Will a Man Rob God?

Did Jesus Tithe?  Tithe Instruction Cartoon Video


A question that was asked back in the book of Malachi deserves to be answered today. Will a Man Rob God?  Many have translated this scripture to mean, "Will a man not pay his tithe".  If you are in the ntcc and you do not pay your tithe, you are a God Robber, according to everyone who steps behind an ntcc pulpit.  NTCC preachers are all taught to say, "All Christians pay tithe and give in offerings" every time a collection plate makes its rounds in an ntcc church.  We've delved into the Old Testament teachings on tithe and pointed out a few facts about tithe that the ntcc will not expound upon:

1.  Abraham gave a tenth of his spoils of war (not a tenth of everything he owned) to Melchisedec out of his own free will, not because he was commanded to, years before the law of Moses came into existence.

2.  When the law of Moses was passed down to the Children of Israel, every tribe was given an inheritance except for the Levites.  They were selected out of all the tribes to perform the service of the tabernacle and execute the laws of Moses pertaining to sacrifices.  Tithe was paid once every three years; and it pertained to agricultural gifts, not 10% of everything they owned or every wage they made before anyone else got their greasy hands on it.

3.  In the Old Testament tithe money went towards supporting the Son's of Aaron and the priesthood; whose lot was to perform the service of the Levitical order.  The Priests had no inheritance - no land. The Agricultural tithe was to feed the Levites, not to get them rich.  Tithes were also given to the Stranger, the Widow, and the fatherless according to Dueteronomy 26:12.  When is the last time you saw the ntcc GIVE anything to the Stranger, the Widow or the Fatherless?

4.  The 'God Robber' doctrine was instituted by the ntcc in an attempt to bring guilt into a person's life if they don't practice giving 10% cash before any deductions.  10% cash before deductions is not taught anywhere in the entire bible.  The ntcc used to put signs up near the doors of the main sanctuary in Graham with a picture of a gun pointing at them and the question, "Will a Man Rob God"?

 Will a Preacher Man Rob God?
 Where does your tithe money go?
How do you know?
 Can you look at the church books?
 Why not?  What are they hiding?
 Does your tithe support the Stranger,
 the Widow and the Orphan?
 Or does your leader build himself
 another mansion and add another
 luxury car to his collection?
 Is that what Jesus did? 

What does the ntcc say about tithe in the New Testament?  I'm glad you asked.  The word "Tithe" is mentioned twice in the New Testament.  In Mathew 23:23 and Luke 11:42; and in both instances we find Jesus rebuking the Pharisees for making a big show out of it, while neglecting love and judgment.  Keep in mind that the law of Moses was not fulfilled until Jesus made the ultimate sacrifice on the cross.  So, as Jews, THEY were required to keep the law; but they missed the heart of God - showing love.  But we are no longer under the law and therefore not required to pay tithe.  "Well," the ntcc-indoctrinee says, "tithe came before the law, when Abraham paid."  No. (1) Abraham freely gave a tenth of the spoils of war. (2) Not only that, but other things happened before the law, that we no longer do.  Animal sacrifice was instituted in the Garden of Eden when God clothed Adam and Eve with animal skins to cover their sins. Heb 9;22  But we no longer sacrifice animals.   You aren't going to go out and kill a goat every time you sin, are you?  Don't let ntcc false doctrine dupe you with guilt trips and catch phrases like the following video uses. Search the scripture.

Paying Your Tithe (Stayin' Alive Parody) =D Video

Highlights:
I give all I can
Yes I do, but
I Drive a BMW
You Want to See
My Money Tree
Over in My Big T.V.
Whether You're a King or
Whether You're a Beggar
You're Payin' Your Tithe
Payin' Your Tithe
Big City Spender or
Little Peanut Vendor
You're Paying Your Tithe
Payin' Your Tithe
(Chorus and Bridge)
Ya better Watch What You're Tryin' or
You May Find Yourself A-Fryin'
You Better Pay It / And Don't Delay It
This Sunday (yeah) **Of course, in ntcc it would say "This PAYday (or else)"**

We also find the word "tithes" written a few times in the New Testament.  Luke 18:12 is about another Pharisee who brags about paying tithes: "I fast twice a week, I give tithes of all that I possess".  But we find that the Publican who said: "Be merciful to me, a sinner" was justified and not the ntcc hypocrite, (or Pharissee), whatever you want to call him.

Unlike Jesus, Who seldom used the words tithe or tithes, NTCC harps on tithe in every service. Unfortunately, the church world is full of preachers willing to twist scriptures in order to get people to cough up their cash into the church coffers; where it disappears into a black hole of no accountability.  Just like the NTCC, these religious hucksters fleece their flock ; and they do it with style, and in a manner that targets different audience groups like farmers, rappers, young folks, and even disco dancers. We have dispersed a couple more of these instructional videos throughout the remainder of the post in order to break up the text and provide comic relief.  But ask yourself, Are they advocating paying tithe?  To whom?  What for?  And, please, remember the very first cartoon video's instruction that teaches us to ask for scriptural proof of any doctrine.

Redeeming The Bad Tithe Rap (Accountants) Video

Highlights:
This video showcases mad rhyming skills and some of the funniest dance sequences with "The Sprinkler", "New Kid", "Hammer-Time" and others.  But it's mostly catch phrases, lots of repetitious chanting, some pretty lights and someone else's rap song (Flo Rida's "Low").  Advertisers use these same techniques to sell things.  They package them and call them "Jingles" or "Commercials".  This video is no different.  It is a 4 minute ad that is 'selling' you on the need to pay your tithe, and it is prefaced by a 30 second introduction by the preacher interacting with the performers like a hype man building up a rapper or a Barker introducing the next carnival act.  However, there are no New Testament Scriptures that support what these men are teaching by using a catchy tune, repetition, and showmanship.  Keep your eyes on Jesus; He is The Word.

Back to our search for tithe in the New Testament:  We find the word "Tithes" written 4 times in Hebrews 7:5-9, where the Bible talks about the account again of Abraham paying a tenth of the spoils to Melchisedec.  Nowhere in Hebrews 7 will you find a commandment carried forward to New Testament Christians mandating them to pay 10% tithe cash to their churches or pastors.  In verse 11 you will find a question:

"If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron"?

If the law of Moses or any of the sacrifices, feasts or tithing rules brought about perfection, why would there be a need for an eternal priesthood in which Jesus would spring up out of the tribe of Judah?  And if He required tithe of His followers, why would He not mention tithe as a mandate one time in the New Testament?  The only time He did that was when He was speaking to Pharisees who were still bound by the law of Moses to pay tithes.  We are not bound by the law of Moses.

