eX-members' of ntcc Blogspot

A safe place for Xers to share their stories and heal.

A place to learn what it's really like in the ntcc founded by Rodger Wilson Davis;
and run by his son-in-law, Michael Craig Kekel,
the father of the one vasectomy-rule-exception kid in ntcc, Grant Davison Kekel.

Ezekiel 12:11

Say, I 'am' your sign: like as I have done, so shall it be done unto them: they shall remove 'and' go into captivity.

He Loves A House More Than God: Bonco Mansions of kekel (l) and davis (r)

He Loves A House More Than God:  Bonco Mansions of kekel (l) and davis (r)
"He loves a house more than God:" *Bonco* Mansions of kekel (l) and davis (r). Meanwhile, on the mission field: ntcc Missionaries to the Philippines "Rev. and Sis. Mackert ... found a place, 9 feet by 14 feet [9'x14'] and one bathroom. It is on the 6th floor and there is no elevator. The last place they had stayed, they had to share a common bathroom with the other tenants! Yikes! This place has their very own private bathroom, although the Rev. shared there is no seat on the throne, and no way to attach one…." from The Devonshire Files Sunday, May 28, 2006 Visit from the Mackerts (5/06). ** Should you know where the money ($$$$$) goes? **

Jesus In The Temple

Matt 21:12 And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves, Matt 21:13 And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.
Gal. 4:16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth? John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. 1 John 4:6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Skip To Blue Letter Bible Search Tool

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Friday, March 8, 2013

What Happened To Our People In Benghazi 9-11-2012?

Updated 4-11-13 New video with petition for accountability.
Originally published 10-27-12
Have we forgotten?
Photo Credit:  Blog:
My Son The Sailor


From the blog

SEAL CREED

In times of war or uncertainty there is a special breed of warrior ready to answer our Nation’s call. A common man with uncommon desire to succeed. Forged by adversity, he stands alongside America’s finest special operations forces to serve his country, the American people, and protect their way of life. I am that man.My Trident is a symbol of honor and heritage. Bestowed upon me by the heroes that have gone before, it embodies the trust of those I have sworn to protect. By wearing the Trident I accept the responsibility of my chosen profession and way of life. It is a privilege that I must earn every day. My loyalty to Country and Team is beyond reproach. I humbly serve as a guardian to my fellow Americans always ready to defend those who are unable to defend themselves. I do not advertise the nature of my work, nor seek recognition for my actions. I voluntarily accept the inherent hazards of my profession, placing the welfare and security of others before my own. I serve with honor on and off the battlefield. The ability to control my emotions and my actions, regardless of circumstance, sets me apart from other men. Uncompromising integrity is my standard. My character and honor are steadfast. My word is my bond.We expect to lead and be led. In the absence of orders I will take charge, lead my teammates and accomplish the mission. I lead by example in all situations. I will never quit. I persevere and thrive on adversity. My Nation expects me to be physically harder and mentally stronger than my enemies. If knocked down, I will get back up, every time. I will draw on every remaining ounce of strength to protect my teammates and to accomplish our mission. I am never out of the fight. We demand discipline. We expect innovation. The lives of my teammates and the success of our mission depend on me – my technical skill, tactical proficiency, and attention to detail. My training is never complete. We train for war and fight to win. I stand ready to bring the full spectrum of combat power to bear in order to achieve my mission and the goals established by my country. The execution of my duties will be swift and violent when required yet guided by the very principles that I serve to defend. Brave men have fought and died building the proud tradition and feared reputation that I am bound to uphold. In the worst of conditions, the legacy of my teammates steadies my resolve and silently guides my every deed.

I will not fail.


After reading this creed, I know it was  not an option for those men to "stand down".  They lived by this creed.
If our government will stand by and let an American Ambassador be killed, and let former Navy Seal's die while they try to defend the Ambassador and other Americans, what else would this administration do and allow?  Do we really want  a 'Commander in Chief' who neglects the military and allows Americans to be killed??  What a travesty.






Tuesday, July 5, 2011

Caylee Marie Anthony

Is this America?  A two year old is gone forever and the mother is free to party again?

