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A safe place for Xers to share their stories and heal.

A place to learn what it's really like in the ntcc founded by Rodger Wilson Davis;
and run by his son-in-law, Michael Craig Kekel,
the father of the one vasectomy-rule-exception kid in ntcc, Grant Davison Kekel.

Ezekiel 12:11

Say, I 'am' your sign: like as I have done, so shall it be done unto them: they shall remove 'and' go into captivity.

He Loves A House More Than God: Bonco Mansions of kekel (l) and davis (r)

He Loves A House More Than God:  Bonco Mansions of kekel (l) and davis (r)
"He loves a house more than God:" *Bonco* Mansions of kekel (l) and davis (r). Meanwhile, on the mission field: ntcc Missionaries to the Philippines "Rev. and Sis. Mackert ... found a place, 9 feet by 14 feet [9'x14'] and one bathroom. It is on the 6th floor and there is no elevator. The last place they had stayed, they had to share a common bathroom with the other tenants! Yikes! This place has their very own private bathroom, although the Rev. shared there is no seat on the throne, and no way to attach one…." from The Devonshire Files Sunday, May 28, 2006 Visit from the Mackerts (5/06). ** Should you know where the money ($$$$$) goes? **

Jesus In The Temple

Matt 21:12 And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves, Matt 21:13 And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.
Gal. 4:16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth? John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. 1 John 4:6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Skip To Blue Letter Bible Search Tool

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Monday, March 17, 2014

Protect Your Children - Barbara Norton Warwick Affirms that Convicted Child Rapist Johnny Jordan is Back in the NTCC.

Recently, in a painful phone conversation from Barbara Norton Warwick  in which she repeatedly railed on her abandoned and ignored daughter Lisa, Barbara Norton Warwick implied that Johnny Jordan was back as a member of the ntcc and was considered a 'brother'; and that he announced during Davis' funeral that he didn't rape Lisa!  This led Lisa to believe that Johnny Jordan the convicted sex offender was attending the funeral of RWD back in Washington; because Barbara told Lisa that Johnny announced it publicly during the funeral. This is troubling on so many different levels.  If it is true that Johnny Jordan is indeed back, then he is violating the conditions of his probation in Florida; and his electronic monitoring device [ankle bracelet] would have to have been cut or overridden somehow for him to leave the state of Florida without their knowledge.  We called the state of Florida probation office and they told us that to their knowledge Johnny Jordan was still in Florida as of the 5th of March.  This is the same Johnny Jordan who has been convicted on separate charges related to sex crimes against a child between the ages of 12 thru 17 years old.  The NTCC founder and Super Apostle which can't remember the last time he sinned, Rodger Davis, had molested and raped an under aged Pam Norton in the same time frame that Pam's husband Johnny was raping Pam's younger sister Lisa and Jordan impregnated Lisa by rape at the age of 14. Barbara Norton Warwick, who is the biological mother of both Pam and Lisa, ignored both of her daughters' pleas for help and instead called them liars, telling Pam, "With all the pretty girls, why would he pick you?" and abandoning pregnant-by-rape Lisa to fend for not only herself, but also her mentally challenged brother, Terry.  Read more...


Who Is The Liar?

If Johnny Jordan is not back in the NTCC and never made this announcement then Barbara is lying to cover up her sin of ignoring Lisa when she told Barbara that she was raped by Johnny.  Barbara has been pitching a major hissy fit ever since she was exposed for physically torturing her children and ignoring the sexual abuse and rape that was committed by Davis against Pam, and for abandoning Lisa when she was pregnant by rape by Johnny Jordan when Lisa was only 15 and pregnant, to care for her handicapped brother Terry.  Barbara would later turn custody of her handicapped son over to the state because she wanted nothing to do with him, but was having a good old time elsewhere.  What a good heart Lisa had to cope with all of the terrible things that happened to her while trying to take care of her brother Terry.  Either way you look at this, Barbara Norton Warwick is a liar and full of wickedness.  She is a very evil woman and has no business masquerading as a Christian.  You can put a dress on the devil and she still is the devil.  Barbara Norton Warwick can dress up like a holiness Christian, but she is far from it; and the ntcc continues to hide her sin and the sins of Davis and Jordan.  The best thing she can do is own up to her sorry lies and get saved, just like many others were often told in the ntcc.  "You just need to get saved".  How many times have we all heard that?  Barbara needs to hear that.  She needs a good dose of salvation.

Jordan is a Convicted Sex Offender; if in Washington, He Has Violated His Probation Terms From Florida, Call 911 !!!

If Johnny is in fact in Washington call the local police. He is a convicted sex offender and the authorities in Florida need to be notified immediately that the convicted criminal has violated the terms of his probation and they need to haul his sorry sexually deviant butt back to prison; and they should throw away the key.  Also if it is true, then that means the ntcc is once again guilty of harboring another sex offender; and all of those board members should also be hauled off to prison for allowing that predator to prowl around the church without even notifying people. That puts your children at risk People!  If they are considering him a 'brother' and having him make announcements that he never raped Lisa, then that means that they are extremely desperate and resorting to new levels of stupidity to cover up their involvement.  It also means they are endorsing him, further endangering your children.  They have reached an all time low on this.  If any of you ntcc'rs have heard that Johnny Jordan made this announcement,  would you take the word of a convicted pedophile and child molester to exonerate Davis from his history of molesting young girls?

Bend Over - You're Getting A Spanking!

And what is the deal with Davis and others in ntcc like kekel and other board members spanking other people's children?  We heard this from many people now.  More than 3 witnesses that are required by the bible have stated that Davis spanked many children that were not his own.  Don't you ntcc'rs feel the slightest bit alarmed that Davis has a history of bending young girls over his knees and pulling down their underwear to spank them?  Many of you out there were in the ntcc during this time and knew that Davis was spanking other people's children. Not only did Davis spank other children, but he taught other ministers to do the same.  Barbara also has a history of spanking other people's children - like the little boy Caleb; who lived upstairs from the Nortons in St. Louis.  If you allow your children to be spanked by Barbara, beware. She has been known to curse at children while she spanks them. It's got to be an evil spirit that resides in her to take pleasure in spanking children and it must be a horrifying experience to those children who have been spanked by her.  If you need a church leader or another church member to spank your children then you do not love them the way you should.  Don't allow this cult to destroy your child's life.

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Pedophile Pastors?

We are finding out that Davis was the worst kind of sexual predator.  People have been abused as children by Davis; and now that it's public knowledge, you must wonder why your church and your leaders are trying so hard to cover all of this up.  If you are so desperate that you need an announcement from a convicted pedophile to convince people that your Floundering Founder did not molest children, then you are truly misguided; and anyone who witnessed that or heard that Johnny Jordan made this announcement publicly, should be in a state of shock.  But it appears that many of you ntcc'rs are more content to blame the victims of these tragic deeds.  You are so blind that you would accept a pedophile as a 'brother' just to protect the name of your cult, oops I meant church; no I didn't; it's definitely a cult!

Snip Snip It's As Easy as 1 - 2 - 3 & More Kids Get Raped:
Maybe Barbara was lying about all this.  From what we can see if she did lie, then she falls into the category of "All" Liars and shall have her part where?  We all know where, it's the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, where the worm dieth not and the fire is not quenched.  [Rev 21:8 here, Rev 20:14 here, Mark 9:44-48 here].  But if she told the truth, and convicted child rapist Johnny Jordan was or is in Washington, that puts more children at risk We know he raped his ex-wife's little sister Lisa (1), but was unpunished. We know he was convicted in Florida for forcing sex on another child (2). And we know that statistics say he is likely to offend again if he gets the opportunity (3). We also know from statistics, that electronic monitoring has limitations.

