A Closer Look at The Revelation of Ashmore

How deep does the hypocrisy run in Ashmore's church?  Let's refresh our memories with the little excerpt we got from Ashmore's Commentary blog. We are going to break this down sentence by sentence:

""COME OUT OF HER MY PEOPLE! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES! RUN FROM THE ANGER OF THE LORD!" Jer. 51:45

So, now, that Ashmore has left, we find him warning others through what appears to be some kind of prophesy of doom.  Run for your lives, he says in capital letters.  Now that I've left after 40 years of abusing people, You need to run like I did from the anger of the Lord.  Are we really supposed to run from the anger of the Lord?  How about Repenting and making things right with the Lord and the many people you hurt, JRA?  Come out of 'Her' my people.  What 'her' is he referring to? The whore is what he says later.  So now all of a sudden the ntcc is the Whore once he decides to leave for a bigger piece of the pie?

This Ex-Minister Flees the Great Whore of  NTCC to Follow The Great Ash-Whore: Out of the Frying Pan and Into the Fire.

"Thank God other ministers are coming to their senses and exiting the CULT!"

Now that you've decided to leave ntcc, it's all of a sudden a cult?  This whole paragraph sounds like much of it was plagiarized from the Xer blogs.  Thank God that "other ministers", (who cares about the church schlubs), are coming to their senses and exiting the cult, (in which I was an active leader of abuse for 40 years).  Thank God because now Ashmore can exploit them and use them to build HIS Cult's bank account from tithe and offerings.  You know, fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me.  If you join up with this Exploiter of the Brethren, don't be surprised to find yourself just as broke and worn out as you were in the ntcc!

"We feel great sorrow for those who are still blinded by their sinister methods and for all the church members who still suffer mental and spiritual abuse under the KING KONG type ministries behind some of their pulpits."

That's enough to make my oatmeal hit the wall.  Wow, wow and double wow!  Those sinister methods?  Which sinister methods might those be James Ross?  The ones that cause mental and spiritual abuse?  Like the mental and spiritual abuse you caused to people like Lisa, Moreno, Ken and so many others that have such fond memories of how you abused them?  King Kong type ministries?  Really JRA?  What type of King Kong ministries might you be referring to? And why did you wait till RWD died before you got this revelation?  It seems awfully convenient that you hung around through all those abusive years and endured all of those sinister methods, and then just up and decided to leave after R-dub kicked the bucket?  SMH!

"Those who don't know what's going on are to be pitied for their ignorant continuance under the facade of a "holiness" organization."

Did you know what was going on during your 40 years of ignorant continuance under the facade of a 'holiness' organization?  What was your role in this organization during this 40 years of ignorance?  Do you really expect everyone to ignore your role in the ntcc and think that all of a sudden you've changed and now suddenly have everyone's best interest at heart even though you haven't admitted your role in the ntcc or taken responsibility for the many people you've hurt?

"We are hearing reports from many who have gone through hell on earth under the manipulative and controlling leaders they once trusted, only to find out later what they really were!"

Wow, James.  That's quite the narrative.  Where were you when all these reports were being issued about the manipulative and controlling leaders?  Many people once trusted you; I don't suppose that you put anyone through hell on earth, did you Jim?  We would ask the Moreno family; but you put them through such hell on earth they are now dead because of it!  "Only to find out later what they really were?"  Really?  What were you?  What are people finding out right now about what you really were?  It seems like you chose to be part of this bunch for 40 years until RWD died and there was no place for you among them any more.  Is that why you decided to 'run for your life'?!

"Spouses have been recycled under the sinister notion that one should leave and divorce their spouse if said spouse LEAVES the GROUP (even if they are still serving God!)"

Sounds like you've been reading our blog again.  Is this a new revelation about the spouses that were recycled?  What did you do for those spouses while you were in Board meetings witnessing the pressure that was being put on some of these families that made one person leave and another stay?  Who helped enforce this sinister notion, or who turned a blind eye to it for 40 years while so many families were destroyed?  Can you hear me now?

This String of Ntcc Ministers being Led by Ashmore are Walking out of the Ntcc and Into the Jesus Revival Ministries to Follow Ashmore who's Eyes were Opened After Forty Years of Walking Around Blind in Egypt, Or did he Really Have his Eyes Open the Whole Time?

"The Day of wrath awaits these "blind leaders of the blind" and may all whose eyes are opened flee this Whore while there is still time!"

It's a good thing that you were the only one that was pleasing in God's sight during your 40 years in the ntcc.  I guess the day of wrath is going to pass over you just because you left.  Were you not a blind leader of the blind yourself? Or were you different than all of your ntcc buddies?  When you make the recommendation that all whose eyes are open, 'flee this Whore', are you referring to the ntcc or its current leaders?  Were they considered to be a Whore while you were holding the bag and some of the highest offices and perks in the organization?  When did they become a Whore, after you left?

I'm not buying it.  I would have believed you if you would have left and sought forgiveness from the many people that you have hurt; but I'm not buying it now.  Instead it seems like you weren't getting the praise and payroll from kekel that you expected after davis departed.  It sounds like you weren't getting your piece of the pie, so you took your ball and went home.  Now you want to drag a bunch of duped ministers to follow you so you can continue to exploit them and won't have to work.