The following video had us really laughing.  It's artistic and plays on words and emotions.  There are also a couple of scenes that are just wrong, even in a joking context.  Unfortunately, churches today are using this stuff to fill their coffers; but that is not supported by the New Testament.  God never intended tithe to be a way for New Testament 'leaders' to get rich off His people. Tithe has always been about caring for the poor, the widow, and the fatherless.

Tithe Rap (Farm Version) Video


The ntcc uses a lot of other scriptures that have to do with giving offerings; and they attempt to apply those scriptures to mandatory tithing.  But there just is no link to voluntary giving or even taking care of the Pastor with carnal gifts that can be directly linked to tithing.  We have never said or advocated anything against giving freely; but when you get a bunch of scamming and conniving con artists telling you that you are a God robber if you don't pay tithe, and that you will die and go to hell for not paying it, you are following a false doctrine.  Even the offering that Paul took up in Corinthians 16 which the ntcc uses in their false doctrine bylaws has nothing to do with tithe.  It is an offering for the poor saints in Jerusalem, not for a new Recreational Donkey for Paul to ride on.

We have condensed this as much as possible just to give everyone a refresher course on tithing.  If it's not in the bible and it's being taught as scripture, then it's called "FALSE DOCTRINE".  In the ntcc there is a whole lot of emphasis on paying tithe; but very little is said about where your tithe dollars go.  Why do you think that the ntcc is so secretive about their finances?  None of you know where your money goes.  None of you know where your church members' money goes.  If you are a pastor in the ntcc, House of Pancakes, Oops I meant to say House of Prayer, (Denis' Organization), Ashmore's Jesus Revival Ministries and you are being taught to pay tithe you are being taught a false doctrine  plain and simple.  You are being lied to and conned out of ten percent of your earnings.  What you might find even more alarming is where your money is going.  Don't you have a right to know?  Why would anyone get mad if you asked to see the church books so you could know for sure where your money is going?  If you are a pastor in the ntcc and you are teaching your members to pay tithe and calling them God Robbers, or sinners if they don't, or if you are implying in any way that they are going to go to hell if they don't pay it, or if they don't pay it on time, you are a false prophet and a teacher of false doctrine.

If you want to know where the majority of your tithe dollars are going take a look at the mansions at the top of this blog, and take a look at all the $20 bills that are floating around in the blog background (in the Web Version View).  That's your money.  Shouldn't you know how it is spent?  Wait for that quarter million dollar Recreational Vehicle (RV) to roll up in your driveway on your dime.  Ask the Overseer where the money came from to pay for him to gallivant across the United States on an all expense paid vacation.  If you don't give enough in the offerings, he'll leave right in the middle of revival and find another ntcc brain washing center that will give him and his wife enough money to get to the next place, pay for his RV and go shopping along the way.   Go ask Kekel to let you take a look in his garage at the nice cars he owns or to take a tour of his mansion.  That's where your money is going.  You have heard the Testimonies.  The works overseas are struggling and expected to not only pay all of their own expenses but to catch up all of the money that the ntcc leaders say the last preacher owed them.  The funny thing is, you don't know that for sure.  There is no proof. They don't take you at your word. Why should you take them at their word?  Let's crack open those books. Let's see what the previous Pastor has to say for himself.  Don't just blindly accept Kekel's or anyone else's word for it.  Let's see that proof they're always talking about.

The Toilet Paper Prophesies: Similarities of NTCC and WOFF

 Wasting Valuable Resources in the WOFF and NTCC 

R.W. Davis, the floundering founder of the ntcc has often shared how that if anything were to happen to Verna he would not want another wife because "they are too hard to train" (like a dumb mutt).  Well rest easy Rodger Dodger because we have found the perfect match for you.  Not only is she residing in your home state, (where you 'growed' up in North Carolina) but you won't have to train this one because she already is a successful Cult leader just like you.  The only problem is that we are not sure the world is big enough to contain two ego's this large in such close proximity.

Well, we have searched the world over and we feel that we have found the perfect match for ole R-dub.  Her name is Jane Whaley; and she is the leader of an abusive and manipulative cult called "Word of Faith Fellowship" in Spindale, NC.  We originally found out about her through a website called "Religious Cults Info" which is authored by a long time eX-member of WOFF named John Huddle. One of the blog posts that John wrote about was called: "The Toliet Paper Revelation" [read here].  In this article the 'revelation' was given to the WOFF leader, Jane Whaley, in the bathroom when God told her that toilet paper was being wasted because the rolls were not properly installed on the dispenser.  She then 'preached' that the right way to install a roll of toilet paper was with the paper rolling over the top.  In her revelation she went on to say that there would be less waste than if the paper rolls from underneath.  In a 'church' where adults assemble in groups to scream at and spank children from newborns to adolescents in an attempt to "drive the devil out of them" during 'church services', you would think that the least of God's worries would be about the proper way to install a roll of toilet paper!

WOFF Exposed by Inside Edition on YouTube

R.W. Davis has also spoken out to the church about toilet paper being wasted.  In a comment on our blog post entitled "ntcc Sayings" double-D quoted Davis as saying:  "If you use too much TP- you are wasting the Servicemen's Home (Tillicum, 1973) Resources..." read here .   In the ntcc anything Davis said supposedly came directly from the throne room of God; and many of his rants were considered to be prophesies; thus we have affectionately named this post: "The Toilet Paper Prophesies".  Who would have thought that the subject of toilet paper would have been common "high ground" for these two cult leaders.

In a very recent post on "Religious Cults Info" (here). Jane Whaley receives another revelation that will forever change the way WOFF men handle their bathroom business.  In a blog post entitled "More Bathroom Controls at Word of Faith Fellowship" (here)  we find some very disturbing guidelines that Jane Whaley supposedly received through 'revelation'. Apparently Jane Whaley walked right up to a group of young men and/or boys and explained her new 'revelation' to them. It was shared that she demonstrated the posture in which a male must urinate!  Apparently urinals were outlawed in the restrooms of the WOFF church and school and removed so that males could not view one another as they used the bathroom.  In her new 'revelation' Jane Whaley demonstrated for these young men/boys in a half-squat position, arms extended, elbows out from the body, as if over the toilet, (Perhaps like riding a motorcycle or horse?)  She than introduced another humiliating revelation that the men were not allowed to touch or wipe their private parts unless absolutely necessary; citing that touching the "waste emitting equipment" was forbidden as you might give to the “unclean.”

