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A safe place for Xers to share their stories and heal.

A place to learn what it's really like in the ntcc founded by Rodger Wilson Davis;
and run by his son-in-law, Michael Craig Kekel,
the father of the one vasectomy-rule-exception kid in ntcc, Grant Davison Kekel.

Ezekiel 12:11

Say, I 'am' your sign: like as I have done, so shall it be done unto them: they shall remove 'and' go into captivity.

He Loves A House More Than God: Bonco Mansions of kekel (l) and davis (r)

He Loves A House More Than God:  Bonco Mansions of kekel (l) and davis (r)
"He loves a house more than God:" *Bonco* Mansions of kekel (l) and davis (r). Meanwhile, on the mission field: ntcc Missionaries to the Philippines "Rev. and Sis. Mackert ... found a place, 9 feet by 14 feet [9'x14'] and one bathroom. It is on the 6th floor and there is no elevator. The last place they had stayed, they had to share a common bathroom with the other tenants! Yikes! This place has their very own private bathroom, although the Rev. shared there is no seat on the throne, and no way to attach one…." from The Devonshire Files Sunday, May 28, 2006 Visit from the Mackerts (5/06). ** Should you know where the money ($$$$$) goes? **

Jesus In The Temple

Matt 21:12 And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves, Matt 21:13 And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.
Gal. 4:16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth? John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. 1 John 4:6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Skip To Blue Letter Bible Search Tool

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Saturday, February 15, 2014

Sweet Sixteen And Never Been Kissed? What A Joke!

Future Bible School
Students being Groomed
for Marriage Early
An Arranged Marriage in Syria reminds us of how the ntcc forces children to age-up and sex-up.

Julie shares the Following Testimony:

Wow sometimes I don’t know which part of my life is the hardest to share for it seems like just one messing pile. This though I feel is an important one for I know how others might view without this information. I do not have even little detail but I will share what I do know. What led to my teen marriage in NTCC? Now first off I want to say if you had a teen marriage it was successful and lasted my hat goes off to you. What led to my marriage just wasn't right. Even at ten and eleven I knew I would be married young it was just a given as long as they found someone to do it. I was wearing high heels by the time I was 11 some when I was 10. I would twist my ankle and fall a lot. What were they thinking having a child one with cerebral palsy no less having her wear high heels. Oh I forgot they felt directed by God. What made someone think little girls wearing them was a good idea was crazy. I would have to wear them at school at times as everything I wore was chosen for me. Let’s see the children already had enough to make fun of me. This only added to the torment. They made fun of my cerebral palsy, the fact I couldn't keep up in school, the fact I couldn't walk normally, and how I dressed just to name a few. In fact “the retarded snail” or “the snail” is some of the names of the years. It wasn't surprising to me for it seemed to follow me even at home.

Girl in Leg Braces and Crutches Wears High Heels and a Dress. Video Link

As I got older my parents of trying to find me a spouse. I remember sitting a restaurant with my parents, Davis, and Verna; Davis was discussing me getting married. I was only 13 years old at this time. Davis made fun of the fact I still was not dating anyone yet….saying so no one wants you. I just looked at the ground and he just grunted and said “Even she is embarrassed of herself.” Then turned to my parents saying it made be hard to find someone willing to marry someone like her people just don’t want a handicap retard person as a wife. I sat there feeling so worthless and like I had failed somehow in life. I felt it was my fault I had cerebral palsy and that I was being a burden to those around me. I carried the feeling I was a burden for years.

Donny and Julie Both Had Cold Feet, But
their  Marriage Was Arranged By GAWD
(Davis) The Grand Poobah of Match Making

When they decided to poof my hair, one thing I remember about this moment; is it being said that me not having poofy hair was added to no man wanting me. I would be very upset if someone tried to fix up my child with an adult. I will never forget the day I had to start poofing my hair. I was 14 years old. I had already been wearing pantyhose and high heels since 11 years old. Tanya Kekel came over and took me up to the attic in the Lakewood house which was my room. She sat me down and without warning began poofing my hair. I began to cry for I didn't want the hair do. I was told I would get the belt if I didn't stop and go forward with a willing attitude. I feared who would be giving it so I numbed the pain away. (My father or Kekel)

At an Early Age Debbie Johnson Kinson Shows Some Leg Before the Camera.  At 
This Time the Girls were Swooning Over "The Hot Rock Star" Vic Johanson as an Eligible Bachelor.

Though Other Girls Were Swooning, Edna Got The Prize, And They Are Still Married Today

The next month I was told who I was going to date and eventually marry. September conference 1988 I don’t know what those that were there that year remember but this is what happened in my life. First I want to share something I only know little bit about. On the way to that conference my father walked over to Donny’s car at a rest stop and said I heard you asked about my daughter. Now I was the further thing from Donny’s mind that day so what got it into my father’s head to do that I do not know. Maybe someone else knows something on that one. My parents had me ride in another person’s car so I wasn't present for this conversation. From that point to getting to conference it was decided we would have our first talking for I just don’t see it as a date.