Bro Ken Exposes Sexual Predators Whom NTCC Hid and Helped (Allegedly)

Brother Kenneth MacPherson

After speaking to Brother Ken MacPherson over the phone we learned a great deal. Bro Ken was very down to earth and quickly endeared himself to us as a very likable guy, and was able to share more details of his situation directly with Ange and I over the phone. Some of the things that this brother went through were horrifying beyond belief. When you think you've heard it all, you find out there are more souls who have suffered unimaginable things and as usual their voices are ignored by the crooked and corrupt leaders of the ntcc.

With his permission we are going to share some more of what Bro Ken shared with us; but we are going to leave out the graphic details.  In Ken's first letter he summed up the best that he could, what he went through while attending the church and NTCC bible school.  Ken has had a stroke and it's hard for him to write.  He often shares written words of encouragement at his church, but is helped by the secretary who helps transcribe his words into writing.  Sharing things this personal in nature is something that he had to do without any help from anyone.  We think Brother Ken did an awesome job of sharing his original thoughts; but in our phone conversation he connected many of the dots, clarified some things, and introduced some very interesting facts.

Rev. John Rodrigues Saves Ken's Life:
Bro Ken was reached originally in a servicemen's home down in Ft. Polk, Louisiana.  Rev. John Rodrigues was the pastor down there in the late 70's.  Rev. Rodrigues is probably the only board member that I have any respect for in the ntcc.  I'm not sure he is included in the ntcc's future plans and is not listed as a current board member; but he has served on the board in the past.  I've spent a minimal amount of time with the Rodrigueses; and they were not cut from the same cloth that many of the ntcc preachers were.  Back in those days the brothers from the home used to go out and sing songs with guitars and tambourines and maracas while fellow-shipping, soul-winning and inviting others to church.  During one of these ntcc soul-winning sessions, Bro Ken was talking to a man and got separated from the rest of the brothers and was attacked.  He woke up in a bathtub hours later and realized what had happened.  He had been sexually assaulted and his description of what had happened was so horrific, that we aren't going to share the details. When he realized what had happened, Bro Ken slit his wrist but wasn't bleeding out fast enough; so he found a rope and was going to hang himself when Rev. Rodrigues found him.  Bro Ken shared that Rev. Rodrigues later told him that he cut service short that evening and asked the members to pray while he went out looking for Brother Ken.  He found him just in time to tell him that God loves him and he saved the brother's life that night.  Rev. Rodrigues didn't say, You are a filthy homosexual and that's why this happened to you, like some in ntcc did.  Instead, Rev. John Rodrigues did what a true Christian would do, and that was to console the brother.  Later on Brother Ken found out who the man was who assaulted him; and at his Court Martial the man confessed that there were 10 people who were involved in assaulting him!

Davis Plays The Blame Game:
Brother Ken was in the Army and was with the CID (Criminal Investigation Department).  When Davis found out the details of Ken's rape and what had happened afterward, he immediately flew down to insert himself into the situation in a way that is so despicable, and, sadly, so typical of Rodger Davis - with no compassion or human decency.  Here's what happened.  Rev. Rodrigues thought Brother Ken should go to the hospital and get stitches; but Davis did not want any attention drawn to the Servicemen's Home and didn't want anyone from post taking a closer look.  So what did Davis do?  Davis accused the brother of spying on the organization, grabbing Ken's elbow, squeezing it very hard, and demanding of him, "Are you spying on us?" - remember, Ken worked for the Army's CID, usually investigating people regarding illegal drugs.  Ken stated that he pushed Davis' hand off of him and said, "Not unless you are selling drugs around here."  What kind of nut attacks a rape victim and accuses him of spying on the church?  But that is what demonic davis did - trying to blame a victim of rape.

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Victim Blaming:
Asking questions in order to place blame on the victim for whatever happened to them.
What questions are victims being asked in the NTCC by its Leaders?  This Applies to both men and women.  Davis and others will blame victims so that they live with guilt and shame.
 Are you spying on us? 

"This is I" Beware There Is NO CONFIDENTIALITY
Later, after Ken got out of the military, he ended up going to St. Louis where he lived in the ntcc dorms and went to bible school under R.W. Davis.  This part of Brother Ken's testimony is filled with NTCC darkness and was not easy for him to share. The trouble started after writing what Ken calls a psychology paper, otherwise known as the "This is I" paper, in which Ken and others were instructed to write down their sins and past mistakes.  Our opinion is that Davis assigned this paper so that he could use it to his advantage and have ammunition against people to exploit them.  As so often is the case in the ntcc, there is no such thing as confidentiality like what is found in a normal healthy church. Instead,  Davis frequently broke the law and disregarded ministerial ethics by outing people for whatever they had written in those papers, or by telling everyone what they had shared with him in confidence.  Ken wrote in his paper that he loved a woman named Susan and had a child with her.  Later he spoke with Davis about her attending church; but Davis, The Match-Making-Manipulator, would not allow this woman an opportunity to become a Christian or allow her in "his" church.  If you ever wonder why there are so many homosexuals in the ntcc, you are about to find out why in this post.

(Homo)sexual Predators Protected and Hidden By Your NTCC
Bro Ken shared that in St. Louis, he was raped by Johnny Jordan in the dorm, was sexually attacked by Dave Peters, and was threatened with hell and homosexuality by Harold Batson.  Johnny Jordan attacked Ken while Jordan was hopped up on drugs and overpowered Ken.  Davis protected Johnny Jordan and match-made him with a very young Pam Norton.  Davis also tried to match-make Bro. Ken with a Hispanic woman, but that didn't work out.  Because in this case Ken stood up to the powerful cult leaders.  We're not saying that he didn't suffer a horrible cult experience, but on many occasions he actually stood up to the likes of Davis (by knocking his hand off his elbow), Ashmore (by refusing to shake his hand EVER), and Olson (which we will describe later on in this post). Many of us were not so strong.  But even a strong personality, when coupled with a sincere desire to serve God, and indoctrinated with the false teachings of davis, could be overcome.