Bathroom controls were also very humiliating in the ntcc. When R.W. Davis constructed the ntcc national campground all of the shower rooms were wide open with no dividers so that ministers and church members would shower, and take care of #1 and #2 in the same open room.  In the women's shower room it was also very embarrassing; because they had to take care of their feminine hygiene needs without any privacy.  The toilets were pretty close together with no dividers.  There were so few toilets and showers that guys would be waiting for their turn like a bunch of holocaust victims herded into the sprinkler room in anticipation of their lethal toxic showers.  Perhaps that's a little dramatic; but that's what it always reminded me of.  I used to wake up in the middle of the night to avoid the crowds and have a better chance of obtaining a little bit of privacy for #2 which has always been an affair in which privacy is important to me. But even late at night there were others with the same idea. That's what happens when you have hundreds of conference attendees and facilities that only accommodate about 10 at a time for the entire campground. It's no wonder that they had to eventually shut down the campground because the Poo Pond septic system could no longer accommodate the waste.  When word got back to Davis that people were complaining about the accommodations, he would say that "They were too proud." and "They need humility in their lives."

I've really tried hard to look back into the history of God's word and find a precedent for Church leaders controlling the private bathroom habits of their church members and cannot find one example of this anywhere.  You would be hard pressed to find any measures this controlling and definitely no mandates that violate a person's right to take care of their own business in a normal conventional fashion. R.W. Davis and Jane Whaley seem to think otherwise and take pleasure in making folks uncomfortable when it comes to the most private matters in a person's life.  The New Testament does not provide any examples of Jesus directing the disciples when it came to matters of taking care of their personal private needs.

To demonstrate just how compatible these two cult leaders are, we are going to list a few more similarities that R.W. Davis and Jane Whaley share:

1.  They both like to harbor child abusers, molesters and other sexual deviants. In many cases a blind eye is turned toward the parent(s) behavior while the innocent and defenseless child is violated and abused.

Testimony of Child Abuse In WOFF on YouTube

Record of Davis and Kekel Reportedly hiding Michael Fontenot, convicted child rapist, in the NTCC on Xer Blog and  on The Mountain News -- WA

2.  They both practice a ritual called blasting.  In the WOFF blasting seems to be more of a ritual where everyone screams at the top of their lungs to get rid of Satan.  Haven't seen this practiced anywhere in the bible.  In the ntcc blasting refers to Davis or one of his drones screaming at specific individuals from behind the pulpit.  Many of the church members in the ntcc would say, "I don't want to get blasted for missing a church function".  If you did anything contrary to what the Cult leaders required, you ran the risk of "getting blasted".  Blasting in the ntcc was very humiliating and often involved the preacher pointing at individuals and calling them out by name.  Oftentimes the offenses that they were guilty of or allegedly guilty of were not even sins according to the Bible (like the Moreno Story).

3.  They both live in mansions in absolute luxury while many of their ministers and members live in poverty. (See Photo at the top of this blog in the View Web Version mode to check out the Davis and Kekel Bonco Mansions.)  The money is all funneled up to the upper level echelon of leadership.

Mansions of Prosperity Preachers on YouTube

4.  Many of the Church members live in communal compound situations.  In the ntcc the bible school students and school staff are all piled into dorms and cult-controlled rental units (all rent paid only in cash) on the compounds where very strict rules can be imposed on them and enforced through blasting and humiliation.  The Servicemen's Homes are very similar in that many young GI's are packed into tight living quarters and the 'pastors' monitor individuals very closely and impose strict non-biblical rules upon them.  In the WOFF it is reported that many of the members are crammed into tight communal living spaces while the church leaders have big houses and drive in fancy cars.

5. Families and marriages are destroyed and relationships are manipulated.  Both cults operate for the enrichment of their prospective organizations and leadership. In the ntcc many marriages are broken up because one spouse does not conform to the man-made rules and the leadership encourages the 'obedient' spouse to leave the 'disobedient' one.  Kids often become displaced when they are caught up in the melee.  In the WOFF it seems that families are often split up into different houses and living situations.  This has also happened in the ntcc, where one board member dumped his daughter on another board member's family so the so-called dad could play missionary.  In WOFF it is reported that kids are taken from their parents, brothers and sisters are split up into different households and husbands and wives sex lives are controlled and manipulated by Jane Whaley.  In some instances it has been shared that she will order spouses not to have sex for a year or longer. In ntcc, reportedly, Davis once forbad spouses from having sex in their private rooms on the campground during the conference.  Both Jane Whaley and Rodger Davis dictate to their congregants whom they are allowed to marry and whom they are not allowed to marry.

We don't know Jane Whaley's stance on pets; (and, frankly, we don't care either.) But we think we now understand why Davis hates cats so much:  [ It's an emergency-call 911 ;-) ]

Demon Cat Destroys Roll of Toilet Paper On YouTube

There are many more similarities that we can point out; but we think that most people of a sound mind will get the picture.  In all actuality if these two narcissists were to join forces they probably would kill each other; because they are both control freaks and would want full control of the cult. Davis would never allow a woman to tell him how to run his cult.  They say opposites attract; and these two control-mongering cult leaders have too much in common.  If they ever did join forces and combine their manipulative skills it would create an abusive environment the likes of which would be shocking even to the most fanatical modern day cult members.

Remember the story "The Cross and the Switchblade"?  It was part of the story of evangelist David Wilkerson's outreach to gang members.  Below is a video of that man preaching against prosperity preachers like those running WOFF and NTCC.  Pay attention to the words.  It really describes NTCC's top leaders.  Note:  After about 3 minutes there is only the audio, no more pictures.  It's still worth it to hear what he teaches.

David Wilkerson Rebukes Prosperity Heresy on YouTube

New Testament Christian Churches of America, Inc. Winning Friends, Influencing People, And Bartering Teen Brides For Over Four Decades

Barter is a system of exchange by which goods or services are directly exchanged for other goods or services without using a medium of exchange, such as money.[1]  (Source Wikipedia).

Since we started our blog almost three years ago we have heard many horror stories of what it's like to have been part of the ntcc. Many folks regret raising their children in such an environment; and many have shared tragic experiences of how they had to raise their kids in the ntcc. We stumbled across this online review of the ntcc and wanted to share it with our readers.

