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A safe place for Xers to share their stories and heal.

A place to learn what it's really like in the ntcc founded by Rodger Wilson Davis;
and run by his son-in-law, Michael Craig Kekel,
the father of the one vasectomy-rule-exception kid in ntcc, Grant Davison Kekel.

Ezekiel 12:11

Say, I 'am' your sign: like as I have done, so shall it be done unto them: they shall remove 'and' go into captivity.

He Loves A House More Than God: Bonco Mansions of kekel (l) and davis (r)

He Loves A House More Than God:  Bonco Mansions of kekel (l) and davis (r)
"He loves a house more than God:" *Bonco* Mansions of kekel (l) and davis (r). Meanwhile, on the mission field: ntcc Missionaries to the Philippines "Rev. and Sis. Mackert ... found a place, 9 feet by 14 feet [9'x14'] and one bathroom. It is on the 6th floor and there is no elevator. The last place they had stayed, they had to share a common bathroom with the other tenants! Yikes! This place has their very own private bathroom, although the Rev. shared there is no seat on the throne, and no way to attach one…." from The Devonshire Files Sunday, May 28, 2006 Visit from the Mackerts (5/06). ** Should you know where the money ($$$$$) goes? **

Jesus In The Temple

Matt 21:12 And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves, Matt 21:13 And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.
Gal. 4:16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth? John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. 1 John 4:6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Skip To Blue Letter Bible Search Tool

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Friday, January 23, 2015

"This is i" - Bro-Ken Survives Rape at the NTCC Servicemen's Home and Seminary St. Louis formerly NTCG Midwestern Bible Institute

Today we received an e-mail from a Former licensed and Ordained minister of 30 years, who was forwarding the story of Bro. Ken who was a friend of this minister back in the early 80's.  Whether you pronounce that Brother Ken or BroKen, both are correct. Ken MacPherson endured rape and assault at the hands of three individuals listed by name. He was further traumatized and demonized by the very individuals who should have helped him, namely, James Ross Ashmore and Rodger Wilson Davis.  Bro-Ken feels all this was the result of a psychology paper assigned in the NTCC which, during the nineties, was called the "This Is I" paper.  In it the students were supposed to list their sins and life before coming to Christ for salvation. I never understood why a Christian would demand that from another Christian.  The blood of Christ cleanses us from all sin; and God removes our transgressions as far as the East is from the West; He casts all our sins into the depths of the sea. 1 John 1:7 Psalm 103:12 Micah 7:19 here

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It is our opinion that Davis and other NTCC members exploited this information from these papers to harm folks.  Here, in his own words, and with his permission is Bro-Ken's story.  He wants people to know that his psychology paper was used to target him.

This is a hard thing for me to do and say but twice by 1982 I got raped in NTCC one at the service men's home while out soul winning and the other in the dorm on Eiller St, Davis kept telling me it was my fault, I deserved it, He told me the homosexuals are coming after me because I was living in sin.
 and   the the reason he moved me from Forest Ave, to Eiller St. I met Susan she was local neighbor around the church  and in 81 we had a son David, Davis knew this from the psychology paper  we wrote about our self's. He would not let her join the church Davis told me in the office he wanted me to go to Tacoma and Leave St. Louis behind but I could not have anything thing more to do with Susan, I said no He then said I guess I will tell every one you left because you wanted to be a Homosexual I said  whatever, I then said to him even though you know it is not the truth, he told me I made the decision not him, and then said that he could not have all the brothers finding local whores to sleep with.
In my heart I blame myself for so much   you have no idea. I let an un Godly man try and destroy me. make me believe that I was something I was not, and then only to find out from the blogs that my attacker got to rape one of the sisters it hurts so bad inside, I know its my fault, Davis did nothing to stop it.

Rape survivors feel shame and guilt for things that are NOT THEIR FAULT.  NTCC Rapists blame the victims and assassinate their characters by telling lies about them from the pulpit.
Rape survivors feel shame and guilt for things that are NOT THEIR FAULT. NTCC Rapists blame the victims and assassinate their characters by telling lies about them from the pulpit after kicking them out.