Ken left the organization for a time but then came back because there were people that he cared about in the ntcc.  When he came back, he was in St. Louis; and Davis allowed him to attend Bible School.  If Davis had thought that he was a homosexual, davis wouldn't have let Ken back into the bible school.  This time around Ashmore was in authority over the bible school; and Ken had more troubles ahead of him. Ashmore seemed to be right in the middle of a whole lot of homosexual corruption but did nothing to stop it or prevent it from happening to others.  But you have to go back even further in time to see how homosexuality in the ntcc seemed to be like a cloud that followed Ashmore around everywhere he went.

Ashmore Allegedly Loves the Brothers a Little Bit TOo Much...
We heard that Donald Hummel and Perry Broadnax, who both made homosexual advances towards the brothers, were both with Ashmore in the early days of his so-called 'ministry'.  One man, whom we will leave anonymous for now, was in the original home where Ashmore was the pastor; and that anonymous man told us that Ashmore started the foot massage tradition that was later on imitated by other homosexual/bisexual ntcc Servicemen's Home directors.  While Ashmore was teaching the bible in the living room of the servicemen's home, with the bible in his lap, Ashmore would have certain brethren massage his feet. The guy who shared this with us asked us not to publish his name on the blogs; but he also said if ever needed, he would testify in a court of law against the ntcc.  My wife and I and another person were on a conference call with this man who kept sharing how he thought it was so weird for Ashmore to be getting foot massages from the brothers, and how it was weird for him to keep the bible on his lap like that.   Ashmore is also known in ntcc for his effeminate John Malkovich sounding voice and feminine mannerisms such as delicately folding his hands over at the wrists and crossing his legs in the way that is more often seen among women than men.

smAshmore:  Bashing The Brethren
Also in St. Louis, while Michael Rudy was allegedly cross-dressing as a woman and 'teaching' young children in the ntcc day school, disciplining them by having them lower their panties while he spanked them, we find that Ashmore himself was involved in something that stinks to high heaven.  After Johnny Jordan had already attacked and sexually assaulted Brother Ken, and Davis did nothing to correct Jordan or report Johnny to authorities, Johnny got promoted by Davis to work in the ntcc church office and to be married to 16 year old Pam Norton. And Ashmore allowed two other homosexuals to make advances toward Ken without any consequences against these men.  These two perverted individuals are David Peters and Harold Batson, who got a free pass from Ashmore.

Victim Blaming Becomes Bashing
Meanwhile smAshmore turned up the pressure on Brother Ken by bashing him publicly from the pulpit and lectern, finding fault with everything Ken did: Ken's shoes were never shiny enough; he needed a haircut; but when he got one he was still wrong; because then he didn't have sideburns; Ken's notes were never good enough; Ashmore would throw them back at Ken, the pages flying everywhere while Ashmore would say, "That's not what I said."; Ken's  homework assignments were also ripped up in front of other bible school students by bAshmore and on and on and on.  We've heard allegations of smAshmore targeting Moreno in a similar fashion and with a similar purpose - to run him off or get him out of the ntcc.

Families - Stay Away!  Impenitent Homos - You Are Welcome in NTCC
Why was Ashmore trying so hard to get rid of Ken?  Why was Ashmore harboring homosexual predators like Harold Batson and Dave Peters; who were all reported by Ken directly to Ashmore?  Normally people in ntcc attend only one of the ntcc chapels at a time.  Yet Ashmore allowed both Batson and Peters to attend both the ntcc Forest Ave. and Holly Hills churches.  That was unheard of in the ntcc.  Was Ashmore seeking alone time with these homosexuals? Meanwhile, all Ken wanted was for the woman he loved, Susan, and his child to be accepted by the church.  She wanted to come to church at first; but ntcc wouldn't allow it.  Does this sound familiar to anyone? Ken did all the right things.  He reported the sexual advances of Dave Peters to Ashmore; but bAshmore blamed Ken.  And even when Dave Peters started writing perverse letters to Ken, smAshmore kicked Ken out of the office when confronted with the truth.  Are these the actions of a Pastor that loves God and members of the church?  Is this normal behavior?  bAshmore blamed Ken and told him that it was his fault.  Do you wonder why innocent victims live in constant guilt and shame?

Ashmore Lied To Davis.  But Davis Believed Ken
If you look at the dynamics of what went on here, it's not hard to take an educated guess.  Harold Batson also made sexual advances and threats towards Ken.  Batson said he (Batson) was leading people to hell and that he wanted to take people to the deepest part of hell.  Ken did what he was supposed to do and reported Batson to Ashmore; but smAshmore told Ken, "I wish you would just leave."  We know that thinking for yourself is completely against the ntcc rules;  but you have to wonder why Ashmore would move these perverts around and protect them.  This is how bad it got:  When Davis caught wind of what was going on, he confronted Ashmore about what Ken had told him; and Ashmore lied to Davis, denying what Ken had told him.  But Davis knew better.  Davis believed Ken was telling the truth about Batson leading people to hell and didn't believe Ashmore. Davis even told Ashmore this:  "Bro. MacPherson has never lied to me."  Then Davis got Batson down to the office and Batson confirmed that he had indeed told Ken that Batson was leading people to hell and that Batson was a homosexual.  As a result Batson got kicked out of the church by Davis, who announced that night in church that Batson was a homosexual who was leading people to hell.