B. Hawkins says:

September 25, 2012 at 6:34 am

I was raised in NTCC. “I cut my teeth” on the second pew on the right side (women’s side), I played the tamborine every service, I lived on church property until I was 12, and after all these years, I still question this,”religion”. I never knew anything but church. 5 days a week. I watched people being berated over the pulpit under the pretense that they were going to die and go to hell. I watched my family struggle because it was unacceptable for women to work, and we could barely make ends meet. I watched close family members divorce because he was blamed for stealing money from the church for years, but it was really pilfered away by the local pastor and a certain visiting pastor(Denis). I am a witness of the practice of marrying young girls off to older men. My sister and I were both being positioned to men in church. At 15, I was being asked to stay after church for “fellowship” to let the single men know that I was now grown and available. My parents were told to marry my sister and I off to young men at the church, or send us to Bible School, and we would get married there. I bear witness of people being ostracized for “not being right with the Lord”. I know of many instances that pastors were told to “run people away from the church” if questions were ever asked concerning the doctrine and monetary practices of the church. It was not until I went away to college(which was highly discouraged), that I began to distance myself from the church. I learned that there were actually other religions in the world, and that some of them must be going to heaven too! I have no ill will towards the church, although I can no longer accept their doctrine to be true, and I am generally ignored by them when we meet in public.

Bring Your Teen Daughter To
The Meat Market, Oops, I mean
To "Fellowship" So We Can Use
Her To Bribe Some Desperate
Single Brother To Be Our Slave
In Exchange For Your Teen
Daughter Becoming His "Bride".
Meanwhile We Will Also Ensure That
She Remains With Us By Keeping Her
Under-educated And Unemployed.
Plus I Can "Check Her Out" While
She Cleans My Mansion. (Hint Hint)
I May Even Stop By Her Place....
While Her Hubby Does My Job For Me,
I'll Be, Uhm, Shall We Say, Enjoying
Some "Comradely Good Fellowship"
 aka "Fornicating" With The Lass.

Do you think the caption is over the top? Well, we know these very things described have happened over and over again in your ntcc. This review confirms many of the blog posts that we have written and adds to the testimonies of others who have experienced similar circumstances. For every one that musters up the courage to share their testimony there are many others that are kept silent by fear. We hope that this testimony is an encouragement to others who have suffered in a similar way. I kept so much pain inside and was never able to share it with anyone. I was a tortured soul for many years, but when I was able to share my own testimony publicly it released me from the inner prison that held me captive for so many years.

And ye shall know the truth,
and the truth shall make you free.
John 8:32

People look at the blogs and other public forums as filthy gossip tabloids that are run by a few disgruntled eX-members of the ntcc. But the truth is there are hundreds of testimonies that are archived on the blogs, Factnet and online reviews. We are one voice of many. We are not ashamed of our blog or of speaking publicly about what we went through. We have no reason to be afraid of the ntcc leaders whose MO is to use fear to keep people in their place and to keep the money flowing. If you ntcc-ers really love God and want to see the true nature of your so-called 'godly' leaders, try cutting off their money supply and see what really lies in their hearts. Stop paying tithe and start giving like they did in the early church (Acts 4:32-35), when folks shared what they had with their brethren. They sold their possessions and laid the money at the Apostles' feet and what did they do with the money? Did they buy themselves mansions? Did they spend it on themselves? No, they distributed it to their brethren according as they had need. We know we have passed from death unto life because we love the brethren.

What do you think Davis or Kekel would do if one of you ministers got enough intestinal fortitude to start doing what's right with the money you collect from your church members? What if you stopped sending it to Washington and it hindered their ability to heap more wealth upon themselves? Do you think that would go over very well? Or, better yet, if you are a single brother in the military walk up to the prettiest single sister in the church and tell her that you would like to take her out to dinner. If your pastor tries to stop you, ask him what biblical grounds he has to stop you. Tell him to mind his own business and pay more attention to his own wife. Perhaps if ntcc ministers were less involved in everyone else's business they would have fewer divorces and would not cheat on their spouses so much! You know this happens and it all gets brushed under the filthy ntcc carpet.

What hypocrites. They are the first ones to jack you up if you try to be normal and have an ordinary relationship. I know what I'm talking about. I love my wife and it is my pleasure to give her anything that I'm able to give her. I honor her and treat her with love and respect. We were cheated out of twenty years of marriage by a couple of lousy second rate sleazy religious hucksters who are now on the revival circuit pedaling their propaganda and victimizing anyone who will allow it.  Don't be their next victim.  Learn from the truths we share here.  Be yourself.  Allow God to lead you.  Don't be afraid of man.  The bible says the fear of man brings a snare.  We know.  We fell for it and paid in spades.  You don't have to.  Set yourself free by fearing the Lord, not man.

You can call me bitter if you want, I've got nothing but love for you. You can tell us to "move on' or to "get over it"; but we love you too much to sit back and say nothing while a bunch of hypocrites control your lives. Think what you want about us; but we are here to help those who want to be helped. If you are hell-bent on allowing some hireling to tell you whom you can talk to, which relatives you can have in your lives, which people you can have at your house or in your car, whom you can hang out with, whom you can date, whom you can share your life with, what other churches you cannot visit, what people you can fellowship with, well then, we might not be able to help you, but don't begrudge us the opportunity to try. If you need someone to control your life to this extent then what kind of a Christian are you? Is God not able to keep you?  We know He is able.  Will you allow HIM to truly be YOUR Lord, YOUR" Absolute Ruler"?

The fear of man bringeth a snare: but whoso putteth his trust in the LORD shall be safe.  Prov 29:25

The Moreno Family

Roland and Maria

Perhaps the worst tragedy in the history of NTCC is the death at gunpoint of four members of the Moreno family.

It is our opinion that the many well documented abusive practices and false doctrines of the NTCC caused this tragic loss of four souls.

The scope of this tragedy is so huge, we have discussed it in several articles.  So we've created a series linking these related articles that we feel address the issues that contributed to this tragedy.

There is a link [below] for the series.  It will open a mobile format showing the related posts' titles and thumbnail photos.  We recommend reading in chronological order, starting with the oldest posts that are at the bottom of the series' page.  You can use your browser's "Back" button to return to the series' summary page after reading each article.

We hope people will read this truly tragic story and understand the deadly consequence of teaching false doctrines and of abusing souls under the guise of religion.

