Endangering Children: Life in NTCC Inc., New Testament Christian Churches of America, Inc. Graham, WA and St. Louis, MO

NTCC has hidden yet another pervert; who exploited children by viewing child pornography.

Perverts like to get
 their hands on children
 by passing it off as 'tickling' or
 'innocent hugs'; but the truth is
 they are grooming the child
 for much worse activities
 including sexual abuse and rape. 

We learned of this story today, through a comment that we've copied and pasted into this blog post (see yellow letters on black background for the comment).  But this is not the first time NTCC has hidden a pervert.  NTCC has harbored convicted child rapist Michael Fontenot [read more] (twin brother of Louis Fontenot) [see pic] and NTCC has harbored convicted child rapist Johnny Dean Jordan (the brother of George Jordan (wife Kathy) and Timothy Paul Jordan (wife Veneta) (pics and stories here).

  

These men have all been arrested for these crimes.  Fontenot and Jordan have been in and out of prison for their crimes against children.  What is stunning about all of this, is the NTCC's persistent pattern of harboring and hiding those who hurt children.  We have these three public stories about child abusers.  How much more abuse has the NTCC hidden? 

When you read these stories, you learn that the abuse victims and their innocent family members were demonized by the church leadership, told to move on and "find another church", or run out of the church on a rail in the most abusive and vile manner (read more).  Meanwhile, the child abusers were molly-coddled, handled with kid gloves, and hidden within the church.  In our opinion, this group, NTCC, is not sound. Do not endanger your children by attending the NTCC or remaining with them. 

A child in danger rides a tricycle on the side of a road.  You wouldn't endanger your child by placing him or her there; don't endanger your child by placing them or leaving them in the NTCC, which has a history of hiding perverts while demonizing whistle blowers who report the abuse.

The comment below came in today, 9/17/16.

Rev Kipp had been in Saint Louis for years. It always weirded me out he wanted to be around children, mostly young girls. He was a single brother, just something seemed really off about him. At first Nichelle was like oh he us a great guy, and told my family how great he was. He always wanted to hug and tickle the girls, I was like stay away. One day I was walking down stairs and Rev Kipp came over when I was helping my youngest down the stairs. He tried to hug or tickle my 5 year old, Nichelle actually yelled at Kipp that day saying dont touch the girls, she was beat red in the face and very upset. She then yelled at me and told me to watch my children better, my youngest was only 2 and needed help going down the stairs, I turned my back for a second and Kipp was there by my 5 year old. Nichelle knew there was pending charges against this pervert, but blamed me for not watching my kids. And this pervert was still allowed to come to church. An older lady who attended the church was like I never had a good feeling about him. The leadership knew Kipp had previously molested girls, this time it was Spring of 2010 police arrested Kipp at his ntcc rental property there in Saint Louis. He had been viewing child porn. The leadership knew of the investigation but he was still allowed to come to church. I was blamed for not watching my kids. Kipp was a monster nobody told me what was really going on, it was in the police records, one of the Tiemans let it slip one day what he was arrested for after the fact. They thought we as people were dumb, they blamed me for not watching my daughter, nothing happened to them. It's just this monster named Kipp was always around kids. We were told he is a good brother, apparently not. After the police were involved he was a really bad guy. They harbored him, then kicked him to the curb when police were involved. They use people, they hide wicked, and if anything is done wrong, you feel like it's your fault. They've done it time and time again.

Saturday, September 17, 2016 4:28:00 AM

 Public Picture of
 Timothy George Kipp
  Picture Found on
 Missouri State Sex
 Offender Registry (Here)
 Not to be Confused with
Timothy or George Jordan 

We found this picture of the only sex offender named Kipp that matches the time frame and the crime he was charged with.  Does anyone else who attended ntcc during this time frame recognize this individual?  If any readers of this blog recognize this individual, please let us know if this is the guy who was identified in the above comment as a Reverend in the ntcc.   He certainly looks like the Kipp I saw back in the '90s in the NTCC in Graham, WA in the bible school (now called a seminary).  As I recall, Olson had Kipp stand and pray before the class began.  Talk about an endorsement!  And Olson, in the NTCC, is revered. People talk in hushed tones about how you can just feel the Holy Ghost dripping off of him.  Really?  Wouldn't the same Holy Ghost clue in a so-called man of gawd as to Kipp's perverse delight in child pornography?  Ahem.  People, use some common sense and stop believing the hype about these self-appointed religious hucksters.  And don't trust your children to strangers. Trust your gut.  Do your homework.  Ask if the church does background checks on those around your children. If not, keep your kids close.  Better still, get them and yourself out of this child-molester hiding group called NTCC!

NoT Qualified to be an Overseer's Wife: Nichelle Tieman Abuses her 2nd Daughter-in-law

The following story was sent to us by an ntcc Board Member's X - daughter in law.  We have published it in its entirety.  The author gives a first hand account of what it was like to be a mother of three children, a wife of an ntcc minister and to be married to the son of an ntcc board member.  We recommend that you take the time to read this in full.  If you are short on time and you wish to read the main points, we have highlighted  some of the more outrageous abuses and egregious behavior that indicts these ntcc cult leaders as a disgrace to Christianity and unfit to hold any leadership position in any church.  The author refers to the Board member's wife as "mother in law" or "his mother" several times throughout this post.  She refers to the Board member's son as "my ex".

 Nichelle Tieman, as she appeared in
 one of many ntcc Pasadena, TX, photos.
 Don't believe the smile.  This blog post
 shares exactly what kind of a person she
 really is; and it isn't funny or even Christian.
Nichelle is the "mother-in-law", "Overseer's
 wife" and "his mother" mentioned throughout
 this blog post detailing years of horrific abuse.
 The following post was written by Nichelle
Tieman's Daughter-in-law, Davy-O's 2nd borg wife.
 He has divorced her and re-married Amy,
 his first ntcc match-made bride. Ugh.
 As you read this post, understand that it is
 the entire ntcc system at fault for breeding
 an environment where such abuse flourishes! 

My Story

1. Beginning

I was invited when I was 18 at the commissary, the lady who invited me has not been in the church for about 10 years now. I started going in 2001.

My first pastor, had us “soul win” on post, I was once arrested with another “sister” for going door to door on post, this is an illegal action and he knew it, after speaking with the MP’s that day I realized that there were proper channels that could be taken if you wished to go door to door on post. My pastor at the time did not want to go through the proper channels. My baby was 8 months old at the time, I spent a few hours on the base waiting for them to hopefully release us. The outcome of this could have been worse, he knowingly put us in harm’s way.

2. Meeting the In-Laws

I met my in-laws a year prior to getting married to their son. I knew they were over seers and did not give them much thought. She was kind of nosy and asked a lot of questions. I thought you were just supposed to answer, because they are over seers and that is what you do. Being just a church member no one bothered me too much, I was insignificant to the big wigs. I do remember working 3 days a week in the children’s church, cleaning the church, always donating time or some financial thing to the church, it was expected. I did all the things that made me a good girl in their church, and when I had recently divorced, the big wigs took notice, their goal was to marry me off to some brother.

3. Marriage

He came to church with his mom and dad on a Sunday in 2006, I had several of my friends from work, and even a family member in service that day, I brought people to church. I believed I was helping them get out of the life of sin. He came in one Sunday morning with his mom and dad, he will claim I stared at him, or noticed him, he was a new person I had never seen before, I wasn’t checking him out as he may claim. I just wondered who this large guy was that just busted the tambourine during a song service, it was quite noticeable because the pieces flew all over the floor.

