that their version of the gospel is "pure" and "unadulterated".  But in truth, what they do is very similar to what the food industry does.  The food industry convinces people that they have the best product; and that is exactly what the ntcc tries to do in the church world.  In fact the ntcc will try to  convince you that they have the market cornered.  They will convince you that you will not find what they have to offer anywhere else.  And in a very subtle way they will tell you that nobody offers what they have to offer.

The ntcc will tell you that "God raised up Davis because nobody else was preaching the truth.  Everyone else was compromising."  The same is true on a smaller scale in the local ntcc churches.  If you don't believe me, try going to another church, and see how your ntcc pastor reacts.  He will react just the way he was taught to react by Davis, Kekel and the rest of the ntcc leadership. "If the other churches were right with God, He wouldn't have raised the ntcc up in these last evil days as a bastion of righteousness and holiness".  The ntcc's version of holiness does not wash away greed, covetousness, adultery or the hate they preach and teach to their congregations.  What they fail to realize is that all their righteousness is as filthy rags (used menstrual cloths) before God.  They might feed you a line that there are other churches "out there" [sic] outside the weird "church behind the fence'.  But they will freak out if you go and visit one of those 'other' churches!  They will try to blame and manipulate you with mystical hogwash like, "If God saved you here, why would you go there?"  Well, I was born in a hospital, but I sure didn't grow up in one.  The ntcc is always telling X-ers to move on.  We'd like to encourage you "in-ers" to do the same. Move on out of that hospital where you were born-again and grow up in a healthy church environment where you are Spirit led, not on lock-down.  After all, hospitals are where you go when you are born, sick, or fixin' to die.  You don't want to spend your whole life there!

The ntcc uses an extremely emotional approach to appeal to people called "Love Bombing".  But then they use some very sleazy sales tactics to get them to buy off on their bill of goods.  They use a lot of "Fluff" to draw people in:  free dinners, free rides to church, smiles and hugs at the door.  But once they get their hooks in you, they begin to reveal some pretty disturbing rules they will try to call only 'policies' or 'doctrine'.  But just try ignoring or breaking those rules and see how well that goes over.  You will be blasted from the pulpit in a smear campaign designed to cut you off from the flock.  Unfortunately, their fear tactics have proven quite effective over the years.  The people you thought were your friends will start avoiding you.  You will be looked at in a very different light.  You've been marked and are on your way out.  In ntcc you are expected to conform to the rules of man or be cast off.

They also use advertising slogans like "A Church of All Nations"; but after you become one of them you start hearing nigger jokes.  Then they will say if that offends you, you must be wrong because "They that love the Lord, nothing will offend them."   That is ntcc's twisted version of Psa 119:165 which actually states:  "Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them."  First of all, they are misquoting that scripture.  And secondly, that scripture is not meant to be an excuse for them to sow discord, or use evil jesting.  They are really abusing that scripture to tell you that you can't be angry with their sin.  But the Word says to "be angry and sin not"  [Eph 4:26].  Plus, try applying their standard to them.  Walk up to Mikey Kekel and slap him on the back and say, "What's up, Mike?"  Then, when he turns red and tries to blast you say, "What?  You aren't OFFENDED; are you, Mike?  Because "They that love the LORD, nothing will offend them."  Or try walking into church and give Tanya Kekel one of those scathing head to toe look-overs like what she does to you to make you feel like your kook-store attire does not meet her standards.  Make sure you look disgusted or scornful when you do this to her.  See how she reacts to that.  Will she be a shining example of Christian love?  Or will she stamp her $400 dollar pair of heels and pout to Mikey so he can blast you and say "WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT?"  You see, in the ntcc there really is a double standard, a "do as I say, not as I do" hypocrisy that rules the 'leaders' actions.  They are hypocrites who preach one thing while demanding that you live a different thing.  They are like the food industry that promises something fresh; but in reality what you get has been sitting around getting stale.  They claim that they, and only they, "have the goods"; but what you are really getting is not %100 pure; instead it is full of man-made doctrines that are used as fillers to stretch the truth to fit their man-made agendas.  It's just a bunch of spiritual cellulose!

Another strategy ntcc uses to get the military involved is to promise them 'home cooked' meals; and they refer to their servicemen's homes as a "Home Away From Home"; but after you move in to their dysfunctional home, you must submit to all of their rules.  You first must pay tithe and give in offerings and pay a home offering and a separate food offering; you also must participate in every function every day and live according to ntcc's definition of holiness.  This in itself is bad enough, incorporating many non-scriptural man-made rules; but there are a lot of subtle and non-written rules you must also abide by; which all fall under their category of "Obey them that have the rule over you"; which can be found in Heb 13:17; but is largely abused by ntcc davis-wannabe megalomaniacs.  Did the author of Hebrews really intend for people to live in an environment where they have to obey some hypocritical, fault finding, micro managing, angry control freak?

The ntcc bible school, now called a cemetery, oops, seminary, slogan is "Preparing Youth with Truth in Holy Spirit Power".  I know this; because I tore the letter off of my high school letter jacket and sewed that big ugly yellow patch in it's place; because I was taught that pride was sinful and that displaying "a symbol of pride"  was wrong.  Well what's the difference between their patch or my High School's patch?  Does the ntcc really do what they claim?  Do they prepare youth with truth?  Let's see.  They teach bible school students that they can't be trusted to give another bible school student a ride in their car (even if their "oil-puking junker" is broken down on the side of the road) without first asking permission.  They teach them that they cannot fellowship with another brother or sister without ntcc's permission.  They can't borrow a plunger from another dorm without ntcc's permission.  Is all this based on truth?  Where in the Bible do you find that?  Is that the 13th commandment?  "Thou shalt not borrow thy neighbour's plunger unless pastor says so."  Let's continue.  They teach that it is a blessing to "scrub the toilet" of "the man of God", to clean their houses, and to clean their expensive cars and recreational vehicles and shine their shoes.  Is this all really preparing youth with truth?  Or is it teaching them to be slaves?  Meanwhile the board members relax with another drink and then fly out of town with nobody knowing where they are going or why.