To read about this loss of:

The Moreno Family Click Here

The Last Hope for Mankind? ntcc's "Us Vs. Them" False Doctrine

Us Four, No More:

It has been shared in conferences, and in many ntcc churches, that the ntcc is "the last hope for mankind in this lost and dying world".  If you happen to be a church member in a ntcc church, and you visit another church, you will be told something like this:  "God saved you in this church.  If all the other churches were right with God, why would God raise up  this church in these last days?"  Then the church 'in question' would be scrutinized by ntcc doctrine.  This could be done in a church service by a practice known as blasting other religions and denominations in a way that humiliates the church member that attended the 'unrighteous' church.

ntcc teaches a false
"Us Vs. Them" doctrine
Using Cult Jargon to
set themselves up as
"The Last Hope for Mankind"

We have all seen this many times.  It takes place in a setting where others can learn the borg way and be admonished to tow the ntcc line or else....  It happens in Bible studies, church services and during fellowship.  It happened more frequently than I care to remember.  This will happen to you if you decide to go to another church.  It has happened to new members and not so new members.  It has happened to tithe paying = "faithful" members and to the unsuspecting Sunday church goers. [1st Time Visitor's Story Click To Read More]

If a person skipped a Sunday service or even a bible study, questions were sure to be asked. As he or she entered the tabernacle to attend this week's church service, the Pastor would be there to shake all of the unsuspecting church goers' hands and ask the most recent absentee the question: "We missed you last Sunday; What happened?" The "Church- Hopping" individual would then be expected to give an explanation in front of others as to why he or she was not in church.  Usually he or she would say something like, "My roommate invited me to his or her church" or "I decided to go to the post chapel."  While you and I know this is fine with God, it violates ntcc rules.  So the witchhunt begins.  More often times than not, the so-called ntcc 'pastor' [blaster] would make a mental note of this and begin to ponder how this might fit into today's 'message from Gawd'.

We all know what's getting ready to happen.  We've seen it many times.  And for some weird reason we've blindly accepted this anti-Christian behavior.  The Bible would open and something like this would be blurted out by the maniac behind the pulpit.

Where were you on Sunday?
It's MY way or The Highway!
"I consider them" [Christians
who leave ntcc] "my enemy!"
 snarls ntcc ceo, m.c. kekel 

"I had a message all prepared about the love of God, but at the last minute Gawd changed it.  So now I'm going to speak to you about CHURCH-HOPPING!  *scowl*  *pause for effect*  CHURCH-HOPPING!"  The preacher is getting ready to establish a few things.

• First he is going to publicly humiliate the person who missed church by blasting him or her for attending another church.
• Then he is going to dissect the doctrine of the other church by using ntcc man-made doctrine.
• Finally he is going to instill fear into the hearts of everyone in the congregation so that they will be afraid to attend any other church.

Public humiliation was a tool used by Davis [and other ntcc hirelings] to keep people in line.  Everyone in the ntcc was taught by Olson or their local pastor 

• that Davis was "the first man up before the throne of God".
• Others thought Davis was  "The twenty fourth elder"
• that whatever Davis said came directly from the throne of God!

So public humiliation and 'blasting' people was learned behavior; it was emulated by every ntcc preacher that all of us ever listened to.  To be humiliated in front of your peers would either make you fear to step out of line ever again, or would make you mad enough to leave and never come back.

"The reason you went to another church was because you want a compromising religion that will allow you to live any way that you want."  This was stated more times than I could remember; it implies that the ntcc is right; and the 'other' church 'in question' is wrong.  It implies that if you go to that church it is because you are rejecting God and you want your sin!

Not only are you being singled out and humiliated, but, in many cases, you will be ridiculed and made fun of for attending 'another' church.  Cult jargon will be used:

Cult Jargon To Promote NTCC by Attacking 'Other' Churches:

• "You want sin; and you know you can't have it in this church."
• "This is Gawd's church."
• "We are the last move of Gawd on this earth."
• "Gawd has raised us up for such a time as this."
• "If all the other churches were doing right, there would be no need for Gawd to raise up US [the ntcc]."
• "But you think you know more than Gawd."
• "You go to another church so you can have your sin."
• "You're just a church-hopper!"
• "Gawd saved you here; He wants you to stay here."
• "If you really love Gawd, you wouldn't want to be anywhere else."
• "Sure there are 'other' churches out there; but if they were right with Gawd, they would do what we do."

Has anyone heard this stuff before?  I've seen ntcc 'preachers' point their fingers at the 'offenders' and scream at the top of ntcc lungs at them.  Is that how God treats His sheep?  I've seen visitors' and church members' faces get red and people tremble and cry because they are being humiliated in front of a group of people that they either barely know or consider friends and family.  Moreno Tragedy Click To Read More

The 'preacher' that "hides behind the pulpit" and dispenses out fear and rebuke usually gets his followers to do a lot of the ground work for him.  The "soul winner" is expected to get details from the "contact" as to why he or she was not in church.  What church did they attend?  What was the reason they went to that church?

Not Pure Holiness:  But A Man-Made Doctrine of "Us Vs. Them":

For every church there was an ntcc doctrinal explanation to  refute the other church's beliefs, claim they're wrong, and place them in hell for their doctrine.  To do this, ntcc had to create rules and doctrines that made them different than "all of the other churches".  "Holiness" was a term that the ntcc used to describe a movement that came about in the latter part of the 19th century.  This doctrine mandated outward appearance as required evidence of salvation.  I'm not making this up.  If you don't believe me, do some historical research.

The definition of holiness, as it was dictated to us by the ntcc, actually came about in the mid - to - late 1800's.  I guess before that God never required this type of Holiness.

The term 'holiness' was coined by religious groups to describe the way they looked and to distinguish themselves from everyone else, kind of like the Pharisees did!

Although Holiness is a biblical word that means to be set apart, it was the use of this word that was manipulated to create a set of standards that would exclude other groups from heaven by the way they dressed.  The ntcc also used many other man-made rules that governed aspects of their lives that can be found nowhere in the bible. Having to get permission to make everyday decisions that normal people make without consulting another man is an indication that you are in a cult and should send up red flags all over the place. But in the ntcc these rules are used to control you; and they are indicators of your 'faithfulness' to ntcc.

Strict adherence to rules set the ntcc apart from all other churches and caused people to measure themselves against all others and think that they were part of the last move of God on this earth.  But in reality this doctrine of division causes pride to take root, divides the members of the body of Christ,  and creates the "Us Vs. Them" mentality we are discussing here.

The Fear Factor

For a cult to be successful and to accomplish their goal, they must operate in an environment of fear.  Fear is used to keep people in their places; and it is also used to prevent people from ever questioning the so-called 'leaders'.  You know what will happen to you if you question the so-called "man of gawd".  You have seen it too many times.  You will be jacked up just like everyone else.  This fear keeps you in a place where you will never get anywhere.  It is counterproductive to what God wants in the life of a Christian.