That afternoon his mother asked him, did you see anyone you were interested in, she was referring to me. My ex said there was one girl, but she had to be young, and he didn’t want another young person. That night his mother approached me and convinced me to stay for fellowship, at the fellowship, she started in with questions, how old was I, what happened in my former marriage, how old were my kids, and the list goes on. I answered, I thought it was wrong not to, the overseers were high up, and you knew it. That night during the fellowship he kept glancing at me, I left early and thought nothing of it.

Wednesday Ladies Bible Study rolled around and I went, my pastor at the time asked if my ex could have my phone number, I thought sure why not, maybe he will be a good brother. He called me within 5 minutes of getting my number. His mother gave me a huge gift basket 2 days later, and then came over with $100 the day after that saying these were gifts from her son. I have since realized if a man does this, run away. It’s a precursor to bad things to come. We communicated for 2 weeks when he asked me to marry him. I asked my pastor, he said this is so and so’s son, he will be great, everyone seemed so happy, I thought I trust these people, they want what is good for me, if they are happy it must be a good thing. I was 23 at the time, as single mom of 2 young children, staying home seemed like a better option than working a lot, so after 3 weeks of talking to him on the phone, I flew across the country to marry this man. Looking back on it now, I realize it was crazy, stupid, and foolish, but when you are controlled by a place like this, then you don’t think rationally or logically. I put my trust in people, and what they thought, I should have followed those strong gut feelings I got about the situation.

4. The Honeymoon Ended Quickly

We were married in 2006 and he flew off to war within a couple of weeks after that, within a month of being married, his mother made a phone call to me warning me about talking to certain just ordinary members about certain things. There even seemed to be a rift between my pastors wife and I that there had never been before. I cried after the phone call, I was part of this upper group now, and things were going to be a lot different. She held me to an unattainable standard, and it started with small things, your children’s hair is messy, why do you dress them like this or that, they look sloppy, and it just started as a small gradual drip, a drip of nit picking, fault finding, until one day it turned into a flood of unleashed emotion.

Later on, I realized my ex had been talking to a girl in another church, and one at a Pentecostal church, and his first wife was trying to make plans to get back with him right before we were married, I saw letters, overheard things from the church gossips, and realized I may have not been the one he really wanted.

5. Leaving My Home

I had lived all my life in one place, its where my friends and family all were, after he came home, within a couple months we were moving to 1900 miles away. The first night we stayed with the in-laws house, my ex was yelling at my daughter for something, she was only 2 at the time, and said she had to go potty, I asked him to let me take her potty. His mother jumped in and said don’t you ever interfere when someone is correcting your child, and proceeded to tell me why. I stopped her and said, excuse me, it’s my daughter, it’s my place to look out for her, and step in when I feel someone is wrong, because I am her mother. It blew up from there, I went to bed without even saying a word to her, I was already pregnant with my youngest daughter at the time, and I didn’t feel good, nor did I want to deal with his mom. I was shocked, because I had never experienced someone lash out at me so harshly, jump down my throat and order me to do something, I reacted and stood my ground, and she did not like that one bit. The next morning, with tension still heavy in the air, another argument ensued, her final words were do you want me to call the bigwig, to which I said, go ahead I don’t care. I had a letter of acceptance into seminary, I had been a good girl for 5 years, and in one morning, one argument, they decided I was not good for seminary. My ex hid the referral letter from my pastor back home, saying he had never gotten it, he also hid the acceptance letter to seminary from me, I discovered it a year later.

6. Pregnant and Stuck

I got pregnant after being married a few short months, I was in 1900 miles from home, and realized this situation was horrible, I cried every day, I felt like a failure. I wanted to go home, but at the time I cared more about what the church people would think of me, than my gut instincts. I wished I had never married him, I regretted it. It wasn’t just the finances, it was the constant phone calls from the mother in law, trying to tear at me. For a while my ex and I had started going to another church and our marriage improved, but then his mother called, and started being nice to me, started being sweet to me, Jr at one point was fed up and done with the church, I realize now, his mother used me to draw him back. I felt like I was betraying my pastor from back home and all the people who had loved me, so I stayed and went back.

The day I gave birth to my child should have been happy, I was talking to my step dad, and they accused me of talking to one of my former coworkers, and said I was going to try to cheat on my ex. After giving birth, I can guarantee no woman is thinking of wanting any man to touch her, or look at her. After my youngest daughters I requested visitors not come to the hospital, it was a difficult birth, her umbilical cord was wrapped around her neck, and I had hemorrhaged bad enough during the delivery they had to force drugs through my IV line to keep me from bleeding more. The room was tiny and crowded and hot, the only ones I allowed in were my daughters and the sister who had kept them for me. The mother in-law was mad at me for me refusing visitors, she said had people not been at conference, they would have all came to the hospital to see the baby whether I like it or not. It was my daughter, it was my hospital room, I should have been in charge of who could come there or not, this was June of 2007.

7. Difficult Times

We hardly had any money, I couldn’t work, and my ex had gotten laid up. My mother and family sent us some money to help us out. My ex eventually took a part time job at a video store, for a couple months, he delivered pizzas or newspapers, but not a good job, he worked at a coffee shop as well, but we were sinking fast. At this time I maxed out credit cards in my name to help the family stay afloat, even took a personal loan in my name, it was never paid back, he ran through that money like water and we were broke again. It was a constant struggle, We moved half way across the country in 2008 I was constantly being bombarded by debt collectors.

8. Accusations and Isolations

In 2007, my grandmother, who was dying of cancer at the time wanted me to come home to visit her with the kids. She paid for the plane tickets for the girls and I to come out there, my ex and his family refused to let me take my youngest baby who was 3 months old at the time, because they were afraid that I would leave and not come back. I was breast feeding her at the time, so I knew this would be very hard to leave her for a week. I visited my grandmother, my grandfather had given me a van so the girls and I would have a vehicle to get around in, we agreed to pay for the van as well, it never came to pass, and my ex sold it 2 days after my grandmother died, and pocketed the cash. I should add in as a side note, that my family never cared for my ex because of the way he treated me. I drove back, and got in on a Friday evening, I had just walked in the door, and all I wanted to do was hold my baby, I had missed her a great deal, I had been gone a week. My mother in-law informed me the baby was asleep, I said that’s ok, I will deal with her, I just really wanted to hold her, I wanted to feed her, I ached because of my milk. I went to pick her up, and his mother stated, my son and I discussed it and we decided you cannot breast feed your daughter anymore, she gets gassy, your milk is bad. I was tired and exhausted I had driven 1900 miles with a 3 year old and 5 year old by myself in less than 48 hours. I said I will feed my baby if I want, I went to pick up the car seat where my youngest daughter was and she grabbed it and started jerking on it, she would not let me have my baby. I let go and started screaming and crying, going I want my baby, I want to hold her, let me have my baby. My ex and his Dad left where ever they were and came rushing home, the mother in law played it off as an misunderstanding. I never forgot that day, it was sealed in my mind. What right did this woman have to tell me if I could breast feed my daughter or not, I knew it would not be good with her and I from then on out.

In 2008 my grandparents passed away in, they had raised me and were very much my parents in every way. I dealt with a difficult time, they passed within 3 months of each other, but that did not stop the things that were said about me, a constant belittling, you’re not good enough the way you are, even at one point being called fake. I had lost myself to this group of people, I didn’t think I was good enough just being myself, so I just was floating through life like a robot, showing no real emotion, they did not realize the pain I was dealing with on the inside from my grandmother dying of cancer, I just wanted to shut the world out for a little while and not be around any one. I needed my time to grieve, but was never really given that, life was to continue on like nothing happened. The day grandpa passed, I went soul winning, because well that’s what we do, what is more important than that?