There is a high probablilty that the ankle bracelet was cut or removed [read more...] professionally for the right price, paid for by the wrong people; and the possibility that J. Jordan was brought to Graham during davis' funeral to refute Pam and Lisa's Testimonies.  This seems a little far fetched in some ways; but let's examine it just for the sake of it being possible.  Let's say Johnny Jordan is sitting down in Florida on house arrest with nothing to do; and he Googles his name and finds out about his sins of the past being made public.  He calls Graham and finds out that Davis is on his death bed and was being eXposed by all of those X-ers who are eXposing davis for child molestation. Johnny Jordan sees this as an opportunity, and says to Kekel or Olson or his NTCC Board Member brother George aka "Bobby" Jordan, or NTCC Senior Staff and Seminary Instructor brother (Timothy) Paul Jordan, or NTCC Executive Board Member Brother-In-Law James Ross Ashmore:  "For 80 Grand, I can get my ankle bracelet cut and have it put on my dog; who also is under house arrest; and, if you are willing to shell that out and some extra hush money, I will even deny that these horrible crimes were ever committed. But if you don't pay my way, and my expenses, and some extra money for my troubles, I will come out publicly and say that Davis was a serial adulterer; and that he molested my ex-wife."  Sound like a conspiracy theory?  We guarantee you that stranger things have happened. [Read More]

Having shared all that, we personally are more inclined to believe that Barbara Norton Warwick is a habitual pathological liar, who curses while she beats children; and that she will go down to the lower parts of the earth defending Davis before she ever were to acknowledge the truth.

Barbara Norton Warwick who seems nice but reportedly beats children while cursing at them.
 barbaric barbara norton warwick
 "The Talk Of The Town" who
 reportedly beat children while
 cursing them and blaming them.
 She claims Kekel personally told her
 to tell Lisa to "Shut Your Mouth!" 

When she told me this, Lisa also
retorted, "WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO?
SPANK ME?" LOL She's not a helpless
little girl any more!  Is she!?!  Nope.

But if Barbara did slip up and accidentally rat out Johnny Jordan, we have done our part to protect the ntcc children from that convicted felon who is a sex offender.


UPDATED 3-4-2014 FDLE FILE PHOTO
JOHNNY DEAN JORDAN CONVICTED
SEX OFFENDER. LINK TO FLYER SHOWS
NEW CONVICTIONS IN 2013 FOR FAILURE
TO REGISTER SENTENCE-5 YR PROBATION
CLICK HERE TO READ THE FLYER

Thursday, February 27, 2014

Davis Hides His Sin by Having Barbara Norton Abandon her Daughter Lisa and Handicapped son Terry - Forked Tongued Ashmore Smeared Them

The following comments were left on the previous thread entitled:
Are All these Girls Lying?  Pam Norton and Lori Kelly Testimonies

Lisa said...

I will never ever forget the day Barbara Norton so called mom woke me up to tell me she was leaving my dad to be a preacher in Seattle. I came downstairs. Davis and his men took everything out of the house my handicap brother Terry and I where watching them take everything out she took down the Christmas tree and the presents she had under the tree where for her new church family she made sure to tell us. I remeber standing there it was Christmas morning she left Terry and I our beds and one dresser for us to share. Davi[s] and Barbara said I was evil and had the Mark of the beast on my forehead

Wednesday, February 26, 2014 8:40:00 PM
Lisa said...

They took all the food. I am in my head being only 15 yrs old thinking it's Christmas how and what do I do for Terry.. My dad was working 35hrs for extra money. Barbara. Was yelling because I had this panino
I bought and I sold it. How she wanted the money to use to leave dad she found the money and gave it to Davis for tithe.. I use to volunteer for meals on wheels they would give me tip money I would hide it she would find it and
Give to Davis for tithe offering whatever.....I just stared at hurt she was yelling it over and over it was just Terry and I and her. Davis had our stuff she was to meet him

Wednesday, February 26, 2014 8:51:00 PM
Lisa said...

I just stood there in a daze. . The only reason Davis thought I was evil is because she would listen to my phone conversations with Lori. I told Lori. I would never let some man wake me up and tell me to fix his food I was a slave to Barbara never would I ever let some man treat me like his trash.. I told her I would punch him in the nose. I always thought if I fix you food it's because I want to.... She never ever listen to anything my dad asked or said to her.. He could say the sky was blue she would say red just to tick him off.she was very very mean to my dad

Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:03:00 PM
Lisa said...

A part of me had this big smile I found my way out of prison I was going to be free from her from the church from. Davis all of the stuff it was like a weight was lifted I could breath for the first time in my life. Then there was a part of me feeling so rejected and knowing I was never wanted or ever loved that was the hurt because no matter you have to stand there and realize. You really was her trash, damaged goods. I was nothing but damaged. You can't even look at yourself because of the ugliness of what your where inside and out... Davis and Barbara made sure to let me know. That I was the devil he was inside of me...

Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:13:00 PM
Lisa said...

As I watched her and the rest of the people leaving and take everything out of the house so they could meet Davis. I went to this dark side that I have welcomed so many times... I sat there looking around there was nothing but the tv and couch. I kept telling myself over and over come on snap out of this... I looked at Terry he started to cry I got scared he was rocking back and forth back and forth again I. Felt like I was drowning it was hard to breath the air was so stiff.... I kept saying to myself Lisa be strong your the adult now your pregnant with Johnny. baby you are all alone help Terry..

Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:20:00 PM
Lisa said...

As Terry rocked back and forth screaming taking his hands. Putting them on his ears. Screaming no no no why is she leaving Lisa... Ii just sat there he asked me if she left because he wet the bed ? I was like no he looked at me with the sweetest face saying she said. It was my fault for wetting the bed . Then she said it was your fault for being a whore he asked me did you sleep with people I told him no ..I was so shocked she said this to him.. He kept saying she hated us and then he was crying harder and harder... I can't explain how I stood up my legs felt like jello

Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:32:00 PM
Lisa said...

Somehow I stood up gave him a hug and told him it was going to be ok I was here for him and I love you. I told him to see if we at least had two glasses and plates that I would be back. I walked to the corner store it was so cold she took almost all my clothes and gave them to somebody and my winter coat... I found a big purse and one dollar the people at the store loved and trusted me. I went in there they had some shoppers I opened my purse I stole. As much food As I could. There was this box of candy I stole for Terry to have a present.. I took that dollar and bought a 2 liter of soda

Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:41:00 PM
Lisa said...

I came home and ran up the stairs. I knew where there was warping paper and tape. . I wrapped the candy up came down stairs and looked at him and said hey Terry mom. Forgot she didn't. Take your present it's right here a big smile came over his face as he unwrapped his gift smiling ear to ear going I knew she loved me she will be back she will I am like Terry we'll until that happens I have a Christmas dinner for us. I took the food out of the bag and I stole hotdogs bread little stuff there was no dishes we sat there on the kitchen floor and eat cold hot dogs on bread and chips and we both drank out of the two,liter

Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:49:00 PM
Lisa said...

It made me snap out of it seeing him laugh and smile..I just there while he watched tv and thought to myself I can do this I can be the mom to him and the baby that I don't want but I have to do this... I helped my brother gave him bath and I took my sheet off. Of my bed so he could dry off his body helped him put on his pj and tucked him into bed... I stayed awake waiting for my dad he came home hours later I told him everything gone we have left over hot dogs as I made him food he was in a fetal. Position. Crying what do I do. I had no answers He looked at me and told me

Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:56:00 PM
Lisa said...

We Had this agreement that he would work I would take care of Terry and the house and all the stuff my mom use to do ... I would draw him bath water lay his clothes and Terry I would do the same... My dad went into this please call her and beg her back. I was like no never. He would be okie we'll I won't buy food I would lie and tell him I talked to her.. I don't know if it was all the stress or what but I did loose the baby the best day of my life..... Barb when she was given permission to call. It was horrible dad would cry Terry would cry because he missed her.. I was the one left dealing with everyone.......