Tribute for Caylee Marie by Lindsey Morris Sullivan
Lights on in Deer Park (Cincinnati) Ohio...RIP CAYLEE MARIE ♥ ♥♥Keep this rose Going for Caylee Marie Anthony ♥♥
Where is the justice for her?
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Porch Lights On for Caylee
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We left our porch (and a few other) lights on to remember Caylee.  The hard part was shutting them off the next day.  =(

Thanks to April for drawing our attention to the Porch Lights memorial and video below:

Caylee's Song video link

Thursday, June 9, 2011

Nichelle Tieman's Adultery and Lying Revisited: NOT_Overseer Material

In a previous post titled "The Celibacy Policy" or {Forbidding to Marry, Part Two of Don's Story}, Don shared how Nichelle Tieman repeatedly tried to seduce him to have sex with her, rubbing her breasts and rear end up against him, and coming to Don's room when David Tieman, Sr. was at work, trying to convince Don to "lay with" her.  We also shared how Don reported that years of forced celibacy in the ntcc, brought on by ntcc pastors interfering and  telling women not to talk to Don and telling Don not to talk to women, helped Don give in to this temptation.  Though Nichelle and Don did not have intercourse, there was inappropriate touching going on.  


As Don shared in another thread titled "Homosexual 'Pastors' in the ntcc: Names Included"  {Part Three of Don's Story}, he had already been sexually abused by three homosexual ntcc pastors.  This abuse of authority, coupled with long years of forced celibacy made Nichelle Tieman's forward advances seem appealing at first.  In Don's words:  "At first I welcomed these advances because they made me feel like a man is supposed to feel and that is masculine."  Of course the Holy Ghost continued to convict him; and Don repented of this sin.  After praying for forgiveness, Don called Pop Gaylord and told him of his involvement with Nichelle Tieman, who had also told Don that she loved another brother, Rev. Rice, and if anything happened to her husband, David Tieman Sr., Rice was the one she would marry.  Pop Gaylord called davis and r w got on a plane to visit Colorado Springs.  


From the moment davis got off the plane at the airport, (Ange was there with the Tiemans to pick up rdub at the airport) until the day he left, r w 's demeanor was mean, gruff, condescending and condemning.  davis screamed out the 'message' "What's in YOUR books?", which really was a message for r w davis that he pitchforked onto everyone else without applying it to his own adulterous self.  Hmmn.  


Afterwards, in the kitchen, Nichelle Tieman lied and told r w davis that Ange wanted to go to bible school.  If you know anything about ntcc, you know what a nail in the relationship-coffin that was.  Don was not going to bible school.  So in ntcc this made Ange off-limits to Don.  Not only that; but Don had wanted to go to bible school and unforgiving - but - guilty - himself -  davis had not "allowed it" even though Pop Gaylord gave Don a good recommendation to go. (See "Letters From The Past", {Part One}  for proof of Pop Gaylord's good recommendation, in Mom Gaylord's own handwriting.)  Talk about a twisted diabolical scheme to keep Don living a forced life of celibacy!  Three different ntcc pastors told him or a woman he was talking to they should not be talking!  Then this lie by nichelle tieman, the adulteress!  Forcing the ntcc rule-induced separation of Don and Ange; just because nichelle lied; and davis did not "allow" Don to go to the bible school.  Why?  


Even davis knew that Don is a good brother.  In davis' own words to Don:  "I [rw] never saw the devil fight anyone as hard as he fights you [Don]".  It was also at this time that davis told Don:  "I know what happened with you [Don] and [hummel and  rudy, and the rejected advances from broadnax the homosexual pastors] was NOT MUTUAL [Don did not want homosexuality.]  But, [davis continued] I think THIS [Don's involvement with nichelle tieman] WAS MUTUAL."  Ya think?  Seven years of not even being able to talk to a woman does wear down a brother who does not have the 'gift' of celibacy!  Of course he's going to be tempted even if it was Nichelle Tieman doing the tempting.  


Why did  Nichelle approach a single brother to meet her sexual needs?  At a conference in Missouri Nichelle was telling a room full of women how bad her husband David Tieman Sr. was in bed.  She was doing it in her usual scornful manner of speaking.  If you know Nichelle, you know what we are talking about:  How she makes fun of people constantly, including her own biological brother....  In that room were church members, bible school students, and ministers' wives.  Let them come on here and say that these things we share are true; because they were there and saw and heard it too.  In fact, this incident was the reason why davis, the very next day, stopped "letting" people fellowship in the rooms at the campground!  Additionally, many people have shared how horrible the Tiemans were as overseers because of their rude, sanctimonious, holier-than-thou behavior.