9. Little Eye Openings

One day I was sitting in a bible study, and it came to me that I was not living my life, I was on the outside looking in, it was the oddest picture in my head, of me unfolding a box and looking down into my life, I decided then and there it was time to start being happy, doing things I wanted to do, laughing, smiling, enjoying life, to stop being so sad. It had been almost 2 years since I had truly had joy, or went somewhere just because I could. I volunteered, at my daughters school, I started setting little goals for myself, I went places around the city, I ventured out to do and see things outside of that church. This did not set well, so once again the accusations started. On one such occasion in spring of 2009 I was called into the Pastors office, and there in that office was my ex and in-laws, my kids were shuttled off to the nursery, and the door closed. We sat there for 2 or 3 hours, the accusation this time, was you wear mascara, there are no way your eye lashes are that dark, or that thick, you know you’re lying, just admit you are lying and you can go. I said no I’m not, I said if I were going to wear makeup I would dye my hair, and wear something to get rid of the bags under my eyes. Nothing I said mattered, there was a constant accusation, and it would not stop, they said we were just having a discussion, but when yelling is involved that is not a discussion. When someone is saying you’re a liar and you aren’t what are you supposed to do. This thing about mascara went on for a few months.

I almost left the church then because of it, I went to visit, my ex had said, well if we want to get to seminary, maybe we will have to go somewhere else, look for a place in there to rent. So I did when I came here, this time I told my family what had happened, and they said it’s a cult, you know it, you need to leave. They still had a strong hold on me, I didn’t leave just yet, I went back. My ex through me under the bus then, he said I can go to seminary, you’re the with the problem you know you lie, and you wear mascara, I’m good, you’re not, you need to figure out what you’re doing. I knew if I every left him, he would take my youngest daughter, he said that from the day she was born, I was afraid of many things. These people dig in, and put a strong hold on your life, it’s a cult, read anything online about the signs of a cult and this church fits it. It’s very hard for the member who is in to leave, and to break the cycle.

10. Seminary and more Indoctrination

I started Seminary of 2010 and finished in 2013, it was busy, there I heard the leadership get up and tell us what we could and couldn’t do, if we went camping on the weekend, we weren’t giving ourselves to God enough, but never mind the trips they took to with their families. The bigwig once said a woman that couldn’t play the piano was a hindrance to her husband and his ministry. When my ex and I first arrived there, we were confronted by the top dogs one night after service, and asked if we planned on leaving the church, I didn’t have a clue what was going on, my ex had been talking to a girl he was once engaged to about meeting up and leaving. She used to run up and jump in his arms and he’d pick her up and hug her, I wasn’t allowed to contact any former friends or coworkers, not even my oldest daughters dad, because well I may cheat on him, but he was allowed to do what he pleased. He had the passwords to all my accounts, my email, Facebook, etc. I didn’t have his, and if he gave them to me he constantly changed them. I was not allowed to know what was going on with the finances, or check bank statements. I had to get permission to spend more than $10, most of our marriage all but 2 years we were on food stamps, and state assistance, because he would get a job for a few months and then stop working it, it was said this happened because he was disable, they didn’t let me work because I’m a woman, it made no sense to me, why I couldn’t I am an able bodied individual, the mother in law really pushed government programs for us, like VA disability, and food stamps, but we were never to tell anyone we were on government assistance, we paid tithe on the food stamps as well by taking her shopping and buying her groceries.

There was a coworker of my ex when he had an office job, the ladies husband, and several of the people at the office said they were having an affair with this woman, they would go to lunch together, with no chaperone, he rode in her vehicle, and said they were just friends, anyone who knew this church knew this was unacceptable. I couldn’t even talk to a man without getting accused of doing something, and here he was riding in a car, going to lunch and other places with his friend, and many people, including her husband thought they were having an affair, these were people not connected to the church, people don’t generally think things like that unless you give them a reason to.

11. Horrible Holidays

Every year the in-laws would come home for the holidays, what was supposed to be a happy, family togetherness time generally turned into a fight between the mother in law and I, every year this would happen, the exception being 2011, there was a grim prognosis about my ex, his mother knew I’d return home and not have much to do with her. The last Christmas in Graham was 2012, we went on some trip out to the coast, to West Port, we were very tight on money. In seminary, you pay your tithe, you pay for classes, they may throw an additional class in there, so you will have to come up with the money on the spot to pay for that one too, and you pay a babysitter to watch your children at night time if they are young, you’re broke most of the time, unless you have a really good job, which was never the case with our family, we just didn’t have money. I volunteered at a clothing bank, and I got cloths for the girls and I there, I also volunteered at their school, I had never stopped getting out and giving of myself, I like helping people, I enjoyed being around kids, and spending time with my daughters at their school.

We went on a trip we couldn’t afford to spend it with the in-laws, I budget the money that was on the food stamps very wisely. I raised chickens, and grew a garden, and made everything from scratch just to make ends meet, she wanted us to spend $100 for a 2 or 3 day trip for groceries, I said that takes most of our budget, we don’t have that money, so a fight started on that end. We drove there on a tire that was bad, my ex said the struts went out, no the tread was bald on the tire and it shook the whole way, I was so scared to drive that car, but away we went. While there, we did not get along any better, by this time my oldest daughter was 11, the mother in-law accused her of breaking something, which she didn’t and she yelled at my daughter and she went on and on about it. She said I didn’t pay enough attention to my children, how could I let this happen, I woke up early one of mornings and went walking, I just couldn’t take it, I needed to breathe for a minute. She found fault with me for that, saying she was stuck taking care of my kids, I was gone half an hour. I was made to clean the entire place we were staying in, I had to do dishes, vacuum, and clean up after they all ate. I was told I was lazy, and that I did not help clean or pull my weight there, they all went to the beach, while I was miserable the whole trip. One thing after another, we got home, and I told my ex I would never go on a “family” trip with him again.

New Year’s rolled around, and I knew something was wrong, one night after a church service, we were called to his parents’ house, my kids were sent in the other room to watch a movie, and there I was on a couch by myself, with all of them looking at me, something I was all too familiar with, the mother in-law started in, why do you volunteer so much, why do you help at your daughter’s school? I said because I enjoy doing that, she said, you should help me clean my house, I helped my mother in law, you should help me clean, you spend all your time volunteering and not helping me. I said, I did help you clean your house, I still do I just don’t want to be over here all the time, I have my own family, plus I’m still in seminary. It blew up from there, all I could think as words rolled out of her mouth was Jesus sat there quite before them as they were putting him on trial, I just held my tongue, I said nothing else, I blink away the tears, this went on for a couple of hours. They said say something, now is your time to talk, I said no I have nothing to say, the mother in-law was so red in the face, and upset, she could not get a reaction out of me. We left, I made up in my mind I would never ever treat any member of my congregation that way, I really had a desire to help people, and I never wanted to make anyone feel that way. To me getting out in the ministry was more important than her, or what she said or the accusations. I graduated seminary, and we left to the ministry shortly after.

12. Their Greatest Calling

We went out into the “harvest” in 2013, having sold all of our furniture, and just about everything we owned, we got a church, a place and started, it was a lot of work, but I was in some ways glad to be there, because this was what I thought was the greatest calling, it was the height of that church, one preachers wife said it was a higher calling than being the president’s wife. That year for the holidays, the in-laws came to visit us, we had everyone over to our apartment, she spilled stuff all over the oven, burned it in and made a mess, I wanted to clean it up, she said no, go to the church and clean, you put that above everything else, and like every other holiday it went downhill from there. We fought like children over dumb stuff, she accused me of not learning to play piano correctly, she got so mad when I tried to tell her what I was learning, she thought I was arguing with her, while we were at dinner, she refused to talk to me, she intentionally ignored me. Her husband even told her she misunderstood me, the dad was always so quite, and never said much, most of the accusations came from the mother in law, so I knew it was bad if he stood up for me. I told my ex about it, he said, she is an overseers wife, she would never act like that, you’re mistaken, he later asked his mom about it, and she admitted to ignoring me, and what I was saying on purpose that evening during our Christmas dinner. I was so tired of it, never feeling good enough, I was the country bumpkin who’d married her baby boy, and I just couldn’t do anything right no matter what, eventually her tactics no longer worked on me, I’d grown numb to them, I stopped caring.