Monday night we were chaperoned after the evening service at a local restaurant. This is after he had to ask the leader’s permission. That was crazy to say the least. This went on each night of the conference including having to ask permission. I believe my parents put a lot of pressure on him to talk (date) me. He talked nice to me but why would my parents not go: "My daughter is 14 years old just so you know; I don’t want you dating her",  I will never understand.

Donny didn't know how old I was at this time just from talking with me that I grew up most of my life in the group. We went back to Washington and since my parents went to Thursday night services at Graham. This is where we began to talk on what many know as the wall. He would have to ask permission from one of the leaders then go ask my father and my mother would say some stuff to him. Then we would sit and talk. It was a circus to even talk to me. This continued until He graduated from bible school the following year in which he left for San Antonio Texas. We began to write long distance. This was crazy as well for my mother had to both help read as well as write him back. We also talked on the phone with all calls being listened too. What craziness.

I don’t know all the details of this next moment but at the end of ’89 he decided he wanted to end and not marry such a young person. Not sure how Davis got wind of it but he did. Davis flew out to San Antonio and told Donny he couldn't end this he had to go through with it. People if that isn't control I don’t know what is.

The next year I turned 16. In the spring conference Donny proposal to me at a restaurant after church. The proposal was so crazy. He went to propose to me. My father wouldn't even let him do it the way he wanted and ended up making a scene in my opinion. Donny ended up doing it as my father wanted. (I look back on all this thinking this man had to deal with so much)

After this conference we went back to writing and talking on the phone. It began to be tossed about when we would get married by everyone but us. I wanted to go back to school and graduate even told my parents this many of times. So put on the face and go on with life. Then there came the talk of me not getting married until after I turned 17 and then there was talk of me spending some time in the dorm going to bible school. Then it went back to no we were getting married in my 17th year. So what happened next I wouldn't have accepted in a million years yet it isn't a surprised?

Fall conference of 1990 now that was beyond insane in my opinion. My parents and I came in from Washington to Missouri. I had a few new outfits which I was excited about at the time. My mother was acting strange like she had something on her mind but didn't share what she knew. We went to Monday blasting and put down session afterwards we went over to the talking building (fellowship hall to some) Davis walked up to me and said you are getting married Friday. You need to go get your license tomorrow. I stood shocked no one had ever said anything to me about this happening at this point. At first I thought maybe Donny had made plans I was unaware of but it just didn't add up that it would be the case with him. The next day my parents, Donny, and I went down to the court house I begged my father while I stood in the doorway of my parents room to let me wait I didn’t want to do it at this point. I didn't have my dress with me there were people I wanted to be there. Even though I didn't have the words I was trying to say I didn’t have the emotional ability to do this. My father wouldn't hear of it. He told me I could marry or the street would be my home since I was not allowed to stay at home anymore. 

We were at a servicemen’s home and Davis wanted my parents to go to another one but this time without me. I felt so lost at that time but I knew I must not let people know how I feel so the brave I am happy face went on. My parents signed the marriage papers agreeing to have their 16 year old to get married. We scrambled to try to decide what I was to wear. Finally realizing that my clothes would just have to do. My mother in all the scrambling made a comment, “I was going to bring your dress but there wasn't room.” Light bulb goes on….why would she bring the dress? Did she know about this already? Asked her but no real answer until later. Yes she knew here it was my life she was dealing with. If I was old enough to marry….why wasn't it my chose to how and when it happened? Later she admitted that she knew before we ever came to conference. Why was it a secret? So many whys for me. 

We began to continue to figure out what I had to take with me; for my parents would be first heading back to Washington before the next work and I was heading to San Antonio with my husband. It was insane the poor man (Donny) was not given any warning that he would be taking a bride home. He had used all his money to fix the car to get to conference and he had guys with him helping to pay the way to and from conference. They were left to scramble to get a ride home. We had to borrow money to just get from conference home to Texas. He wasn't even give time to be ready for me to even come to Texas. Then the day before the big day. I was so full of emotions not able to share with those around me the worse thoughts and feelings going through me for I was to be excited to get married. 

I had never lived life at all. I mean simple things like my hair was NEVER done by me. It was always done by my mother or whoever else was available. Who was going to do it now? How was I going to manage the little things….but who cares it was like ready or not here marriage comes. I had no basic skills to function in life. People barked orders and I followed. Every little thing was controlled in my life. Most part I had to have permission to go to the bathroom so being throw into marriage was to swim without lessons excepted not to drown. 