Now you have to break ntcc rules again and think and wonder:  Why was Ashmore trying to protect these perverts? Did Davis suspect that Ashmore was involved with Batson and Peters?  It didn't take Ashmore very long to leave the ntcc after Davis was reported as dead.  Perhaps Davis gave Kekel the lowdown on James Ross Ashmore; and JRA was given an ultimatum by Kekel.  Of course that's all supposition; but if you connect the dots between Ashmore, Hummel, Broadnax, Rudy, Batson and Peters, you would have to be naive and gullible to think that nothing was happening between them.  The proverb about Birds of A Feather Flock Together comes to mind.

We also know that people will vehemently disagree and try to excuse these poor ntcc leaders.  Well guess what?  How many times did Davis openly from behind the pulpit accuse people of being homosexuals?  He would preach, "If so and so was alone at a sister's house and didn't have sex with her, he must be a homosexual."  Sound familiar?  You know you have heard it yourself.  Maybe there's a reason why Davis was so homophobic.  He certainly didn't mind being around the alleged bi-sexual rapist Johnny Jordan, though; did he?  No, Davis made that rape of 14 year old Lisa Norton possible by match-making Jordan with Pam, Lisa's 16 year old sister.  And why?  Allegedly Davis was slipping in Jordan's front door while Johnny was at work for ntcc; during this time alone with Jordan's teen wife, Pam, Davis would allegedly molest Pam and then pay her hush money.  She told us she had so much money at times she would have more than Johnny brought home from work.  She also said that others sisters used to wonder how she could afford the nice things she had.  Wouldn't they have been shocked to find out!

Olson is the ntcc Hype Man Building Up The Illusion
What a sick bunch of deviants is running the ntcc.  And they all cover for one another.  Just look at how Olson would indoctrinate people to blindly accept whatever Davis said as if it were gospel. Olson would blather on, saying, "If Pastor Davis says the sky is green, the sky IS green!"  Ken once wrote a letter to Olson telling him:

"If you think the sky is green, just because Davis says the sky is green, You need to get saved.  You are reading a different bible than I am."  Ken let Olson know the simple truth about what is not in the bible. 

We all heard Olson tell that green-sky lie on numerous occasions.  Oh brother!    What a load of nonsense designed to blind people and get them to believe a lie.

In The NTCC The Sky is Green if RWD says so.
But that's a lie.  It is cult indoctrination to get you to accept the pastor's word AS IF it were the gospel truth.
Don't be deceived.

Davis Did Have A TV in His House - While He Preached Against TV
Talking to Ken, he revealed other secrets that were verified by a second witness. We heard from Julie St. Clair that Davis had a TV in his house.  She saw it and got abused for mentioning it to her 'parents' Ralph and Joan. Others came on the blog and said, I've cleaned Davis' house and never saw a TV.  Well, maybe they were speaking about one of Davis' other houses, since he has owned so many.  All we know is what Julie shared and what Ken shared with us that Davis had him come over to his house one time; and Ken followed the dog into the house and saw a TV.  Davis tried to make an excuse for it and told Ken that  TVs were not allowed in the churches or Servicemen's Homes because ministers didn't need to spend their time watching TV, but rather reading and praying and soul winning.  Davis went on to say that he would keep people informed as to what was going on in the world.  What a load of baloney.  Davis is quite simply a HYPOCRITE who says one thing but does another.

"She's Mine! Stay Away!" Teenie Bopper Tanya is Owned by Mike Kekel
(He said.)
Also there was some confusion as to how old Tanya actually was when she started dating Mike. Her age was originally stated as 12 or 13 and then that changed to 15 or 16.  Ken said that Kekel had a picture of Tanya that he carried around in his wallet and he showed it to him in 1979, and told him and other brothers not to talk to her because she was going to marry him.  This tells you that Tanya was somewhere around 14 years old when Kekel was claiming her as his own; and that is only if she is telling the truth about her age.  Do you think it would be beyond Tanya Kekel to lie about her age?  Who's going to verify it?  Tanya is known and proven to be a liar by the online form that allegedly she filled out to find info on her Filipino birth mother.  Ken said Tanya Davis (now kekel) looked like she was about 11 or 12 years old in the picture that Mike showed him.  I'm sure Mike wouldn't want the world to know that he was dating and planning to marry to a pre-teen, calling her "mine", when he is nine years older than she is.  Yuck.  What a perv!

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Let's play count the Lies.  How many lies can you count?  Tanya's Maiden Name Kekel? No. Her maiden adopted name was davis. Tanya's religion Unknown?  Her occupation Housewife?  Occupation of her Birth mother Ambassador? It begs the question, When was she really born?

Our opinion is that the kekels are liars, people.  Look at their mansions and their richer than rich lifestyles.  Mike didn't obtain all that wealth through investments.  If he tells you that, he'll tell you anything.  If you believe that, you'll believe anything.   But we don't trust them.  Ken also said that he never once trusted Ashmore; and so Ken refused to shake Ashmore's hand the entire time Ken was in the ntcc.