 Susan left my son and I in 86,Because I went back to NTCC, If I was such a homosexual, and as you know they can't be saved then why did he let me come back? because he knew the truth, It was never about homosexual, it was always about  Susan, and by the end of 87 I left for good because Ashmore and I could not get along,
 I called him, Ashmore, a pervert and that he was protecting them, and unless you have been raped or molested, Julie St. Claire is spot on when it comes to the perverts, you don't have to be touched yet, you know you just know something is going to happen just the way they look at you or touch you. And for Lisa I wish Davis had put Johnny out, the way he did me, or we had the laws back then like we have now, I just wish I could have done some thing.I have so much more pain and guilt after reading Don and Anges blog, hear your story and Anges call of trumpet, 

The NTCC abused the papers titled "THIS IS I" to target people for rape and abuse.  But it was not the victims' fault. The NTCC and its top leaders are to blame for this system of rape and abuse.
Ange says, I want to apologize to any rape and abuse survivors that I have hurt by calling them to report rape or abuse in order to prevent future victims.  Those things are not your fault.  The blame for rape lies with the rapist. The blame for abuse lies with the abuser. I apologize to anyone I have hurt by calling them to action to prevent future victims. The fact is rapists cause rapes.

but at Holly Hills there were those brothers that treated me great, I may not have been as receptive to them as I should have and for that I'm sorry, but when you go through certain things, you  have a certain amount of disconnect with people, and then there it is the people you know you are going to have a problem,
Mr.. Peters was one of them not only did he make advances and Ashmore did nothing about it but to blame me Mr. Peters started to write me letters asking for sex and again Ashmore kicked me out of the office its my fault, that's what I get for coming back,
why does it have to be the victims fault, we already live a life of shame and guilt that can never go away. 

Support Male Survivors of Abuse. They look strong, but inside may be BroKen. Survivors: Know that you are not alone. There are people who care about you and about what happened to you. It was not your fault.
Support Male Survivors of Abuse. They look strong, but inside may be broken. Survivors: Know that you are not alone. There are people who care about you and about what happened.  It was not your fault.  Like this photo shows on its right edge, Trauma And Dissociation, it is normal for a person who has suffered trauma to feel separated or disconnected.  That is normal and in time the survivor can heal and reconnect with those who have proven trustworthy. Give yourself time to heal and do what works for you. Take time in your healing and grieving process. You deserve love and to be happy.