Wednesday, February 26, 2014 10:03:00 PM
Lisa said...

I was born and as I grew Barbara Norton would tell me not to worry. About doing good in day school because I was in training to be a preachers wife that school was not important. She would always say. Your husband will support you. And you will be his wife. .. I went to bible college at 12 yrs old I did graduate when I was 14 I made straight A. In bible school. She had my life already planned. Before I. Even knew who I. Was. The one thing I knew is I was more lonely In my life then ever... It's weird how you can go to church and smile when deep,down inside you where so tired and unhappy..

Wednesday, February 26, 2014 10:14:00 PM
Lisa said...

I am so sorry if I keep go back and forth as the memories. Come back it's so much to handle I have to stop and take a shower I just fill so filthy and nasty for what has happened to me. After I lost the baby I did call Barbara in Seattle. And told her Johnny Jordan, raped me and I was pregnant by him and lost the baby. She called me a liar and told me Davis told her I would make up,lies about him because he did want me up there..she was yelling over the phone saying I was the one that if it happened I tempted him. Davis told her I was the one that told him I loved him and wanted him

Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:16:00 PM
Lisa said...

Barbara, was like Davis said we are living in these last days. And people would rise and cause problems in the church tempting the brothers and. I was the reason the brothers sinned. She was yelling saying she wouldn't let alittle whore like me bring down her church.. Eve.n when John was caught and PAm told her see she wasn't lying to this day she still believes. It was my fault...... Going back to Dec 25. when she left she told me I was. Thorn in her side that she was removing she spit on the ground and said I will never have the likes of you around ..

Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:24:00 PM
Lisa said...

The next day still confused. I called Lori told her I needed her. She came over and I told her everything we kind of looked at each other. And she said this year my mom died and your mom left. I was crying she put her arms around me saying will get through this. I learned how to grieve. As if Barbara died. But she was still alive. The 26 of dec Lori and I and my family had white castles it was our Christmas meal... Lori and I would look at each other going Barbara never loved me her mom died she was wonderful. It was like how do we start life Lori looked at me and said one day at a time

Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:32:00 PM
Lisa said...

I do want to go back and say. My mom did love the children at church but when she babysit them she spanked them as we'll... There was this little blonde boy he dripped jelly on the floor she took a switch to him. Any child that she watch if they made her mad did get a spanking from her.there was a 6month old baby he kept crying she took his diaper off and smacked him on the butt ... If she is watching your child or children they are getting spanked....Barbara was never allowed to be with my little girl. ... She said my child was a spoiled bratt

Wednesday, February 26, 2014 11:39:00 PM


Let's Summarize what happened here.  Pam, Lisa and Terry were all children of Barbara Norton Warwick.  Pam married Johnny Jordan who was Davis's right hand man, and worked for him in the office.  Lisa was Pam's younger sister who had just finished bible school at the age of 14.  Terry was their Handicapped brother.  Lisa and Terry both lived with Barbara.  

Some time shortly after Lisa finished bible school, she was raped by Johnny Jordan, her older sister Pam's Husband.  Keep in mind that Pam was still a minor being about 16 years old at the time.  Davis was using his position of power to molest Pam while Johnny was working for him.  He illegally raped Pam using his finger to penetrate her, while feeling her up.  By the way, this makes Davis a child molester and a child rapist according to law.  All of the sudden, a couple months later, Lisa is pregnant, and it can't be hidden.  

Davis decides to hide his sin and influences Barbara Norton to abandon Lisa who is 15 and pregnant, and to abandon her handicapped son Terry.  Davis and his helpers come to their house during Christmas and take everything out of the house that has any value including the Christmas tree and all of the Christmas Presents.  They took the furniture, most of Lisa's clothes, her coat, and all of the food out of the house. The Grinch was a saint compared to Davis.

At least the Grinch grew a heart and gave back Christmas.  Davis stole girls' innocence by molesting and raping them.  He then lied to the congregation about them so that nobody would help them or believe them when they told what he did.

Davis and Barbara Norton told Lisa that she was evil and had the Mark of the beast. They left Lisa and Terry with their beds and one dresser.  A pregnant 15 year old Lisa was left with her handicapped brother crying and wondering why he had been abandoned.  Although he was 21, Terry had the mind frame of an 8 year old.  Having nothing to eat, Lisa went to the store and stole groceries and bought a 2 liter bottle of soda with her last dollar.  Lisa and Terry had cold hot dogs and bread on Christmas and drank from the same two liter bottle because Davis the Grinch stole all of their glasses.

When you know all the stories from these girls, and from some others who have shared what Davis did to them, you see this pattern.  If Davis can seduce the girl and molest her freely, she can stay and be his sex toy.  If his child molesting techniques fail, he discredits the girl and gets her thrown out on the street.  In short, with Davis it is:

PUT OUT or GET OUT.

Barbara left Lisa; and Davis had his forked tongue servant, Ashmore, conduct a smear campaign.  Ashmore is also a wicked man; and he made it a point to discredit Lisa so that nobody would know what really happened.  Ashmore deceitfully and knowingly lied about Lisa, saying she was a whore and a slut; but she was a victim of rape. Lori Kelley, who was also left to fend for herself after her mother died, was Lisa's life-long best friend and they both were disparaged and lied about by Ashmore to cover Davis' sins.  Davis hid Johnny Jordan by moving him up to Washington state and thereby covered up Johnny's rape of Lisa.  After all, Davis was molesting and raping Johnny Jordan's underage wife Pam; and what would stop Johnny from spilling his guts if Davis outed him?  

Ashmore allegedly smears Lori K. and Lisa N. calling them SLUTS and WHORES.
"Lisa and I witnessed many things with that
 church Ashmore calling us names saying
 we're sluts and from the world to stay away
 from us and kicked us out of church"
-- shared by Lori K.

Sisters Pam and Lisa back in the day.
Sisters Pam and Lisa back in the day.

We want these ladies and anyone else torn down by abuse to know, they are more than the liars say. They are precious in God's eyes.  Here are a few songs about that.

UPDATE 2-28-2014
Anon a mouse contributed this excellent video and resource info for a group called BACA - Bikers Against Child Abuse.  These Bikers dedicate their time to protect and empower children who have been abused.


If you are being molested and or abused get help from outside NTCC:

1)  Call the police and tell them about the abuse and that you are in a cult.

2)  Call BACA in your area by finding the chapter closest to you:
      BACA Chapter Locator:  http://bacaworld.org/chapters/

3)  DO NOT Tell ANYONE Attending the NTCC - They have a history of attacking victims and of hiding abusers by moving victims, abusers, or both!

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Wednesday, April 18, 2012

Spiritual Cellulose: NTCC Preaches "Another Gospel" with Very Little Nutritional Value

Many people say they go to church to get fed spiritually.  The church world is a lot like the food industry in the United States.  Each restaurant and fast food joint claims to have the best food or the best prices; and each uses many sales tactics to convince consumers to buy their products.  Many groceries that we buy are marketed in the same way:  "Free Range Chickens", "Free Range Eggs", "Freshly Squeezed Orange Juice" and "Premium USDA Inspected Beef" are a few among the many terms used by the food industry to con you into buying their products.  But the FDA has few restrictions when it comes to definitions of these terms being so loosely used.

For example, a "Free Range" chicken can mean a chicken which shares a grass barn with a million other chickens.  But those "Free Range" chickens are just like their "Free Range" eggs which are all harvested in the barn.  They're really not roaming the countryside freely, enjoying sun and air and nature.

Notice that the Roosters or
'Pastors' are the only ones
allowed anywhere near freedom.

