eX-members' of ntcc Blogspot

A safe place for Xers to share their stories and heal.

A place to learn what it's really like in the ntcc founded by Rodger Wilson Davis;
and run by his son-in-law, Michael Craig Kekel,
the father of the one vasectomy-rule-exception kid in ntcc, Grant Davison Kekel.

Ezekiel 12:11

Say, I 'am' your sign: like as I have done, so shall it be done unto them: they shall remove 'and' go into captivity.

He Loves A House More Than God: Bonco Mansions of kekel (l) and davis (r)

He Loves A House More Than God:  Bonco Mansions of kekel (l) and davis (r)
"He loves a house more than God:" *Bonco* Mansions of kekel (l) and davis (r). Meanwhile, on the mission field: ntcc Missionaries to the Philippines "Rev. and Sis. Mackert ... found a place, 9 feet by 14 feet [9'x14'] and one bathroom. It is on the 6th floor and there is no elevator. The last place they had stayed, they had to share a common bathroom with the other tenants! Yikes! This place has their very own private bathroom, although the Rev. shared there is no seat on the throne, and no way to attach one…." from The Devonshire Files Sunday, May 28, 2006 Visit from the Mackerts (5/06). ** Should you know where the money ($$$$$) goes? **

Jesus In The Temple

Matt 21:12 And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves, Matt 21:13 And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.
Gal. 4:16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth? John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. 1 John 4:6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Skip To Blue Letter Bible Search Tool

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Monday, March 17, 2014

Protect Your Children - Barbara Norton Warwick Affirms that Convicted Child Rapist Johnny Jordan is Back in the NTCC.

Recently, in a painful phone conversation from Barbara Norton Warwick  in which she repeatedly railed on her abandoned and ignored daughter Lisa, Barbara Norton Warwick implied that Johnny Jordan was back as a member of the ntcc and was considered a 'brother'; and that he announced during Davis' funeral that he didn't rape Lisa!  This led Lisa to believe that Johnny Jordan the convicted sex offender was attending the funeral of RWD back in Washington; because Barbara told Lisa that Johnny announced it publicly during the funeral. This is troubling on so many different levels.  If it is true that Johnny Jordan is indeed back, then he is violating the conditions of his probation in Florida; and his electronic monitoring device [ankle bracelet] would have to have been cut or overridden somehow for him to leave the state of Florida without their knowledge.  We called the state of Florida probation office and they told us that to their knowledge Johnny Jordan was still in Florida as of the 5th of March.  This is the same Johnny Jordan who has been convicted on separate charges related to sex crimes against a child between the ages of 12 thru 17 years old.  The NTCC founder and Super Apostle which can't remember the last time he sinned, Rodger Davis, had molested and raped an under aged Pam Norton in the same time frame that Pam's husband Johnny was raping Pam's younger sister Lisa and Jordan impregnated Lisa by rape at the age of 14. Barbara Norton Warwick, who is the biological mother of both Pam and Lisa, ignored both of her daughters' pleas for help and instead called them liars, telling Pam, "With all the pretty girls, why would he pick you?" and abandoning pregnant-by-rape Lisa to fend for not only herself, but also her mentally challenged brother, Terry.  Read more...


Who Is The Liar?

If Johnny Jordan is not back in the NTCC and never made this announcement then Barbara is lying to cover up her sin of ignoring Lisa when she told Barbara that she was raped by Johnny.  Barbara has been pitching a major hissy fit ever since she was exposed for physically torturing her children and ignoring the sexual abuse and rape that was committed by Davis against Pam, and for abandoning Lisa when she was pregnant by rape by Johnny Jordan when Lisa was only 15 and pregnant, to care for her handicapped brother Terry.  Barbara would later turn custody of her handicapped son over to the state because she wanted nothing to do with him, but was having a good old time elsewhere.  What a good heart Lisa had to cope with all of the terrible things that happened to her while trying to take care of her brother Terry.  Either way you look at this, Barbara Norton Warwick is a liar and full of wickedness.  She is a very evil woman and has no business masquerading as a Christian.  You can put a dress on the devil and she still is the devil.  Barbara Norton Warwick can dress up like a holiness Christian, but she is far from it; and the ntcc continues to hide her sin and the sins of Davis and Jordan.  The best thing she can do is own up to her sorry lies and get saved, just like many others were often told in the ntcc.  "You just need to get saved".  How many times have we all heard that?  Barbara needs to hear that.  She needs a good dose of salvation.

Jordan is a Convicted Sex Offender; if in Washington, He Has Violated His Probation Terms From Florida, Call 911 !!!

If Johnny is in fact in Washington call the local police. He is a convicted sex offender and the authorities in Florida need to be notified immediately that the convicted criminal has violated the terms of his probation and they need to haul his sorry sexually deviant butt back to prison; and they should throw away the key.  Also if it is true, then that means the ntcc is once again guilty of harboring another sex offender; and all of those board members should also be hauled off to prison for allowing that predator to prowl around the church without even notifying people. That puts your children at risk People!  If they are considering him a 'brother' and having him make announcements that he never raped Lisa, then that means that they are extremely desperate and resorting to new levels of stupidity to cover up their involvement.  It also means they are endorsing him, further endangering your children.  They have reached an all time low on this.  If any of you ntcc'rs have heard that Johnny Jordan made this announcement,  would you take the word of a convicted pedophile and child molester to exonerate Davis from his history of molesting young girls?

Bend Over - You're Getting A Spanking!

And what is the deal with Davis and others in ntcc like kekel and other board members spanking other people's children?  We heard this from many people now.  More than 3 witnesses that are required by the bible have stated that Davis spanked many children that were not his own.  Don't you ntcc'rs feel the slightest bit alarmed that Davis has a history of bending young girls over his knees and pulling down their underwear to spank them?  Many of you out there were in the ntcc during this time and knew that Davis was spanking other people's children. Not only did Davis spank other children, but he taught other ministers to do the same.  Barbara also has a history of spanking other people's children - like the little boy Caleb; who lived upstairs from the Nortons in St. Louis.  If you allow your children to be spanked by Barbara, beware. She has been known to curse at children while she spanks them. It's got to be an evil spirit that resides in her to take pleasure in spanking children and it must be a horrifying experience to those children who have been spanked by her.  If you need a church leader or another church member to spank your children then you do not love them the way you should.  Don't allow this cult to destroy your child's life.