What does the ntcc really have to offer its adherents that is good for their spiritual well being?  Most of what they offer is toxic; and they use a bunch of fillers and spiritual cellulose to make it all wash down.  "Preaching a Living Christ to a Lost and Dying World" sounds pretty good until you wake up decades later and realize that you are not only part of that dying world, but you have wasted the best years of your life by convincing others to follow a failed system that benefits a very few, while you witness others being trampled on for reasons that do not make any sense.  The ntcc needs a living Christ just as much if not more than the dying world that they preach to.  Their doctrine has run off more people than it has helped by far.  It's false advertising to say that you are the last move of God on planet earth and then treat people that you call your brother and sister like human excrement.  It's phony and hypocritical to live in luxury while expecting your members to foot the bill.  The bible is full of spiritual nutrition; but the ntcc causes it to be of no value when the leaders live contrary to the inflated advertisements they use to sell their gospel.

But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.  Gal 1:8

Sunday, April 8, 2012

Happy Easter from Ezekiel

As I read Ezekiel's message to Israel, I couldn't help but think how that much of what was written thousands of years ago, would apply to the church world today.  Chapters 33 and 34 of the book of Ezekiel encompass so much of what God's plan is all about.  Israel was in captivity; because they rejected God.  Ezekiel spoke to them by revelation; and many of his words can be heard today if we listen.  It's not all about judgement.  In fact God reaches out to any and all that will listen.

Ezekiel 33:2-4

Son of man, speak to the children of thy people, and say unto them, When I bring the sword upon a land, if the people of the land take a man of their coasts, and set him for their watchman:


If when he seeth the sword come upon the land, he blow the trumpet, and warn the people;


Then whosoever heareth the sound of the trumpet, and taketh not warning; if the sword come, and take him away, his blood shall be upon his own head.


People are warned; and if they do not choose to heed the warning their blood is upon their own head.  This is what is happening in the ntcc.  People are being warned to leave the ntcc.  The trumpet can be heard throughout the land.  Some people will listen; and others will not.  Those that don't listen cannot be helped.

Ezekiel 33:5-6

He heard the sound of the trumpet, and took not warning; his blood shall be upon him. But he that taketh warning shall deliver his soul.


But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take [any] person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman's hand.


There are people in the NTCC that are listening to the warnings;  and they are leaving in numbers.  This is great.  We are happy for folks that get out and find freedom from the aggressors.  We have heard from many folks that say, "Why don't you just let God deal with the ntcc?"  We've all heard it many times: "The X-ers are just bitter!"  I'm not making any sensational claims that God has called me to be a watchman and to warn the ntcc; but this task falls on anyone that does not wish to see people they love forced into bondage.  Anyone with common decency would desire to warn their fellow human being of any situation that would be harmful to them.  There are people in the ntcc that I consider to be Brothers and Sisters.  I love them as I would my own family.  We have taken it upon ourselves to warn others; because we know that what we went through in the ntcc was not of God.  It's the decent thing to do.

Ezekiel 33:11

Say unto them, [As] I live, saith the Lord GOD, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked; but that the wicked turn from his way and live: turn ye, turn ye from your evil ways; for why will ye die, O house of Israel?


The ntcc gives a person little or no hope.  When they tell folks that they are the last move of God on earth and they fill their minds with hypocritical rules and their hearts with false hope, they create boundaries and limitations that prevent Christians from being what God intended them to be.  God has no pleasure in the death of the wicked!!! But sometimes, I think, the ntcc does!  When someone like Kekel tells a man to "go ahead" and kill himself, you have to wonder!  When a heartless preacher says to his wife, "If you don't like it here, pack your bags and leave." to embarrass her in front of a congregation of "God's people" you have to ask yourself:  "Does this person take pleasure in being cruel?"

Ezekiel 33:18-19

When the righteous turneth from his righteousness, and committeth iniquity, he shall even die thereby.


But if the wicked turn from his wickedness, and do that which is lawful and right, he shall live thereby.


It's really that simple; but the ntcc complicates things so much.  According to the ntcc, if you leave the ntcc, you are leaving God;  and if you do not obey the ntcc pastor, you are disobeying God.  The scripture in this chapter gives people a lot more hope than the ntcc does.  If you turn to righteousness your sins will no longer be remembered.  It doesn't matter what you spent your whole life doing.  It's simple; and it applies to everyone.

I've heard more than one ntcc minister say:  "How can you burn the candle of life all the way down and then blow the smoke in God's face?"  Where do they get this? Where in the bible do you find God rejecting anyone that comes to Him?  They not only preach against deathbed repentance, but they also would have you to believe if you leave their ranks you are without hope.  There is hope for everyone.

Ezekiel Chapter 34 talks about the Shepherds of Israel.  They were the Pastors of the flock of Israel.  They were responsible for the well being of the people just as a Shepherd is responsible for the well being of the sheep.  Israel was misled by its Shepherds; and their leadership was corrupt.  Sound familiar?

Ezekiel 34:2-6

Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel, prophesy, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD unto the shepherds; Woe [be] to the shepherds of Israel that do feed themselves! should not the shepherds feed the flocks?


Ye eat the fat, and ye clothe you with the wool, ye kill them that are fed: [but] ye feed not the flock.


The diseased have ye not strengthened, neither have ye healed that which was sick, neither have ye bound up [that which was] broken, neither have ye brought again that which was driven away, neither have ye sought that which was lost; but with force and with cruelty have ye ruled them.