And how do you get 100% "Freshly Squeezed" orange juice 365 days a year?  The OJ might be freshly squeezed; but after that it is put into sealed tanks.  All the oxygen is taken out of it; and there it sits for up to a year before it reaches the grocery store shelf.  And what they don't tell you is that everything that makes it taste like orange juice sunk to the bottom of the tank; so later on they mix in f'lavor packets' that are like perfume fragrances to make your 'freshly squeezed' orange drink, that's been stored for a year, once again taste like real "freshly squeezed" OJ!  They even have loopholes which are allowed by the FDA that do not require big companies like Minute Maid to list the ingredients of these mystery flavor packets on their packaging.

"USDA Inspected" is another term.  It seems reassuring; but in fact it means very little in the meat industry.  Buyers of meat look for the cheapest product to save their money; and the meat industry has been allowed to take the cheapest cuts of meat and market them as "USDA Choice".  70% of all hamburger patties are made by a company called Beef Products, Inc.  They use a process of 'cleaning' the beef with ammonia gas so that it can pass e-coli inspections;  that enables it to have the government's stamp of approval so 'Beef Products' Inc. can compete with the few companies that actually use prime cuts of meat.  Do you ever wonder why a 12 minute trip to Taco Bell carries the consequence of a 12 roll session in the restroom?  [Just Kidding!]

Taco Bell - It's Swell!
Only "USDA CHOICE" Beef
Used Here.  When you're
done flushing, yell
"ALL CLEAR!"

As a truck driver, I have delivered all types of products to places across the USA.  One such delivery was 'Food-Grade Paper'.  Packaged as huge rolls of paper that weigh almost 7,000 lbs per roll, this product was delivered to a food company that had a pulp processing plant.  Not understanding why this paper looked a little different I asked their receiving personnel what the paper was used for.  They explained to me that it was 'Food-Grade Paper'; and it was processed into pulp which was processed into powder and used as a cheap replacement for more expensive 'fillers' like flour and oils!  What?  It's not for packaging?  No.  It winds up in your food.  It has no nutritional value; and is listed in the ingredients of your favorite food as "Cellulose".  Notice the close correlation between the words "Cellulose" and "Cellulite" - that pesky body fat that accumulates around your middle-aged gut; giving you the appearance of a Dunlap tire 'coz your stomach done lapped over your belt!  ;-)

Which has more wood
in it, the Bread or the
Chopping Block?

Cellulose comes from wood pulp, and is processed into huge rolls of 'Food-Grade Paper' that is a little thicker than construction paper and fairly coarse.  It is then put in your food to stretch the ingredients.  It is filler.  I looked it up on the internet; but it is not something that is very well advertised.  I had to do quite a few searches to find it.  But it was on a website that had a list of "The 6 most horrifying lies the food industry is feeding you".

What If Starbucks Marketed Like A Church?  Video on YouTube


Unfortunately, much of the church world operates in a similar fashion; and the ntcc is one of the worst offenders of all.  The ntcc leadership advertises that they "preach a living Christ to a lost and dying world".  They share that their version of the gospel is "pure" and "unadulterated".  But in truth, what they do is very similar to what the food industry does.  The food industry convinces people that they have the best product; and that is exactly what the ntcc tries to do in the church world.  In fact the ntcc will try to  convince you that they have the market cornered.  They will convince you that you will not find what they have to offer anywhere else.  And in a very subtle way they will tell you that nobody offers what they have to offer.

The ntcc will tell you that "God raised up Davis because nobody else was preaching the truth.  Everyone else was compromising."  The same is true on a smaller scale in the local ntcc churches.  If you don't believe me, try going to another church, and see how your ntcc pastor reacts.  He will react just the way he was taught to react by Davis, Kekel and the rest of the ntcc leadership. "If the other churches were right with God, He wouldn't have raised the ntcc up in these last evil days as a bastion of righteousness and holiness".  The ntcc's version of holiness does not wash away greed, covetousness, adultery or the hate they preach and teach to their congregations.  What they fail to realize is that all their righteousness is as filthy rags (used menstrual cloths) before God.  They might feed you a line that there are other churches "out there" [sic] outside the weird "church behind the fence'.  But they will freak out if you go and visit one of those 'other' churches!  They will try to blame and manipulate you with mystical hogwash like, "If God saved you here, why would you go there?"  Well, I was born in a hospital, but I sure didn't grow up in one.  The ntcc is always telling X-ers to move on.  We'd like to encourage you "in-ers" to do the same. Move on out of that hospital where you were born-again and grow up in a healthy church environment where you are Spirit led, not on lock-down.  After all, hospitals are where you go when you are born, sick, or fixin' to die.  You don't want to spend your whole life there!

The ntcc uses an extremely emotional approach to appeal to people called "Love Bombing".  But then they use some very sleazy sales tactics to get them to buy off on their bill of goods.  They use a lot of "Fluff" to draw people in:  free dinners, free rides to church, smiles and hugs at the door.  But once they get their hooks in you, they begin to reveal some pretty disturbing rules they will try to call only 'policies' or 'doctrine'.  But just try ignoring or breaking those rules and see how well that goes over.  You will be blasted from the pulpit in a smear campaign designed to cut you off from the flock.  Unfortunately, their fear tactics have proven quite effective over the years.  The people you thought were your friends will start avoiding you.  You will be looked at in a very different light.  You've been marked and are on your way out.  In ntcc you are expected to conform to the rules of man or be cast off.

They also use advertising slogans like "A Church of All Nations"; but after you become one of them you start hearing nigger jokes.  Then they will say if that offends you, you must be wrong because "They that love the Lord, nothing will offend them."   That is ntcc's twisted version of Psa 119:165 which actually states:  "Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them."  First of all, they are misquoting that scripture.  And secondly, that scripture is not meant to be an excuse for them to sow discord, or use evil jesting.  They are really abusing that scripture to tell you that you can't be angry with their sin.  But the Word says to "be angry and sin not"  [Eph 4:26].  Plus, try applying their standard to them.  Walk up to Mikey Kekel and slap him on the back and say, "What's up, Mike?"  Then, when he turns red and tries to blast you say, "What?  You aren't OFFENDED; are you, Mike?  Because "They that love the LORD, nothing will offend them."  Or try walking into church and give Tanya Kekel one of those scathing head to toe look-overs like what she does to you to make you feel like your kook-store attire does not meet her standards.  Make sure you look disgusted or scornful when you do this to her.  See how she reacts to that.  Will she be a shining example of Christian love?  Or will she stamp her $400 dollar pair of heels and pout to Mikey so he can blast you and say "WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING AT?"  You see, in the ntcc there really is a double standard, a "do as I say, not as I do" hypocrisy that rules the 'leaders' actions.  They are hypocrites who preach one thing while demanding that you live a different thing.  They are like the food industry that promises something fresh; but in reality what you get has been sitting around getting stale.  They claim that they, and only they, "have the goods"; but what you are really getting is not %100 pure; instead it is full of man-made doctrines that are used as fillers to stretch the truth to fit their man-made agendas.  It's just a bunch of spiritual cellulose!

Another strategy ntcc uses to get the military involved is to promise them 'home cooked' meals; and they refer to their servicemen's homes as a "Home Away From Home"; but after you move in to their dysfunctional home, you must submit to all of their rules.  You first must pay tithe and give in offerings and pay a home offering and a separate food offering; you also must participate in every function every day and live according to ntcc's definition of holiness.  This in itself is bad enough, incorporating many non-scriptural man-made rules; but there are a lot of subtle and non-written rules you must also abide by; which all fall under their category of "Obey them that have the rule over you"; which can be found in Heb 13:17; but is largely abused by ntcc davis-wannabe megalomaniacs.  Did the author of Hebrews really intend for people to live in an environment where they have to obey some hypocritical, fault finding, micro managing, angry control freak?