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Pedophile Pastors?

We are finding out that Davis was the worst kind of sexual predator.  People have been abused as children by Davis; and now that it's public knowledge, you must wonder why your church and your leaders are trying so hard to cover all of this up.  If you are so desperate that you need an announcement from a convicted pedophile to convince people that your Floundering Founder did not molest children, then you are truly misguided; and anyone who witnessed that or heard that Johnny Jordan made this announcement publicly, should be in a state of shock.  But it appears that many of you ntcc'rs are more content to blame the victims of these tragic deeds.  You are so blind that you would accept a pedophile as a 'brother' just to protect the name of your cult, oops I meant church; no I didn't; it's definitely a cult!

Snip Snip It's As Easy as 1 - 2 - 3 & More Kids Get Raped:
Maybe Barbara was lying about all this.  From what we can see if she did lie, then she falls into the category of "All" Liars and shall have her part where?  We all know where, it's the lake that burns with fire and brimstone, where the worm dieth not and the fire is not quenched.  [Rev 21:8 here, Rev 20:14 here, Mark 9:44-48 here].  But if she told the truth, and convicted child rapist Johnny Jordan was or is in Washington, that puts more children at risk We know he raped his ex-wife's little sister Lisa (1), but was unpunished. We know he was convicted in Florida for forcing sex on another child (2). And we know that statistics say he is likely to offend again if he gets the opportunity (3). We also know from statistics, that electronic monitoring has limitations.

There is a high probablilty that the ankle bracelet was cut or removed [read more...] professionally for the right price, paid for by the wrong people; and the possibility that J. Jordan was brought to Graham during davis' funeral to refute Pam and Lisa's Testimonies.  This seems a little far fetched in some ways; but let's examine it just for the sake of it being possible.  Let's say Johnny Jordan is sitting down in Florida on house arrest with nothing to do; and he Googles his name and finds out about his sins of the past being made public.  He calls Graham and finds out that Davis is on his death bed and was being eXposed by all of those X-ers who are eXposing davis for child molestation. Johnny Jordan sees this as an opportunity, and says to Kekel or Olson or his NTCC Board Member brother George aka "Bobby" Jordan, or NTCC Senior Staff and Seminary Instructor brother (Timothy) Paul Jordan, or NTCC Executive Board Member Brother-In-Law James Ross Ashmore:  "For 80 Grand, I can get my ankle bracelet cut and have it put on my dog; who also is under house arrest; and, if you are willing to shell that out and some extra hush money, I will even deny that these horrible crimes were ever committed. But if you don't pay my way, and my expenses, and some extra money for my troubles, I will come out publicly and say that Davis was a serial adulterer; and that he molested my ex-wife."  Sound like a conspiracy theory?  We guarantee you that stranger things have happened. [Read More]

Having shared all that, we personally are more inclined to believe that Barbara Norton Warwick is a habitual pathological liar, who curses while she beats children; and that she will go down to the lower parts of the earth defending Davis before she ever were to acknowledge the truth.

Barbara Norton Warwick who seems nice but reportedly beats children while cursing at them.
 barbaric barbara norton warwick
 "The Talk Of The Town" who
 reportedly beat children while
 cursing them and blaming them.
 She claims Kekel personally told her
 to tell Lisa to "Shut Your Mouth!" 

When she told me this, Lisa also
retorted, "WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO?
SPANK ME?" LOL She's not a helpless
little girl any more!  Is she!?!  Nope.

But if Barbara did slip up and accidentally rat out Johnny Jordan, we have done our part to protect the ntcc children from that convicted felon who is a sex offender.


UPDATED 3-4-2014 FDLE FILE PHOTO
JOHNNY DEAN JORDAN CONVICTED
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NEW CONVICTIONS IN 2013 FOR FAILURE
TO REGISTER SENTENCE-5 YR PROBATION
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Monday, June 10, 2013

Rodger Wilson Davis: The Adulterer

New Testament Christian Churches of America, Inc.'s Founder:  Serial Adulterer Rodger Wilson Davis, Who Claims "I can't remember the last time I sinned."
 Rodger Wilson Davis: The
Adulterer
We spoke with a man, who years ago attended the  ntcc seminary; which, at that time, was called the New Testament Christian College, in St. Louis, Missouri.  He said not long after he and his wife arrived in St. Louis, (less than a week after), they  and the couple they were staying with drove up to the church and saw a man holding a rifle on R. W. Davis.  There were loud words exchanged, and the man with the rifle and R. W. Davis left in one car, with rw driving and the other man in the back seat still holding the gun on rw.  The new bible school student, the man with whom I spoke, and the other brother he came to church with, got in their car and caught up with them; at which time rw motioned with his hand to go ahead, to move on; which they did.  Upon returning to their house, the other brother retrieved his gun and left again to find rw.

The man,  who was present and witnessed these things first hand told them to me in a phone conversation.  He told me the name of the man who held the gun on r.w. davis, and that confirmed the name I had already been told; others knew that davis had committed adultery with that man's wife (and then some).  This is the same event that I have previously discussed on The Dispatch, according to what was reported to me.  The two stories have one variation.  In The Dispatch article, those reporting the matter said that the betrayed man with the gun forced davis to kneel  and told him "You better pray."  The man on the phone did not see that.  His story, I believe, happened after davis and the betrayed man exited the church.  As the witness said, he, the other brother, and their wives had just driven up to the church (on Forest Ave.) and saw what is shared above.  In my mind, these stories are congruent and accurate, with only a slight variation in the time at which the witnesses saw their part of the event.

This true true story describes the fallout caused by the adultery that davis committed against only one family.  But there are other instances of davis slinking around doors of other mens' wives, all while these husbands were at work.  Other women have shared how they saw davis knocking on doors of young (still not legal adults) married girls who attended the bible school.  One of those young girls said davis committed illicit sexual acts with her, taking advantage of his position of trust and her naivety.  These other women present during that time witnessed davis entering this girl's home.  And, they said, davis also tried to get them to open their doors for him while their husbands were at work; but they did not do so.