And they were scattered, because [there is] no shepherd: and they became meat to all the beasts of the field, when they were scattered.


My sheep wandered through all the mountains, and upon every high hill: yea, my flock was scattered upon all the face of the earth, and none did search or seek [after them].


The ntcc leadership at the highest levels is guilty of the same thing.  They eat the fat, and clothe themselves with the wool.  They kill those that are already fed, but they feed not the flock.  They don't concern themselves with the diseased, the sick, the broken or the poor.  In fact, they tell you not to even waste your time with the poor; because "You can't build a church with the poor!"  :-(

The ntcc rules with force and cruelty.  They run people off and they say, "Leave them alone".  Let them die and go to hell.  They don't bring back those that are driven away; and they don't seek the lost.  They only seek that which makes the Shepherd Hirelings  fat and happy.  The sheep have become scattered and are meat for the beasts of the field.


There are so many people that were neglected by the ntcc leadership.  They are scattered across all the hills and mountains. Do you think anyone in the ntcc cares about them anymore?  Many of us were scattered throughout the earth; and none came looking for us.  God is all about restoration!  A Pastor comes from the same Hebrew word that Shepherd comes from.  The ntcc leadership creates horrible so-called Pastors.  They don't care about the sheep; they care about themselves and what they get out of the deal.  When you leave, you are gone for good.  You made a choice according to them.  But we see that it was not the people but the Shepherds that scattered the people.  God wants them all back.

Ezekiel 34:7-10

Therefore, ye shepherds, hear the word of the LORD;


[As] I live, saith the Lord GOD, surely because my flock became a prey, and my flock became meat to every beast of the field, because [there was] no shepherd, neither did my shepherds search for my flock, but the shepherds fed themselves, and fed not my flock;


Therefore, O ye shepherds, hear the word of the LORD;


Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I [am] against the shepherds; and I will require my flock at their hand, and cause them to cease from feeding the flock; neither shall the shepherds feed themselves any more; for I will deliver my flock from their mouth, that they may not be meat for them.


There was no shepherd; because they fed themselves and not the flock; and not only that, they fed on the flock; and God said that He would deliver them from their mouth; that they be not meat for them.  God is against you, ntcc hirelings!  Because you are guilty of all the things that God spake of concerning the shepherds of Israel.  Don't get mad at us, get mad at Ezekiel, or get mad at God who inspired Ezekiel to write these words.  God is going to require His flock at your hands!  Because you have corrupted that which is pure and scattered God's people across the earth!  You have not sought them, nor tried to help them, but counted them as enemies.  You left many of them in helpless and hopeless situations to become meat for the beasts of the field.

Ezekiel 34:11-16
 I will seek My Sheep.
For thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I, [even] I, will both search my sheep, and seek them out.


As a shepherd seeketh out his flock in the day that he is among his sheep [that are] scattered; so will I seek out my sheep, and will deliver them out of all places where they have been scattered in the cloudy and dark day.


And I will bring them out from the people, and gather them from the countries, and will bring them to their own land, and feed them upon the mountains of Israel by the rivers, and in all the inhabited places of the country.


I will feed them in a good pasture, and upon the high mountains of Israel shall their fold be: there shall they lie in a good fold, and [in] a fat pasture shall they feed upon the mountains of Israel.


I will feed my flock, and I will cause them to lie down, saith the Lord GOD.


I will seek that which was lost, and bring again that which was driven away, and will bind up [that which was] broken, and will strengthen that which was sick: but I will destroy the fat and the strong; I will feed them with judgment.


Great news for those who were scattered.  I believe this with all my heart; that God loves X-ers and does not wish for any of us to perish.  I know that God cared enough for me to find me in my lost and broken condition.  I was diseased, broken, lost, hurt, offended and suffering in anguish, thinking that there was no hope for me, ever.  Ezekiel speaks to us all, not just to Israel.  This is how God is; and this is what God does.  It's wonderful; and I'm not going to shut up about it.

HE's Alive - Easter Video by Don Francisco


God is all about restoration!

A good Shepherd will leave the 99 and seek out that one lost sheep that has gone astray!  God is not like the hirelings that feed off the fat of the land and trample under foot the good.  They have corrupted that which is left.  They have drank of the deep waters and fouled them for everyone else.  They have eaten of the good of the land and trampled everything down for everyone else.

There is hope for the hopeless; and Ezekiel speaks of it.  Happy Easter!!!!!  The river is deep and wide; and the land flourishes because of what we celebrate on this day.  Jesus is alive!  And He is alive for all of us.  We don't have to settle for the ntcc scraps that are left for us under the table.  There is rest for the weary.  Don't let others get rich off of your labors while they beat you down and leave you with nothing.  That's not love; and that's not what God is all about.

In spite of everything they tell you, there are good and decent people out there that care about others.  They might be few and far in between, but I don't think so.  I know there are churches with pastors that care about people and put the welfare of those people above that of their own.  If they are not servants of all steer clear of them.  If they want you to wait on them, shine their shoes, clean their recreational vehicles and pay their salaries while they live high on the hog, they are hirelings; and they do not care for the sheep or you.

God will make a way; and when He comes to find you, no matter where you are, what you have done, or what state you are in, allow Him to heal your broken soul.


Sunday, March 11, 2012

Johnny Jordan Sex-Offender

Johnny Jordan
sex offender
Florida mugshot
Johnny Dean Jordan, the brother of George Jordan, (Timothy) Paul Jordan, Barry Jordan, and their sister Anita, was also a member of the ntcc in the 70's and 80's.  He worked for years for  the ntcc under ntcc President, Roger Wilson Davis, and was married to the daughter of a prominent ntcc woman who remains with the org today.