That brings us to the heart of the matter. The Tiemans (Nichelle and David Sr.) can not even keep their own house in order. They should NEVER be set up as Overseers to tell others how to do ANYTHING.


To date Nichelle has never apologized to Don or Ange for her adultery and lying. This indicates her lack of repentance (impenitent).   The bible says to rebuke openly before all, that others may fear. It says to not suffer a brother to sin.  People may not like the truth; but eXposing the truth is the only way to affect repentance. The ntcc would rather lift up Nichelle and David Sr. in pride and could care less that they are impenitent. As one anonymous poster shared on Jeff Collin's blog:

Anonymous said...
Jeff, then why is the woman that this man mentioned by name one of the leaders in ntcc?
I don't know but they are going to churches and preaching around and are seen as leaders for the ntcc, if I'm not mistaken her husband is in the board of ntcc, while real men and women like the John and Rebecca Rodrigues in the phillipines are just put on the back burner so to speak.
Is that what you have to do to belong to the board? Wow and wow!!!


These things ought not to be so.  Nichelle should repent of her adultery and lying; David Sr. should repent of his lack of meeting his wife's sexual needs. Or else David Tieman Sr. should step down from the board of the ntcc and relinquish his Overseer status.  They really are not qualified.  Just ask those who have had to endure the Tiemans coming to town on their broom  in their recreational vehicle.
  
NOT nichelle tieman; but it does
evoke memories of her actions...

The ntcc wants to disregard the bible commandment concerning Overseers found in 1 Tim 3:15: 

For if a man know not how to rule his own house, 
how shall he take care of the church of God?

That's what the bible says, people.  That is what God expects.  So how about it ntcc?  Perhaps the real reason the Tiemans have been allowed to advance is because they are not the only ones with unrepented-of sins.  Perhaps the very top 'leaders' of the ntcc have impenitent hearts and seek others who have skeletons in the closet to share the board room (or bedroom) with them.  Something to think about.  Perhaps the top ntcc leaders themselves do not know how to rule their own houses and as such should not take care of the church of God!


Update:  From the comments section on this post:

Anonymous said...
Somebody was telling some years back that when the tiemans were in denver pastoring a church, they used to invite the members of thier church to come to their house and enjoy the spa that ms. tieman had found for free in the newspaper. They used to have a blast when the tiemans were pastoring there.
NOw with this info about how ms. tieman behaved with don, it is so telling what were the intentions of nichelle bringing their members to enjoy their "blessing" (spa)
1 NCO 2 Another said...
Yeah, it's as obvious as when nichelle purposely pushed Don into the water from the paddle boat that they were in on a small pond at a park near the ntcc servicemen's home in Colorado Springs (Ft. Carson) on Circle. Drive.

nichelle wanted to flirt and get a good look at Don in his wet clingy clothes. I was there and saw the whole thing. nichelle's oblivious husband david tieman sr. was there too and saw the whole thing. I could not believe my eyes! I could see very plainly that she was flirting with / coming on to Don. Is david tieman sr. that dumb or did he just not care who nichelle was throwing herself at? It really was freaky.

Of course now we all know the rest of the story with Don.

And now thanks to your post we see that this was a pattern of bad behavior exhibited by nichelle tieman. A spa? Seriously? In a HOLINESS preacher's house?

I guess the Lord really does "use that jacuzzi in mysterious ways".

Here's a link to a video that says it all:



Shaking my head. You know, I'm starting to wonder if david tieman sr. is a little gay himself? I mean; come on? How many times does your wife have to throw herself at other men to try and get your attention? Are you gay, dave? Or is nichelle some kind of nymphomaniac that you just can't keep up with her? Or do you both just need some good old fashioned counseling from a real counselor, not davis the blabber mouth who WILL air your private business from the pulpit if it suits him; (as he has boasted that he does do that.... And we've all seen and heard it too!)

I just don't get it; why do you want to continue in sin? Lying to yourselves about who you are and what you want. Why not just go out and be REAL bad girls or bad boys and quit pretending?

Or better still, why not go to the cross and really get a touch of salvation and healing from Jesus Christ the Merciful?

Are you really that proud that you'd rather go to hell for halfway-living in sin?