The ntcc bible school, now called a cemetery, oops, seminary, slogan is "Preparing Youth with Truth in Holy Spirit Power".  I know this; because I tore the letter off of my high school letter jacket and sewed that big ugly yellow patch in it's place; because I was taught that pride was sinful and that displaying "a symbol of pride"  was wrong.  Well what's the difference between their patch or my High School's patch?  Does the ntcc really do what they claim?  Do they prepare youth with truth?  Let's see.  They teach bible school students that they can't be trusted to give another bible school student a ride in their car (even if their "oil-puking junker" is broken down on the side of the road) without first asking permission.  They teach them that they cannot fellowship with another brother or sister without ntcc's permission.  They can't borrow a plunger from another dorm without ntcc's permission.  Is all this based on truth?  Where in the Bible do you find that?  Is that the 13th commandment?  "Thou shalt not borrow thy neighbour's plunger unless pastor says so."  Let's continue.  They teach that it is a blessing to "scrub the toilet" of "the man of God", to clean their houses, and to clean their expensive cars and recreational vehicles and shine their shoes.  Is this all really preparing youth with truth?  Or is it teaching them to be slaves?  Meanwhile the board members relax with another drink and then fly out of town with nobody knowing where they are going or why.

What does the ntcc really have to offer its adherents that is good for their spiritual well being?  Most of what they offer is toxic; and they use a bunch of fillers and spiritual cellulose to make it all wash down.  "Preaching a Living Christ to a Lost and Dying World" sounds pretty good until you wake up decades later and realize that you are not only part of that dying world, but you have wasted the best years of your life by convincing others to follow a failed system that benefits a very few, while you witness others being trampled on for reasons that do not make any sense.  The ntcc needs a living Christ just as much if not more than the dying world that they preach to.  Their doctrine has run off more people than it has helped by far.  It's false advertising to say that you are the last move of God on planet earth and then treat people that you call your brother and sister like human excrement.  It's phony and hypocritical to live in luxury while expecting your members to foot the bill.  The bible is full of spiritual nutrition; but the ntcc causes it to be of no value when the leaders live contrary to the inflated advertisements they use to sell their gospel.

But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.  Gal 1:8

Sunday, February 26, 2012

Wisdom from the Past and Present

While reading some of the topics on old Factnet, I found many topics that are very telling of cult behavior in the ntcc.  Some of this stuff has been rehashed on the blogs fairly recently; and other things have been forgotten.   I figure now is as good a time as any to bring up some of this stuff.  Our hope and desire is that people that attend the ntcc or are thinking about attending will see the warning signs and red flags that are waving in their faces and get while the getting is good.  Here are some of the topics that are worthy of repetition:

 Purdy Pweez Pastor
 Massah May I ... ??? 
1.  Asking permission.  Pastor is it alright if I go over to another brother's house to fellowship with him?  Pastor is it alright if I get a ride to church from another brother?  Pastor is it alright if I call a former pastor or member of the ntcc church that I used to attend?  Pastor, is it alright if I go visit my parents?  Pastor is it alright if I go to my father's funeral?  Pastor is it alright if I take a week off and visit relatives on the way to conference?  Pastor is it alright if I use money out of the general fund to fix the leaking roof because you won't allow me to use any of the hundreds of thousands of dollars sitting around in an escrow?  Pastor is it alright if a brother answers the church phone when I'm using the bathroom and my wife is slaving over the hot stove and doesn't want to burn dinner? Pastor is it alright if I get a job that requires me to work a few hours on Saturday if it doesn't interfere with the church schedule? Pastor do I have to pay tithe on my income tax returns?  Pastor is it okay if my wife goes to the hospital to visit a sister by herself?  Pastor can I ask that almost divorced sister if she will talk to me 'on the wall' tonight? ~"Sure, brother, go ahead."  Pastor can I ask that single sister if she wants to talk to me 'on the wall' tonight?  "No."  Pastor, Pastor, Pastor?

The sad thing is that most of the answers to these questions are "No!" or "You are going to do whatever you want to anyway!" --  using fear to make you decide against doing what you think is right.

2.  Quotations:

 with his Rolex and
 diamond pinky rings
 all davis needs to
 complete his pimp
 davis outfit is the
 fur coat and hat
 ensemble ~ r w
 wouldn't want
 a n*gg*r to show
 him up, right? 
     a)  "You might as well get saved because if you live in this house  you are going to live by my rules."  ~The 'great apostle' [yeah, right, whatever] speaking to his adopted half-Filipina daughter in all his wisdom~

     b)  "No one on earth cares about souls more than I do."  ~another quote from R W Davis that could be true only if you look at people as money like rdub does ~ [ahem]

     c)  "Don't expect me to get all excited when you tell me your wife is pregnant."  ~R.W. Davis, with the exception of the birth of his grandson Grant Kekel.  ~

      d)  "...N*gg*rs..." ~ rodger wilson davis proudly proclaims from the pulpit his twisted view of all African Americans, including those he exploits as Uncle Tom token blacks. ~

     e)  davis taught he saw a preacher loading his wife in a fur coat into a Cadillac.  davis declared he wanted to "know what that man knew".  But davis was really saying he wanted what that man had (coveteousness / lust of the flesh, lust of the eyes, and the pride of life.)  And now he has it; thanks to his system of con-games. ~

     f)  "Everything I have now, God gave it to me."  ~RWD's quote can be translated:  Everything I own now was purchased with your tithe dollars .  He's not satisfied with the Jubilee model Rolex you already purchased for him.  Now he wants the Presidential to show off your sacrifice = stupidity.  ~

     g) "You must have taken a whole bottle of stupid pills." ~ rw davis rails on the ministers in another semi-annually required conference that forces men to lose their jobs and struggle on in poverty while giving all they have for another r w davis mansion to be built.  ~

     h)  "What is told to me in confidence will go with me to the grave."  ~RWD and others have betrayed Pastoral confidence of their church members and used the pulpit to publicly blast people on the very confessions they made in confidence. ~

      i)  "There is only one teacher in this organization, everyone else is just an extension of my ministry."  ~Rodger Davis ~ [how humble]

      j)  "Brethren, this organization IS Pastor Davis."  ~Joe Olson~ [Need we say more?]

Many of the above quotes were mentioned on Factnet by various people; but I and many others have heard them also.  We could write a book about all the material covered on Factnet; but we are going to keep this short and sweet.  If anyone would like to contribute feel free.

Monday, July 11, 2011

YOUR CHILDREN ARE NOT WELCOME in NTCC

 Why was it okay for
 kekel's kid to play ball?
 But a 'sin' for yours? 
We've all heard davis rant how YOUR "children hinder the work of Gawd"; and we know how davis forced all infants out of church into a nursery, teaching his bs students, "I'd never have a church without a nursery."    One time at the campground, during a small service of only building crew members, davis had verna remove grant-o from a service because the toddler called out "Paw Paw" (grandpa).  You get the idea that davis hates kids.  Unlike the Savior; Who commanded the disciples to allow little children to come to Him; and He laid His hands on them and blessed them.

Then there were the years before grant kekel's birth when children had to be perfect little ministers sitting silently and motionless through long services geared only for adults.  Once grant came along, however, the davis-deity pendulum swung the other way and all children were forced into the childrens' church venue...  Basically, in NTCC even children were not exempt from dangerous davis dogma.

One former minister testified to seeing davis jack-up a young teenage girl for playing sports as her parents stood by in silence and allowed it; the girl was in tears when davis was done with her.  But nobody peeped when grant kekel was playing football (#72) and basketball with his private academy's "Tarriers" team (to the tune of $20,000 a year; we might add.)

Charles Wright Academy #1 video link


Let's look at the bible and contrast God's heart to davis-dogma.
Most are familiar with John the Baptist.  God prophesied of his birth, the voice of one crying in the wilderness.  Before his birth, John's parents, Elisabeth and Zacharias went years without having children.  In Israel this was considered a very bad thing (a reproach).  Clearly God's Word teaches that children are a blessing.  The natural tendency was for others to look down on people who had no kids as if they were doing something wrong; maybe they had sinned and were being judged by God?...