We are leaving Johnny's wife's name out on purpose although some are privy to this info.  Johnny Jordan served 30 months of a six year term in a Florida prison for coercing a child to commit sexual acts.  This offense took place in 1992.  In November of 2009 and after subsequent non-compliance violations, including having a concealed weapon with ammo and failure to comply with sex offender re-register guidelines, he was again convicted on 4 separate counts.  He is currently incarcerated; and his release date is registered as 06/03/2012.

These known violations took place after Johnny Jordan was in the ntcc.  But how many took place when he was in ntcc that we don't yet know about?  Dirty old men don't start out old, but do have long lives of offenses before they are caught.  When did Johnny Jordan begin committing sex crimes?  What did ntcc do to help him?  From what we see, ntcc did not help him.  Because the ntcc leaders, in our opinion, are either enablers who hide sex offenders or are themselves guilty of sexual misconduct, as alleged about Davis.  Just look at how ntcc hid convicted child rapist Michael Fontenot (Story Link).  And now we see the same pattern with Johnny Jordan.

There are some very disconcerting details of Johnny Jordan's actions while in the ntcc that reveal his true character.  It was while he was in the ntcc that his wife came to him for help and confided in him that Rodger Wilson Davis had sexually violated her.  Johnny did not believe her.  She also went to then-time ntcc CEO Joseph H. Olson for help and was told to attend a different church.  She also went to her mother,  who was in the ntcc since 1969, for help and was told:  Why would Davis do this to you when there are so many pretty women that he could have?

We can't imagine how much hurt and pain this young girl went through!  Our views on this are that this woman suffered terribly for trying to get help and for reporting Davis' sexual misconduct.  And that was just the beginning of her sorrows.  We feel she was victimized by her mother, her husband, the ntcc CEO (Olson), and the ntcc President Rodger Davis.  Our opinion is that as a reward for covering up Davis' illicit affair with this young girl, ntcc returned the favor and covered up Johnny Jordan's record of sex offense.

When this dude gets out of prison, it's possible he can end up right back in the ntcc community as others have - like Michael Fontenot.  Johnny Jordan too could again become a danger to the ntcc children.  How many people already had him in their homes and trusted him around their children?  After all, two of his brothers have elevated positions as staff members of the ntcc.  Naturally folks would be more prone to not think twice about trusting such a man.  And statistically speaking, it is most likely Johnny Jordan was committing sex crimes from his adolescence, as is common of sex offenders.

**  UPDATE  **
Another story has come to light involving the abuse of ntcc  children:  Johnny Jordan raped a 14 year old girl.  The mother of this 14 year old girl, in the ntcc, did not believe her.  Rodger Wilson Davis also refused to believe her (in front of the mother) thus preventing police involvement; Davis did so to cover his own tracks, to hide Rodger Davis' own illicit sexual involvement with another young woman.  RWD's solution for this tragic sexual violation and rape of a child was to move Johnny Jordan to Washington.  


Our opinion of this story: We believe this story that was shared under conditions of anonymity. Unfortunately it fits an all too familiar pattern in the ntcc. When allegations of adultery were made against Davis in his previous church, Pop Gaylord told Davis to get out of town until things cooled down. Now we see Davis using that same technique in this 14 year old girl's story. Davis moved the raped girl's mother and Johnny Jordan out of St. Louis in order to let things cool down. We also saw Davis use this technique with Nichelle Tieman ~ moving their family to Portland, Oregon to hide her adulterous affairs. The pattern is way too familiar. The cycle of ntcc abuse started with its inception and has doubtless continued over four decades.

But even if Johnny Jordan wasn't caught until he left ntcc, it raises the question, what on earth is going on in the ntcc?  When people leave other normal churches do they have the same ratio of sex offenders, adulterers, homosexuals and child molesters as the ntcc has?  Do people start blogs when they leave the Baptist or Methodist churches, warning people to steer clear of them and telling story after story of the horrible things they went through as their result of trying to be a Christian inside of their corrupt organizations?  We haven't seen that.

In our lives we've never seen an environment that is as bad as the ntcc; where people were so prone to become sexually deviant.  There are so many divorces, so many adulterous relationships, instances of homosexuality, reports of rape, incest and molestation, sexual offenders, murder, triple murder suicide and the list goes on.  We  would venture to say that this stuff does not happen in the same percentages and ratios in other churches but does happen in cults like ntcc.

Do you still wonder why we warn people to leave the ntcc?  They preach against every other church and mock them for their religion while the ntcc leaders are the worst offenders of all.  They have a track record and a list a mile long of wrong doing, with no accountability and no financial disclosure, while a select few elite and pompous leaders are living large, with no want of anything, exploiting people in every way imaginable, answerable to no one on this planet Earth.  Maybe if this stuff gets out in the public they will curb their appetites for sexual gratification; or at least they will think about consequences a little harder before they take advantage of people.  Our guess is that as long as they can get away with this stuff, they will continue their exploitation and abuse of good people; and as long as they can benefit from a system that relies on people keeping information suppressed because of fear of reprisal or embarrassment, the outrageous behavior will continue.  

Corrections Offender Network

Inmate Population Information Detail

(This information was current as of 3/4/2012)

DC Number:                 774815 
Name:                         JORDAN, JOHNNY D
Race:                           WHITE
Sex:                             MALE
Hair Color:                  BROWN 
Eye Color:                   BROWN
Height:                        5'06'' 
Weight:                       156 lbs. 
Birth Date:                  10/23/1962 
Initial Receipt Date:    12/08/2009 
Current Facility:          BAY C.F.
Current Custody:         MEDIUM 
Current Release Date: 06/03/2012 

(Release Date subject to change pending gain time award, gain time forfeiture, or review. A 'TO BE SET' Release Date is to be established pending review.)