There were a number of other things that really impressed us about Bro Ken as we talked on the phone.  He is a Christian; he was a pastor; he still ministers through his words of encouragement writings; and he has a very good heart.  He told us that in spite of what Johnny did to him, he forgives Jordan and says that Johnny needed help but never got it.  Johnny had shared with Ken some of the hell Jordan had gone through; but Jordan never received any help, especially in the ntcc.  It takes quite a heart to forgive someone that has attacked you; and yet Ken has definitely done that.  Brother Ken also has a son that he has raised and protected; and Ken is a well respected leader in his church.  He maintained great integrity in the face of hatred and stood for what was right while so-called ntcc leaders went about to destroy him in order to cover their own sin and to present a facade of holiness Christianity to the world.  Ken went through it all and suffered all the things a victim of severe abuse has suffered but has survived it all with dignity and honor.

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"This is i" - Bro-Ken Survives Rape at the NTCC Servicemen's Home and Seminary St. Louis formerly NTCG Midwestern Bible Institute

Today we received an e-mail from a Former licensed and Ordained minister of 30 years, who was forwarding the story of Bro. Ken who was a friend of this minister back in the early 80's.  Whether you pronounce that Brother Ken or BroKen, both are correct. Ken MacPherson endured rape and assault at the hands of three individuals listed by name. He was further traumatized and demonized by the very individuals who should have helped him, namely, James Ross Ashmore and Rodger Wilson Davis.  Bro-Ken feels all this was the result of a psychology paper assigned in the NTCC which, during the nineties, was called the "This Is I" paper.  In it the students were supposed to list their sins and life before coming to Christ for salvation. I never understood why a Christian would demand that from another Christian.  The blood of Christ cleanses us from all sin; and God removes our transgressions as far as the East is from the West; He casts all our sins into the depths of the sea. 1 John 1:7 Psalm 103:12 Micah 7:19 here

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It is our opinion that Davis and other NTCC members exploited this information from these papers to harm folks.  Here, in his own words, and with his permission is Bro-Ken's story.  He wants people to know that his psychology paper was used to target him.

This is a hard thing for me to do and say but twice by 1982 I got raped in NTCC one at the service men's home while out soul winning and the other in the dorm on Eiller St, Davis kept telling me it was my fault, I deserved it, He told me the homosexuals are coming after me because I was living in sin.

 and   the the reason he moved me from Forest Ave, to Eiller St. I met Susan she was local neighbor around the church  and in 81 we had a son David, Davis knew this from the psychology paper  we wrote about our self's. He would not let her join the church Davis told me in the office he wanted me to go to Tacoma and Leave St. Louis behind but I could not have anything thing more to do with Susan, I said no He then said I guess I will tell every one you left because you wanted to be a Homosexual I said  whatever, I then said to him even though you know it is not the truth, he told me I made the decision not him, and then said that he could not have all the brothers finding local whores to sleep with.

In my heart I blame myself for so much   you have no idea. I let an un Godly man try and destroy me. make me believe that I was something I was not, and then only to find out from the blogs that my attacker got to rape one of the sisters it hurts so bad inside, I know its my fault, Davis did nothing to stop it.

Rape survivors feel shame and guilt for things that are NOT THEIR FAULT. NTCC Rapists blame the victims and assassinate their characters by telling lies about them from the pulpit after kicking them out.

 Susan left my son and I in 86,Because I went back to NTCC, If I was such a homosexual, and as you know they can't be saved then why did he let me come back? because he knew the truth, It was never about homosexual, it was always about  Susan, and by the end of 87 I left for good because Ashmore and I could not get along,

 I called him, Ashmore, a pervert and that he was protecting them, and unless you have been raped or molested, Julie St. Claire is spot on when it comes to the perverts, you don't have to be touched yet, you know you just know something is going to happen just the way they look at you or touch you. And for Lisa I wish Davis had put Johnny out, the way he did me, or we had the laws back then like we have now, I just wish I could have done some thing.I have so much more pain and guilt after reading Don and Anges blog, hear your story and Anges call of trumpet, 

Ange says, I want to apologize to any rape and abuse survivors that I have hurt by calling them to report rape or abuse in order to prevent future victims.  Those things are not your fault.  The blame for rape lies with the rapist. The blame for abuse lies with the abuser. I apologize to anyone I have hurt by calling them to action to prevent future victims. The fact is rapists cause rapes.

but at Holly Hills there were those brothers that treated me great, I may not have been as receptive to them as I should have and for that I'm sorry, but when you go through certain things, you  have a certain amount of disconnect with people, and then there it is the people you know you are going to have a problem,

Mr.. Peters was one of them not only did he make advances and Ashmore did nothing about it but to blame me Mr. Peters started to write me letters asking for sex and again Ashmore kicked me out of the office its my fault, that's what I get for coming back,
why does it have to be the victims fault, we already live a life of shame and guilt that can never go away. 