13. The Wake Up Call

I had decided to make some smoothies and salsa, not knowing I was deathly allergic to a tropical fruit. The next day I woke up with hives all over my body, you could not see my skin, it was red everywhere, that was a Thursday morning, by Friday morning my throat was beginning to swell, I told my ex I needed to go to the hospital, he said it cost too much, take Benadryl, I said I’ve already maxed it out, I can’t take any more and its doing nothing. Saturday morning I woke up, I stepped out of bed, and felt sharp, knife stabbing pains on my feet, I had welds an inch thick on the soles of my feet. I got sick to my stomach then fell on the floor and went into convulsions, the pain in my stomach felt like giving birth. I managed to make it back to our room, where I got sick again and fell on the floor in convulsion, tried to wake my ex up, I need to go to the ER, this is bad. He laid in bed I fell, it took all the strength I had to pull myself up on the side of the bed, I was bent over in pain, I hit him with a pillow he finally got up. It took him another 40 minutes to an hour to realize something was wrong, by this time I was calling a church member to get me to the hospital. He came over and said, oh you poor thing you are shaking, I was in the midst of a serious of convulsions, my kids woke up, my middle daughter was so frightened by my appearance the first words out of her mouth were mommy are you going to die? He dropped me off at the ER, I walked in side doubled over by the amount of pain I was in, I went in, they immediately pumped me full of meds, steroids, and H1 and H2 inhibitors, on the way out my ex went to get the car, they stopped me and said ma’am you need to pay, I said I don’t know how to pay, I don’t know which account has money, I was still in pain, my stomach still having mini piercing aches, he came in and paid, and I walked to the car, without his help. That night he kept waking me up to take Benadryl, the most you can take is 8 in a day, when he came around the third time, it would have been 6 pills, I slapped his hand away with the pills in it, saying leave me alone, that’s too much. I’m tiny my body doesn’t take that many meds at once. Two days later he had me out in southern heat in the summer at a church bbq, where I had prepared a bunch of food, I was so weak and so tired I left early. For 6 weeks, if you touched my skin it would bubble up and turn red from the inside out. I dropped a ton of weight, I couldn’t eat any greasy food, mostly only fruit and veggies or my stomach would start aching again. The mother in-law said that was normal for my skin to do that because I was so fair skinned, I think she missed a lot there, I’m very olive, and always have been because of my ancestry.

14. From Bad to Really Bad

My ex refused to work a job, our vehicle broke down, I had been sick, things were falling to pieces, it led to him and I donating blood plasma to make ends meet, to get to conference even. He sat there in the chair next to me one of the times and the nurse told him, I’m worried about your wife sir, her veins are so tiny, we are worried about blowing them. He said well thank God we can use it now. His mother said I was healthier than her son, so I should donate plasma, she told me of other preachers wives who had done it and wore the scares from it to sacrifice for God. It could have caused massive damage to my body for a mere $50. The last time I donated plasma, I felt so ashamed, I wasn’t doing it for a good cause, I heard my grandfather’s voice speak to me in my mind, “you were raised better than this, get up, work hard, and do what you have to do to take care of your family, no one else is going to do it for you.” I went to conference September 2014, just to listen to the new head pastor bash some guy for wearing shorts. My thought wasn’t bash the husband, but what does the wife have in her heart, why would she want her husband blasted from the pulpit like that. I saw my friends, they had been so energetic and hopeful, they looked worn and burnt out, I felt that way too. This place and all it held no longer meant anything to me.

I looked at my ex and said what if we would have done what God wanted us to do instead of following a man? Where would we have been, we were so broke going $900 a month in the whole, his mommy and daddy were floating us by. I just couldn’t live like that anymore, I told him I know longer wanted to go to that church. I was told if you live here, you will go to church with me, anyone wife under my roof will go to church, so you either stay here and go to church or you go to your sisters. I said I will go and visit my sister, for a few weeks and come back before Christmas with money from the job I get so we have a nice Christmas for the girls.

15. Set Up

Looking back on it I should have seen it coming, but you never want to believe your spouse of almost 9 years would do something like that to you. He said I love you baby, I support you, I understand you are doing this to help the family, I have all the text messages, he lied. Within 6 days of me leaving he moved my family out of the state we lived in, his parents helped him. While I was away his parents treated my oldest two children like garbage. She had my oldest scrub the inside of the toilet with a paper towel and her bare hands, my ex had been ill and it was nasty, she was so sickened by this. He called the new bigwig within a few hours and said I left him and the church, I was blacklisted within 5 hours of being on the bus. I had not left him, I was desperate to help my family. The story goes I cheated on him with some guy at our church, left him and left the church. He said the same thing of his first wife as well, it worked one time why not use it again.

He called and texted me at all times of the day, I knew my marriage was over because I finally put my foot down and said I’m no longer doing it your way. I ended up working overtime and he would text me or blow my phone up until 1 or 2 in the morning. I went 2 weeks without my kids, he said he would fly the oldest 2 girls to me, since they are not his, and he kept the youngest. He said he left $200 in our joint checking account and I could use that, he also wanted me to deposit my pay checks into it. I told him I was not going to do that, I realized something was really wrong. When I called the bank there was $37 in our joint account. I had not worked a job in 8 ½ years, I had a couple hundred dollars I could use on a credit card and that was it. I had not even gotten a pay check yet. He ended up flying my kids to an airport 5 hours away and gave me a 2 day notice to pick them up. I hit my knees and just cried for several hours that night, I didn’t know how I would get my babies. An agency ended up giving me the money to get the girls and paying for my rental vehicle, they offered compassion and mercy, my step dad picked them up from the airport, and I drove home, a 7 hour drive in December after working a 9 hour day.

I ended up working 3 jobs, I did not have a car, I relied on my sister to give me a ride, sometimes she would drop me off at a coffee shop, so I could use the wifi, or talk to a Domestic Violence Agency or take care of appointments. I walked in 10 degree weather in December, I was up by the Minnesota, South Dakota border. He would call me at work and harass me. He had called my oldest daughters dad and said he wanted to prove me an unfit mother, and get me to lose all the girls. He called CPS in 3 states on me, every case was thrown out. I asked him how was I good enough to work in your children’s church for 12 years, I volunteered in a clothing bank, at their schools, at a Crisis Pregnancy Center, and started a girl scout troop, if I was so bad with children why would I have ever been allowed in a children’s church. He told me if I really loved God I would drive to our church in South Dakota, it was 2 ½ hours away, this was the dead of winter, the roads continually get shut down because they have so much snow, and blowing snow, the day he told me if I really loved God I would make the drive, it was -30, with a howling wind and a foot of snow. If I really loved God, I’d risk dying or breaking down, and being stranded with my kids on some highway, how absurd.