Aliases:
JOHNNY JORDANJOHNNY D JORDAN
JOHNNY DEAN JORDAN


Scars, Marks, and Tattoos:
TypeLocationDescription
TATTOOLEFT ARMCHRISTIE
TATTOOLEFT CHESTSCORPION


Current Prison Sentence History:
Offense DateOffenseSentence DateCountyCase No.Prison Sentence Length
12/31/2007SX OFFNDR FAIL COMPLY PSIA11/05/2009GADSDEN08000293Y 0M 0D
04/01/2008SX.OFNDR.RE-REGISTR.VIOL.11/05/2009GADSDEN08003033Y 0M 0D
05/01/2007FEL/DELI W/GUN/CONC WPN/AMMO11/05/2009GADSDEN08003103Y 0M 0D
10/23/2008SX.OFNDR.RE-REGISTR.VIOL.11/05/2009GADSDEN08005613Y 0M 0D


Note: The offense descriptions are truncated and do not necessarily reflect the crime of conviction. Please refer to the court documents or the Florida Statutes for further information or definition.
Incarceration History:
Date In-CustodyDate Out-of-Custody
01/18/199406/05/1996
12/08/2009Currently Incarcerated


Prior Prison History: (Note: Data reflected covers periods of incarceration with the Florida Dept.of Corrections since January of 1983)
Offense DateOffenseSentence DateCountyCase No.Prison Sentence Length
08/01/1992SEX ACT COERCE CHILD BY ADULT01/12/1994GADSDEN93004786Y 0M 0D




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How ntcc Works and Why:

It has been our position that the reason the ntcc has been so strict and that they have had so many rules is because the leaders do not trust folks to do what's right; because the leaders know if they were in that position, they would do the wrong things.  For example, the reason why RWD has to give you permission to talk to another woman or to be around another woman is because he himself can not be trusted in a similar situation.  He knows if he were allowed to be alone with a woman that he would try to seduce her and he would use money, twist scriptures to justify it and do anything in his power to achieve his selfish gratification.

The psychological effect of what the ntcc leadership has created, in my opinion, has fostered an environment where sexual misconduct is rampant and flourishing in the ntcc.  The ntcc has a history of adultery, fornication, homosexuality, child molestation and child rape in addition to all of their history of financial impropriety and physical, mental, emotional and spiritual abuse.

What makes it all even worse is that ntcc covers up the abuse.
I have been totally forthcoming about my experiences in the ntcc and have included names:


My ntcc Experience:
Don (center) as a
fresh-faced kid &
another victim of
ntcc sex abuses
I was a victim of sexual abuse in the ntcc while still in my teens, at my first permanent duty assignment in the Army, where two ntcc Pastors and Servicemen's home directors abused their position of trust and used the servicemen's home as an environment to abuse myself and others for their own sexual gratification.  There were other members to include a married brother and a future ntcc minister, who were also involved.  But they  have not admitted so publicly; after all, who wants to come out and admit this kind of thing happening to them?  While technically I was legally an adult,  emotionally I was still an adolescent and couldn't fully comprehend or understand what I was going through.  After enduring this abuse and repenting of my involvement in what had taken place at Ft. Bragg, I sought normalcy and true Christianity in the ntcc.  Eventually I learned to trust God even though I did not fully understand what I had been through.  While in Korea, a third pastor made sexual advances towards me; but I did not allow that man to use me the way the others did.  I outed him the first time he attempted to involve me in a perverted homosexual act for his own self gratification.

I had been in the ntcc for seven years when I arrived at Ft. Carson; and for some reason it seemed like everything I was involved in was prospering.  I had everything a person could want except for a wife; and I longed for a wife.  At 25 years old, I was an E-6 on flight status making good money; but I was still in subjection to a bunch of rules that prohibited me from having one thing that I really wanted:  a normal marital relationship with a wife and family of my own.  I had previously been told by ntcc ministers that I couldn't talk to certain women that were earmarked for bible school; which if you were not earmarked for bible school there was something wrong with you.  In the prime of my life when I was suffering in ntcc imposed celibacy, the pastor's wife, (Nichelle Tieman) started making sexual advances towards me.  At the first stages of this adulterous encounter, I failed (He that looketh on a woman to lust, hath committed adultery in his mind).  It actually went further than lust (touching and caressing);  but we didn't go all the way.  I wanted a relationship so bad, but not at the expense of throwing away my salvation; so I repented for my involvement in this also, and put an end to it by refusing future unwanted sexual advances and eventually reporting it to the ntcc leadership (Pop Gaylord).

I looked at this as an overcoming victory and was thankful that I made the right decision.  I then found myself in a perfect situation where I worked with a very attractive woman that was my same age; and we connected immediately.  I eventually got her out to church; and we were seeing a lot of each other at work and at the servicemen's home.  We enjoyed being around each other; and we talked about marriage and our futures which we thought could only be in the ntcc.

It was at this time that the unthinkable happened and our perfect situation was destroyed by the ntcc.  I've mentioned all of this earlier; and I'm not trying to beat a dead horse here; but I was totally devastated.  Everything seemed to slowly go down hill from this point; and after going through the ntcc motions for 6 more years I left, just about as messed up in the head as you can be.  You know the story, as we have shared it more than once.  That woman was Ange and after 20 years of separation we are now happily married for going on 2 years.  I'm saying all of this and rehashing it again so that people will understand why we are doing this story.


The hierarchy of the ntcc don't admit to their improprieties; and they try to hide their sin by covering it up.  Another sad but true story has emerged out of the sordid past of ntcc leadership; and I know that people are going to think that we are glorying in this stuff; and that we are evil for bringing this stuff up.  But that is not true.  What is true is that people need to know what the ntcc is all about and how they ruin peoples lives.