There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love. 1 Jo 4:18

You cannot live in fear and have perfect love in your heart.  But fear is absolutely present in every ntcc church-goer's life.  It is used continually by ntcc to keep you in your place below them, and to keep you from questioning the powers that be.

Guilty or Forgiven?

Another primary function and role that fear plays in the ntcc members' lives is to make them blame themselves for everything that is wrong in their lives.  While we are ultimately responsible for our own decisions, we are manipulated to look inward at all of our defects and to ignore the root [ntcc] causes of them.

We were placed in an environment where we were led to believe that our 'leaders' all had the victory over sin.  But that is a lie; for it is written:

If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 1 Jo 1:8

If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. 1 Jo 1:10

We were also led to believe that if we didn't live the same lie as they did, we would die and go to hell.  As a result, those who leave the borg often blame themselves; when, instead, they are truly forgiven by God and accepted in the beloved:

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us [our] sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 1 Jo 1:9

To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved. Eph 1:6

But some don't know these scriptural truths.  As a result of ntcc false doctrine that teaches them to blame themselves, sometimes for things that aren't even sin, when they leave ntcc, some of them loose every bit of self worth they ever had.  They live in fear and condemnation.  But it doesn't have to be that way.  When we confess our sin, God forgives us and accepts us in Christ.

Still Silent?

For others, they may not doubt their Christianity.  But years after leaving ntcc, they're afraid to say anything about "the organization" ntcc.  Why?  They were trained to "keep their mouths shut and pray".  They were told not to question the "man of gawd".  They were spiritually abused.  The abuse victim is more often than not, afraid of the abuser.  Guess what?  The ntcc never had the victory over all sin as they try to get you to believe; and if they say that they do, they are liars.  Their sin goes a whole lot deeper than smoking or drinking or cursing.  Their sins are much worse; because in the process of establishing their self-righteousness, and acquiring vast amounts of wealth, they have hurt the very ones that God intended to save!

This ntcc cult thrives; because it receives very little opposition.   Most people are afraid to share true stories of what they went through.  There are so many people out there that have been spiritually molested and taken advantage of while in the ntcc.  If we all spoke out, the ntcc would be out of business.  But many people keep the hurt bottled up inside because of fear.  Fear that if they speak against the ntcc, that they are speaking against God.  That just isn't so.  The Apostles pointed out false doctrines and false prophets and so did Jesus.  We should not fear doing the same!

The ntcc is NOT the last hope for mankind.  Who is?  God has made it clear that JESUS IS the last hope for mankind.  Now, thanks to ntcc religiosity,  many people are so sick to death of religion.  So I'm not going to sit here and try to ram anything down anyone's throat.  I will say that the ntcc is nothing like what God intended for his people.  Sending Jesus to die for our sins was the greatest act of love ever displayed in the history of mankind.

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16

Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. John 15:13

It's called grace; and it's something that NONE of us deserve.  Compare grace to ntcc doctrine and you will see how flawed they are.  We started this blog not just for the purpose of getting people to leave a cult, but to also let people know that Christianity does exist outside of the ntcc; and it exists in much greater abundance.

ntcc says "My Way or Hit  The Highway"
It's time to Get Right or Get Left (Behind)
"You're Gonna Split Hell Wide Open"

You do not have to be a part of a ritual and be a member of some group to be a part of God's family.  Your spiritual choices are yours to make; but God is more than able to lead us and keep us without some abusive jerk dictating a bunch of controlling rules to us and using the fear of hell to keep us in the place that he wants us to be.

I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that he is able to keep that which I have committed unto him against that day. 2 Ti 1:12

[There is] therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. Rom 8:1

For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. Rom 8:2

Notice this scripture says nothing about what church you attend.  It is talking about believing in Christ and what He did for us.  It talks about being led by the Spirit of life in Christ, not condemning ourselves under the law of sin and death or man-made rules made by some hypocrite who sees us as a gravy train.

The single most important step in the right direction for someone living in false condemnation like what ntcc dishes out, is to get as far away as you possibly can from the ntcc or any group that claims or implies that they are the the last hope for mankind!

Remember Jesus IS the last hope for mankind.  Check out this lyric video of a song called "Not Alone" by a group called "Red".

Not Alone by Red Video Click Here


That by two immutable things, in which [it was] impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us: Heb 6:18

Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; Tts 2:13

Life and Death: Ezekiel Cereal

Deu 30:19   I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, [that] I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:

Crazy kekel quote:

"... like those filthy evil children as they throw a hissy fit in the cookie aisle of the grocery store." - m c kekel

Lord's Liberty of Life:

Psa 127:4  As arrows [are] in the hand of a mighty man; so [are] children of the youth.

Psa 127:5  Happy [is] the man that hath his quiver full of them: they shall not be ashamed, but they shall speak with the enemies in the gate.

davis doctrine of death:

"Children hinder the work of the Lord." - r w davis


Lord's Liberty of Life:

1Ch 25:5  All these [were] the sons of Heman the king's seer in the words of God, to lift up the horn. And God gave to Heman fourteen sons and three daughters.

1Ch 25:6  All these [were] under the hands of their father for song [in] the house of the LORD, with cymbals, psalteries, and harps, for the service of the house of God, according to the king's order to Asaph, Jeduthun, and Heman.

davis doctrine of death:

"Lady, you're gonna have to answer to Gawd [face the wrath of God] for ruining your husband's ministry [by getting pregnant]!" - r w davis

Lord's Liberty of Life:

Pro 31:10  ¶ Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price [is] far above rubies.

Pro 31:11  The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil.

Pro 31:12  She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life.

Pro 31:28  Her children arise up, and call her blessed; her husband [also], and he praiseth her.

Pro 31:29  Many daughters have done virtuously, but thou excellest them all.

Demonic davis Doctrine of Death:

"Don't bring the poor to church.  You don't build a church that way!" - r w davis

The Lord's Liberty of Life:

[Of The Virtuous Woman it is written:]

Pro 31:20 She stretcheth out her hand to the poor; yea, she reacheth forth her hands to the needy.

And it is written:
Psa 41:1  [[To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David.]] Blessed [is] he that considereth the poor: the LORD will deliver him in time of trouble.

Pro 29:7  The righteous considereth the cause of the poor: [but] the wicked regardeth not to know [it].