Also, on a different blog, a former ntcc Bible School instructor and minister, Vic Johanson shared this testimony:

Vic Johanson said...
Speaking of RW's ways, I was talking to an NTCC escapee the other day, and he said that he was talking to a minister in his town, whose father was from St. Louis. He related that his father had donated his book collection to a startup bible college there, whose founder was implicated in some adulterous affairs shortly thereafter. He couldn't remember the name, so my friend said "might it have been Davis?" and the guy immediately replied "RW Davis."
We were just the last to find out; that information was hidden from us. All we heard was how the Carondelet church "didn't want holiness." The truth appears that they didn't want a philandering "pastor."
APRIL 05, 2012 5:05 PM
From original post at New Testament Christian Churches, The Real Story:
http://www.truestoriesoflifeinthentcc.blogspot.com/2012/03/keep-it-in-your-church-rwd-would-in.html

These multiple witnesses verify the adulterous nature of davis. He is an impenitent adulterer.  And what's worse is he condemns some men for lesser sins, while excusing others like phil kinson who have shown no indication of repentance.  God is not a respecter of persons:

Act 10:34  Then Peter opened [his] mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:

He can forgive all who are willing to confess their sin; as it is written:

1Jo 1:9  If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us [our] sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

The problem with hypocrites like davis is that they feel they have no need of a physician.  They think they are better than "sinners".  They are afraid to be around them, afraid their self-righteous reputations might take a hit.  But Jesus ate with the sinners:

Mar 2:16  And when the scribes and Pharisees saw him eat with publicans and sinners, they said unto his disciples, How is it that he eateth and drinketh with publicans and sinners?

Mar 2:17 When Jesus heard [it], he saith unto them, They that are whole have no need of the physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.

But davis is full of self-righteousness and pride,  boasting:

"I can't remember the last time I sinned."--r w davis brags.  But the bible says:

1John 1:8  If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

1John 1:10  If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

davis' boasting is outlandish (at best) or devilish deceit (at worst), and such boasting calls God a liar.  But the bible says God cannot lie:

Titus 1:2  In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;

 It is impossible for God, The Truth, to lie:

Hebrews 6:18  That by two immutable things, in which [it was] impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us:

John 14:6  Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Stilll, some men insist on living in deceitful denial of their sin.  I, just like Alan Parsons, wouldn't want to be like them either:

I Wouldn't Want To Be Like You by The Alan Parsons Project On YouTube

Instead, we cry out:

"Sir, we would see Jesus!" - John 12:21 (partial) (here)

One day each of us will die. Will you really hear "Well done, good and faithful servant...."? Or will it be "Bind him hand and foot, ... and cast him into outer darkness...."? (Matthew 22:13)  The saddest death of all was that of Israel's first King, Saul. For he was rejected by God. (1 Sam 16:1)  Yes, King Saul had been anointed. But he refused to obey. He couldn't see who truly loved him. As a result he hunted like a dog, the man, David, who fought for God, for Israel, and for love of the very man who was trying to kill him, Saul. David would succeed Saul as King of Israel, not due to any treachery of David's; but simply because God had so ordained it. When Saul was dead, David wept and lamented the loss of Saul and Jonathan [2 Sam 1:17-27].

I've lost respect for davis and his closest followers and supporters.  But like David, I will mourn their deaths and remember what could have been or should have been.  It's not that these men were not anointed; I believe they were.  But I believe they forsook that anointing and the God Who bought them with His blood.  They wanted the world.  And just as the audio version of The Pilgrim's Progress stated:  "Those who take up Christ to gain the world, will lose Christ to keep the world."  That's how I see these men who run the business, the organization called New Testament Christian Churches of America, Inc.  They would rather keep their money, than allow God to keep them.

Holding Onto God or To Your Confessions? on YouTube:

Want more Alan Parsons Project?  Try this embedded playlist:

More Alan Parsons Project Playlist on YouTube

The first video, a mash-up of Alan Parsons' "I Robot" and "I Wouldn't Want to be Like You" contains a screen shot (~5:57-6:00~) of the movie, "I, Robot" starring Will Smith.  The subtitle reads "One man saw it coming."  How fitting.  One man saw it coming, and didn't want to be like you, r.w.!

In Case You Were Wondering:
If so many people know about these acts of adultery, why haven't they come forward?  It seems that for some reason folks have largely remained silent about this.  Perhaps they discussed it more in different forums.  Perhaps they are trying to protect the victims.  Yet God had His servants record in the bible both  the names of  Bathseba and David when they committed adultery. Perhaps people  are afraid of the false ntcc doctrine that "touch not mine anointed" means one can't speak about an anointed one's sin?  The bible clearly shows "anointed" ones being rebuked for their sins.  Nathan rebuked David for his sin of adultery.  And David challenged Saul for hunting him for no reason.  But David would not let his men physically harm Saul.  That is the difference.  We know David obtained mercy despite committing adultery and murder by proxy.    David repented.  He did not continue in sin.  He obtained mercy and truly turned from his sin.

What will you do, rw?  Will you continue to play the "Games People Play?  Will you continue to spout off that you are the "Eye in the Sky" when that title belongs to Another? Will you seize this opportunity to repent?  Or will the "Time" come when we mourn you, "Goodbye, My Friend" like it says in the song or as Christ called Judas Iscariot "Friend"?

Mat 26:48  Now he that betrayed him gave them a sign, saying, Whomsoever I shall kiss, that same is he: hold him fast.

Mat 26:49  And forthwith he came to Jesus, and said, Hail, master; and kissed him.

Mat 26:50  And Jesus said unto him, Friend, wherefore art thou come? Then came they, and laid hands on Jesus, and took him.

Luk 22:48  But Jesus said unto him, Judas, betrayest thou the Son of man with a kiss?

I've come to wonder over the years why that man, Alan Parsons, didn't pull the trigger on old r.w.  I suppose 'twas mercy stayed his hand.  Yet 44+ years later, viewing, from hindsight, the aftermath of destruction wrought upon the untold unsuspecting souls by davis and his disciples, I again have to wonder; Would it have been more merciful to pull the trigger?  One down, thousands spared years of grief and destruction, of sexual immorality and perversion, of child and wife abuse, of fractured faith and frustrated futures.  Well, only God knows.  He is the True Eye In The Sky.  He is longsuffering, not willing that any should perish:

2Pe 3:9  The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

So how 'bout it, rahj?  Will you for once in your life repent?  There's still hope, as long as you're still breathing.  Right?  Isn't that what you or olson taught?  There's hope as long as still breathing.  Unless those breaths are taken from a person's death-bed or by the thief on the cross; right?  That is also what you taught.  Well, rahj, which way would you want it for you on your deathbed?  Why teach two things that contradict each other and try to claim, as r w davis so often has:

"I've never missed God."--by which Rodger Wilson Davis claimed to mean that he was infallible, never missing the will of God; but now I wonder if it really means he is no longer troubled by the absence of God from his life; rodger never missed God.