People that are still in the organization need to know this stuff, so they can protect their loved ones to include their children from future encounters with these people and their deviant behavior.  People who are not in the ntcc need to heed the warning to avoid this group that has a proven track record of fostering and hiding abusers like Michael Fontenot [story link].

We take no pleasure in these true stories but feel that people need to know this stuff.  Don't get mad at us, the messengers; but rather if you are going to be angry with someone, direct your anger to the perpetrators of this misconduct that committed the abuse and also to those that have been enabling it and covering it up for years.

Related Post:
Watch Out -- He's Out
Johnny Dean Jordan, convicted sex-offender
Released June 03, 2012

Saturday, September 10, 2011

Google Satellite Image of New Testament Christian Churches of America National Campground

Google Satellite Image Of NTCC National Campground Near Mexico, Missouri:
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It's conference time (again)!

Our Theme This Time:

  • We Are Winning
  • Whatever It Takes
  • No Compromise
Oops.  Can't use "No Compromise" anymore...  Instead, we will use what Phil Kinson said when he was caught at that whore house in Japan:  "It's not adultery if you wear a condom."  Now THAT'S a ntcc  conference theme!  And in light of the new and revised compromise, let's rewrite the ntcc bylaw that prohibits adulterers from being on the board, to clearly state what really happens in the ntcc:

Thou shalt not hold a board member position in this organization unless you or your wife or both are clearly guilty of adultery or child molestation, gossip, petty larceny, grand larceny, breaking up others' marriages, match making others' marriages, relationship manipulation, abuse of the workers, or the condoning of such behavior in other board members' lives, etc., etc., etc. [*cough*]. 

Tuesday, July 26, 2011

A Few Words to the Wise

Good Morning all!  We just wanted to share a few scriptures with the ntcc leadership this morning.  We sincerely hope that if the shoe fits you will put it on.


Luke 11:42


"But woe unto you, Pharisees! for ye tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and PASS OVER JUDGMENT AND THE LOVE OF GOD: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone."


Luke 11:44


"Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are as GRAVES WHICH APPEAR NOT, and the men that walk over [them] ARE NOT AWARE [of them]."


Luke 12:33-34


"Sell that ye have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth. For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also."


Is there anyone that can find it in their heart to repent?  First you have to admit to corruption.  I am not perfect but I have been honest with the followers of this blog and with God.  Can you honestly look at the scriptures above and say that you say that your treasures are in heaven?  Can you disregard all of what Jesus said and taught about the poor, the widow and the orphan and continue to heap riches to yourselves?  Can you honestly take part in the double standards and hypocrisy that you know exists in the ntcc?  


We are not here to condemn everyone that continues with the ntcc.  We do warn people of the dangers that are present in the ntcc and any other cult.  It's the right thing to do.  Minds are being controlled by fear; and people defy common sense because of feelings.  People in other cults have the exact same feelings that you have.  They too feel God present in their lives.  God honors His word.  When you put God before everything in your life you will feel God.  


This is where common sense has to overcome the greed of a few leaders.  Let's look at the facts:


1.  The ntcc is built upon extreme sacrifice of many to benefit a few.


2.  Large amounts of the money you give go to making the Davis and Kekel families rich.  Was Jesus or any of His disciples rich with the treasures of this world?  


3.  Have you ever seen the Kekel or Davis families do any of the things they require of you?  How many doors have you seen them knock on?  How many times have you seen them sacrificing for the work of God?  They will tell you they have.  


4.  Where is the love of God toward the brethren?  When someone leaves the church they are forgotten.  NTCC never leaves the 99 to go after the 1.  Then they speak evil of those that leave and you listen not even wanting to hear why.


5.  If you ask a question concerning other churches, why is there a negative response ?  And why is every other church considered to be teaching false doctrine except for the ntcc?  Why is it so hard to see the double standards which exist in the ntcc?  You need to take the beam out of your own eye so you can see clearly to cast the mote out of your brother's eye.  


6.  Why do Christians in the ntcc allow fear to motivate them to do things that defy common sense?  Why would you not be allowed to communicate with people in other ntcc churches, or have fellowship meetings without an overseer present?  


There are many other questions you can ask yourself; but because of fear many people in the ntcc continue to contribute their time and money to an organization that is more corrupt than most of the cults ntcc teaches against publicly.  Many leaders have seen this and left ntcc; because they could not continue in good conscience knowing what they know.  Many of them are warning you and their leaders of the destructive nature of the ntcc.  Many are contemplating but are still afraid that they can not have salvation or a reality in God outside of the ntcc.  Many are so filled with ntcc doctrine and have invested so much in the ntcc that they have nothing on the outside to fall back on.  This is where you have to trust Jesus and do the right thing.  Let your mind heal and get out from under the cloud of condemnation that you live under.  


Right is right and wrong is wrong.  God's plan is not meant to be any more difficult than we make it.  


DnA

Saturday, April 23, 2011

What About ntcc's Becky and John R.?

In a post on Jeff's blog an anonymous commenter posted the following comment:

What do you make of people like J P [R] and his wife Becky? I spent a lot of time with them in the mid-80's and I am certain they were very decent people who loved God. I wonder how can they stay in the NTCC organization? (I could name other very decent Pastors in the organisation) comment link

We answered with the following response:

I spent time with Becky and John [R] in Hawaii a couple of times while on leave from Korea. They were very nice folks and didn't seem to have the same judgmental attitude towards folks as others in the ntcc had. While I was on vacation, they showed me around the island; and we actually had a real good time. They didn't spend every waking moment lamenting over lost souls and stumping for tithes and offerings.



Lately I have had Becky and John R. on my mind and have been wanting to do this post for a while. In the short time that I spent with them they made a lasting impression; and most what I remember was good. They had what seemed to be real love in their hearts for people; and I never got the feeling that they were in it for the money. There were a few other couples in the ministry that left me with similar memories.