 and then there was
NTCC Founding Board Member James Ross Ashmore kicked out the victim of rape even though Davis knew the Brother was not lying about being assaulted and raped.  In our opinion Ashmore is cruel.  He should be called SmAshMore!
 NTCC Founding Board
 Member James Ross
 "Ashmore called me
 a liar he told me to
 get out get out get out
 I wish you would just leave,
 so I did, right out the door.
 Davis told [Ashmore] I don't
 believe you [Ashmore]. Bro.
 Macpherson has never lied
 to me [Davis.] why now[?]"
 *Quote marks and bracketed
 [-] material added for clarity.*
Mr.. Batson it was a church night he made sex advances on me, it happened so fast I did not see that one coming, but he took it to a dark Place he told me he was leading people to Hell, I was in shock, I said to him you go after people for sex, and the what?
 he said I ask them about God once and if they say no, If Hell is what they want then I will lead them to the deepest part of it.   knowing this was going to be hard to believe, I went to Ashmores  office told him what happened, he called me a liar he told me to get out get out get out I wish you would just leave, so I did, right out the door.
then I heard brother Macpherson you don't go to church don't come back it was Davis he asked me what was going on I told him, we went in to the office he asked Ashmore he denied it, Davis said, so he did not tell you Batson was leading people to Hell Ashmore said no sir, Davis told him I don't believe you, Bro. Macpherson has never lied to me why now, Ashmore I don't know  sir. he told me go up stairs I don't need to hear this, Davis ask someone to bring Batson down, and that night Batson was put out of the church, for those of you who were wonder why he was put out. then I left in the January 88. some NTCC people will want to lie But you know he kicked Batson out.
(foot note) later on I ask Batson one time  why me,   He said because it was said of me I left in 83 because I wanted be gay. All because
one man tells a lie, and goes out of his way to make people believe  in that lie. But for the grace of God the many times I went to kill my self
and God had some one there to save me from trying to throw my self in front of the metro link train to hanging my self.     
In defense of Johnny he was one of my best friends I had, I still have a pen holder he made for me from his machine shop job he had.
we were both 5/7 and 150 pounds, but that night he was on drugs, and at the Eiller St. dorm Jonny, Dorsie, and Wells slept upstairs and I slept in the basement.  that night he wanted hang out with me while I typed my notes,  because he said he had taken something and did  not want the brothers see him acting weird, now please don't any body fool themselves, Johnny was not the only one popping pills, I got operated on twice and brothers would come to me for pain pills, but that night I don't know what he took, because on any other day I could throw him down not that night. at light out time everyone went to their  beds and he came back assaulted me.
two things I regret the most is the lose of fellowship of some great brothers and sisters some whose names I can not now remember
nor locate, and that they never knew my real story, Mark dally does know about my assault in the service men's home, because of some strokes
the other is my son David he feels he had a hard life from the time he was 10 until he left my home to be the man he is to day,
I never let him out of my sight, and had to always know the who the what the were the why  and when he would always say Dad you're the only Dad in America that acts that way, and I would always say I'm the only Dad in America that is your Father and I do it because I love you
and in the mid 2000s I did became a minister and my son and grandchildren were there I gave the church my whole testimony and I mean
everything the rapes the molestation, agreeing with Davis about the Homosexuality, NTCC, because I wanted all out in the open so nothing
could come back on me and when I got done my son and grandchildren came running up to me at the pulpit told the church this is my Dad and I love him, and at that moment in time nothing else mattered, as my son whispered in my ear if I had only known, thank you for protecting me the way you did. and the church said we love you to brother will you take the job, no secret ballet need and I said yes,
today I have step-down because of health reasons,   but  I do write Words of Encouragement for the church each week
Now you know my story because of the strokes, I did not know how to get on the blogs like Don and Ange, and I know there are people out there hate me because Davis and Ashmore tell them to and even after knowing the truth some will still not want to believe and that's ok because they will do whatever NTCC tells them to do.
But people need to know that are in NTCC when you write those psychology papers for them you just put a target on your back, Kekel and the rest of those  perverts are going to use them to choose their victims, because by those papers tell them what type of person you are and can they get away with rapping or molesting you or your children, and then their mind games begin they did nothing and you made it up.   

Rapists blame their victims, using mind games or saying that the victim made up the story.  NTCC is no different than all the other rapists But ALL RAPES ARE THE FAULT OF THE RAPIST!
 Allegedly:  NTCC used the Psychology Papers  Titled
 "This Is i" to gain intimate facts about  people.
 Then the NTCC used that knowledge to  target
 those people or their kids for rape and  abuse.
 Then the NTCC blamed and ostracized the  victims.
 It's our opinion that the NTCC is wicked! 
To Clarify whose who, Ken added the following paragraph:

Dave Peters was part of Rev Jones church on Forest Ave, and went over to Holly Hills also, Harold Batson had been a student at Holly Hills under Ashmore, but Left school for some reason, he told me when he left   Ashmore liked him so he never put him out of the church, I found that to be strange and he also got to go to Forest Ave.  Which I thought was strange also how they both got to go to both churches, I could not figure that one out why.
In 86 at a low point in my life I went to Forest Ave it was late at night I was making one last plea with God before I was going to end my life, some one had called Rev. Jones a guy was on the property it was me, he came down  we talked for a while and then he asked me
to come to church, Susan would not because she was rejected before, so why now she said.  a few months later he wanted me to go back to the school, but it had to be under Ashmore, both Peters and Batson never put there hands on me until I went to Holly Hills, so for sure I know Batson was a student at one time but not sure a bout Peters, but this one thing he kept them around for some reason.

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A)  Sounds True.
B)  Sounds Cultish.
C)  I Read It.
D)  I was forced to have sex when I was only a child.
E)  I too was raped.
F)  I'm afraid to get caught commenting on this blog.
G)  Glad To Be Out of ntcc.
H)  I told ntcc church leaders but got no help.
I)   I'm Thinking Of Leaving ntcc.
J)   I am a woman.
K)  I am a man.
L)  In my opinion Ashmore is a creep.