The next morning came. I was to be married. My parents were there and my brother too. I wasn't allowed to have anyone that I would choose to be there. Who was there was of Davis’ choosing mostly board members and their families. At least those that had not left already. That day I was nervous for the unknown. Donny or I knew hardly knew each other. I was a child lacking so much knowledge and led to believe a lot of things that weren't true. I was filled with emotional baggage. This is what Donny got handed with, "Congratulations on your marriage that you have no notice of and have no knowledge of the person you are marrying". Now there may be some details I am have forgotten to put in and some of the details only he would know but here is what led to me being married at 16 years old just a few months shy of my 17th birthday.

Wednesday, February 12, 2014

"This Is I" - Lisa's True Story About Barbara Norton Warwick's House of Horrors

Barbaric Barbara Norton-Warwick Accused of Torturing and Beating Her Children
 Barbaric Barbara
 Norton-Warwick
 Is She A Whited
 Sepulchre of Sin?
In the NTCC cult indoctrination school, sometimes called a bible school, sometimes a bible college, and now called a seminary, the students sometimes were given an assignment to write a paper called "This Is I".  Oddly, the paper was supposed to be all about that person's past life before coming to Christ for salvation.  When I attended the NTCC cult indoctrination school, I heard of this assignment and contemplated it.  Why would rodger wilson davis force students to re-live and reveal a past life when, from the pulpit and lectern, davis would teach the opposite - never discuss anything that was "under the blood" [ things that the blood of Christ had not simply covered, but removed and purged, God Himself casting those things as far as the east is from the west, and no longer to be remembered].  Why would davis contradict himself and God?  As I considered these things I made a decision.  I knew if davis assigned this paper while I attended his school of rules, I would not complete it as davis wanted - with my past life spelled out on paper for him to do who knows what with...  I felt very strongly about this.  I was determined:  If davis assigns this paper I will complete it thus:

This Is I - by Ange

Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a newcreature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.  2 Corinthians 5:17
Now, I tend to think ahead.  So I knew this paper would not be well received by the dirt-digger, davis.  But I was set in my course.  As it happened, the paper wasn't assigned while I was there.

Now we have the testimony of a woman whose allegations should land several people in the place they belong - prison for child abuse, neglect, assault, and attempted murder.  davis too should be incarcerated; because he knew of abuse allegations, and failed to report it.  That alone makes me believe the allegations against him of being an abuser himself. Note there are multiple victims making these reports of abuse against davis and barbara norton warwick.  There are more voices too, who so far have remained silent.  But they are witnesses just the same.

Here is a list of comments left on previous posts. We have embedded them into this blog post and made their font color yellow.  Some of the comments are from other folks, but most of the comments in this post are by Lisa, and detail her living hell being raised in the NTCC by barbara norton (now warwick).  We have taken the cue from Lisa and titled this post "This Is I" - Lisa's True Story About Barbara Norton Warwick's House of Horrors.

Barbara Norton Warwick - She may look innocent here. But the below tell a very different story of terror.
Barbara Norton Warwick
She may look innocent here.
But the comments below tell
A very different story of terror.

Lisa said...

I. Want to say its good to chat wig you guys without getting permission. First of all I was raised in the church for 15 years it was horrible .. I was raped by Jhonny He was one offs is boy he was married to my sister Pam. He would always grab my butt I used to stay home from church because I was so sick all the time.. He would wait til my dad would be outside he would put his hand over my mouth and he would play with my virginia.. He did rape me I was a virgin I got pregnant by him thank God I lost the baby.. I told my sister she told Davis he said to her he was so sick of these girls lying on his boys moved Jhonny to Seattle Davis turned my family away from me I had no one I started drinking at 15. Prayed every. Ight for me to die. It was not until Jhonny was arrested recently for child abuse. That now my sister knows the truth.. Nobody understood me I became. Very sexually active because I did not care about my body. Davis always wanted to make excuses to spank me mash ire did spank me I could swear he looked up my dress the way he bent me over. I have blocked so much out because of the pain.. I am remembering he put his hand in my underwear and was rubbing me .... I can't believe this came back to me.... I think of all people that where aloud to spank me. This one lady watch me and pull my dress up and spanked me with a orange race car track that was plastic I remember It hurt to sit down there was whelks on my butt I would cry to sit down my mom said I was crying and deserved everything I got... There is so much I have to share with you group.. Them men are nasty old men I apologize if I misspelled some words my eyes are real bad now that. Is another story about my health



The Johnny Jordan Story ] said...
For those who don't know, the Johnny that Lisa is referring to is Johnny Jordan. Click the [blue] link above that cross references the Johnny Jordan story.