You don't have to. Repentance is one prayer away. Forgiveness is yours for the asking.

(Don and) Ange
Related Stories:


To See All Related Stories In Mobile View, click this label "Don's Story"


Or, to view each part alone:


1)  Why I Left The ntcc


2)  The Celibacy Policy


3)  Homosexual Pastors

Wednesday, May 4, 2011

I Still Believe In That by Ash Bowers

Make no mistake, they're out there.  Hypocrites like rodger davis who will tell you "children hinder the work of the lawd" while he and his second wife,verna, lie about adopting tanya maxamillia reynolds davis kekel.  That's why it is important to base your faith on only the blood of Jesus Christ, His finished work of the cross, His mercy that is a GIFT.  Otherwise you will be stuck seeking the approval of a hypocrite like davis or his selfish son-in-law mike kekel who will laugh at your need and try to break up your marriage, all in the name of the Lord.  Don't fall for their lies.  Just look to the Lord Who bought you with His blood, His sinless sacrifice, your price paid in full.

I Still Believe In That by Ash Bowers video link

Tuesday, April 19, 2011

Part 1: ntcc Missionaries Suffer Poverty While ntcc Board Members Live In Luxury

Updated 2-16-2013
Matthew 25:40  Click to Watch On YouTube
Pagpalain kayo ng Diyos! - God Bless You!

Please think about this video the next time the ntcc leadership tries to offer some lame excuse for their lack of financial accountability. Think about the lifestyles of the board members who live in luxury while the ntcc missionaries report unbelievable financial hardship, such as:
Rev. and Sis. Mackert ... found a place, 9 feet by 14 feet [9'x14'] and one bathroom. It is on the 6th floor and there is no elevator. The last place they had stayed, they had to share a common bathroom with the other tenants! Yikes! This place has their very own private bathroom, although the Rev. shared there is no seat on the throne, and no way to attach one….
The Devonshire Files Sunday, May 28, 2006 Visit from the Mackerts (5/06) ntcc photo of the Mackerts at ntcc website:  http://www.myntcc.org/Manila/aboutus.aspx

Meanwhile, 
"the building goes on in Goshen" -- Which is ntcc code talk and bragging -- "Look at us, we are building lots of buildings in Graham, Washington! We are winning!' Blah, blah, blah
Yup, ntcc has a really nice cult compound called the Bonco where rodger w. davis, who supposedly retired back in 2004, lives in a $1.1 million dollar (Yikes!) mansion owned by the 'non-profit' (Yikes!) ntcc... Here's a picture of the davis palace:


Da davises' Domain Valued at $1,100,000.00 and built for a non-profit retiree who allegedly retired in 2004.
Hmmmnnn...  'BONCO!'

And  kekel has his second mansion, third house, this one built "behind the fence" of the ntcc's Bonco compound in Graham, Washington, right next door to da'-da' davis' palace.  Here's a picture of kekels' kastle:


kekels' kastle next door to da'-da' davis' domain on da Bonco !!

Looks like davis and kekel love their mansions more than they love God.  *Ahem.*  Right?  Right!  Sound familiar?  Uh, Yup!  Uh, Duh!

One person shared that tanya kekel was complaining about having to downsize because this current castle has a smaller kitchen and smaller walk-in closet than the last mansion she lived in (off 145th in Graham). Might we consider that the Mackerts lived in a 9' x 14' space that was probably smaller than only one of tk's walk-in closets!

You see in ntcc when they say the building goes on in Goshen, they are saying, "Oooh!  Look at us!  We are so wealthy.  We've built more mansions for us feudal lords and more rental properties for the serfs, the slaves with "strong backs and weak minds"; that way they can generate more income for us while they clean our mansions for free for us."

But God says:  Woe unto them that join house to house, [that] lay field to field, till [there be] no place, that they may be placed alone in the midst of the earth!" Isa. 5:8

Also, that statement, "the building goes on in Goshen" is so true;  the ntcc has used all kinds of slave labor to build their idolatrous temples to men; just as Pharaoh did.  And just like Pharaoh, ntcc used rigour and ruled with force and cruelty, taking away the straw of time, requiring a double quota of results to be produced.

God has heard the cries of His people.

Judgment is coming for some, deliverance for others.  What side will you be on?