He continually called my work, he canceled my car insurance one day when I was at work, he constantly did things behind my back, he called one day and said you have a month to come here and get your things or I will throw them away and give them to goodwill. He told me my 3 jobs were not that hard, one really wasn’t a job, it was more of a gig. I went to court in the summer of 2015 to get a divorce, we agreed and settled, his original lawyer ended up going to a mental hospital, so he got a new lawyer just a few days before it was set to be finale, this drug the case out longer. He switched therapist, and drug it out more, finally in April 2016 we were done, 10 days after the judge signed off on our divorce paper he was already remarried to his first wife. I cried at this point, not because I wanted him back, but I wondered why did you drag this horrible experience out, why did you put me through this. I was hindered from doing a lot of things, in my personal life, or advancing I was stuck in a holding pattern because I was still married. Some people do not understand the decisions I was forced to make, I really wanted my youngest daughter, but I went up against people who had money, I couldn’t afford it, I sat down many days, many nights, I prayed for months. I weighed the options, I had to make a decision to do what was best for all my girls, so I do not have my youngest daughter. He told me in the beginning if I ever left him he would make sure I never got her, that he would bury me in the process, I’m still standing, but he tried his hardest to paint me as a bad person.

16. Hindsight

This experience has not been easy, it’s been a painful one, words cannot even describe the things I felt or went through. I went to therapy for almost a year. I search out answers, I reflect, and just try to take one day at a time, and to make the best out of every day. Things that seem normal to a lot of people, were no longer normal for me, like wearing pants, or jewelry, make up, or even cutting my hair. It’s hard for someone to understand unless they have been through an experience like it. I wanted to share my story, I’m no longer scared to. I really don’t want to see anyone else go through what I’ve been through. I’m one of many people who has been done wrong by the group I was in. You lose your self-identity, I couldn’t even recognize who I was anymore. If you gut feeling is telling you something isn’t right then pay attention to it. Many have been wronged, spiritually abused, mentally and some even physically abused by people in this organization. I urge you, to research it, don’t just attend and follow them blindly. They suck you in before you even know what happened. They act like they will accept you and love you so much, then they start correcting you and the way you are dressed, they will use examples if you truly loved God you would do things this way or that way. One of the first major warning signs I should have realized is within the first couple months of me going the pastor got up behind the pulpit and said if your family tells you this is a cult, it’s not, we are not a cult. They started expecting you to go to all the events, it was literally 6 or 7 days a week, and twice on Saturday and Sunday, demanding time, money, driving your vehicle to haul others around, which takes gas, and is wear and tear on your car, when the car breaks down, well, it’s just the devil messing. They expect you to go to conference twice a year, ministers are required to go to one or they will lose their license. There is not much time for any outside activities, and you spend little time with your family because you are always so busy running for a group of people. Google what a cult is, you will see the warning signs.

I was left an empty shell, my world was ripped out from under my feet, I still cry sometimes, in some ways I’m broken and I don’t know how long it will take to heal from some of the things I’ve been through. This group was 13 years of my life. If you want to leave secretly reach out to family and friends, and just go, I had to delete my old Facebook account. If you are a woman and have children, go to a domestic violence shelter, and flee, take all your children with you, get a protective order put in place so you can keep your children. Be prepared to stand strong, they will smear your name, lie about you, try to destroy you. If you leave the church it is automatic grounds for divorce. Don’t think it won’t happen to you, they arrange marriages, they have a hand in putting people together, the environment in this church is a breeding ground for abusive relationships, I’ve heard by golly I’m the man of the house, is my wife don’t like it there’s the door. Women are not treated well here, you won’t be allowed to go to college, to work a job, and you will fight if you wish to even volunteer, they want to keep you at home and isolated. Did you ever think about what it’s like for your daughter? My oldest once told me, why would I go to college, I’m just going to get married anyway, I can’t do anything with it. Is that what you really want for your daughters? I want mine to thrive, I think marriage is a good thing, but what if they do not wish to marry, what then? You have to sit down and really think about the future, they claim when you leave, you will suffer and have a horrible life, that things will fall apart, no one will love you and you won’t be blessed, and you certainly are not in the will of God. That is so far from the truth, I’ve had complete strangers show me more love and mercy than anyone in that organization ever did. The only heartache and suffering comes from my ex and what he put me through. If anyone happens to invite you to that group run away, do not go, don’t even subject yourself to it. I know there are more of us out there, many have remained silent. This is a long story, I want the information out there, I don’t want people to experience the pain I have felt, you’re not alone, sometimes the best fight we can fight back with is simply standing, and letting our voices be heard.

Reunited by Peaches and Herb on YouTube

From this story we see that before the ink dried on the divorce documents, her ex 're-married" his first wife... making her his first and third wife...  and the Big Wigs sanctioned it all, again!

(1) When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give [it] in her hand, and send her out of his house. (2) And when she is departed out of his house, she may go and be another man's [wife]. (3) And [if] the latter husband hate her, and write her a bill of divorcement, and giveth [it] in her hand, and sendeth her out of his house; or if the latter husband die, which took her [to be] his wife; (4) Her former husband, which sent her away, may not take her again to be his wife, after that she is defiled; for that [is] abomination before the LORD: and thou shalt not cause the land to sin, which the LORD thy God giveth thee [for] an inheritance. (Deu 24:1-4 KJV)

David Jr. and His
New Wife/Old X-wife that he
Remarried after Dumping the
abused Mother of his Child.
They are Celebrating
"Western" Night, and this
New/Old couple, and
the Whole Corrupt
Tieman Family.

We want folks to see the corruption.  The above picture was posted on May 21st of this year before the ink dried on David Jr's second divorce. This is David Jr's new bride.  Actually it's his old bride, also.  This woman whose name is Amy was married to Jr. at 16 years of age and dumped about 14 or 15 years ago by David Jr. when he got sick of her. This remarriage to Davyo's X, is most likely another stop gap relationship and if you blink your eyes, you might find Davyo going through a third divorce.  Stay with us, because this gets confusing as with many other ntcc sanctioned marriages and divorces.  But there is more to this story.  

David Tieman Jr. and yet another woman. Look kind of close, don't they? Notice Jezebel Tieman in the background strapped into a roller coaster smiling her approval of this inordinate relationship while he is still married to the Lady who wrote this post. From other photos on their social media pages it appears that these Borgites were grooming this blonde woman to become the next bride in the line up. Fortunately for her, she has moved on from being manipulated by Nichelle Tieman.

Who is this girl, you might ask?  This is Julia.  She  started attending the ntcc while Davyo Tieman was going through his second divorce.  Fortunately this woman was smart enough to get out of the ntcc before getting trapped in matrimony with this wrecking ball of marriages.  David Jr. was seen on many occasions flirting with this girl while going through his second divorce.  She was the one that David was hoping replace his wife of 13 years with, but things didn't work out with this one.  She must have known that David was going through a divorce and a light came on.  DANGER! DANGER! DANGER!  Julia left the cult and dodged a serious bullet. The match making machine sputtered and gagged so David Jr. had to settle for a consolation prize.  They hooked him up with his first wife.  Poor Amy.  Raised in the ntcc.  Abused and dumped.  You know that Amy had to be talked about like a dog and treated like the scum of the earth by Nichelle.  Now Amy is trapped in this family of abusive and manipulative con artists again.  What a sick and demented carousel/roller coaster/house of horror.  Dave Sr. and Nichelle had to postpone their traveling tour in their rolling cathedral to self wealth for about a year to get Davyo hooked up again.  Soon Jr. will be given another church to lord over and will repeat the vicious ntcc cycle of chicanery.

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D'Mario speaks out against an abusive NTCC Co-pastor and Kekel and frees his Family from a Manipulative Religious Cult Experience in MyNTCC

About a week ago we received a comment from a person named D'Mario who shared the testimony of him and his family with us as follows:

D'Mario said... 