Allegedly, Johnny Dean Jordan Raped Lisa Getting Her Pregnant.  But Nobody Called The Police!
 Johnny Dean Jordan Raped Lisa Norton, she
 alleges, getting her pregnant at 15; but nobody
 called the police to report this crime!


Julie said...
Lisa said....First of all I was raised in the church for 15 years it was horrible.

It truly isn't your fault. I am glad that you are finding the courage to speak out. You are an amazing woman. You are special in God's eyes and don't ever forget it.

Thank you for not making me stand out here alone. It gives me the strength to keep telling what I know about the secrets in NTCC. People need the truth. I hope and pray more will see us standing up will feel encouraged to step out too. There are people who's hearts grieve for what we have gone through and hate that we suffered greatly.

Hugs,

Julie



Lisa said...
There is a lot more I want to share please forgive me if my thoughts in my head is bringing so back tho the pain.. My mom was no saint God in Heaven knows this is the truth.. My mom was very abusive to us kids shee would get mad at us and rip our clothes off one time she hit me so much I prayed for God to take me and make her stop. I am crying so hard now the pain I feel right now is so deep.. She would go to church and prYeverybody loved her she would come home and get so angry it could be I spilled milk and sit on top of me and she would hit me.. I went to church one time in the summer wearing a sweater she dug her claws in my throat choked me and ripped my clothes off. This one member picked us up from church I was told to tell him or anybody else that wonder why my shoes did not much tell them my brother pushed me out the door no she took my high heel and hit me with it over and over until she broke my shoe.. She would tell me all the time how ugly I was and the first person that ever said they would marry me she would sign the papers to get rid of me. She was horrible I was a whore to her I never had sex. Had no ideal what she was saying at Tahoe locked me in the closet in the dinning room there was mice in there they crawled over me to this day I can't see mice I will freak out I can't sleep.. She would get mad at my brother he was handicapp. She would make him where a dress. If him and I got in fight she would make us hug and kiss each other on the lips......She would call the brothers over they would take a belt to Terry and hit him over and over again.. I hate them for hurting him like thAt. I can't handle this right now I will tell you the rest I promise



Julie said...
Lisa said......There is a lot more I want to share please forgive me if my thoughts in my head is bringing so back tho the pain.. My mom was no saint God in Heaven knows this is the truth

Oh Lisa I totally understand what it means for the thoughts to bring pan to one's head. It makes it hurt beyond hurt it's self.

No you mother was not a saint. I remember being in St. Louis I was about 5 years old. I was sitting waiting for one of my parents to find me for the rule in my family was if I didn't know where one of my parents was then I was to stay sitting until one found me. If I didn't do this I got a beating from my mother which then followed with a beating from my father it was just how it worked. Your mother saw me sitting there told me to come with her. I tried to explain the rule I had to follow. She got very mad and grabbed me by my ponytail and pulled me until she found my mother. No one around even tried to stop what she did.

She found my mother and said here is your daughter she was hiding in the other room from you.

I tried to explain to my mother what really happened. I was taken out and my mother took a stick from by the trees and whipped me for not following the rules. Then when I got home and my father was told of my disobedience he then beat me too. I was then given a spoonful of black pepper to eat which always burned my mouth. My parents didn't wash my mouth out with soap it was always a tablespoon NOT a teaspoon of black pepper in the mouth.

Your mother's actions were bad and should have never happened to you or any child, Lisa.

Hugs,

Julie



Julie said...
This one member picked us up from church I was told to tell him or anybody else that wonder why my shoes did not much tell them my brother pushed me out the door no she took my high heel and hit me with it over and over until she broke my shoe.. She would tell me all the time how ugly I was and the first person that ever said they would marry me she would sign the papers to get rid of me......

The fact that your mother would make you go to church with mismatch shoes is so mean.

I know the feeling about being told you are ugly. I use to wonder if I could ever be like the "Ugly Duckling Story" if there was a way to one day become beautiful then I would think I don't think I would ever be that lucky.

Oh the signing papers to the first person that agreed to marry now that sounds all to familiar to me for I lived it.

Lisa said...She was horrible I was a whore to her I never had sex. Had no ideal what she was saying at Tahoe locked me in the closet in the dinning room there was mice in there they crawled over me to this day I can't see mice I will freak out I can't sleep..

Lisa just because you didn't understand her words did not give her a right to lock you in a closet no action deserves that reaction. I understand being freaked out by mice with what happened in the past. I have things because of the past still freak me out even to this day.

Hugs,

Julie



Julie said...
Lisa said... She would get mad at my brother he was handicapp. She would make him where a dress.

Lisa this is just horrible. I bet she got the idea from Davis since I have seen him do it to other little boys. There is no reason in the world to do this to a little boy no matter what. Your poor brother.