Love not the world, neither the things [that are] in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 1 John 2:15

When bloggers began demanding financial accountability from the ntcc borg leaders, the ntcc decided to do damage control by publishing a smoke-screen article about how much money they spent on blacktop.  **YAWN!**  This was just a pitiful attempt to divert attention from where ALL the money goes.  But let's look at an image and talk about it some more:

Google Satellite Image of ntcc Graham, Washington cult compound for the ntcs unaccredited seminary:



Note all the black top.  Hmmn.  More important than feeding Filipinos?  Believe it or not, you decide.  You decide  by staying with a group and endorsing their actions.  Or by leaving a group and finding one that supports the causes you believe in.  It's really that simple.  God loves you.  Will you love Him back?

Tears of the Saints by Leeland Click Here


Related Posts:

Part 2: NTCC Missionaries Suffer Poverty While NTCC Board Members Live In Luxury

Tour NTCC 4: The Bonco

Update:
After first publishing this story, we found this gem on a ntcc website:

"This was a real victory for our church. We spent very little money from our General Fund, because the people had a mind to work. So, we have 13 pews, and one of the members is having a pulpit made to match ..." T. E. Wright, Angeles City, Philippine Islands
Don and Ange say,

See what we mean here?  The ntcc sends this board member, tom wright to the Philippines to try and rescue a work... But look at his idea of "a real victory" in his own words:


"This was a real victory for our church. We spent very little money from our General Fund"--NTCC Board Member Tom E. Wright, Angeles City, Philippine Islands from the  skewed good news of pews at "New Pews" on ntcc website http://www.ntccmissions.org/angeles.html

We think tanya kekel needs another mansion, don't you?  And her daddy rodger wilson davis needs to live an a mansion valued at $1,100,000.00 that the ntcc built for him even though he allegedly retired back in 2004.  And all the Overseers and Board Members need new Recreational Vehicles, oops, ntcc only calls them Motor Homes (yeah, right, whatever).  While I was in the borg, they owned ELEVEN -- 11 -- Recreational Vehicles.  Each one could be valued conservatively between $200,000.00 - $300,000.00.  That's an estimated $2,200,000.00 - $3,300,000.00 DOLLARS TIED UP IN RECREATIONAL VEHICLES ALONE!

Don't worry about that starving Sister in the Philippines that one Minister testified about. He stated the ntcc boasted about her sacrificial giving of her food money to instead buy gas so she could bring people to church.  ntcc loved that story, until they got called out for letting that same woman, a bible school student, go hungry needlessly while the fat cats in Washington get fatter.

Garbage Children Of The Philippines:
Click Here To Watch Video On YouTube

Keep sending in those mission pledges and escrow account funds with no clue as to where the money really goes; 'cause it obviously ain't being spent in the Philippines on silly pews or hungry sisters, that kekel describes as "wasteful congregants"!!!

Whew. Glad to know the ntcc is so responsible and trustworthy that we can just take out our brains, dig in our wallets, and "give 'til it hurts"!! Right? Wrong.
God said to be a good steward. That means knowing where it really goes, folks. Don't put obedience to bullies like kekel and davis over obedience to God. Do what God wants and know where it goes. That is good stewardship.

If the ntcc will not provide financial disclosure, they should not get one cent of your money.

There are plenty of legitimate organizations out there that give full financial disclosure and help people in need every day. Feel free to check them out for yourself.  Or continue giving to the rich; but remember:

He that oppresseth the poor to increase his [riches, and] he that giveth to the rich, [shall] surely [come] to want. Prov. 22:16

Vote Anonymously On This Post By Clicking On The Lettered Boxes Below (If no boxes are visible, go to the bottom of the page and click the "View Web Version" Link):
A)  Sounds Like A True Description Of ntcc.
B)  ntcc Sounds Like A Cult.
C)  I Read This Post.
D)  It is wrong for church 'leaders' to force missionaries to suffer poverty while 'leaders' live in luxury. 
E)  ntcc should give full financial disclosure including board members' salaries, expenses, travel, and other perks like the cost of any of their mansions owned by ntcc. 
F)  I'm afraid to get caught commenting on this blog. 
G)  Glad To Be Out of ntcc
H)  Mackerts should feel free to join a church that will support them and help the poor of the Philippines.
I)    I'm Thinking Of Leaving ntcc
J)   I'm afraid to leave ntcc.
K)  The video title, "Garbage Children" reminds me of kekel spitting from the pulpit that children are "filthy and evil" when they "throw hissy-fits in the cookie aisle of the grocery store".  Remember, the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh...  "Filthy and evil" children???  In my opinion kekel sounds like satan!  
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Wednesday, February 23, 2011