"All I do is by the Holy Ghost."--Rodger Wilson Davis' claim to infamy.  Puh-leez don't blaspheme the Sweet Holy Spirit, rodger, by blaming the Holy Ghost for all the wicked stuff you've done.  The Holy Ghost never told you to commit adultery!

And how about it, readers?  Did you, as I once did, hold these men in high esteem?  Were you, as was I, duped?  Don't despair.  The bible said every man a liar:

Rom 3:4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.

Are you broken by the borg?  Trust Jesus.  God is able to keep that which is committed unto Him:

2Ti 1:12  For the which cause I also suffer these things: nevertheless I am not ashamed: for I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day.

I don't hold much hope for davis and his impenitent ilk to repent.  But, beloved, for those who have been broken by the borg-scoundrels, I believe better things for you:

1 Tim 6:11-14
1 Tim 6:6-10


Monday, July 9, 2012

Jordans, Ashmores, and NTCC's Family Cover-Ups [Don't Forget DiFrancesco]

If you're family in the ntcc,  you can sin, commit crime, and be a hypocrite.  Don't worry; in ntcc, if you are family, they will cover it up for you.  If you aren't a blood relative of the Big Wigs, just be sure to bring in money and members to build the "organization", and they will cover for you too.  And in the convoluted ntcc family tree it's likely you are family.  You might even be your own grandpa...

I'm My Own Grandpa by Ray Stevens on YouTube


On a previous thread Anon. asked,

"A question, is Johnny Jordan the brother of Rev. Jordan?"

DnA say,

Link to story about Johnny Jordan Sex Offender While Working for New Testament Church of God (NTCG) which is now called New Testament Christian Churches of America, [NTCCA] Inc.

To answer your question, yes.

New Testament Christian Churches of America, Inc. NTCCA NTCS Seminary Staff Board Member Faculty Image of George Jordan
  George Jordan one of
Johnny Dean Jordan's
 NTCC Staffer Brothers 
George Jordan and wife Kathy [Gonzales]:
Convicted child rapist Johnny Dean Jordan is the brother of  George Jordan [wife Kathy].  George has served in many New Testament Christian Churches of America [NTCCA]  roles including Overseer, Director of Servicemen's works, NTCC Board Member, Missionary, and until recently, Pastor of ntcc's church in Phoenix, AZ [Glendale].

Kathy and George Jordan have two daughters.

The Vasectomy Rule:
George had to 'get permission' from R. W. Davis to get George's prior vasectomy reversed so he, like Mikey and Tanya Kekel, could have a kid.  George originally got snipped because Davis always taught it was a sin [for you] to have kids; that, in Davis' words "hinder the work of the borg Gawd".  Unless, you are R.W. Davis, who went out of his way to adopt Tanya Tanya Maxamillia Reynolds Davis Kekel:

Link to Proof Tanya Kekel Was Adopted

OR unless you are Tanya and Mikey (Michal Craig aka M.C.) Kekel, who did NOT get a vasectomy; because, in Tanya's words, "It's different when it's your own kid. [Grant Kekel]"  - shrug - giggle.  Sure.  Right.  Whatever!

Davis is a double-standard hypocrite who deprived hundreds of couples from, IN THE WORDS OF GOD, the "BLESSING" of having children....  ahem

NTCCA Phoenix, AZ:
And until recently, George and Kathy Jordan [with their two daughters] were working for the New Testament Christian Churches of America, Inc. (NTCCA) in Phoenix, AZ [Glendale] but have returned to the Graham, Washington region.

Teen Brides / Married Children in NTCC:
We believe that the Jordan's return to Washington is due in part to the fact they have young daughters - seen in NTCC as potential brides for the many single ministers who are many years older than these potential brides (another topic).

Cyrius Accident:
Another reason for bringing Kathy and George back to ntcc Graham Headquarters Region, is, we feel, to take over the work the Cyrius family was running prior to being severely injured in a freak automobile accident in which their car struck a horse.  Folks in Washington could probably say one way or the other if Kathy and George have taken over this work.  We haven't bothered wasting time trying to look it up on the useless ntcc church locator - ahem.

NTCCA New Testament Christian Churches of America, NTCG, NTCS, MBI Midwestern Bible Institute, Bible School, Seminary
Ashmores and Jordans Are Relatives:

Kathy [Gonzales]Jordan [husband George the spitting image of Johnny Dean, maybe they are twins?]...

Kathy Jordan is the sister of Helen [Gonzales?] [Duran]  Ashmore, whose husband James Ross Ashmore has held many ntcg / ntcc titles including being a Board Member, President of the Bible School / College / Seminary  Faculty / Staff, Missionary, blah blah blah....  You name it; he's done it.

Ashmores Cover-Up Son's Adultery:

When James Ross Ashmore's wife Helen's son, Jerry aka "Larry" Duran committed adultery and ran off with Rich Hampton's wife Penny, JR / Jim put a gag order on the parents of Jerry's jilted / abandoned wife, Christine, abusing Ashmore's ntcc Board Member office to quell this true story.

Ashmores' Partiality / Hypocrisy:

The Ashmores also disfellowshipped Helen's son Jerry aka "Larry"  and his large family.  (He married Penny; and they have a scabootle of kids), the Ashmores'  own grandkids.

We feel that was very hypocritical since Jim/James Ross Ashmore and his wife Helen have had no problem or qualms or trouble following the serial-adulterer Rodger Wilson Davis.  Why the double standard?  Why does Rodger Wilson Davis get a free pass to be an impenitent adulterer while you disfellowship Helen's own son and your own grandkids?  *Shaking Our Heads*

John Richard DiFrancesco and wife Lorraine [Duran]:

MyNTCC NTCG / NTCC / NTCS / NTCCA New Testament Christian Churches of America, Inc. Seminary Bible School Officer Secretary Treasurer Graham WA Phoenix AZ St. Louis MO
 John Richard DiFrancesco
 NTCG'S Best Kept Secret or
 NTCC'S Best Secret Keeper 

 Secretary Treasurer Smiling 
 All The Way To The Bank $$$ 
John Richard DiFrancesco:  NTCC's Biggest Secret Keeper:

Married to Helen [Duran] Ashmore's other kid, Lorrie [Lorraine Duran] DiFrancesco is the NTCC's best kept secret, or best keeper of secrets,  John Richard DiFrancesco.  Sure, you get your key from him at the NTCC campground; and you've seen him handing out mail in the New Testament Christian Seminary office.  But did you know John R. DiFrancesco has been an officer of the NTCC since it began?