Hugs,

Julie



Julie said...
Lisa, I can only say that what you went through was horrifying. It makes me sick because these people are living in million dollar mansions like nothing ever happened. They all need to be hauled off to prison. In the name of Christianity these people have done things that are so horrible to you. Your mother should be in prison right now. She was not a mother to you, Terry or Pam. A mother provides, protects and loves her children. I didn't have a father, and my mother smoked pot and hung out with some undesirable people, but she never beat me or neglected me. She provided, protected and loved me in spite of everything. She wasn't a Christian until I was in High school, but in spite of some really bad choices she cared for me.

DNA it is insane that they can live in their mansions like nothing has happened to many innocent victims young and old. What has made it hard for many of us is that it was done in the name of God. I remember being told "God told me I was to have sex with you today." They don't care that those words began to form an evil uncaring picture of God in one's head. It is horrifying beyond horrifying.

Thanks for sharing a little of your childhood it actually helps us victims it really does even though you received love.

When share even the littlest things in their life it helps us feel so alone.

People out there even if your story wasn't of physical abuse; we still need to hear it for it does help even those that were physically abused because your emotional or verbal abuse stories help us to keep spilling our stories.

You may say with what you read I don't know what to say. Your stories of your own experiences are medicine to our soul more than you might realize.

Hugs,

Julie



Photon DD said...
I remember taking Terry and that sunday school group to a park in western St Louis County, so Lisa there are people here who remember you and have compassion on your situation. I remember your mom's hair so long it almost reached her feet! It just seems that the teaching there was to observe outward holiness yet the inside was full of dead mens bones... and their spirits.. emitted harshness and downright cruelty. Back in those days all were so poor, living on the edge... yet pressurized to give more and more... 10% was not giving God anything to them... and they were right... giving NTCC a dime TRULY WAS giving God nothing! (get that?) Because they were unworthy!



Lisa said...
Lets do the this. Is I paper like we did in bible college. So Davis you like to have knowledge that you can use against us so let's chat. Let's talk about this day school you opened wear the teachers where not educated at all what a joke. How you made all of us kiss watch you spank Garry with a belt you would make him turn around you would swing. That belt make turn again swing the belt you hit him 20 times over and over again so you made him to be. A example for us ? Since you want to know everything l let's start off about how you found out I was pregnant you told me If I told anybody you would spank so severe. I would never talk again.... What. About how you would make up reason to spank me but you got delayed the joke was on you ... ''Well I told Mark,I told Lori, and now I am telling the world what you tried to hide I under e rug everybody will know about this... How you whee. The one who gave Jhonny money to leave St.Louis. .... How you tried to sleep with my sister Brenda oh let's not forget PAm she. Was a minor... Let go on about this is I mom what about you Choking me over. And over again Lori know she seen the marks on my back from where you took a rose Busch and kept hitting me over and over. She seen. The bruises you caused all over my body. Davis let's talk about when I was 11 years did old and you and my mom talked. About. Me marrying Jesus Rodregious. You talked in the office but you told Davis I would have. To wait 2 years I was only 11 I was still playing with dolls and roller skating whatever where you thinking.....You made me go on those dates with him he ended up marrying my friend Christina mom Linda. How gross I would spend e night we'll they would laugh at me hey my dad is in there with my mom where he could of been yours gross he was 27



Anonymous said...
Someone needs to start filling out affidavits out or sworn statements now. A crime has been committed.
It is time to take action.



Lisa said...
This is I. Instead of worrying how sick I was you where more worried about what Davis said the doctor told you to take me to a doctor and a ob gym doctor but you would not sign the paper work.. That is great I have had 24 stomach surgery . Let us not forget two years ago you seen me And made me feel so bad you kept telling everybody I was fat you can't get over this. I always so skinned I had Colin cancer and a life vest on my. Heart you know when you kept upsetting me at the monitor would go off its a monitor mom that. If your heart stops. The paddles come out and. Revive your heart. .. The doctors where telling my family I might die. My heart only functions 30 percent. If you. Would have taken me to the doctor I would not be like this but I forget let's go soul winning Or church we can't forget that



Lisa said...
I just want to let you know I lay her. In bed sometimes not able to move because of my. Heart. The pacemaker tries to slow down my heart. Avid defibrillator on my heart as we'll. there. Is no more chances for me it's all in Gods hands right. Now. Let's talk about my eyes you and Davis said let's take her to a blind school so we can get a check on. Her You knew I could see then. But. You whee the one the. Doctor went off on not me. Let me tell you mom I used to be in so much pain. Dad went to the doctor for me and told them it was his back he gave me the pills. Then I took more I never had. To love I was numb



Lisa said...
Legs go on about this is I. When I took sod pills I felt nothing you could hit me all you wanted it did not boer me .the day I looked at you and told you I hated you and run upstairs and locked the door you where taking the screws out I f I could have open that window I would have so jumped out and ran away. How you dragged me down the stairs by my hair like you where some cave women?.. And you kept asking me if I was on something because I couldn't. Cry I was pain pills the more I took the pin went way. Even Scott knew something was wrong because. Of my swings.......