Wednesday, January 26, 2011

The Celibacy Policy or "Forbidding To Marry"

Part 2:  The Celibacy Policy or "Forbidding To Marry"

Part 1:  My Life And Times With ntcc:  or "Why I Left The ntcc"

Part 3:  Homosexual 'Pastors' In The ntcc; Names Included

Part 4:  Nichelle Tieman's Adultery and Lying:  NOT_Overseer Material

During our years as members of the cult called ntcc, there were many doctrines preached and rules enforced that we went along with out of fear and misunderstanding. Now years later we find that many of the teachings of the ntcc rules are not backed by scripture; but we and many others followed and obeyed these teachings out of fear and misguided zeal for what we thought was "the only true doctrine in the land".

The leaders, pastors, and board members would subtly introduce these rules [now claimed to be 'policies']  at times while preaching salvation; and other times they would boldly preach these rules as scripture, with reckless abandon, not concerned with whom they hurt, or whom they ran off. There is a sickness in the ntcc and among its leadership that compels them to preach Christ crucified and get people genuinely saved and hungering for God; only so that they can indoctrinate them with control policies; and shape them into what best suits ntcc purposes. The #1 goal of r w davis is to convert servants of Christ into servants of RWD. The biggest mistake that we as Christians made in the ntcc is thinking that because we were saved while attending the ntcc, that the ntcc had to be right in their doctrine and 'policies'. "If God saved me here, how could they possibly be wrong?" What makes this so perverse is that it's all done because of money.

Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 2 Tim 2:15
The #1 goal of r w davis is to convert servants of Christ into servants of RWD.
We are going to compare ntcc's rules, [now called 'policies' and enforced with dire consequences visited on those who don't obey the rules] with the scripture and "rightly divide the word of truth". We also are going to ask for the millionth time if these rules were right all along why are they now being changed and renamed as 'policies'? Is God still the same? Did the Holy Ghost lie to r w davis when he preached these things to us?
The celibacy policy is where the ntcc forbids marriage.
It is the ntcc's doctrine of matchmaking and forcing members to live in celibacy.
We are not advocating fornication or adultery or child molestation like the ntcc does!

Forced Celibacy or Forbidding to Marry by Forbidding Dating Thru Match-Making Rules:
The first policy rule that we are going to look at is the celibacy policy rule where the ntcc forbids marriage. Let's see if we can find some scriptures that support the ntcc's doctrine of matchmaking and forcing members to live in celibacy.

First of all, we are not advocating fornication or adultery or child molestation as is advocated by the ntcc. michael c kekel has never come out and denied his child molestation of tanya davis when she was a young teen [minor/jailbait] and he was in his early twenties [adult/pedophile].  Therefore we believe the witness of Vic Johanson in previous posts on Jeff's blog and this blog. Vic has no reason to lie and MCK has every reason in the world to cover it up.

Here's what the scripture says; now lets honestly try to rightly divide the word of truth as we read:
Now lets honestly try to RIGHTLY divide the word of truth as we read what the scripture says; and, please, no 'private interpretations' or 'secret revelations'...
"Nevertheless, [to avoid] fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband." 1 Cor 7:2
"For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that."
"I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I."
"But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn." 1 Cor 7:7-9
"Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;"
"Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;"
"Forbidding to marry, [and commanding] to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth." 1 Tim 4:1-3
We can find no supporting scripture that justifies what the ntcc has done to many of its members... forbidding single men from talking to single women ... forbidding them to date and thus forbidding them to marry.  That contradicts God's word!
These are just a few scriptures that we have taken five minutes to look up. Rightly dividing these words of truth, we can find no supporting scripture that justifies what the ntcc has done to many of its members. We welcome anyone from the ntcc that can find a scripture without twisting it, that supports their practice of forbidding single men from talking to single women, or forbidding them to date, thereby forbidding them to marry. Please:  no 'private interpretations' or 'secret revelations'.


Let The Dead Bury Their Dead:
While my mother was terminally ill, various ntcc leaders put pressure on me to stay in their works so they would have one faithful tithe payer bringing in more income to their works... They used God as an excuse when they told me that "They had prayed; and God wanted me to help them."
They had no consideration for me or my mother; but instead ntcc's stance was, "Let the dead bury their dead."
In 1989, I was stationed in Camp Humphreys, Korea, and helped Rev. L. C. Barnes start a church. In one short year we had about 30 members; and as Rev. Barnes was getting ready to PCS, ntcc sent Tom and Rachel Wright over to run this servicemen's home. We had about 4 people (including myself) that moved into the home and a handful of tithe payers attending church regularly. I had invited many of the members out to church and was very involved and invested in the work.