Well, God was going to remove this reproach from righteous Elisabeth and Zacharias by blessing them with a son, John the Baptist.

This morning as we discussed these things, we saw the contrast in the biblical example of viewing children as a blessing and the NTCC warped teaching that davis consantly put forth that YOUR "Children hinder the work of the Lawd."  This erroneous, hypocritical (since davis adopted tanya reynolds davis kekel) and devilish davis doctrine was the root of the vasectomy rule and was brutually reinforced by publically humiliating couples with children.   How many times have we heard davis railing on pregnant women saying, "Lady, you're gonna have to answer to Gawd for ruining your husband's ministry?"  Women, our friends and sisters in Christ, were literally in tears over this maniac's railing accusation.  Some were brow-beaten into 'soul-winning' until the point of exhaustion, puking out the car windows or on the side of the road; and one that we know of had a miscarriage because she was pushed by the NTCC 'pastor' to keep the church schedule even though she needed bedrest!  All because daddy davis reviles them (and God) by bellowing how YOUR "children hinder the work of Gawd!")

Well, coincidentally, the wife of a former NTCC minister left some comments concerning a different thread called "Grant Kekel's Land: Part of the Arizona Properties"  Here's what she said:

Nicole said:
Convincing someone they will go to hell if they do not comply is a very powerful tool in the hands of manipulators towards those who are vulnurable. A lot of people wasted their lives in ntcc, their talent, and many missed out on their onlychance in life to have children. I was just thinking today about Katie Pellicia who was so brainwashed by ntcc, she actually considered and asked those above her about getting her tubes tied... at the incredible age of 21 or 23, early twenties.

Nicole said:
I'm currently attending culinary school. Do you know what my chef/teacher always tells me? Family comes first. Take care of your family before you try and squeeze anymore classes in. I've talked with a therapist about my marriage and she clearly saw how marraige was to benefit the church - it was not about us. That's why I wasn't even allowed to sit by my husband in the serviceman's home and why I wasn't even allowed to participate in church activities such as "soul winnin" with him. It's why military couples have to get to the brink of divorce before they can take a break from the so called "godly" work and schedule.

Nicole said:
My oldest son said many of those he knew thought he was extremely lucky when his step-dad finally decided to stop going and I (who had been patiently waiting because I did not want to lose him) happily agreed. Ask the real estate agent Cheryl Merz about how much ntcc children can do and why she feels she has to swoop in with her big money and pay for these children to go to chuckie cheese or just have a little fun because their parents are so broke.

Nicole said:
Your children are all you truly have in this life. I cherish mine more than life itself. I have saving accounts set up and I take them to classes to enrich their lives and help them learn things that may have not fit into the church schedule before. They play sports and they are learning how to have a happy well balanced life.

Don and Ange said
Wow!!!! Thanks for telling us about some of your experience and what you learned.   We think people don't realize the devastation NTCC inflicted on others. If it helps one person avoid the NTCC, to us, it is worth it.

We want people considering NTCC to know this group's history.  We want the kids who went through this mess to know:  YOU DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG!  We want the parents to wake up and consider what you are asking or have asked of your children.  We know there are powerful mind control mechanisms well entrenched in the NTCC CULTure.  We know how people can be convinced to do things that really harm their families and their lives in this unhealthy NTCC environment.  We want people to start viewing their lives and ask:

What does God want?
What does God's Word teach?

If davis-doctrine or any other doctrine does not line up with the Word of God, chuck it.  Set yourself free by knowing the Truth.  Jesus is the Truth and the Word of God.  Study.  Pray.  Act.  We know when you do this, God will lead you out of the NTCC to a place where YOUR children are welcome and willing to accept the grace of Christ rather than a set of rules that push them away, restrict their freedom, and hinder their relationship with the Lord.

Wednesday, April 27, 2011

grant kekel is Getting Rich Off YOUR Sacrifice: The Real Reason Why

The real reason why davis allowed the compromise in the ntcc and
the real reason why grant kekel is attending secular college is to
groom grant kekel to take over the
MULTI-MILLION DOLLAR  ntcc
FAMILY OWNED CORPORATION


Ranked 14th
 grant kekel's college 
Not the ntcc unaccredited 
bible school seminary.
But St. Louis University's
 John Cook School of Business 
Fully accredited & ranked 14th 
Remember:  It's not a church! 
It's a Business!  davis says so!
Right now grant is a frosh (2010) (freshman) oops   sophomore (2011)  oops junior (2012-2013) at St. Louis  University's John Cook School of Business.
After that look for him to further his business education with a master's degree.  Then watch and see if he doesn't take some law classes.

ntcc has some serious a$$et$; and r w davis wants grant-o to know how to protect them.  That's why those law classes will be so imperative.

It never mattered who grant thought he was or what grant thought he wanted to be.  Before the sperm ever hit the egg, that boy's life was graphed and mapped out for him.  And so were the lives of your children.  They were going to be oppressed and kept ignorant, by davis constantly 'preaching' against attending any school, secular or religious, not run by rodger wilson davis.  Face it folks, it takes control to run a cult.  And control requires indoctrination.  Hence the need for an in-house, members-only, closed sect so-called seminary where the doctrines of men are taught and enforced with rigor.  Just think about how it is in your ntcc.  Think about the times you heard davis screaming at folks for even thinking of improving themselves outside r-dub's strange sphere of influence.  It wasn't pretty.  Now look as grant kekel as he enjoys all the things your children and you were denied, thanks to grant's grandpa davis:

First let's look at the graduation ceremony from grant's private high school academy, the Tacoma based Charles Wright Academy, a prep-school for college.  This segment of training cost a minimum of  $80,000, not including the numerous field trips abroad and sports package for grant to play football for the Tarriers (sic).  Remember grant's grandpa and pappy speaking evil of other Christians just because the brothers wanted to listen to a football game?  How about the times your children were made to cry and feel like outcasts because ntcc 'preached' their man-made doctrine that sports could take you away from the work of the borg, oops, lawd.

  Click to view and / or purchase pic 1 of grant with diploma

Photo 2 of grant kekel in his Charles Wright Academy (Private High $$School) graduation gown ($80,000 - now you know why they are green!)

  Click to view and / or purchase pic 2 of grant in green gown

Photo 3 Submitted in comments below
  Click to view and / or purchase pic 3 of grant with his mamma's eyes

Now let's look at what they were getting grant ready for:  College - another thing they 'preached' against for you and yours:

From the St. Louis University (SLU) web site:

Grant D. Kekel
Freshman  Sophomore Junior @
John Cook School of Business @ St. Louis University

Tuition: $32,180 (2010-11 undergraduate tuition).
Financial aid: 95 percent of freshmen receive scholarships or financial assistance.
97%: Freshmen who receive scholarships or financial assistance
$19,539: Average yearly award package

Health-Insurance: All full-time graduate/professional and undergraduate students are required to have health insurance.

On-campus living: 91 percent of freshmen live on campus.  But we doubt grant would, since verna, rodger, mikey, and tanny all own so much real estate, including right there in St. Louis, (give us) MO (of YO money)!

Religious affiliation: Catholic, Jesuit and welcoming individuals of all faiths and backgrounds.

Location: St. Louis, Missouri -- in the city's arts district, five minutes from the Gateway Arch on the Mississippi Riverfront. A second campus is located in Madrid, Spain.

source home: www.slu.edu

academic calander: http://www.slu.edu/x22706.xml

housing costs:  http://www.slu.edu/x28477.xml

Photo of John Cook School of Business @ St. Louis University (SLU) from Wikipedia (same as photo embedded above):

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Slu_john_cook_school_of_business.jpg

In ntcc it's not about souls, people.  It's about a narcissist named rodger w. davis making a fortune and a name for himself.  davis will and has used everyone in his life to further his goal to be gawd.  If you don't produce, you will be cut off and sent packing.  By the way, there's your escape if you get tired of the lies and deceit, grant.  Just stop producing for granpappy and go get your own life. :-)  You may be surprised to find it is better to flip burgers and be your own man, than to have a silver spoon in your mouth that is no different than the ring men put in a bull's nose to get him do whatever the guy jerking the ring wants him to do.  Better to be a real man and a free moral agent than rodger's whuppin' boi.