Maybe because I didn't spend much time around them I didn't see the side of them that seems to be in most of the ntcc leadership.  Maybe they are just good people that love God and are making the best out of a very bad situation.  It was mentioned by Jeff and others that Becky and John R. must have turned a blind eye to much of what went on in the ntcc.  They also no longer communicate with their family to include Deborah and Gregory.  This came about because mike kekel showed private letters to Becky and John R. that were written between Gregory S. and mck.  Not only was this a breach of confidence but was used to sow discord among brethren and to drive a wedge between lifelong family bonds.  This is proof that when people leave the ntcc they are no longer considered to be in good standing with God.  We have often made reference to the ntcc claims that they are God's last move on earth and that the ntcc thinks they are the only true church on planet earth.  These actions substantiate these claims and vindicate those that have been wrongfully cast away by the leaders of the ntcc.

Here is what I think.  In my own experience there are many folks in the ntcc that are just like we were.  Do you remember the days when all you cared about was living for God?  Do you remember when you were young and impressionable and would do anything to please God and the men and women that you thought were there to help you along the way in your life for God?  But ntcc perverted the gospel and used us.  We gave everything we had to them until there was nothing else to give.  They broke us down until we had no willpower left; and when we were no longer of any use to ntcc, they kicked us to the curb.

At one time we drew a line and said we would never cross it.  Then we saw it crossed by others in the ntcc; and in time we moved that line.  It reminds me of how lawyers start out:  Wanting to make a difference in the world.  They start out on fire and want to practice law to help people; and soon they find out that to win a case they have to misrepresent the facts.  To help a client they find themselves violating ethical practices that they never dreamed of violating.  Pretty soon they become farther and farther away from what they know is right; and it becomes common practice to lie and use deceit to win a case.

This is what the ntcc does to people.  There are still good people that have been trapped in that cult for decades and John and Becky R. may be among them.  Sometimes  we find ourselves guilty of having an "Us against Them" attitude; and in our zeal to expose the ntcc,  we don't recognize the fact that many ministers are caught up in the same hopeless situation we were caught up in.  There are many in the ntcc that we still respect and love.   We care enough to warn them and hope they eventually find their way out.  It's the establishment and the leadership of the same that we hate.   I can only imagine what some of the old-timers think when they see the blatant hypocrisy and double standards in Graham, Washington.  What can they do?  Many are now in their 50's and 60's and have very few options and even less money.  They see that the line of compromise has moved.  Standards have changed, 'holiness' has pretty much been thrown out the window; and everything that these ministers once stood for is virtually gone.

 ntcc's Becky and John R. 
To Becky and John R.,  maybe it is not my place to say this to them; but if John and Becky happen across this post I would like to make one suggestion to you.  Get back in touch with your family.  I'm sure they love you more than the folks in Graham.   They say that blood is thicker than water; and I say it is not a sin to love your families.   Some might say, "Who are you to give the [Becky and John R.] advice"?  I'm nobody.  Just an old friend.

Don and Ange

P.S.  Link to ntcc photo of Becky and John R.

While researching the proper way to make the plural form of the name R-s, we came upon this gem:

When a family name (a proper noun) is pluralized, we almost always simply add an "s." So we go to visit the Smiths, the Kennedys, the Grays, etc.When a family name ends in s, x, ch, sh, or z, however, we form the plural by added -es, as in the Marches, the Joneses, the Maddoxes, the Bushes, the R-zes. Do not form a family name plural by using an apostrophe; that device is reserved for creating possessive forms.

When a proper noun ends in an "s" with a hard "z" sound, we don't add any ending to form the plural: "The Chambers are coming to dinner" (not the Chamberses); "The Hodges used to live here" (not the Hodgeses). There are exceptions even to this: we say "The Joneses are coming over," and we'd probably write "The Stevenses are coming, too."  A modest proposal: women whose last names end in "s" (pronounced "z") should marry and take the names of men whose last names do not end with that sound, and eventually this problem will disappear. 
  Source link.

This reminds me of Becky and John telling me that when they got married, the "s" on John's last name had to kick the "z" out of Becky's maiden name.  Boot to the "z" ;~} 

Sunday, February 27, 2011

Married Children in the ntcc

What is it with the leadership of the ntcc and their desire to marry off their daughters before they are of age?  I wracked my brain with this question and finally a light bulb came on.

The reason that the ntcc does this is because they know when that girl turns 18 and has the right to make her own decisions, that she is going to "choose the world" over marrying a 28 year old drooling man and being a barefoot-and-barren-in-the-kitchen cult member for the rest of her life.  Who in their right mind would choose that for themselves?

If you look at the mortality rate for kids in the ntcc, it is somewhere in the high 90's percentile.  I'm referring to them leaving the ntcc and becoming dead to their parents and the ntcc leadership.  How many of the ntcc preachers' kids have grown up in that cult and chosen to stay after turning 18?  Does anyone know of any besides the females that are married off in their mid-teens?  There might be some, but very few.  What kind of testimony is it that if these ministers that are involved in God's so called "last move on earth", can not even get their family members into heaven?

The solution for this problem was figured out by none other than rwd who experimented with his own daughter.  Perhaps she was rebelling against the holiness doctrine as she does to this day. The so called Holiness Doctrine was only used as a tool to keep people in line, and to control and manipulate them.  Whatever, the reason, rwd sought him out a man, several years older than his mid teenage daughter to intervene so that his daughter would not jump ship when the time came to make that decision for herself.  If we as adults could not think for ourselves, how much more would a 15 or 16 year old girl not be able to resist the "advice" of rwd or johnson or olson or anyone else in that authoritative position?