Even back in the St. Louis days when NTCC was NTCG, John R. DiFrancesco's name has been on the list of officers for the organization, registered with the Missouri Secretary of State list of Corporations.  When the Feds come to hand out indictments, will John R. DiFrancesco be listed as a recipient or witness?  Tough to say.  In a sense it makes him a double threat.

As a forever secretary and or treasurer of the ntcg / ntcc, he definitely knows where the cash goes and where the bodies are buried.  With his looks, he's easy to overlook.  But when the reporters want information about the NTCC, they should start with unassuming-appearing John R. DiFrancesco.

Getting back to the question that started it all:

"Is Johnny Jordan the brother of Rev. Jordan?"

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 [Timothy] Paul
 Jordan NTCS
 Faculty - Staff 
[Timothy] Paul Jordan and wife Veneta: 
Johnny Dean Jordan IS the brother of Rev. [Timothy] Paul Jordan [wife Veneta] who for years worked as New Testament Christian Churches of America, Inc. Bible School / College / Seminary Staff / Faculty.  Last we knew Timothy and Veneta  did not have any children.  Perhaps Johnny Dean Jordan's story gives some clue as to why they had no children.  Perhaps T. Paul believed Rodger Wilson Davis' false doctrine that [your] "children hinder the work of the borg Lawd!"  Perhaps Timothy Paul, like so many deceived ntcc men, got a vasectomy to please Rodger Wilson Davis.  Perhaps by now Paul and Veneta have children; that may have changed over the years; but we doubt it.

So, in answer to the question that started it all; yeah, Johnny Dean Jordan, convicted child rapist, worker for r w davis, in St. Louis, Missouri, IS the brother of rev jordan and their other brother, Barry, and sister, Anita (deceased).

Johnny's also out of prison now.

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 Johnny Dean Jordan
 Sex Offender Mugshot 
Link to Story "Watch Out, He's Out"

Johnny Dean Jordan really didn't do much time in prison in comparison to how long he was sentenced for; but that's how it is in our prison systems.  Again, another topic.  *sigh*  Be sure to check out the stories in those links and read the comments.  There you will learn some really bad stuff goes on in the ntcc, and the board members, like Joseph Henry Olson and Rodger Wilson Davis fail to report the abuse.  In our opinion, ntcc would rather protect the name of their "organization" than protect kids from child abusers, molesters, and rapists!

Sunday, March 11, 2012

Johnny Jordan Sex-Offender

Johnny Jordan
sex offender
Florida mugshot
Johnny Dean Jordan, the brother of George Jordan, (Timothy) Paul Jordan, Barry Jordan, and their sister Anita, was also a member of the ntcc in the 70's and 80's.  He worked for years for  the ntcc under ntcc President, Roger Wilson Davis, and was married to the daughter of a prominent ntcc woman who remains with the org today.

We are leaving Johnny's wife's name out on purpose although some are privy to this info.  Johnny Jordan served 30 months of a six year term in a Florida prison for coercing a child to commit sexual acts.  This offense took place in 1992.  In November of 2009 and after subsequent non-compliance violations, including having a concealed weapon with ammo and failure to comply with sex offender re-register guidelines, he was again convicted on 4 separate counts.  He is currently incarcerated; and his release date is registered as 06/03/2012.

These known violations took place after Johnny Jordan was in the ntcc.  But how many took place when he was in ntcc that we don't yet know about?  Dirty old men don't start out old, but do have long lives of offenses before they are caught.  When did Johnny Jordan begin committing sex crimes?  What did ntcc do to help him?  From what we see, ntcc did not help him.  Because the ntcc leaders, in our opinion, are either enablers who hide sex offenders or are themselves guilty of sexual misconduct, as alleged about Davis.  Just look at how ntcc hid convicted child rapist Michael Fontenot (Story Link).  And now we see the same pattern with Johnny Jordan.

There are some very disconcerting details of Johnny Jordan's actions while in the ntcc that reveal his true character.  It was while he was in the ntcc that his wife came to him for help and confided in him that Rodger Wilson Davis had sexually violated her.  Johnny did not believe her.  She also went to then-time ntcc CEO Joseph H. Olson for help and was told to attend a different church.  She also went to her mother,  who was in the ntcc since 1969, for help and was told:  Why would Davis do this to you when there are so many pretty women that he could have?

We can't imagine how much hurt and pain this young girl went through!  Our views on this are that this woman suffered terribly for trying to get help and for reporting Davis' sexual misconduct.  And that was just the beginning of her sorrows.  We feel she was victimized by her mother, her husband, the ntcc CEO (Olson), and the ntcc President Rodger Davis.  Our opinion is that as a reward for covering up Davis' illicit affair with this young girl, ntcc returned the favor and covered up Johnny Jordan's record of sex offense.

When this dude gets out of prison, it's possible he can end up right back in the ntcc community as others have - like Michael Fontenot.  Johnny Jordan too could again become a danger to the ntcc children.  How many people already had him in their homes and trusted him around their children?  After all, two of his brothers have elevated positions as staff members of the ntcc.  Naturally folks would be more prone to not think twice about trusting such a man.  And statistically speaking, it is most likely Johnny Jordan was committing sex crimes from his adolescence, as is common of sex offenders.

**  UPDATE  **
Another story has come to light involving the abuse of ntcc  children:  Johnny Jordan raped a 14 year old girl.  The mother of this 14 year old girl, in the ntcc, did not believe her.  Rodger Wilson Davis also refused to believe her (in front of the mother) thus preventing police involvement; Davis did so to cover his own tracks, to hide Rodger Davis' own illicit sexual involvement with another young woman.  RWD's solution for this tragic sexual violation and rape of a child was to move Johnny Jordan to Washington.  