Support Male Survivors of Abuse. They look strong, but inside may be broken. Survivors: Know that you are not alone. There are people who care about you and about what happened.  It was not your fault.  Like this photo shows on its right edge, Trauma And Dissociation, it is normal for a person who has suffered trauma to feel separated or disconnected.  That is normal and in time the survivor can heal and reconnect with those who have proven trustworthy. Give yourself time to heal and do what works for you. Take time in your healing and grieving process. You deserve love and to be happy.

 and then there was

 NTCC Founding Board
 Member James Ross
 "Ashmore called me
 a liar he told me to
 get out get out get out
 I wish you would just leave,
 so I did, right out the door.
 Davis told [Ashmore] I don't
 believe you [Ashmore]. Bro.
 Macpherson has never lied
 to me [Davis.] why now[?]"
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Mr.. Batson it was a church night he made sex advances on me, it happened so fast I did not see that one coming, but he took it to a dark Place he told me he was leading people to Hell, I was in shock, I said to him you go after people for sex, and the what?
 he said I ask them about God once and if they say no, If Hell is what they want then I will lead them to the deepest part of it.   knowing this was going to be hard to believe, I went to Ashmores  office told him what happened, he called me a liar he told me to get out get out get out I wish you would just leave, so I did, right out the door.

then I heard brother Macpherson you don't go to church don't come back it was Davis he asked me what was going on I told him, we went in to the office he asked Ashmore he denied it, Davis said, so he did not tell you Batson was leading people to Hell Ashmore said no sir, Davis told him I don't believe you, Bro. Macpherson has never lied to me why now, Ashmore I don't know  sir. he told me go up stairs I don't need to hear this, Davis ask someone to bring Batson down, and that night Batson was put out of the church, for those of you who were wonder why he was put out. then I left in the January 88. some NTCC people will want to lie But you know he kicked Batson out.
(foot note) later on I ask Batson one time  why me,   He said because it was said of me I left in 83 because I wanted be gay. All because
one man tells a lie, and goes out of his way to make people believe  in that lie. But for the grace of God the many times I went to kill my self
and God had some one there to save me from trying to throw my self in front of the metro link train to hanging my self.     

In defense of Johnny he was one of my best friends I had, I still have a pen holder he made for me from his machine shop job he had.
we were both 5/7 and 150 pounds, but that night he was on drugs, and at the Eiller St. dorm Jonny, Dorsie, and Wells slept upstairs and I slept in the basement.  that night he wanted hang out with me while I typed my notes,  because he said he had taken something and did  not want the brothers see him acting weird, now please don't any body fool themselves, Johnny was not the only one popping pills, I got operated on twice and brothers would come to me for pain pills, but that night I don't know what he took, because on any other day I could throw him down not that night. at light out time everyone went to their  beds and he came back assaulted me.

two things I regret the most is the lose of fellowship of some great brothers and sisters some whose names I can not now remember
nor locate, and that they never knew my real story, Mark dally does know about my assault in the service men's home, because of some strokes
the other is my son David he feels he had a hard life from the time he was 10 until he left my home to be the man he is to day,
I never let him out of my sight, and had to always know the who the what the were the why  and when he would always say Dad you're the only Dad in America that acts that way, and I would always say I'm the only Dad in America that is your Father and I do it because I love you

and in the mid 2000s I did became a minister and my son and grandchildren were there I gave the church my whole testimony and I mean
everything the rapes the molestation, agreeing with Davis about the Homosexuality, NTCC, because I wanted all out in the open so nothing
could come back on me and when I got done my son and grandchildren came running up to me at the pulpit told the church this is my Dad and I love him, and at that moment in time nothing else mattered, as my son whispered in my ear if I had only known, thank you for protecting me the way you did. and the church said we love you to brother will you take the job, no secret ballet need and I said yes,
today I have step-down because of health reasons,   but  I do write Words of Encouragement for the church each week

Now you know my story because of the strokes, I did not know how to get on the blogs like Don and Ange, and I know there are people out there hate me because Davis and Ashmore tell them to and even after knowing the truth some will still not want to believe and that's ok because they will do whatever NTCC tells them to do.

But people need to know that are in NTCC when you write those psychology papers for them you just put a target on your back, Kekel and the rest of those  perverts are going to use them to choose their victims, because by those papers tell them what type of person you are and can they get away with rapping or molesting you or your children, and then their mind games begin they did nothing and you made it up.   

 Allegedly:  NTCC used the Psychology Papers  Titled
 "This Is i" to gain intimate facts about  people.
 Then the NTCC used that knowledge to  target
 those people or their kids for rape and  abuse.
 Then the NTCC blamed and ostracized the  victims.
 It's our opinion that the NTCC is wicked! 

To Clarify whose who, Ken added the following paragraph:

Dave Peters was part of Rev Jones church on Forest Ave, and went over to Holly Hills also, Harold Batson had been a student at Holly Hills under Ashmore, but Left school for some reason, he told me when he left   Ashmore liked him so he never put him out of the church, I found that to be strange and he also got to go to Forest Ave.  Which I thought was strange also how they both got to go to both churches, I could not figure that one out why.

In 86 at a low point in my life I went to Forest Ave it was late at night I was making one last plea with God before I was going to end my life, some one had called Rev. Jones a guy was on the property it was me, he came down  we talked for a while and then he asked me

to come to church, Susan would not because she was rejected before, so why now she said.  a few months later he wanted me to go back to the school, but it had to be under Ashmore, both Peters and Batson never put there hands on me until I went to Holly Hills, so for sure I know Batson was a student at one time but not sure a bout Peters, but this one thing he kept them around for some reason.

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B)  Sounds Cultish.
C)  I Read It.
D)  I was forced to have sex when I was only a child.
E)  I too was raped.
F)  I'm afraid to get caught commenting on this blog.
G)  Glad To Be Out of ntcc.
H)  I told ntcc church leaders but got no help.
I)   I'm Thinking Of Leaving ntcc.
J)   I am a woman.

K)  I am a man.

L)  In my opinion Ashmore is a creep.

Jordan Incarcerated Again!