Devilish davis Doctrine:

"We don't give our money to the homeless.  That's God's money." - r w davis

God Says:

Pro 19:17 He that hath pity upon the poor lendeth unto the LORD; and that which he hath given will he pay him again.
Ashmore Contradicts God's Command:

One woman reported that when she visited orphans in the Philippines, her ntcc 'pastor', james ross ashmore, wanted her to stop this good work, telling her:

"We [in ntcc] just don't do that.  [Don't visit orphans.]"

The Bible Says:

Jam 1:27  Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, [and] to keep himself unspotted from the world.

ntcc is clearly a defiled religion before God and the Father!

Peter's Denial:

When I first started learning about the bible, I was surprised to find that some things in the bible were examples of what NOT to do.  For instance, Peter boasting he would follow Christ to death, when in actuality, the Lord had to pray that Peter's faith would not fail; as it is written:

Luk 22:31  ¶ And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired [to have] you, that he may sift [you] as wheat:

Luk 22:32  But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.

Luk 22:33  And he said unto him, Lord, I am ready to go with thee, both into prison, and to death.

Luk 22:34  And he said, I tell thee, Peter, the cock shall not crow this day, before that thou shalt thrice deny that thou knowest me.

I used to think everything in the bible was something to imitate.  But this story of Peter's boasting taught me something.  Some things are recorded so we will not do them; so we will know what to avoid.  Look at this picture:

Ezekiel Cereal:

Ezekiel Cereal?  Baked over dung?
Proof that Men may have an idea.
But it is best to follow God's plan.

I'm sure the people who made this cereal thought they were following a biblical pattern for a great meal.  But those who know that portion of the scripture, know it is an example of impending judgment:

Eze 4:9  (partial)  ¶ Take thou also unto thee wheat, and barley, and beans, and lentiles, and millet, and fitches, and put them in one vessel, and make thee bread thereof, ...

Eze 4:12  And thou shalt eat it [as] barley cakes, and thou shalt bake it with dung that cometh out of man, in their sight.

Eze 4:13  And the LORD said, Even thus shall the children of Israel eat their defiled bread among the Gentiles, whither I will drive them.

As even krazy kekel once pointed out, anything you cook over a flame absorbs the flavor of the smoke.  Think of mesquite barbecue (bbq)...  Ezekiel was not using wood, but dung to cook this food.  Eewww.  Yuck!  Clearly that is not something to be admired or imitated!

What NOT to do:

So just like those cereal manufacturers, some of you have joined ntcc, thinking it is an example of what to do; thinking they will teach you how to draw near to God.  But they are actually pushing you farther away from God, by teaching devilish doctrines of men.

Mar 7:13  Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.

Instead of the savor of life that comes from the Spirit-led walk of Christianity lived according to God's Word, the ntcc pattern yields a savor of death.

2Cr 2:14  Now thanks [be] unto God, which always causeth us to triumph in Christ, and maketh manifest the savour of his knowledge by us in every place.

2Cr 2:15  For we are unto God a sweet savour of Christ, in them that are saved, and in them that perish:

2Cr 2:16  To the one [we are] the savour of death unto death; and to the other the savour of life unto life. And who [is] sufficient for these things?

2Cr 2:17  For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ.

Will you choose to dwell in the demonic davis doctrine of death?  Or will you leave ntcc and pursue the liberty of life in Christ?  It is your choice.   Choose LIFE.  :o)

Moreno Tragedy

A very dark chapter of ntcc's history is the Moreno Tragedy.

In September of 2003 Roland Moreno murdered his pregnant wife, 5 year-old son, and then allegedly shot himself ending his life too.

Triple Murder and Suicide(?) Online News Story Click Here

Was it really a gun
 that killed the Moreno family? 
 Or was it the ntcc / davis 
 false doctrine that 
 "children hinder  the
work of the borg lawd" ?! 

People who knew him were stunned.  He had been part of ntcc and wanted to go into servicemen's work.  But ntcc supposedly did not allow people with children to run servicemen's homes, although both the Bradeens and Taylors did so for years and years.  In the news article it was reported that when he found out his wife was pregnant, Moreno bought a gun.  He shot her, their boy, then called his ntcc pastor, Jake Espinoza, confessed, asked for prayer, and then allegedly shot himself dead.

How tragic.  ntcc should stop teaching the lie that "children hinder the work of gawd".  Especially since the man who teaches that false doctrine, Rodger Wilson Davis, made sure he and his second wife (after adultery, divorce, and marriage), Verna Mae, would have a child to raise.  They went out of their way to adopt a girl in the Philippines.  Some speculate that their daughter may be the illegitimate child of Davis with "another woman" - Elizabeth Haynes Reynolds, who is listed as the girl's birth mother on the Adoption Registry search for Tanya Tanya Maxamillia Reynolds Davis Kekel (Sister Kekel, wife of Mike/ Michael Craig Kekel, NTCC CEO):

Tanya Kekel Adoption Registry Search Click Here

We mention this adoption since it shows the significant double standard that exists in the NTCC, where the Board Members tell you to sacrifice, while they do whatever they wish.  These life-altering sacrifices, taught by the NTCC but not kept by NTCC leaders, have permanent deadly consequences.  These deadly double standards are enforced with rigorous public humiliation like yelling at pregnant women from the pulpit telling them "Lady, you are going to have to answer to God for ruining your husband's ministry!"  Well, who will answer to God for the despair that drove Roland Moreno to murder his son and pregnant wife when he learned she was pregnant?

Related Posts:

Phil Kinson's Adultery's Impact On The Moreno Murders:  click here

To read the full series about the loss of

The Moreno Family Click Here

YOUR CHILDREN ARE NOT WELCOME in NTCC

 Why was it okay for
 kekel's kid to play ball?
 But a 'sin' for yours? 

We've all heard davis rant how YOUR "children hinder the work of Gawd"; and we know how davis forced all infants out of church into a nursery, teaching his bs students, "I'd never have a church without a nursery."    One time at the campground, during a small service of only building crew members, davis had verna remove grant-o from a service because the toddler called out "Paw Paw" (grandpa).  You get the idea that davis hates kids.  Unlike the Savior; Who commanded the disciples to allow little children to come to Him; and He laid His hands on them and blessed them.

Then there were the years before grant kekel's birth when children had to be perfect little ministers sitting silently and motionless through long services geared only for adults.  Once grant came along, however, the davis-deity pendulum swung the other way and all children were forced into the childrens' church venue...  Basically, in NTCC even children were not exempt from dangerous davis dogma.