Our opinion of this story: We believe this story that was shared under conditions of anonymity. Unfortunately it fits an all too familiar pattern in the ntcc. When allegations of adultery were made against Davis in his previous church, Pop Gaylord told Davis to get out of town until things cooled down. Now we see Davis using that same technique in this 14 year old girl's story. Davis moved the raped girl's mother and Johnny Jordan out of St. Louis in order to let things cool down. We also saw Davis use this technique with Nichelle Tieman ~ moving their family to Portland, Oregon to hide her adulterous affairs. The pattern is way too familiar. The cycle of ntcc abuse started with its inception and has doubtless continued over four decades.

But even if Johnny Jordan wasn't caught until he left ntcc, it raises the question, what on earth is going on in the ntcc?  When people leave other normal churches do they have the same ratio of sex offenders, adulterers, homosexuals and child molesters as the ntcc has?  Do people start blogs when they leave the Baptist or Methodist churches, warning people to steer clear of them and telling story after story of the horrible things they went through as their result of trying to be a Christian inside of their corrupt organizations?  We haven't seen that.

In our lives we've never seen an environment that is as bad as the ntcc; where people were so prone to become sexually deviant.  There are so many divorces, so many adulterous relationships, instances of homosexuality, reports of rape, incest and molestation, sexual offenders, murder, triple murder suicide and the list goes on.  We  would venture to say that this stuff does not happen in the same percentages and ratios in other churches but does happen in cults like ntcc.

Do you still wonder why we warn people to leave the ntcc?  They preach against every other church and mock them for their religion while the ntcc leaders are the worst offenders of all.  They have a track record and a list a mile long of wrong doing, with no accountability and no financial disclosure, while a select few elite and pompous leaders are living large, with no want of anything, exploiting people in every way imaginable, answerable to no one on this planet Earth.  Maybe if this stuff gets out in the public they will curb their appetites for sexual gratification; or at least they will think about consequences a little harder before they take advantage of people.  Our guess is that as long as they can get away with this stuff, they will continue their exploitation and abuse of good people; and as long as they can benefit from a system that relies on people keeping information suppressed because of fear of reprisal or embarrassment, the outrageous behavior will continue.  

Corrections Offender Network

Inmate Population Information Detail

(This information was current as of 3/4/2012)

DC Number:                 774815 
Name:                         JORDAN, JOHNNY D
Race:                           WHITE
Sex:                             MALE
Hair Color:                  BROWN 
Eye Color:                   BROWN
Height:                        5'06'' 
Weight:                       156 lbs. 
Birth Date:                  10/23/1962 
Initial Receipt Date:    12/08/2009 
Current Facility:          BAY C.F.
Current Custody:         MEDIUM 
Current Release Date: 06/03/2012 

(Release Date subject to change pending gain time award, gain time forfeiture, or review. A 'TO BE SET' Release Date is to be established pending review.)



Aliases:
JOHNNY JORDANJOHNNY D JORDAN
JOHNNY DEAN JORDAN


Scars, Marks, and Tattoos:
TypeLocationDescription
TATTOOLEFT ARMCHRISTIE
TATTOOLEFT CHESTSCORPION


Current Prison Sentence History:
Offense DateOffenseSentence DateCountyCase No.Prison Sentence Length
12/31/2007SX OFFNDR FAIL COMPLY PSIA11/05/2009GADSDEN08000293Y 0M 0D
04/01/2008SX.OFNDR.RE-REGISTR.VIOL.11/05/2009GADSDEN08003033Y 0M 0D
05/01/2007FEL/DELI W/GUN/CONC WPN/AMMO11/05/2009GADSDEN08003103Y 0M 0D
10/23/2008SX.OFNDR.RE-REGISTR.VIOL.11/05/2009GADSDEN08005613Y 0M 0D


Note: The offense descriptions are truncated and do not necessarily reflect the crime of conviction. Please refer to the court documents or the Florida Statutes for further information or definition.
Incarceration History:
Date In-CustodyDate Out-of-Custody
01/18/199406/05/1996
12/08/2009Currently Incarcerated


Prior Prison History: (Note: Data reflected covers periods of incarceration with the Florida Dept.of Corrections since January of 1983)
Offense DateOffenseSentence DateCountyCase No.Prison Sentence Length
08/01/1992SEX ACT COERCE CHILD BY ADULT01/12/1994GADSDEN93004786Y 0M 0D




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How ntcc Works and Why:

It has been our position that the reason the ntcc has been so strict and that they have had so many rules is because the leaders do not trust folks to do what's right; because the leaders know if they were in that position, they would do the wrong things.  For example, the reason why RWD has to give you permission to talk to another woman or to be around another woman is because he himself can not be trusted in a similar situation.  He knows if he were allowed to be alone with a woman that he would try to seduce her and he would use money, twist scriptures to justify it and do anything in his power to achieve his selfish gratification.

The psychological effect of what the ntcc leadership has created, in my opinion, has fostered an environment where sexual misconduct is rampant and flourishing in the ntcc.  The ntcc has a history of adultery, fornication, homosexuality, child molestation and child rape in addition to all of their history of financial impropriety and physical, mental, emotional and spiritual abuse.

What makes it all even worse is that ntcc covers up the abuse.
I have been totally forthcoming about my experiences in the ntcc and have included names:


My ntcc Experience:
Don (center) as a
fresh-faced kid &
another victim of
ntcc sex abuses
I was a victim of sexual abuse in the ntcc while still in my teens, at my first permanent duty assignment in the Army, where two ntcc Pastors and Servicemen's home directors abused their position of trust and used the servicemen's home as an environment to abuse myself and others for their own sexual gratification.  There were other members to include a married brother and a future ntcc minister, who were also involved.  But they  have not admitted so publicly; after all, who wants to come out and admit this kind of thing happening to them?  While technically I was legally an adult,  emotionally I was still an adolescent and couldn't fully comprehend or understand what I was going through.  After enduring this abuse and repenting of my involvement in what had taken place at Ft. Bragg, I sought normalcy and true Christianity in the ntcc.  Eventually I learned to trust God even though I did not fully understand what I had been through.  While in Korea, a third pastor made sexual advances towards me; but I did not allow that man to use me the way the others did.  I outed him the first time he attempted to involve me in a perverted homosexual act for his own self gratification.