 Mugshot:  Johnny Dean Jordan. 1-14-15
 The man who allegedly raped
Lisa Norton when she was only 14 and got her pregnant is in prison in Florida.
What if Rodger Davis had not hidden Jordan  by moving him to Washington years ago when Lisa tried to get help from her so-called mother Barbara Norton (now Warwick)?  What if Davis had reported this predator to police as the law requires ministers to do?  Instead the ntcc moved Jordan and now there are more victims and decades later he is in prison for failing to meet terms of probation from a sentence where he was convicted of raping another minor. Why do people stay in a church that hides sexual predators such as Jordan and Fontenot?  Now that you know the truth about this group; why do you stay? 

Johnny Dean Jordan is back in the slammer again!  The court documents simply state he violated probation / parole. But there is a new case against him - a dissolution of marriage - filed just prior to the issuance of the warrant used to arrest him.  It's speculation, but perhaps he failed to inform his bride that he was a registered convicted child rapist.  That might be the cause of both the divorce and the suspension of his parole and incarceration.  But that is just speculation. The dissolution documents state there is no child or property. Hopefully that means there was no child involved in this unhappy marriage. But it might mean something else, like there's no custody battle. We really don't know. But here are the facts, with a few lines highlighted, such as the jail address, date of the information, and some legal definitions etc.

From:  http://www.dc.state.fl.us/   Search Offender Johnny Jordan Birthdate 10/23/1962

Florida Department of Law Enforcement - Sexual Offender / Predator Flyer

Johnny Dean Jordan Date Of Photo: 04/03/2014 Click Here to Track this Offender Designation: Sexual Offender Name: Johnny Dean Jordan Status: Supervised - FL Dept of Corrections Department of Corrections #: 774815 Search the Dept of Corrections Website Date of Birth: 10/23/1962 Race : White Sex: Male Hair: Brown Eyes: Brown Height: 5'06" Weight: 158 lbs Jordan is registered as a Sexual Offender. Positive identification cannot be established unless a fingerprint comparison is made.

Aliases JOHNNY D JORDAN, JOHNNY JORDAN Scars, Marks & Tattoos Information temporarily unavailable Address Information Address Address Source Information Map Link 19078 NE Whitetail Run Hosford, FL 32334-3019 Liberty COUNTY Source: Dept. of Corrections Received: 04/21/2014 Type of Address: Permanent Show Map 12499 NW POGO ST LIBERTY COUNTY JAIL BRISTOL, FL 32321 LIBERTY COUNTY Source: Dept. of Corrections Received: 07/03/2014 Type of Address: Temp Show Map Crime Information - Qualifying Offenses Adjudication Date Crime Description Court Case Number Jurisdiction & State Adjudication 01/12/1994 SEX BATT/COERCE CHILD BY ADULT; F.S. 794.011(2)(b) (PRINCIPAL) 9300478 Gadsden, FL Guilty/convict 11/05/2009 SX.OFNDR.RE-REGISTR.VIOL.; F.S. 943.0435(14)(a) 0800561 GADSDEN, FL Guilty/convict 11/05/2009 Sex Offnder Fail Comply Registration; F.S. 943.0435(9) 0800029 GADSDEN, FL Guilty/convict 11/05/2009 SX.OFNDR.RE-REGISTR.VIOL.; F.S. 943.0435(14)(a) 0800303 GADSDEN, FL Guilty/convict 11/04/2013 Sex Offnder Fail Comply Registration; F.S. 943.0435(9) 1300080 LIBERTY, FL Guilty/convict 11/04/2013 Sex Offnder Fail Comply Registration; F.S. 943.0435(9) 1300047 LIBERTY, FL Guilty/convict Victim Information Gender:Unknown  Minor:Yes CAUTION! If you reached this flyer from any site other than FDLE's Florida Sexual Offender and Predator homepage, FDLE cannot guarantee the timeliness of the information you are viewing. To receive the most current information regarding registered sexual offenders or sexual predators registered with the State of Florida please conduct an "Offender Search" from FDLE's website located at http://offender.fdle.state.fl.us/offender If further information is needed, please contact the Florida Department of Law Enforcement Registration & Compliance Unit at (1-888-357-7332) between the hours of 8am and 6:30pm, Monday through Friday. Positive identification cannot be established unless a fingerprint comparison is made. Any person who misuses public records information relating to a sexual predator, as defined in this section, or a sexual offender, commits a misdemeanor of the first degree. Please see 775.21(10)(c) for more information.

From:  http://www.dc.state.fl.us/  Perform Advance Search for Johnny Jordan with advanced criteria set to "all" or "both" as applicable.

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DC Number:  774815 Name:  JORDAN, JOHNNY D Race:  WHITE Sex:  MALE Hair Color:  BROWN Eye Color:  BROWN Height:  5'06'' Weight:  158 lbs. Birth Date:  10/23/1962 Supervision Begin Date:  11/04/2013 Current Location: TALLAHASSEE Current Status: ACTIVE SUSPENSE Supervision Type:  SEX OFFENDER PROBATION Scheduled Termination Date:  11/03/2018

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Current Verified JAIL Address:
12499 NW POGO ST
LIBERTY COUNTY JAIL
BRISTOL, FL 32321

Aliases:
JOHNNY JORDAN	JOHNNY D JORDAN
JOHNNY DEAN JORDAN

Note: The offense descriptions are truncated and do not necessarily reflect the crime for which the offender is on supervision. Please refer to the court documents or the Florida Statutes for further information or definition.