One former minister testified to seeing davis jack-up a young teenage girl for playing sports as her parents stood by in silence and allowed it; the girl was in tears when davis was done with her.  But nobody peeped when grant kekel was playing football (#72) and basketball with his private academy's "Tarriers" team (to the tune of $20,000 a year; we might add.)

Charles Wright Academy #1 video link


Let's look at the bible and contrast God's heart to davis-dogma.
Most are familiar with John the Baptist.  God prophesied of his birth, the voice of one crying in the wilderness.  Before his birth, John's parents, Elisabeth and Zacharias went years without having children.  In Israel this was considered a very bad thing (a reproach).  Clearly God's Word teaches that children are a blessing.  The natural tendency was for others to look down on people who had no kids as if they were doing something wrong; maybe they had sinned and were being judged by God?...

Well, God was going to remove this reproach from righteous Elisabeth and Zacharias by blessing them with a son, John the Baptist.

This morning as we discussed these things, we saw the contrast in the biblical example of viewing children as a blessing and the NTCC warped teaching that davis consantly put forth that YOUR "Children hinder the work of the Lawd."  This erroneous, hypocritical (since davis adopted tanya reynolds davis kekel) and devilish davis doctrine was the root of the vasectomy rule and was brutually reinforced by publically humiliating couples with children.   How many times have we heard davis railing on pregnant women saying, "Lady, you're gonna have to answer to Gawd for ruining your husband's ministry?"  Women, our friends and sisters in Christ, were literally in tears over this maniac's railing accusation.  Some were brow-beaten into 'soul-winning' until the point of exhaustion, puking out the car windows or on the side of the road; and one that we know of had a miscarriage because she was pushed by the NTCC 'pastor' to keep the church schedule even though she needed bedrest!  All because daddy davis reviles them (and God) by bellowing how YOUR "children hinder the work of Gawd!")

Well, coincidentally, the wife of a former NTCC minister left some comments concerning a different thread called "Grant Kekel's Land: Part of the Arizona Properties"  Here's what she said:

Nicole said:
Convincing someone they will go to hell if they do not comply is a very powerful tool in the hands of manipulators towards those who are vulnurable. A lot of people wasted their lives in ntcc, their talent, and many missed out on their onlychance in life to have children. I was just thinking today about Katie Pellicia who was so brainwashed by ntcc, she actually considered and asked those above her about getting her tubes tied... at the incredible age of 21 or 23, early twenties.

Nicole said:
I'm currently attending culinary school. Do you know what my chef/teacher always tells me? Family comes first. Take care of your family before you try and squeeze anymore classes in. I've talked with a therapist about my marriage and she clearly saw how marraige was to benefit the church - it was not about us. That's why I wasn't even allowed to sit by my husband in the serviceman's home and why I wasn't even allowed to participate in church activities such as "soul winnin" with him. It's why military couples have to get to the brink of divorce before they can take a break from the so called "godly" work and schedule.

Nicole said:
My oldest son said many of those he knew thought he was extremely lucky when his step-dad finally decided to stop going and I (who had been patiently waiting because I did not want to lose him) happily agreed. Ask the real estate agent Cheryl Merz about how much ntcc children can do and why she feels she has to swoop in with her big money and pay for these children to go to chuckie cheese or just have a little fun because their parents are so broke.

Nicole said:

Your children are all you truly have in this life. I cherish mine more than life itself. I have saving accounts set up and I take them to classes to enrich their lives and help them learn things that may have not fit into the church schedule before. They play sports and they are learning how to have a happy well balanced life.

Don and Ange said

Wow!!!! Thanks for telling us about some of your experience and what you learned.   We think people don't realize the devastation NTCC inflicted on others. If it helps one person avoid the NTCC, to us, it is worth it.

We want people considering NTCC to know this group's history.  We want the kids who went through this mess to know:  YOU DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG!  We want the parents to wake up and consider what you are asking or have asked of your children.  We know there are powerful mind control mechanisms well entrenched in the NTCC CULTure.  We know how people can be convinced to do things that really harm their families and their lives in this unhealthy NTCC environment.  We want people to start viewing their lives and ask:

What does God want?
What does God's Word teach?

If davis-doctrine or any other doctrine does not line up with the Word of God, chuck it.  Set yourself free by knowing the Truth.  Jesus is the Truth and the Word of God.  Study.  Pray.  Act.  We know when you do this, God will lead you out of the NTCC to a place where YOUR children are welcome and willing to accept the grace of Christ rather than a set of rules that push them away, restrict their freedom, and hinder their relationship with the Lord.

Why Delete The Truth?

Hmnn...To Delete Or Not... 

On Deb's and Greg's blog, on the thread titled The Fear and Frustration in facing Pastor Davis. Fresh from the manly mind of Pastor Briggs... a former ntcc minister (who at one time lived in the Hawaii ntcc servicemens' home) named Kris M. asked Greg or Deb to remove all of Kris's previous comments from their blog.  Here's our reaction to this:  

Don and Ange said...

Greg, we are glad you don't have time right now to delete Kris's comments. 

Kris wrote such good  comments with real insight to how ntcc operates based solely on his personal experience and growing knowledge of the bible.  It seems counterproductive to remove these true stories.

We wonder if Kris has left the ntcc only physically, but is still held captive by the ntcc spiritually.

ntcc uses fear to control people.  ntcc even twists a natural fear or reverence of God into an unnatural fearful spirit that makes people do strange things.  People are too afraid of God; we wonder if that is the case here too.

God did instruct not to touch His anointed; yet God also records instances of His anointed being corrected and even rebuked.

The bible admonishes us to study the word so we can rightly divide the word of truth.

God never intended our reverence of Him to cause us to  hide hypocrisy.  Jesus clearly openly rebuked the hypocrites, warning them of impending judgment.

We don't need to fear eXposing ntcc's rampant hypocrisy, and double standards, and blatant sin.  We should see it as our duty to sound the trumpet to warn others of the ntcc's false doctrines just as the apostles clearly warned Christians of false teachers; writing letters that are now the books of the new testament.  They constantly detailed the differences between real Christianity and hypocrisy.  There is no shame in the truth  and no need to delete or hide our comments or articles based on real life experiences and knowledge of the truth.

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E)   kekel Is Weak

F)   Create Your Own By Leaving A Comment:  Example:  "F"  I'm afraid to be caught commenting on this blog

G)   Glad To Be Out of ntcc

H)  Create Your Own

I)    I'm Thinking Of Leaving ntcc

J)  Create Your Own

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