I had been in the ntcc for seven years when I arrived at Ft. Carson; and for some reason it seemed like everything I was involved in was prospering.  I had everything a person could want except for a wife; and I longed for a wife.  At 25 years old, I was an E-6 on flight status making good money; but I was still in subjection to a bunch of rules that prohibited me from having one thing that I really wanted:  a normal marital relationship with a wife and family of my own.  I had previously been told by ntcc ministers that I couldn't talk to certain women that were earmarked for bible school; which if you were not earmarked for bible school there was something wrong with you.  In the prime of my life when I was suffering in ntcc imposed celibacy, the pastor's wife, (Nichelle Tieman) started making sexual advances towards me.  At the first stages of this adulterous encounter, I failed (He that looketh on a woman to lust, hath committed adultery in his mind).  It actually went further than lust (touching and caressing);  but we didn't go all the way.  I wanted a relationship so bad, but not at the expense of throwing away my salvation; so I repented for my involvement in this also, and put an end to it by refusing future unwanted sexual advances and eventually reporting it to the ntcc leadership (Pop Gaylord).

I looked at this as an overcoming victory and was thankful that I made the right decision.  I then found myself in a perfect situation where I worked with a very attractive woman that was my same age; and we connected immediately.  I eventually got her out to church; and we were seeing a lot of each other at work and at the servicemen's home.  We enjoyed being around each other; and we talked about marriage and our futures which we thought could only be in the ntcc.

It was at this time that the unthinkable happened and our perfect situation was destroyed by the ntcc.  I've mentioned all of this earlier; and I'm not trying to beat a dead horse here; but I was totally devastated.  Everything seemed to slowly go down hill from this point; and after going through the ntcc motions for 6 more years I left, just about as messed up in the head as you can be.  You know the story, as we have shared it more than once.  That woman was Ange and after 20 years of separation we are now happily married for going on 2 years.  I'm saying all of this and rehashing it again so that people will understand why we are doing this story.


The hierarchy of the ntcc don't admit to their improprieties; and they try to hide their sin by covering it up.  Another sad but true story has emerged out of the sordid past of ntcc leadership; and I know that people are going to think that we are glorying in this stuff; and that we are evil for bringing this stuff up.  But that is not true.  What is true is that people need to know what the ntcc is all about and how they ruin peoples lives.

People that are still in the organization need to know this stuff, so they can protect their loved ones to include their children from future encounters with these people and their deviant behavior.  People who are not in the ntcc need to heed the warning to avoid this group that has a proven track record of fostering and hiding abusers like Michael Fontenot [story link].

We take no pleasure in these true stories but feel that people need to know this stuff.  Don't get mad at us, the messengers; but rather if you are going to be angry with someone, direct your anger to the perpetrators of this misconduct that committed the abuse and also to those that have been enabling it and covering it up for years.

Related Post:
Watch Out -- He's Out
Johnny Dean Jordan, convicted sex-offender
Released June 03, 2012

Thursday, October 13, 2011

Michael Fontenot - Child Rapist and Former NTCS Faculty Member Exposed by Bruce Smith on The Mountain News - WA

Bruce Smith, the reporter who did a five part series on the ntcc for The Dispatch, now has his own online News Site, called The Mountain News, WA.  We have included it in our "What's New On the Blogs" sidebar feature that shows new posts as they appear.  Bruce Smith's detailed work can be found at:

Michael Fontenot, Former NTCC Minister, Staff Member and Convicted Child Rapist Read More>>

Friday, August 5, 2011

What's Next for NTCC? Warren Jeffs FLDS leader found guilty of child rape: Sentenced To Life in Prison

This is our opinion, based on 22+ years of observing the truth about the ntcc.

ntcc is a fear-based controlling cult that destroys families.

ntcc leadership requires complete unquestioning obedience to themselves.

ntcc leadership controls its members limiting the flow of information.

ntcc isolates its members from non-ntcc family and friends.

ntcc is secretive.

ntcc's top leaders hide behind fences and guards.

ntcc's top leaders give no account of their time or whereabouts.

ntcc's top leaders collect your money but don't show where it goes.

ntcc's top leaders expect you to serve them.

ntcc's leaders expect you to mow their lawn and shine their shoes.

ntcc's leaders expect your wife to clean their mansions.

ntcc expects young teen girls to marry much older men.

ntcc's leaders have people lining up to do every domestic duty for them.

What's next for ntcc?  Video link

 That's NOT natural!
 Just the height difference
 is creepy.  The age difference
 is illegal.  (At a quick glance
 they remind us of the Tiemans.)
Marry 'em young.  Get 'em pregnant.  Lock 'em in.  It's hard to run for freedom.  Even harder if you have kids.

Breaking News:

Warren Jeffs found guilty of child rape.  Video and Story

Cult members seem unaware of verdict.  Link to Salt Lake Tribune Story

Please note:  Warren Jeffs was married to these girls who were under the age of 17 and yet is a "convicted felon".  Good to know some in Texas know that it is wrong to abuse a spiritual office, a "position of trust" and abuse it to manipulate children into "marriages" and rape.

Similarities of ntcc and FLDS (Warren Jeffs' group)

  • Leader is guarded
  • Leader lives behind a fence
  • Leader has complete control
  • Leader decides who marries whom
  • Leader marries minor
  • Other leaders marry minors
  • Women have no voice
  • Children have no voice
  • Information is controlled (no tv / no internet)
  • Clothing is controlled
  • Members live in communal compounds
  • Leader decides who stays and who is run off

The only differences we noted were 1) polygamy and 2) FLDS allowed no newspapers.  Everything else is exactly the same, right down to the white shirts and dresses and teen brides for the cult leaders!

You ntcc-ers should learn a lesson from the FLDS CULT!!!

The only reason ntcc is not EXACTLY like FLDS is because davis would rather have your money than multiple wives and children!

Admit it.  If davis told you it was okay for your daughter to marry when she is only 14, you would allow it.  Hasn't it already happened in ntcc?  But know this, "religious freedom" is not meant to be an umbrella to hide law breaking.  Child protection laws exist to protect kids from the likes of davis and his blind followers.  Think about it.

Warren Jeffs Sentenced To LIFE In Prison for a Minimum of 45 years:
According to an article on CNN.com  Jeffs will serve a minimum of 45 years.  He's 55 now and will become eligible for parole when he is 100:

From CNN:

The jury sentenced Jeffs to life in prison for aggravated sexual assault of a 12-year-old girl and 20 years in prison for the sexual assault of a 15-year-old girl. He must serve at least 35 years of the life sentence and half of the other sentence ... The judge in the case ordered that the sentences be served consecutively.