"Kill 'em All!" -- rodger w. davis' stance on puppies: Part One of the NTCC No-Pet Rule, Now Called a 'Policy'

New Testament Christian Church No Pet Rule Now Called A Policy - Dog Cringes in Fear before a Revolver / Handgun
 WHY SHOOT 2 DOGS AND AXE-OFF  PUPPIES' HEADS?
 ASK RODGER W. DAVIS.
 THOSE WERE HIS ORDERS. 


Five Adorable Puppies Watch Below or on YouTube


Isn't this one of the cutest videos you've ever seen?  Puppies are just precious!

But to strange minds like rodger w. davis...  puppies and German Shepherds are things to kill...

Wendy and Lion were two beautiful German Shepherds owned by michael c. kekel and rodger w. davis.  These two dogs came from the same litter.  They loved to jump the fence that separated them and go play together.  davis ordered elliot f. gesang to kill these dogs.  So elliot f. gesang took Wendy and Lion out in the woods and shot them dead.

Could you kill an innocent pup like the one in the following video?

Beagle Puppy Howl Watch Below or on YouTube

In a separate incident rodger w. davis ordered another minister to take a whole litter of puppies and chop off their heads with an axe; the other minister did so, crying.

Child abusers torture animals in front of kids to terrify them, sending them the message:  "You're next!"

Serial murderers start with killing animals; they say they do this "To see what it feels like to kill something."

It's all about control / domination -- perverse pleasure at killing innocents [puppies] and innocence [the trust you had in that power monger who orchestrated this test of your loyalty to him to see if you would break your own code of decency and ethics to be obedient (subservient) to him.]...

It's no joke.  davis is sick.  He wants to break you; so he can run your life in order to profit ($$$) himself.  Dead puppies?  You gotta be kidding us!  When we see puppies we think, "Oh, so cute!  They need shelter and food.  Let us take you home and love you!"

When davis sees puppies he sees $$$ leaving his wallet.  That is intolerable to a man whose god is the 'almighty dollar'.  He uses these puppies for his gain.  "Kill 'em all" and I will know that you will fall on your sword for me...

Sick.  Sick.  Sick.

Golden Retriever Puppies  Watch Below Or On YouTube

A righteous [man] regardeth the life of his beast: but the tender mercies of the wicked [are] cruel.
Prov. 12:10

Once again we see rodger w. davis' actions placing him on the wrong side of the Word of God.  Could you kill these innocents to please r w davis?  Why?  The bible clearly states that the righteous man regardeth THE LIFE of his beast.  The righteous man does not randomly slay innocent puppies for perverse pleasure!  davis has shown that he is wicked, his tender mercies [are] cruel.  Why stay and be part of a group run by a "wicked" man with "cruel tender mercies"?

Related posts:

The Only Good Cat, Is a Dead Cat:  Part Two Of the ntcc "No Pet Rule" Now Called a Policy



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Saturday, September 11, 2010

Am I in a Cult?

The following test is to determine if you are in a cult. Please review answers when done. No cheating!!!


1. Which of the following statements is true concerning the giving of money and church leadership of a cult?
a) Money is not a determining factor. If a member was homeless and had no income they would never be made to feel uncomfortable. As long as they accepted Christ, they would be loved as a brother.

b) Money is a factor. If a member gets saved they will pay tithe and give everything they possibly can  to the work of God. If they don't, the leadership will tell them it's the Holy Ghost that will make them feel uncomfortable and unwelcome.

c) Money is a factor. If A member pays tithe and doesn't give in offerings they will be tolerated and made to feel welcome but not very comfortable by the leadership.

d) b and c are both correct depictions of how cults operate.


2. Which of the following is true concerning the allocation of funds in a cult organization?

a) The majority of the funds are put to use in the ministry to help missionaries and those pioneering new churches with start up money and any necessary costs associated with starting a church.

b) Money is set aside for and members are encouraged to help the sick, the poor and the afflicted; and the church leadership never looks down their nose at those in need.

c) Church leadership is transparent and truthful about where funds are being spent, allowing their members to know where their hard earned dollars are going.

d) The majority of church members, ministers and missionaries give large amounts of money and exert much energy and sweat equity into what they think is helping lost souls; while the very few that benefit from this are living in luxury, and hoarding all of the rewards to themselves.