Lisa said...
This is I the daughter you told on a daily basis you wish I was never born. Let's not forget you rage how you would tell. Us kids you would ram your fist down our throats.. This is the girl thAt you punched in the nose where blood was going al over my clothes and had to change clothes for church.. Pam and I are the girls you would. Lock us out in the winter on that porch there was no heat but let us get sick we got a beating for that... You locked us out there was snow on the ground we had no shoes and where in our slips......



Lisa said...
Let's take about how going to church you loved on everybody else's kids but not us... You screamed and yelled on a daily. We cleaned your house like we where slaves. Nothing ever pleased you... How dad would tell you he didn't care you went to church but don't run the gas out how you would get mad and throw a gallon of milk at him.. How you would punch on dad he was a little man and he worked his butt off it was never enough.... Davis. What about the N. Word that you called the black people that is horrible. But you sure where there when our African black brothers where handing out money to you.....i



Anonymous said...
If people did those things to adults, they would be in jail for assault and attempted murder.



Don and Ange said...
Lisa it is hard to comprehend what you went through as a child. You are very courageous for sharing this. Most of us experienced abuse in the ntcc as adults and we have a hard time processing it. Many have come on the blogs and shared life stories of how they gave so much money to the organization and never got anything in return. Grown women were abused by their husbands in the name of God, and out of fear they kept silence for years.

What you went through as a child and during the years when you are supposed to be learning how to succeed in life is tragic and sorrowful. I'm a grown man and it makes me cry when I read what you went through. As a child there is no choice. You were made to believe that all of this horrible stuff that happened to you was your fault. You were blamed and beaten down every time you didn't want to do something that was wrong. By sharing this openly we hope you can realize how wrong they treated you and how that none of this was ever your fault. Both you and Julie are raising awareness of how perverse the ntcc is.

If there ever was a time that folks like you needed to come forward, now is that time. You are literally saving lives. If one person googles ntcc and reads what you have written and decides not to go to this church, you have saved them from ruining their life. For those that have endured similar tragic childhoods as yours, you are letting them know that they are not alone. You are giving them hope and allowing them to realize that they were just children like you trying to grow up and if you can help them stop blaming themselves for what they went through, you are helping them beyond what a counselor could.

One of the big problems with being in a cult is that the cult leaders make people believe that all the bad things that happen to you are your fault because you didn't please them. They make themselves seem like they are God. Instead of realizing that the cult leader is not following God, they are manipulated into thinking that they themselves are being judged by God.

God is not like this at all. He is the opposite of what we all have learned in the ntcc. Anyway, Lisa and Julie, you two are helping so many people to include us. When we see what you've been through and how you are resolved to share the truth about these phony false prophets and perverts, it helps us and gives us more resolve.



Don and Ange said...
I remember people sharing about having to write their "This is I" papers. Ange said that she didn't have to write one, but if she did she would have wrote: "If any man be in Christ, he is a new Creature". I probably would have spilled my guts like everyone else did. God doesn't care about your past, and neither should Davis.

What Davis is going through now at 85 years old is the least of his worries. He's done enough evil for them to haul him off to jail and rot for the rest of his miserable days. If this thing ever goes to court, the judge and jury should turn the bonco, Davis and Kekel's manisions and they entire cult compound into a cult recovery center and allow folks like Julie and Lisa to live in the mansions and in the houses for free. They should make the buildings and sanctuaries into recovery centers with medical facilities and counselors that are experienced in cult recovery. There would be enough money for the victims and their children to never have to struggle for anything again and they deserve that.

But most of all, these sleazy fake preachers have a debt that needs to be paid to society. It would be too good for them to spend the rest of their lives in jail. 



Julie said...
As I read the Michael Fontenot story the other day, it brought back the memory of being in Graham and something he did.

He like to bump into me and touch my breasts .....I was married and so was he....I was told I was just paranoid but he did it many times. I tired to say how he was but no one wanted to listen they I told.

I thought I bet he is having sex with other women and children because he fit the actions of other men in my life.....I said that out loud to my mother one day on the phone and she told me I wasn't too old for Kekel to come over and spank me and give me black pepper. In the leaders' eyes I was a feeble minded child forever.

I have held this in for years; so not surprised at his other actions.

I warned but it fail  on deaf ears.

Hugs,

Julie
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Tuesday, April 30, 2013

New Testament Christian Churches of America, Inc. Winning Friends, Influencing People, And Bartering Teen Brides For Over Four Decades

Barter is a system of exchange by which goods or services are directly exchanged for other goods or services without using a medium of exchange, such as money.[1]  (Source Wikipedia).