Just our opinion.

Don't forget to check out the Brian Lee Photography Pics of grant's graduation (order one today).  And remember, your sacrifice enabled his ~$80,000 high school education.  Hope your kids did just as well as little grant-o and got to play football and basketball and study martial arts just like liddle grant did...  No?  You didn't have kids?  Do you still think rodger w. davis was right? ... ? when he screamed AT YOU "Children hinder the work of gawd!" and "Lady, you're gonna have to answer to gawd [face the severe wrath of gawd] for ruining your husband's ministry!"--both quotes by rodger w davis.

Side notes:

The Charles Wright Academy "Tarriers" -- Tarry till I come... Get it?

verna davis identifies herself with tenacious terriers after the infamous Pitbull Terrier, known for its ability to lock onto something and never let go.  If verna wants to identify herself as a female dog (uhm, you know the word for that) fine...  It seems the bible speaks of another woman, a wicked queen Jezebel, whose destiny involved dogs ...

And of Jezebel also spake the LORD, saying, The dogs shall eat Jezebel by the wall of Jezreel.
1 Kings 21:23

rodger davis has another opinion of pibulls --  That litter of puppies that rodger ordered a certain minister to kill by chopping off their heads with an axe... Yup.  You guessed it.  They were Pitbull Terriers.  Read More >>

The following video speaks for the American Pitbull Breed.  It also contains curse words in a rap song that accompanies the video.  You can mute the sound by clicking on the speaker icon.  It is a visually thought provoking video that applies to not only Pitbulls but also the the whole ntcc mentality.  Just consider the workers in ntcc as the pitbulls in this scenario and the ntcc 'leaders' as the very inhumane humans...  such a fitting analogy:

WARNING:  VIDEO CONTAINS GRAPHIC IMAGES OF ABUSED ANIMALS!

The Great American Pit Bull Terrier [sic] Watch On YouTube

Saturday, April 16, 2011

Life and Death in the New Testament Christian Church

During your tenure at New Testament Christian Church, you will be required to forsake all to follow your new god, the ntcc. The scriptures will be twisted to ensure that you abide faithful to only one lord, the ntcc. Every time you want to spend time with family, the ntcc will balk, spouting: "So likewise, whosoever he be of you that forsaketh not all that he hath, he cannot be my disciple." (Luke 14:33) And "He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me." Matthew 10:37.

After years of faithfully abiding and serving the ntcc, death will come for you.  But guess what?  After those years and years of telling you to dis your family, the ntcc will now expect them to pick up the arrangements for your funeral and burial or cremation.  "After all," they will say to justify their lack of care for you, "Let the dead bury their dead."

We've seen people who don't make extravagant claims about being super-apostles show more Christian character, absorbing the cost of caring for the remains of a friend's beloved pet when the animal passed away.  The veterinarian compassionately told our friend not to worry, the vet's office would take care of the remains.

It's good to know that in the ntcc you will receive less consideration than a dead dog.  Your family, whom you obediently abandoned to their own devices, will care for your final arrangements despite your alienating them in order to follow the dictates of a man.  But your ntcc 'family' will shrug and ignore your situation, searing their conscience and saying, "Let the dead bury their dead."

Should you be surprised by this?  After all, the ntcc did nothing to help or care for you when you were alive.  They really will care less when you are dead!  It does not matter that you forsook all to follow them.  It does not matter that you gave all you had so the rich could get richer.  In the end you will be discarded like a used diaper.  Because that's how it is in the ntcc.  Unless you are related to the nepotistic core group.

The ntcc bought their own private cemetery up on the hill behind the chruch behind the fence, the tabernacle finished in 1999 there in Graham, Wa.  You can be sure only a select few will be buried there.  Look for headstones with the following names only:

davis, kekel
olson, brill
johnson, kinson, ankenbauer
ashmore, difrancesco, jordan

That would be plenty to fill those plots staked out by davis and his cronies in their private cemetery.

But if you're not related to the money families in ntcc, look to the potter's field, the place where they cast out the poor dead.  And remember, your sacrifice made it all possible!  But that won't be remembered when you have a need, whether in life or death.  They will laugh at you as you stand in the soup line and they drive by in their Cadillacs (as davis has boasted); or they will blame you and say "your spending habits" caused your poverty (as kekel recently mocked the faithful, saying they became fearful, blah, blah, blah).

Well, don't worry.   Worrying would earn you the title of being "foolish and unlearned" (should you ask the questions that all men with brains and hearts ask "What if ...?") as kekel railed on Greg S. when he thoughtfully considered how to care for his wife if something should happen to him.

Now  ntcc's jim johnson sells insurance; so who do you think davis and company buy their insurance from? (At great rates of course.)  So they really aren't too concerned.  They're well covered.  But you peon workers must have too much time on your hands if you can sit and ask these questions.  Get back to work.  Don't you know people are dying and going to hell?  While tanya kekel goes shopping (but not for groceries; for antiques and crystal, and BMWs...).  And perhaps it is mikey kekel who goes golfing, since he falsely accused Casey Hayes of that very thing.  Hmmn.  Makes you wonder.

The bible admonishes us there is a season for everything:

  • What season of life are you in?
  • What season will come next?
  • Will you be prepared?
  • Why not?
  • What has ntcc done for you?
  • What have you done for ntcc?
  • Have you given them your whole life only to find that 
  • they could care less whether you live or die?

Points to ponder friends.

 How does ntcc see or treat you? 
Remember, if a righteous man regardeth the life of his beast, how much more  should we regard the life (or death) of a loved one created in the image of God?  After all, davis certainly made sure to take care of himself.  Why should you be thought "foolish or unlearned" for doing the same?




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Friday, April 1, 2011

Letters From the Past Part II

Recently, while going through our stuff, trying to get settled into our new house, I found a stack of letters, from many years ago.  After reading through many that were written by pastors and some by board members, I found this letter written by a dear brother and good friend.  After reading this letter I cried because of the internal torment he suffered and my unwillingness to help him.  I look back on my years in the ntcc and it is like a bad dream that you never wake up from.  While there was a lot of good, it was mixed with very bad and unhealthy teachings.  Good people were destroyed and many souls were cast into darkness after being taught that there is no hope outside of the ntcc.  We have made reference to the ntcc claiming to be "God's last hope on earth" and people like mike kekel have refuted this in word. However, in deed and through their preaching they have proven their arrogant stance on their own cult teachings and their practices of isolation.  The following letter was sent to me about twenty years ago:


Clicking on the letter pages will open them. You can enlarge the image using your computer's zoom controls.
(The Brother's name was taken out of this letter to respect his privacy; and I re-typed the letter because after scanning it in it was a little faded.  Also some smart phones do not support this type of image in a convenient fashion.  The letter is retyped word for word without his or his wife's name or address mentioned.)