3. Which of the following is true concerning the control of the church members lives in a cult?

a) Church members are shown the scriptures and taught the bible and allowed to live according to the conviction of the Holy Spirit and as they feel led by God in their own conscience.

b) Church members are given time to grow in Christ and not expected to be perfect. They are also allowed to have an opinion and are not humiliated publicly if their opinion differs from that of the leadership.

c) Church members are encouraged to stay in contact with friends and family and not discouraged from staying in contact with others that have moved on to different endeavors.

d) Church members are told what the bible says, what the bible means and are shown the door if they disagree with the leadership even if the leadership is corrupt and adding rules that exceed and/or have nothing to do with scripture, but are propagated to create strict obedience to the "man of God".

4. Which of the following is true concerning dating and relationships in a cult?

a) Members are highly encouraged to wait until they have been through seminary or bible school before they can be spiritually prepared for marriage and they can be "assisted" in finding a mate by the leadership.

b) Talking to members of the opposite sex must be approved by the church leadership on a case by case basis.

c) Certain members are prohibited from talking to or dating other members because it is determined by the super spiritual leader that members are not intelligent enough or spiritual enough to make their own decisions regarding these matters.

d) All of the above are true concerning cult dating and relationship (unwritten) policies.

5. Which of the following is true concerning the women's role in a cult?

a) A woman is to keep her mouth shut and pray. She is to be seen, not heard. A woman's job is to be a flower; she is only supposed to look pretty and smell nice. Her opinion means absolutely nothing.

b) A woman's wedding ring gives her no authority in marriage or the ministry. She could give advice on feminine products but nothing to do with solid Christianity.

c) Women are considered property and are to be in complete submission to their husbands and the church leadership. When they are single they are a precious commodity and are nurtured tenderly until they are given in marriage to those most highly esteemed by the leadership; and then they are ruled with an iron fist and are considered rebellious if they disagree and cast out for minor transgressions.

d) All of the above are true pertaining to a woman's role in a cult.

6. Which of the following statements are true concerning the example set by the leadership of a cult?

a) The leadership should not expect a member to do anything different than the word of God requires them to do.

b) The leadership should live above reproach and guard their testimony even more than the member least their actions prove them to be hypocrites.

c) The leadership should not live a double standard that allows them to enjoy worldliness but constricts members by imposing multiple lists of do's and don'ts that makes them walk on egg shells all the time.

d) None of the above statements are true concerning the example that is set by the leadership of a cult.
7. Which of the following statements are true concerning children in a cult?

a) Children are a blessing to a man and his wife and the future of the work of God.

b) Children are a hindrance to the work of God.

c) Men should get vasectomies so their ministries will not be hindered by filthy evil children.

d) Children are to be excluded from many secular activities, not allowed to participate in sporting events and raised like miniature preachers unless they are part of the leadership in which case a special dispensation of grace is allowed so the child does not have to grow up like a nerd or a dork.

e) b, c and d are all examples of statements which are true regarding children in a cult.

8. Which of the following statements is true about the credibility of the leadership of a cult?

a) The founder is forthcoming and transparent about his credentials and does not keep them a mystery to his congregation.

b) The leadership has no credibility and the church has no accreditation and there is no accountability amongst them for any of their controversial doctrines.

c) The leadership is very evasive and argumentative when asked to explain or verify credentials.

d) Both b and c are true statements concerning the credibility of the leadership of a cult.

9. Which of the following is true about the accountability of the leadership of a cult?

a) There are checks and balances in place in a church group's organization structure to ensure one man does not abuse his office or hurt people for the sake of money or power.

b) The leadership is accountable to God only and can make any rules no matter how outlandish they may be without answering to anybody wether they are right or wrong.

c) The members and clergy of a church are allowed to voice opposition to wrong doing and corruption without retribution.

d) The leadership lives by example and are transparent about their dealings so they do not appear to be hiding things that are damaging to their congregations.

10. True or False?



" If a person is told they are a Christian, goes to church and feels God, hears the word of God preached, feels love from some of the other members and some of the clergy, it is impossible for them to be in a cult."

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