My wife and I started reading your blog about a year ago. We struggled a lot with stuff that we read trying to decide if you were just bitter people that didn't get what you wanted in N.T.C.C. or had great reason to believe they were not of God. 

About 18 months ago we were sent out to be helpers in a work. The pastor there was quite harsh to me and my wife. Calling us out in services when we were not doing what he wanted us to do. Getting mad when my youngest on a Saturday night service would fall asleep after such a long day. To give you an idea my youngest was nursery age at the time. The pastor's wife would belittle my wife making fun of her in front of our children while I was at work. This really upset my oldest because I had taught him how to honor his mother. It got so bad I finally called Rev. Kekel not knowing what else to do. He told me to stop wining and like a baby and I need to grow up and get with the program. I was so hurt no one cared. 

About 7 months ago one of my children began to run a high fever and was really sick. I called the pastor where I am at and said I am not sure my wife will be able to come tomorrow to Saturday soul-winning. He got angry and said that if she doesn't come there would not be enough women to pair up evenly. When I insisted my child needed my wife, he then threat to report me to Rev. Kekel. My wife stressed out because Rev. Kekel had already told us we could never miss anything about church and soul-winning even for our children. She told me if she didn't go it she would be disobeying the man of God and God would punish us. She was feared God's punish on our family. So she, all the kids, and I went soul-winning. Right before that night's service my child got really bad. We decided to take her into the ER. I called the pastor. He told me I was to drop off my wife and child and I and the other children were to come to church. He had no concern at all. I told him no I am going to be with my family they need me. My daughter was in the hospital for two days. That pastor nor Rev. Kekel seemed to care. I got yelled at for missing all services that weekend. My wife and I took turns being in the room while the other took care of the other children. I only worked a half a day Tuesday so I could bring my child home. We tried to make it work for another couple of weeks but it only got worse so one weekend we just didn't attend anything. In fact that weekend we went to the zoo for the first time as a family. My children had never seen a bear up close so it was thrilling to see them so excited.

One thing I was surprised with us leaving was my oldest told me I am so glad we don't have to go back. I hated that place. 

I am glad you put out so much information on your blog it helps my family to feels good about our decision. It also lets me know when my gut told not to trust certain people to care for my children while in bible school I wasn't being overly caution. They probably won't trust worthy. It must be hard to share ugly information but without I don't think I would have believed God was okay with us leaving. 

To all those that think we don't love God. We still have family talks about God and the bible. We even sing songs about God. The only difference now is my family is first.

 D'Mario's Children were thrilled to see the bear while His oldest said, 

 "I'm so glad we don't have to go back, (to the ntcc), I hated that place." 

This is disturbing on so many levels; and yet it is also encouraging that D'Mario's family got out in tact and continues their faith without the ntcc meddling in their personal lives or threatening the well being of their children. This letter represents the culture in the ntcc and demonstrates what happens to families, how children are treated, how the leadership, (Kekel), responds to bad situations, how harshly so many ntcc pastors treat fellow ministers and co-workers and their families, how poorly so many ntcc pastors' wives treat ministers and workers and their families, how cold hearted and cruel ntcc pastors can be, how unconcerned an abusive jerk that calls himself a pastor is towards a suffering family and especially a sick child.

But the best lesson of all that can be learned from this story is how a man and his family used this abusive behavior by their fellow worker, a so-called pastor, to find their way to freedom. In fact, my favorite part of this whole comment was how they stopped attending ntcc cult meetings and went on a family trip to the zoo. I guarantee they got more out of that as a family than they ever would have received from that abusive jerk that masquerades as a pastor. People like that guy are tyrants that love to hear themselves and they take pleasure in jacking people up and making others as miserable as they are inside. They might pretend to be saved; but their actions speak much louder than words; and you are much better off removing yourself from the company of such hypocrites than you are subjecting yourselves to their abuse.

 Victim's of Spiritual Abuse often compare their trauma
 to rape.  The damage is real and can turn people away
 from God.  Do yourself a favor and free your family
 from an abusive environment that calls itself a church
 and find a real group of Christians who love in deed. 

D'Mario never said who the abusive jerk so-called pastor and fellow minister was that treated D'Mario's family like they were his slaves who were to be in subjection to him.  But shortly after D'Mario's comment published we got a bunch of comments streaming in about how abusive Keith Gandy was/is. We also received an anonymous comment that the author requested we did not post, and one of the things shared was that Gandy had run off several families and that he treated children terribly. If you are a minister in any organization and you are sent to help another minister and anyone in your family gets sick, don't ask that nutcase anything. Take care of your family. Call and tell that Cretin that you are going to take care of your family; and if he doesn't have enough women to match up then tell him to get up off his lazy butt and match up with his own wife and go soul winning. When a child has a high temperature that is not something you want to mess with. Your number one concern should be with your family as it was with D'Mario. There have been others that have neglected their child's health and listened to idiots like Davis who told them not to go to the emergency room; and we have heard that some have suffered permanent damage. I believe Julie and Lisa both were not taken to hospitals when they should have been; and because of that they are dealing with much more severe problems later in life than they should. I think Lisa shared that if she would have received treatment for some of her medical issues when she was a child that she would not be going through life threatening medical emergencies that she now has to go through.

 Does MyNTCC org Hide Abusers as long as those Abusers
 send money and/or people to the NTCS seminary? 

Take care of your children. It's amazing to me that people will listen to morons like Gandy who have never raised children, and allow them to give them advice on how to raise their kids. Gandy shouldn't even be around children in my opinion because he doesn't care about them. Gandy is just one shining example of how abusive a person could be. Stay away from these ntcc lifers, they are dangerous to the health and welfare of your children. 

The ntcc is one of the worst places on planet earth to raise children. Just ask an ntcc parent who raised their children in the ntcc. Ask Cyrius how beating his infant for hours worked for him. Where is Grant Kekel right now? He's a sinner according to dead Davis. Many of the children raised in the ntcc departed as soon as they were old enough to think for themselves and smell freedom. That's why the board members always married off their children as soon as they were of legal age. They wanted to enslave their daughters to older men for the rest of their lives before they could think for themselves. They were groomed as young teens 13 and sometimes younger to fantasize about which 20 something year old preacher would you like to marry.  And many were married off as soon as they turned 16 years old.  The ntcc is a very sick and unhealthy place to raise your children.

Do your families a favor and escape before they become victims of this sick organization. Do you want your children to be raised like monkeys in a carnival or circus? Get them out of the ntcc as soon as possible before they become the next generation of victims.  And even if you don't have children, and maybe you aren't even married, don't become a victim of ntcc abuse.  If you are a licensed minister, working in an ntcc church, that local church's pastor has no spiritual authority over you.  He is not supposed to 'lord it over you' or boss you around.  He should be a friend.  If he can't handle that, he should not have you as a helper. "Period."  Listen to what the Word of God says,

But Jesus called them [unto him], and said, Ye know that the princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them, and they that are great exercise authority upon them. - Mat 20:25 KJV

But it shall not be so among you: ... - Mat 20:26 KJV

Jesus calls us His Friends.  If He can humble Himself to call us friends, your fellow-ministers should too.  They should not be so puffed-up in pride that they don't even want you to call them  by their first name.  Can you imagine Jesus, The LORD and Maker of All rebuking someone for calling Him by His first name?  LOL!  Jesus, we believe, is loving and fun to be around, not on some pride trip.  People who demand respect never give it back.   Respect has to be mutual. You are both ministers. And we are all supposed to be children of God.  Don't let somebody treat you like their whipping boy.  If they try that, just leave them alone.  Let them be.  It isn't the Spirit of Christ directing them to treat you poorly. If they are calling you insulting names, or trying to blame you by saying you need to change, just leave.  You are better off with the Word of God and a cup of Joe.