Brother,
  Hello, how have you been.  I've really missed you over these past months, or has it been a year already?  Honestly it feels like several years to me.  I have finally made it up to Ft. Bragg to begin the "Q-course" for SF.  I report in next Sunday the 12th of March.  My wife and I found us our first house about 5 miles outside post off of Riley Rd.  It's a small 3 bedroom , with 2 bath's a garage, and fireplace.  We just have gotten settled in and everything put away.
  I'm looking forward to starting next week.  The first two months will consist of morse code.  I was assigned to train as a communications sergeant, 18E.  I purchased some audio tapes from Radio Shack on learning morse code.  It has got to be the most aggravating thing that I have ever attempted to do.  I'm at 5 wpm. yet it;s going to take 14 wpm to pass the course.
  The Suzuki Samuari is running as good as ever.  I haven't found the time or the facilities to paint my tiger stripes on it yet, but I will get around to it eventually.  That's a tuff little 4+4, I have had it down many a tank trails on Ft. Stewart.  It's only gotten stuck once, or should I say buried.
  We finally bought us a computer this past Christmas.  It's a Packard Bell, Legend 10CD if that might help for a description.  We purchased it as a package deal with a printer, speakers, and a start up kit that included a mouse etc.  It came with about 10, or 11 CD's including MS-DOS, Windows, Cd-ROM, and some other junk that IM yet to even begin to figure out, or understand.  Prodigy is really interesting I have been toying around with that every now and then.  If you have it maybe we could synchronize a date, time , and a room to utilize the "Chat" line.
  I went back to the church this past summer and tried to make things right with Rev. Dennis.  I think that I did, however I just couldn't get myself to stay there.  It was a combination of conviction, and embarrassment.  I'm writing to you for your advice.  I've tried other churches that you suggested (Church of God), yet I just couldn't get myself to come back.  It just seemed too hypocritical to stay in other churches knowing the truth.  I've missed the church.  I feel like something inside of me has been ripped out.  There's not a day that doesn't go by that I don't think about all the brethren in Korea, the Church, and most importantly God.
  I never knew how hard life is without God in your life.  This past year has shown me how little a foundation I have without the Church.  I have uncovered a truth about myself through all of this.  That its that I cannot exist as a Christian, and expect to live a holy life without New Testament Church in me.  I don't even know if I can even pool myself with those known as the many that will come, and certainly not the few that will enter.  I'm leading myself, and my wife down a dark alley with many pitfalls.
  I feel as if I am dangling by a string.  I want to go to the Church here in Fayetteville, yet IM honestly scared that I will lose everything through another slap in the face.  Yourslf and Rev. Ballard are probably the only two who have seen the whole picture.  Rev. Dennis remarked to me that the previous conference following me leaving the church that my name was brought up amongst all the preachers.  What he said wasn't exactly complimentary as to the nature of the conversation about me.  I'm scared that I have been branded with a reputation as a trouble maker.  What do I do, what do I do?  I've got to seek God, and if it wasn't in God's will for me to go back to the Church then why am I so convicted, daily about returning.  Brother I can't get the church off my mind, it's almost a deafening echo of conviction.  Please tell me what I should do, I just don't know who else to turn to.  I have prayed, and prayed, but the answer isn't coming through except to get back in Church.  I just don't know how.  Should I call the pastor here?  Should I call Rev. Dennis?  Should I ask Rev. Ballard?  Should I just show up and introduce myself?  I just don't know mainly because I don't have any confidence in myself to make the decision.  But I can't sit here any longer and wait for fait to make the first move.  Please, tell me what you think that I should do, and if you don't know just let me hear from you.  Then maybe it will come to me.
Take care of yourself, and may God bless you.  End of letter
I wonder how many weeks or months this tortured soul went to the mailbox hoping to hear from me some words of comfort and consolation.  I wonder how hurt he must have felt by never receiving an answer from me.  I vaguely remember my own conviction of not writing back, gnawing at me for weeks and months after receiving this letter.  I was too caught up in my own "life for God" and the teachings of this cult to help the brother.  "They went out from us [...] because all are not of us"??  I_John 2v19  Or maybe they were blasted from behind the pulpit because they asked a question about tithe?? Or they said the wrong thing to the pastor and others might misconstrue it to be disrespectful??  This brother was no longer welcome and had deep convictions but was in effect dis-fellowshipped.  

"That its that I cannot exist as a Christian, and expect to live a holy life without New Testament Church in me."  This is a cult false-teaching that the ntcc denies teaching; but this letter is proof that they make people feel like the ntcc is God itself.  Jesus said, "If I be lifted up".  Not the church. Not the Pastor. Not davis or denis. This group has exalted their status to that of God himself and has excluded the ones that God loves and cherishes  the most from being a part of their exclusive group.  I'm so glad that I'm no longer a part of this hypocrisy!

This is coming from a person of Character that not only went on to finish the Special Forces Q course and serve his country among the elite group of Special Forces soldiers in the US Army; but recently I've found that he later went through OCS and was selected by congress to be appointed as a Major in the U.S. Army!  My point is that this person is not some weak-minded chump that didn't have the intestinal fortitude to make it through the Army but was in some way run off from the ntcc church pastored by denis (the RWD clone) when he was an Army Ranger assigned to Hunter Army Airfield.

I'm not sure that I remember what this brother's offense was as it was so many years ago; but he was not run off for fornication or drunkenness or adultery or witchcraft or idolatry or murder or rape or any sin that could be found in the bible.  I don't remember the exact reason; but it had to do with a disagreement he had with an ntcc teaching or something he said or did that was misconstrued as an act of disloyalty to 'the man' and the borg.  This brother told me the specifics; and I remember this much; but I don't remember the exact reason that he was cast out.   

In the ntcc there is no disagreeing with the leadership!  They spend years indoctrinating you into their cult.  During this process they make you feel like there is no hope in God outside of their fellowship.  Then they isolate you from family and friends and make you completely reliant upon their teachings for every thing you do in life until disagreeing with them is a sin.  This brother could not reconcile his past with denis and was afraid to go to any other ntcc church; because he knew that denis would spew his hatred of him to others; and that it would be contagious.  

Here we have a dear brother crying out for help, thinking that because he was not welcome in an ntcc church, that he would never find peace in God.  What did I do for him?  What could I do?  I was under the same fog, and thought that I was aiding and abetting a sinner if I helped him.  When reading this letter I could not believe how cold and calculated this group is.  I fit the mold so perfectly.  I could have written back to this brother and at least consoled him.  That brother's last words to me were, "Please, tell me what you think that I should do, and if you don't know just let me hear from you."  I will have to live with this for the rest of my life.  I allowed the wicked cult called the ntcc to destroy a soul; while I was too afraid to even write back and give that brother the least amount of comfort.

If you wonder why we are so passionately against the ntcc and its leaders, read this letter over and over until you get it.  This is not Christ.  Jesus is not in the ntcc; and I don't think He ever was.  This kind of thing went on and on for years and years.  This was taught in bible school and every preacher in the entire organization was an extension of r w davis and every member of every church was an extension of that pastor.  We multiplied the atrocities and sat back and let them happen under the guise of being faithful and loyal to a man.  Don't tell me that this group is a Christian bible believing group!  

I pray to God that people escape and find real happiness outside of this cult.  We lived in fear and watched as people were cut off from all they knew to be right and decent; because they questioned the cult leader or disagreed with their false teachings.  This same man, rodger w. davis is still running people off for less than sin.  There is sin in the camp at the ntcc!  And it is just as bad or worse than any sin that you can imagine!  I'm no longer going to sit back and watch them destroy peoples' lives.  I will speak out against them because I know that they are against God and the people of God!  

People leave this group in fear and they live in fear for the rest of their lives.  'Leaders' in ntcc are the ones that should live in fear!  They should live in fear of their sins being eXposed!  Don't believe them for a minute when they accuse you of betrayal and apostasy.  Are we negative because we tell the truth about this group?  Paul asked the same thing of the Galatians:  So then am I become your enemy, by telling you the truth?  Gal 4v16  I challenge you to read this entire thread and point to one false statement that we have made about the ntcc.  You can't; because everything we have shared is true.  So if we are unchristian for speaking the truth than what does that make the ntcc? 

I hope this brother has found peace with God and finds it in his heart to forgive me for being too weak to help him.  I hope also that our readers will see this letter and realize that we are not the same weak minded people that let things go without a fight.  We are fighting now and will continue to fight against the harmful and destructive practices of the ntcc.
  
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