Since we started our blog almost three years ago we have heard many horror stories of what it's like to have been part of the ntcc. Many folks regret raising their children in such an environment; and many have shared tragic experiences of how they had to raise their kids in the ntcc. We stumbled across this online review of the ntcc and wanted to share it with our readers.

B. Hawkins says:

September 25, 2012 at 6:34 am

I was raised in NTCC. “I cut my teeth” on the second pew on the right side (women’s side), I played the tamborine every service, I lived on church property until I was 12, and after all these years, I still question this,”religion”. I never knew anything but church. 5 days a week. I watched people being berated over the pulpit under the pretense that they were going to die and go to hell. I watched my family struggle because it was unacceptable for women to work, and we could barely make ends meet. I watched close family members divorce because he was blamed for stealing money from the church for years, but it was really pilfered away by the local pastor and a certain visiting pastor(Denis). I am a witness of the practice of marrying young girls off to older men. My sister and I were both being positioned to men in church. At 15, I was being asked to stay after church for “fellowship” to let the single men know that I was now grown and available. My parents were told to marry my sister and I off to young men at the church, or send us to Bible School, and we would get married there. I bear witness of people being ostracized for “not being right with the Lord”. I know of many instances that pastors were told to “run people away from the church” if questions were ever asked concerning the doctrine and monetary practices of the church. It was not until I went away to college(which was highly discouraged), that I began to distance myself from the church. I learned that there were actually other religions in the world, and that some of them must be going to heaven too! I have no ill will towards the church, although I can no longer accept their doctrine to be true, and I am generally ignored by them when we meet in public.

For years NTCC has trained men and women to groom their innocent little girls to become teen brides for ntcc men who are years older than these innocents.
Bring Your Teen Daughter To
The Meat Market, Oops, I mean
To "Fellowship" So We Can Use
Her To Bribe Some Desperate
Single Brother To Be Our Slave
In Exchange For Your Teen
Daughter Becoming His "Bride".

Meanwhile We Will Also Ensure That
She Remains With Us By Keeping Her
Under-educated And Unemployed.
Plus I Can "Check Her Out" While
She Cleans My Mansion. (Hint Hint)
I May Even Stop By Her Place....
While Her Hubby Does My Job For Me,
I'll Be, Uhm, Shall We Say, Enjoying
Some "Comradely Good Fellowship"
 aka "Fornicating" With The Lass.

Do you think the caption is over the top? Well, we know these very things described have happened over and over again in your ntcc. This review confirms many of the blog posts that we have written and adds to the testimonies of others who have experienced similar circumstances. For every one that musters up the courage to share their testimony there are many others that are kept silent by fear. We hope that this testimony is an encouragement to others who have suffered in a similar way. I kept so much pain inside and was never able to share it with anyone. I was a tortured soul for many years, but when I was able to share my own testimony publicly it released me from the inner prison that held me captive for so many years.

Someone with a key prepares to open a prison cell. Know the truth about God's Word and be set free from the ntcc's false doctrines!
And ye shall know the truth,
and the truth shall make you free.
John 8:32

People look at the blogs and other public forums as filthy gossip tabloids that are run by a few disgruntled eX-members of the ntcc. But the truth is there are hundreds of testimonies that are archived on the blogs, Factnet and online reviews. We are one voice of many. We are not ashamed of our blog or of speaking publicly about what we went through. We have no reason to be afraid of the ntcc leaders whose MO is to use fear to keep people in their place and to keep the money flowing. If you ntcc-ers really love God and want to see the true nature of your so-called 'godly' leaders, try cutting off their money supply and see what really lies in their hearts. Stop paying tithe and start giving like they did in the early church (Acts 4:32-35), when folks shared what they had with their brethren. They sold their possessions and laid the money at the Apostles' feet and what did they do with the money? Did they buy themselves mansions? Did they spend it on themselves? No, they distributed it to their brethren according as they had need. We know we have passed from death unto life because we love the brethren.

What do you think Davis or Kekel would do if one of you ministers got enough intestinal fortitude to start doing what's right with the money you collect from your church members? What if you stopped sending it to Washington and it hindered their ability to heap more wealth upon themselves? Do you think that would go over very well? Or, better yet, if you are a single brother in the military walk up to the prettiest single sister in the church and tell her that you would like to take her out to dinner. If your pastor tries to stop you, ask him what biblical grounds he has to stop you. Tell him to mind his own business and pay more attention to his own wife. Perhaps if ntcc ministers were less involved in everyone else's business they would have fewer divorces and would not cheat on their spouses so much! You know this happens and it all gets brushed under the filthy ntcc carpet.