Jeffs perverted his position as the head of the ... Church ... to "satisfy his own personal appetites and desires," ... .  Link to CNN Article with Videos

Interview with Brett Jeffs who was 5 years old when he was raped by Warren Jeffs, his uncle:
CNN Video:


We believe the same is true for davis and kekel and other high-ranking ntcc officers:  They perverted their position in the church, a position of trust, to "satisfy his own personal appetites and desires"!!

Think about it.  davis and kekel, olson, and other ntcc board members wield entirely too much power with absolutely no accountability.

As a result families are destroyed, faith is destroyed, and finances disappear into ntcc's coffers with no one giving any account.

This is unhealthy, ungodly, and illegal.  It must stop.  Demand retroactive accountability for all that these so-called 'leaders' have gotten away with for far too long!

CHILD RAPIST GETS LIFE IN PRISON!!
HE IS A PEDOPHILE, NOT A PROPHET!

Teen 'brides'?  Get real!  They are supposed to be kids.  LET THEM BE!

Saturday, February 26, 2011

kinson, kinson, you too have sinned...

 phil kinson leans 
 in to kiss and grope 
 underage debbie johnson 
phil kinson a child molester? By his own admission back-in-the-day, YES:


In this thread we look at two comments, one made by Angela R on a Dispatch article by Bruce Smith. And another made by Vic Johanson, a former NTCC Pastor and Instructor at the Seminary of the New Testament Christian Churches of America, Inc. (NTCS).

First, let's look at the comment Angela R left on the Dispatch:
M. C. Kekel and Phil Kinson in one photograph?


That is priceless!

When these two were in the New Testament Christian Church Bible School in St. Louis [called the Midwestern Bible Institute (MBI)], kekel and kinson were bragging about groping under-aged girls they were 'dating'.  blech.

Kekel's 'girlfriend' was 14-16 years old. 

Kinson's even younger.

Kekel was 23-25 years old.

Two other men, Vic Johanson, and an anonymous man, "remonstrated" with Kekel and Kinson, who said they would not stop.

The anonymous man complained to R. W. Davis who was the NTCC founder, Bible College Dean, and father of one of the girls; but nothing ever came of it.

In a normal environment Kekel and Kinson would have been put on the

sex offender's registry

for sexual assault on minors.


Not in ntcc.

NTCC PROMOTED Kekel to be the CEO OF NTCC and Kinson to pastor the largest church in the NTCC.


How sick!

All under-age girls in ntcc are seen as targets, ready to be married off as soon as their bodies are capable of bearing children or those "pesky laws of man" allow whichever comes first.

Don't let the humble-pie act fool you. These guys are sick wolves in sheep's clothing.

The only photo kekel and kinson should be in is a mug shot for pervs on the sex offender registry!


The comment above by Angela R was based on information shared by Vic Johanson in a comment on Deb and Greg's blog, New Testament Christian Church... Deborah's Witness.  Here are some excerpts from  Vic's comment:

Mike Kekel told me that he was making out and groping Tanya [davis]. I heard it myself, and so did another brother, who was so disturbed about it that he went to RW [davis] and told him about it. ...
Was she 14 then? ... 15 or 16 is more likely, but ... even a 16 year old being pawed by a man who is 25 is considered creepy by most people.
Phil Kinson simultaneously admitted to the same activity with Debbie Johnson (who was even younger). The thing that disturbed us the most was that when we remonstrated with them about what they were doing, they got defensive and told us right upfront that they didn't plan on repenting. That sent the other brother over the edge, so he narked them out. But nothing came of it, and they're big wheels in the org now.

[Block quoted material is from a comment by Vic Johanson, former ntcc pastor, and former instructor at New Testament Christian Seminary of the New Testament Christian Churches of America, Inc., headquartered in Graham, Washington, with deep roots in St. Louis, Missouri.]
phil kinson and his wife debbie johnson (yes the General Overseer's daughter "emphatically deny" that this "groping" happened...  was phil lying then to Vic Johanson; or are the kinson's lying now to Bruce Smith, the reporter for the Dispatch, when he questions them about these events? 

If phil kinson lied when he "simultaneously admitted to the same activity with Debbie Johnson (who was "even younger" [than 14-16 years])" then phil kinson is guilty of lying to Vic Johanson and the "other brother"; who was so sure that kinson and kekel were telling the truth while boasting of their "groping" these underage daughters of ntcc board members that this "other brother" actually reported the matter to rodger w. davis, "But nothing came of it, and they're big wheels in the org now."

So either LYING about sexual conquest of underage girls or ENGAGING in the sexual conquest of underage girls is a fast-track to getting promoted to the top of the ntcc pyramid!

Let's look at how most people respond to an adult male who approaches a 13 year old girl about "marriage" and sex:

Mom Saves Daughter From Child Molester - Link

This article appeared in "The Stir" an online forum for Cafe Moms.

In it, a 13 year old girl is approached by an adult male who tries to woo her. She wisely runs home to mom. In ntcc, the mom would pat her hand and tell her it's okay to marry young, Pastor Davis said so. But in the real world, any man approaching a 13 year old girl would be in big trouble. Click the link and read the article:

"Mom Saves Daughter From Child Molester"

Also, watch the News Report Video Link:

According to the video, this arrested man had said:  "I want to marry the redhead."  When the young girl's mother told him she was only 13, he replied,

"I don't care.  Will somebody sign a paper so I can marry her?"  **That sounds just like the ntcc borg, where twenty-something year-old ministers "court/date" and marry[!!] teenage minor girls and have to go to Missouri where they can marry a girl of 16 years of age if her parents sign a permission slip!**

According to police:  "The guy told the officers ... he wanted to marry this 13 year old girl ... this child."

Do you really want to entrust the keeping of your souls to men like davis, kekel, and kinson who have such screwy ethics that they think it's okay for twenty-something year-od men to date, kiss, and grope young teenage minor girls?


Haven't we all been taught that "little things matter"?

Groping a young girl when you are an adult man is a BIG THING!

Why be part of an organization that promotes child molesters?

Think about it.

Update:

Now we see the cycle of abuse continues and ntcc once again promotes Phil Kinson after he is caught coming out of a whore house in Japan:



Phil Kinson's Adultery Impacts Moreno Murders: click here

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