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The Good, The Bad and The Religious

In a world that seems to be spinning out of control, people have always searched and continue to search for God.  People want to make sense of things; but with our finite minds, we often cannot answer many of the questions that take us beyond death.  There are so many churches scattered throughout America; and many of them claim not only to have the answers, but that they are the only ones with the answers. Then we have the Bible, (thank God), that is used by almost all of these churches to prove their point of view.

Unfortunately, folks don't come into this world with a knowledge of what God says in His Word; nor do they have the wisdom to rightly divide the word of truth.  In America we have the freedom to choose; and along with this freedom to choose comes the freedom to believe whatever you want.  While God wants us to make the right decision, His will is never forced upon us. His plan for us, however, is not very difficult; at least not more difficult than we make it.  While the road might be narrow, millions have made it.  Perhaps we can too if we follow the right path.

Choosing the right path is not as difficult as we were led to believe

The first path is the Good path, the right path and the only path that leads to life eternal.  With so many religions and so many voices that interfere in our lives it might seem like a hard path to find. In the military we used to orient ourselves to the map so that we could navigate from one point to another.  We'd look for known points on the map to figure out where we were and where we wanted to go. The Bible is the only map we have.  If we are looking for a church or looking for a path, we need to look for what we know is right to ensure we are on the right path.  Now Hebrews 10:25 says: "Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching." Many use this scripture for their own purposes, but if you are going to follow someone you better make sure they are on the right path before you choose to fellowship with them.  It doesn't say anything about assembling ourselves together in a church building that you have to pay for.  It doesn't say that we have to assemble ourselves together with teachers of false doctrines.  People take one scripture out of the bible and bind themselves to it, and in the process they violate a dozen other scriptures.  If you have chosen the good path, and you have surrounded yourself with good people, then you probably will want to be around them.  It's not a forced thing.  If you are required to be around someone 5 times a week, than they must not be the type of people you would want to be around or they would not have had to make it a requirement.  The difference between good and bad is like night and day.

You can recognize the bad path because it is traveled by bad people.  They know they are bad and they don't try to hide it. Unfortunately our nature wants us to take this path and be around the others who choose this path.  Our flesh loves this path because it is full of things that are bad for us and that take us in a different direction than God wants us to go.  The Map we were given warns us not to go down this path and if we choose this path it's not by accident, nor is it by ignorance.  We know we are wrong if we choose to do the things that 'everyone else' is doing.  The people that walk in this direction ignore love and desire only to fulfill their own lusts and desires.  As bad as this may sound, there is more hope for the people on this path than there is for people on the religious path.  The difference is that the people that have chosen the bad path are the ones that God usually ends up saving, while the people on the religious path don't acknowledge that they need to be saved.

The religious make up a large percentage of the population of America.  The people that travel down this path have chosen to have the best of both worlds.  They expend a great deal of energy trying to convince others that they are on the good path but their footsteps are not following the map to heaven.  They present a standard that is impossible to live by, and they expect others to conform to, while their own actions are hidden in the darkness that surrounds their hearts.  In many ways they are worse than those who are on the dark path because they fight against the good and try to tear them down while their own desires are to profit from them.  The religious are made up of a mixture of good and bad.  The religious also fall into the ugly category because what they do to people is ugly and they do things that are so wrong that even the bad people cringe at the thought of their deeds. When you get involved with a religious group that was set up by a con artist, you find yourself among the worst of the worst.  These types of people are usually sexually perverted and they make money off of your suffering.  The only way to escape a group like this is to read your bible and compare it closely to the lives of your leaders.



We have determined that the ntcc is religious and the only good that exists within the organization are the people who are not willfully deceiving others but are lost and not using their map to navigate their way out.  They have good intentions and they may know that things are not right but they allow others to influence their thinking to the point where not even God can get their attention.  The ntcc preaches good, but lives bad and covers it all up with ugly religion.  The ntcc specializes in placing a calling on your life that exists only for their own greedy and selfish benefit.  People feel like they have to belong to a religion or a church because of Hebrews 10:25.  The ntcc uses that scripture to convince people to attend 5 or more church services per week, but even with that busy schedule the leaders of the ntcc have found time to visit whorehouses on your dime, molest young girls while their equally religious parents turn a blind eye or even make the arrangements themselves and build a real estate empire bought and payed for by your tithe dollars.  If they can convince you to pay tithe contrary to the New Testament, what else can they get you to do.  You are lost inside an organization. They have deceived you and used you for their own gain.

I was not exempt from the blindness and the religious nightmare that so many have awoken from. When it happened to me and I was so messed up when I got out, I chose to travel the bad path.  I didn't want anything to do with good anymore because I didn't really know what good was.  I thought good was paying your tithe and going to church and attending conferences.  It's easy to get lost inside a cult.  The leadership kept everything hidden from me.  Al Gore had just invented the internet and at that time Factnet and the blogs didn't exist, but even if they did, I probably wouldn't have believed anyone that had anything 'negative' (truthful) to say about the ntcc.  For me, I was better off taking the bad route.  It gave me enough freedom in my mind and control over my life that it cleared my mind enough so that when the truth was finally presented to me, I was able to see the difference between good and ugly religion.  In the process I also learned that nobody is perfect.  As much as you strive to be like Jesus, you will always fall short.  That's why Paul always opened his epistles with grace and mercy to all.  I hated the darkness that I lived in, but it was actually better than the religious lie I was living in the ntcc.  I don't recommend the bad and dark path to anyone, because it is not necessary. There is enough information on the internet to show you what kind of a religious cult the ntcc really is.  Their true colors have been exposed and when you see that for yourself you can make good choices.  Before the ntcc, I thought there were only two choices, good and bad.  Right or wrong. Everything was black or white.  Beware of false prophets and beware of hypocrites.  Follow only Christ and if you are fortunate enough to be around other believers who are not extorting the people of God for money and sex, don't forsake them.  You don't have to be around them 24/7, you have a life to live and so do they.  There is freedom in Christianity.  Don't let the religious twist the scriptures just to keep you in financial and spiritual bondage to them.  

Beatings, Rape, Bloody Nose - and Tanya Kekel took My Son Away - What Did She or Others Do To Him? Graham, WA 1994

The series of Julie's life as an alleged sex slave for the NTCC 'leaders' continues. This portion of her life describes more beatings, rape, and a bloody nose allegedly from Mike Kekel. But equally troubling is the alleged participation of Tanya Kekel in setting up this "alone time" for Mike and Julie, while removing Julie's son, Thomas, against Julie's protests. We may never know what took place that day in his life when young Thomas disappeared with Tanya Kekel. But his actions when returned home to his battered mother Julie are very telling. It was horrible enough to suffer the alleged rapes and beatings; but now they were taking her son too? To do what? Julie alleges she took a beating for begging to have her son with her that day in 1994 at Kekel's home in Graham, Washington. In Julie's words:

We get to Washington. Move into a place where a lot of people from NTCC were living in fact only a couple of the apartments had people that weren’t apart of NTCC. I start classes again and it was a challenge. I still had trouble with the reading and writing and taking notes. I got myself in trouble a few times because of it. I hadn’t been in Washington but a few weeks before I was called to supposedly help Tanya [Kekel] but she wasn’t the one asking [Mike] Kekel was the one. I get a ride over there he had told me to bring [my young son] Thomas so I thought maybe it won’t be sex or anything like that. I arrive Tanya was taking [her son] Grant [Kekel] somewhere but [allegedly] needed another child to go with her to this activity. I told her I didn’t want Thomas going without me. I didn’t like the idea of him being away from me. I didn’t tell her I didn’t trust her which was going through my mind. Kekel says remember I am in charge. God has given me the authority to know what is best for your child. I tried again but there was no winning the argument. She left with both boys. I am sick at that point fearing how my son would be treated but having no idea once again what to do. Tanya leaves me with cleaning orders. Kekel is supposed to be working on something and she says not to bother him. She isn’t gone long before Kekel is in my face. He tells me I am going to get a spanking for arguing with the man of God. I have no idea that he can’t actually do this being I am adult. He is playing on my ignorance. I am terrified for he is brutal in his spankings and I know sex will follow which with a brutal spanking sex will hurt worse. He undresses me from the waist down. I beg him not to do it. I told him as a mother I hate to be away from my son this is why I spoke. I told him it is making me sick that he is gone at that moment. He said so you admit you argued with your God-given authority. I am going to have spank the rebellion out of you. He quoted scriptures about discipline to me as he had me bend over. I didn’t undress for a few days in front of my then husband [Donny Ridgeway] not knowing how to explain the marks. This time he [Mike Kekel] gave me some stuff that made the marks disappear in a few days. It was a container with no label so I have no idea what it was. By the third day I couldn’t tell I had had any marks. All he told me was it was for adults after a spanking. Once again I was too ignore to question him. He [Mike Kekel] did have sex with me again that day. He said God sent you back to me for he knows I need additional pleasure in my life and it helps my stress level of having to deal with difficult people that refuse to obey their God-given authority.

After he was done I clean up really quickly fearing if I didn’t get the cleaning orders done Tanya would spank me as well. She had spanked me in the past. I didn’t think with a sick stomach, stress, a spanking, and unwanted sex my body could take another spanking. So I began to move very quickly with the cleaning.

 Why Would Tanya Kekel Knowingly Leave Her
 Husband Mike Alone with Julie?  What Did Tanya
 Do with Julie's Son Thomas After Removing Him
 From His Mother Julie Against Her Protests?
 To Us These Allegations Indicate Sex Trafficking.
 In Our Opinion, They Implicate Tanya Kekel
 In Both The Rape Of Julie and Possible Gross
Activity [Sex With?] the Young Boy, Thomas Ridgeway.

Tanya walks in the door I just barely got done. Thomas comes barreling at me wanting to be held in fact he wanted to be held until I went to class that night. All he said about the day was Tanya was rude. Tanya walked around the house complained a couple of times but said nothing more. So I went home to get dinner and get ready for class that night.

I was so overwhelmed. I couldn’t focus on class that night which led me to typing crazy notes since I had nothing to go on for them.

This scene played a 6 more times while I was in my second round of being at “the cemetery”. I would be called to the Kekels to cleaning and bless the leaders. The things I saw and witnessed with these leaders are just sickening including finding Kekel’s playboy collection.

 Silenced by beatings and threats of damnation
 Julie was "left to carry the weight" alone.
 Whom could she tell without them going
 to borg leaders and reporting it? Then, she
 alleges, spankings / beatings would follow. 

Kekel would tell me all the time how God had given me unto him. It made it hard not to view him unclothed. It also made it difficult to have to ask his permission about other things. I was left to carry this weight having to pretend I wasn't hurting inside. I wanted to have someone care to know the pain my heart was in. I would be around the ladies including one of my neighbors who faithfully took me grocery shopping yet I was scared into silence on the matter. I tried to tell Joan but of course Kekel found out. I was accused of lying. I began to think I was commenting adultery the more I listened to things said at Graham. I was confused since Kekel would say it was God’s will but in the next breath he would accuse me of sinning for making him long for my body. He told me he even dreamed of sex with me at night. I had no idea he was the one sinning and he was commenting a crime.

Two of the times he went off the normal course and had me do oral sex instead of on all four. He said he needed this instead because there were bible school students that were stressing him way out and his wife didn’t want to do it. He would talk about people during our time together. He would talk bad about the building crew, bible school students, he would say all the people that work on the campground were dumb a—air heads and the women were the worst. I had no idea who was at the campground all I thought is well he seems to think of them the same he feels about me. He even downed some of the leaders. He would name people and ask if I had had sex with them. No matter the answer I gave it was the wrong one and he would accuse me of lying and slap me I was standing for this. One of times that he slapped me I tripped causing my nose to hit something. I ended up with a bloody nose. When asked about it since I had a small bruise I said I tripped and hit my nose which was only part of what happened.

There is probably more details that aren’t coming to mind at this point about these times in Graham but will come to me later.

To Be Continued...

All of this is so horrible. We can not imagine how Julie survived this life. Only the grace of God could bring somebody through this constant cycle of allegedly being treated as a sex slave. And now with these allegations coming to light about Tanya participating, it is even worse.

Tanya Reynolds Davis Kekel was born to a Filipino woman, Elizabeth Reynolds, who gave her up for adoption. Davis raised her in the NTCC, constantly bellowing out his version of holiness- NEVER BE ALONE WITH SOMEONE OF THE OPPOSITE SEX [gender].

• Why would Tanya orchestrate this alone-time for her hubby Mike with Julie St. Clair?
• Why didn't Tanya respect Julie's protests and leave Thomas with Julie - his mother?
• Where did Tanya take Thomas?
• What happened to Thomas?
• Why was he clingy - "wanting to be held"?
• Why did he say Tanya was "rude"?
• In an earlier post, Julie described Mike Kekel as being "rude".  Since then Julie has shared that allegedly Kekel's "rude" behavior included spankings / beatings and raping her.
• Did Thomas' description of Tanya cover equally ugly behavior by Tanya (the spankings and rapes) that Julie's description of Kekel covered of Mike's behavior? Is that what "rude" means? - A violent sexual predator? We have to wonder.

None of this makes any sense in a so-called holiness church that beat their drums about never being alone with someone of the opposite sex. Unless the leaders are all hypocrites; (which evidence says they are). Then it all makes sense: They say the opposite of what they do:

1. Davis said, Don't be alone with somebody of the opposite sex; but Davis was seen going into houses of women whose husbands were at work. One, Pam Norton, testified of Davis' lewd sexual actions with her.
2. Davis said match-making was wrong. Yet Davis set up rules that stopped anyone from even talking to other single people unless Davis approved of it. That, friends, IS MATCHMAKING! HELLO!
3. Davis yelled at pregnant women saying they would have to answer to God for ruining their husband's ministry since children hinder the work of Gawd. But Davis went out of his way to the Philippines to adopt Tanya Maxamillia Reynolds Davis Kekel.

Those are 3 examples of Davis DOING THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT HE SAID. That is proof Davis was a hypocrite. And as we all heard many, many times from the mouth of NTCC Executive Board Member Joey Olson: "... Davis IS the organization." So guess what? The NTCC is run by HYPOCRITES who DO what they say should never be done.

UPDATE:  May 3, 2014

Anonymous said...

I cleaned M. Kekel's house before too. He hit me on the butt once. I went to Olson about it. M. Kekel claimed he bumped my butt accidently and nothing more was said. It bothered me but I thought I was in the wrong. This confirms I wasn't wrong. He hit my butt on purpose. I think he was testing to see what he could get away with before he tried more. I am disgusted by how far you got with you Julie.

Saturday, May 03, 2014 9:31:00 AM

Please watch the following video by investigative reporter Mike Watkiss and ask yourself what similarities you see in the stories coming out of the FLDS / Warren Jeffs compound and the NTCC that Julie survived.

Warning:  Video may trigger bad memories and raise awareness.

Colorado City:  FLDS Cult Compound of Warren Jeffs

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