What hypocrites. They are the first ones to jack you up if you try to be normal and have an ordinary relationship. I know what I'm talking about. I love my wife and it is my pleasure to give her anything that I'm able to give her. I honor her and treat her with love and respect. We were cheated out of twenty years of marriage by a couple of lousy second rate sleazy religious hucksters who are now on the revival circuit pedaling their propaganda and victimizing anyone who will allow it.  Don't be their next victim.  Learn from the truths we share here.  Be yourself.  Allow God to lead you.  Don't be afraid of man.  The bible says the fear of man brings a snare.  We know.  We fell for it and paid in spades.  You don't have to.  Set yourself free by fearing the Lord, not man.

You can call me bitter if you want, I've got nothing but love for you. You can tell us to "move on' or to "get over it"; but we love you too much to sit back and say nothing while a bunch of hypocrites control your lives. Think what you want about us; but we are here to help those who want to be helped. If you are hell-bent on allowing some hireling to tell you whom you can talk to, which relatives you can have in your lives, which people you can have at your house or in your car, whom you can hang out with, whom you can date, whom you can share your life with, what other churches you cannot visit, what people you can fellowship with, well then, we might not be able to help you, but don't begrudge us the opportunity to try. If you need someone to control your life to this extent then what kind of a Christian are you? Is God not able to keep you?  We know He is able.  Will you allow HIM to truly be YOUR Lord, YOUR" Absolute Ruler"?

Knight In Full Armor Kneels Before God, One Hand On His Drawn Sword

The fear of man bringeth a snare: but whoso putteth his trust in the LORD shall be safe.  Prov 29:25

Monday, May 30, 2011

Smorgasborg (note the 'g')

smorgasbord:  From Wiki:

"The Swedish word smörgÃ¥sbord consists of the words smörgÃ¥s (open-faced sandwich) and bord (table). SmörgÃ¥s in turn consists of the words smör (butter) and gÃ¥s (goose). GÃ¥s literally means goose, but later referred to the small pieces of butter that formed and floated to the surface of cream while it was churned.[3] These pieces reminded the old Swedish peasants of fat geese swimming to the surface.  The small butter pieces were just the right size to be placed and flattened out on bread, so smörgÃ¥s came to mean buttered bread.

...guests can help themselves from a range of dishes laid out for their choice. ...  In a restaurant, the term refers to a buffet-style table laid out with many small dishes from which, for a fixed amount of money, one is allowed to choose as many as one wishes."

Well, recently an anonymous commentator on Jeff's blog noted this ntcc trend:  "A minister and his family have a teenage daughter that’s about to graduate or shortly after she graduate’s High School; gawd calls this family back to Graham. Within 6 months the daughter is married off to a minister riding the bench at Graham 10 years older than her and life continues in NTCC."  Anonymous comment from "Daddy, Can I Invite A Girl Out To Play"

We note the similarity of the borg practice to the Swedish meal custom called Smorgasbord:

In like fashion we see the ntcc forcing families back to Washington to lay out a feast of open-faced young girls ready to be goosed and ogled by desperate ministers who have been living a forced life of celibacy due to ntcc rules prohibiting normal dating.  These fellows have lowered their standards to where they now think it is normal or okay, or worse, acceptable or desirable to want to hook up with a young teen, a minor, far younger than they are.  This is what so-called 'sinners' call jail-bait, in reference to the illegal nature of the relationship.  But in ntcc it is full-speed-ahead.  These things ought not to be so.  If the brothers would have freedom to choose whomever they want, in or out of ntcc, they would not be lusting after barely pubescent girlies.  It just isn't normal.  And in America it is illegal.  But in ntcc, the drool is flowing over these young girls, the cream of the crop, while the ministers prepare to flatten them into a life of servitude to the borg's rules.

Yes, for the mere price of asking the 'pastor's' permission, and running the gauntlet of fellowship-hall humiliation, these 'guests', the ministers, can 'help themselves ...to a buffet-style table laid out with many small [young] 'dishes'..."   smorgasbord aka smorgasborg!

Seriously, folks, if you plan on being a minister of holiness, you should not be lusting after little girls.  If you are a minister, you should not need someone else's permission to talk to a woman.  And if you are a minister, you should have enough sense to recognize that these young girls are still children, not dating material.  They are souls to be guarded, not exploited!

NTCC makes their young girls into little dishes; presenting them in a Smorgasborg for the older ministers to ogle, 'date', and 'marry'.  Yech!

Repulsive?  Disturbing?  Inciting?  It is the ntcc that creates, nurtures, and approves of this twisted environment.  The board members' families lead the way in these smorgasborg lopsided relationships.  ntcc is a very unhealthy environment.  The Word says to let all things be done decently and in order.  These relationships are indecent and disorderly.

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