Current Community Supervision History:
Offense Date	Offense	Sentence Date	County	Case No.	Community Supervision Length
05/03/2013	SX OFFNDR FAIL COMPLY PSIA	11/04/2013	LIBERTY	1300047	5Y 0M 0D
08/09/2013	SX OFFNDR FAIL COMPLY PSIA	11/04/2013	LIBERTY	1300080	5Y 0M 0D

Active Suspense - offender is temporarily unavailable for direct supervision during the supervision term, due to being in custody in jail or another facility, but is still being monitored by a probation officer for release, arrest, etc.

From:  https://www2.myfloridacounty.com/ccm/?county=39  Search for Johnny Jordan Birthdate 10/23/1962.  That will open a page with his name. Click on the open box in front of his name and click on the button "View Selection" to bring up the following summary page showing 3 open cases.  Use the links on that page to inspect the court documents for yourself.

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NAME ADDRESS SEX RACE CASES JORDAN, JOHNNY DEAN HOSFORD, FL 32334 M W 1      JORDAN, JOHNNY DEAN HOSFORD, FL 32334 M W 1      JORDAN, JOHNNY DEAN HOSFORD, FL 32334 M W 1 CASE NUMBER FILE DATE CASE TYPE STATUS 392014DR000089DRAXMX [14000089DRMXAX] 06/17/2014 DISSOLUTION OF MARRIAGE OPEN [PETITIONER=JORDAN, MONICA MARIE RESPONDENT=JORDAN, JOHNNY DEAN ] [JUDGE=UNKNOWN] LAST DOCKET DATE=07/10/2014 [Court Events | Finance Info | Docket Info 392013CF000080CFAXMX [13000080CFMXAX] 08/14/2013 FELONY REOPENED CHARGE SEQ# STATUTE STATUTE TEXT DATE PHASE 1 943.0435 FAILURE OF SEXUAL OFFENDER TO REPORT (F3) 11/04/2013 Court: Adjudicated Guilty [DEFENDANT=JORDAN, JOHNNY DEAN ] [JUDGE=UNKNOWN] REOPEN INFO: DATE=06/24/2014 REASON=Violation of probation/warrant/summons LAST DOCKET DATE=07/08/2014 [Court Events | Finance Info | Docket Info] 392013CF000047CFAXMX [13000047CFMXAX] 05/16/2013 FELONY REOPENED CHARGE SEQ# STATUTE STATUTE TEXT DATE PHASE 1 943.0435.14a Failure of Sexual Offender to Report Every Three Months to C 11/04/2013 Court: Adjudicated Guilty [DEFENDANT=JORDAN, JOHNNY DEAN ] [JUDGE=UNKNOWN] REOPEN INFO: DATE=06/24/2014 REASON=Violation of probation/warrant/summons LAST DOCKET DATE=07/08/2014 [Court Events | Finance Info | Docket Info]

Divorce Court Document:

Case Progress Dockets

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CASE NUMBER FILE DATE CASE TYPE STATUS 392014DR000089DRAXMX [14000089DRMXAX] 06/17/2014 DISSOLUTION OF MARRIAGE OPEN [PETITIONER=JORDAN, MONICA MARIE RESPONDENT=JORDAN, JOHNNY DEAN ] [JUDGE=UNKNOWN] LAST DOCKET DATE=07/10/2014 [Court Events | Finance Info | Docket Info]

ACTION DATE TEXT 07/10/2014 Event FINAL HEARING scheduled on 11/6/2014 at 1130 AM, MX - Judge MARTIN FITZPATRICK presiding. 07/10/2014 NOTICE OF HEARING 07/08/2014 MOTION FOR DEFAULT AND DEFAULT 06/30/2014 RETURN OF SERVICE (JOHNNY JORDAN SERVED) 06/24/2014 RETURN OF SERVICE (JOHNNY JORDAN SERVED) 06/17/2014 Judge: FITZPATRICK , MARTIN assigned 06/17/2014 Case 392014DR000089DRAXMX Filed with Clerk on 6/17/2014 06/17/2014 Assessment 1 assessed at sum $408.00 06/17/2014 APPLICATION FOR DETERMINATION OF INDIGENCY 06/17/2014 PETITION FOR DISSOLUTION OF MARRIAGE WO/CHILD OR PROPERTY 06/17/2014 FAMILY LAW FINANCIAL AFFIDAVIT (HERS) 06/17/2014 CERTIFICATE OF COMPLIANCE WITH MANDATORY DISCLOSURE (HERS) 06/17/2014 DRIVER'S LICENSE (HERS) 06/17/2014 NOTICE OF SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER (HERS) 06/17/2014 SUMMONS ISSUED BY CLERK 06/17/2014 Active Process CIVIL SUMMONS disposition on 6/17/2014

Our opinion is that barbara norton warwick should have reported jordan to the police when her 14 year old daughter Lisa was raped by jordan. Instead barbara told rodger davis. Legally, as a minister, davis was REQUIRED BY LAW to report this allegation to the police. But instead davis willfully chose to move barbara norton warwick, her daughter Pam, and her Pam's husband, johnny dean jordan to Washington state. Our opinion is that davis was deliberately hiding the alleged rapist from legal action.  Barbaric barbara's daughter Lisa, who was pregnant by rape and barbara's handicapped son Terry were abandoned by, in our opinion, this monster who calls herself a mother.   People, if your child reports rape or abuse GO TO THE POLICE!  Don't allow some religious huckster like davis to hide the rapist.  Don't follow anyone who condones child rape.  In our opinion that is the true legacy R.W. Davis - hiding child rape.