Tanya was to be the Incubator for one Grant Kekel, the heir apparent to the throne of the ntcc.  I can only imagine that when Tanya Kekel was in her early teens, rwd sought out and found a man with like morals and unscrupulous character that could marry his daughter a day after her 17th birthday and take over a corrupt organization that would be able to keep the cult intact while transitioning it into compromise.   While Grant Kekel is off at secular college living the life of an ordinary 'sinner', which is what we would have been classified as back in the day if we went to secular college or played football and participated in all the activities that went along with that, rwd and mike kekel are continuing to do what they do best and that is build a financial empire while manipulating people for financial gain.

Saturday, February 26, 2011

kinson, kinson, you too have sinned...

 phil kinson leans 
 in to kiss and grope 
 underage debbie johnson 
phil kinson a child molester? By his own admission back-in-the-day, YES:


In this thread we look at two comments, one made by Angela R on a Dispatch article by Bruce Smith. And another made by Vic Johanson, a former NTCC Pastor and Instructor at the Seminary of the New Testament Christian Churches of America, Inc. (NTCS).

First, let's look at the comment Angela R left on the Dispatch:
M. C. Kekel and Phil Kinson in one photograph?


That is priceless!

When these two were in the New Testament Christian Church Bible School in St. Louis [called the Midwestern Bible Institute (MBI)], kekel and kinson were bragging about groping under-aged girls they were 'dating'.  blech.

Kekel's 'girlfriend' was 14-16 years old. 

Kinson's even younger.

Kekel was 23-25 years old.

Two other men, Vic Johanson, and an anonymous man, "remonstrated" with Kekel and Kinson, who said they would not stop.

The anonymous man complained to R. W. Davis who was the NTCC founder, Bible College Dean, and father of one of the girls; but nothing ever came of it.

In a normal environment Kekel and Kinson would have been put on the

sex offender's registry

for sexual assault on minors.


Not in ntcc.

NTCC PROMOTED Kekel to be the CEO OF NTCC and Kinson to pastor the largest church in the NTCC.


How sick!

All under-age girls in ntcc are seen as targets, ready to be married off as soon as their bodies are capable of bearing children or those "pesky laws of man" allow whichever comes first.

Don't let the humble-pie act fool you. These guys are sick wolves in sheep's clothing.

The only photo kekel and kinson should be in is a mug shot for pervs on the sex offender registry!


The comment above by Angela R was based on information shared by Vic Johanson in a comment on Deb and Greg's blog, New Testament Christian Church... Deborah's Witness.  Here are some excerpts from  Vic's comment:

Mike Kekel told me that he was making out and groping Tanya [davis]. I heard it myself, and so did another brother, who was so disturbed about it that he went to RW [davis] and told him about it. ...
Was she 14 then? ... 15 or 16 is more likely, but ... even a 16 year old being pawed by a man who is 25 is considered creepy by most people.
Phil Kinson simultaneously admitted to the same activity with Debbie Johnson (who was even younger). The thing that disturbed us the most was that when we remonstrated with them about what they were doing, they got defensive and told us right upfront that they didn't plan on repenting. That sent the other brother over the edge, so he narked them out. But nothing came of it, and they're big wheels in the org now.

[Block quoted material is from a comment by Vic Johanson, former ntcc pastor, and former instructor at New Testament Christian Seminary of the New Testament Christian Churches of America, Inc., headquartered in Graham, Washington, with deep roots in St. Louis, Missouri.]
phil kinson and his wife debbie johnson (yes the General Overseer's daughter "emphatically deny" that this "groping" happened...  was phil lying then to Vic Johanson; or are the kinson's lying now to Bruce Smith, the reporter for the Dispatch, when he questions them about these events? 

If phil kinson lied when he "simultaneously admitted to the same activity with Debbie Johnson (who was "even younger" [than 14-16 years])" then phil kinson is guilty of lying to Vic Johanson and the "other brother"; who was so sure that kinson and kekel were telling the truth while boasting of their "groping" these underage daughters of ntcc board members that this "other brother" actually reported the matter to rodger w. davis, "But nothing came of it, and they're big wheels in the org now."

So either LYING about sexual conquest of underage girls or ENGAGING in the sexual conquest of underage girls is a fast-track to getting promoted to the top of the ntcc pyramid!

Let's look at how most people respond to an adult male who approaches a 13 year old girl about "marriage" and sex:

Mom Saves Daughter From Child Molester - Link

This article appeared in "The Stir" an online forum for Cafe Moms.

In it, a 13 year old girl is approached by an adult male who tries to woo her. She wisely runs home to mom. In ntcc, the mom would pat her hand and tell her it's okay to marry young, Pastor Davis said so. But in the real world, any man approaching a 13 year old girl would be in big trouble. Click the link and read the article:

"Mom Saves Daughter From Child Molester"

Also, watch the News Report Video Link:

According to the video, this arrested man had said:  "I want to marry the redhead."  When the young girl's mother told him she was only 13, he replied,

"I don't care.  Will somebody sign a paper so I can marry her?"  **That sounds just like the ntcc borg, where twenty-something year-old ministers "court/date" and marry[!!] teenage minor girls and have to go to Missouri where they can marry a girl of 16 years of age if her parents sign a permission slip!**

According to police:  "The guy told the officers ... he wanted to marry this 13 year old girl ... this child."

Do you really want to entrust the keeping of your souls to men like davis, kekel, and kinson who have such screwy ethics that they think it's okay for twenty-something year-od men to date, kiss, and grope young teenage minor girls?


Haven't we all been taught that "little things matter"?

Groping a young girl when you are an adult man is a BIG THING!

Why be part of an organization that promotes child molesters?

Think about it.

Update:

Now we see the cycle of abuse continues and ntcc once again promotes Phil Kinson after he is caught coming out of a whore house in Japan:



Phil Kinson's Adultery Impacts Moreno Murders: click here

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