In October, I went on leave to attend a conference in the States. While on leave, I visited my parents and found out that my mother had cancer. She asked me if I could stay home with her and help. At first I said no; because I felt that God wanted me in Korea; but only because I was so brainwashed at the time, that I believed the constantly repeated ntcc mantra "let the dead bury their dead" doctrine.

Althouth that is part of the scripture, the ntcc twisted or wrested that scripture.  It was often used by the ntcc to separate people from their families and loved ones just to keep the tithes coming into ntcc coffers.

Mystical Manipulation:  "We Prayed About It.  God Wants You Here."

While at home in Denver, I was attending ntcc services in Colorado Springs and commuting 140 miles round trip just about every day.

  1. The Tiemans were in Colorado Springs; and they told me that they had prayed; and God wanted me to help them.
  2. I would talk to the Wrights on the phone; and they felt that God wanted me there; and that the home in Korea depended on me. 

Is God double-minded?  No.  Clearly both the Tiemans and the Wrights were using mystical manipulation on me, claiming they had the 'mind of God'.  Rubbish.  They were just using me.

Finally, David Tieman (Sr.) called r. w. davis and told him that the Wrights were pressuring me to go back to Korea; and the Tiemans wanted me to put in for a compassionate reassignment in Colorado. RWD told Tieman to have me "Pray about it." and do what God wanted me to do.  That was davis' way of washing his hands of everyone's attempt to mystically manipulate me into staying with them and paying their bills while blaming God, saying, "We prayed about it; God wants you here."

I eventually made the decision to stay in Colorado Springs; and the Army attached me to Fitzsimons Army Medical Center in Denver, pending compassionate reassignment.  Although this was the easy thing to do at the time, it was a sacrifice; because I really wanted to return to Korea and help the work I had started with Rev. Barnes; but after much pressure from all around, I decided to stay in Colorado.

Sexual Temptation Worsened by the Celibacy Rule Forbidding To Marry:

During this time, Nichelle Tieman began to make sexual advances toward me while David Tieman (Sr.) was locked up in his room, "studying God's word". If ntcc did not have their twisted rule forbidding to marry, I would probably have already been married and living in my own home with my own wife.  But ntcc's celibacy rule had already struck major blows against my attempts to seek a normal marital relationship.

Prior to this, I had been denied by two (2) previous pastor's the "privilege of talking to" two other sisters; simply because they were earmarked for bible school! I was 25 years old and the whole celibacy policy rule was not working for me. I did not have the gift of celibacy that the Apostle Paul was speaking of in I Corinthians, chapter 7.

ntcc's celibacy rule is a direct violation of God's word found here:

1 Cr 7:2  Nevertheless, [to avoid] fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

If ntcc did not contradict God's Word and have this twisted doctrine, I would have had my own wife and place to stay; I never would have been around for such temptations.  Instead, I was forced to live in celibacy, in a servicemen's home, where the apparently unfulfilled or insatiable 'pastor's wife' would make constant advances towards me.

Nichelle Tieman would rub up against me inappropriately with her breasts and rear end when nobody was around. I almost committed adultery with her but was convicted after inappropriately touching her one evening. After that night, I started rejecting her sexual advances. One morning she came down to my room in the home and knocked on my door. She said that her husband was at work; and she "wanted to lay with me". I rejected that advance and many others.  I also remember her telling me that she loved another brother; he was a worker named Rev. Rice.  She said she would marry him if anything ever happened to her husband David Tieman (Sr.).

Shortly after this, I had invited Ange to church. We were young, the same age, single, Christians and really attracted to each other. She "got right in" and started paying tithe and giving home offerings, even though she didn't live in the home. By ntcc standards that meant she was "really saved" or a Christian. I really believed God was blessing me and her, and that we'd be married and spend the rest of our happy lives together.  But that didn't happen, thanks to the ntcc's celibacy rule and nichelle tieman's lying.

Meanwhile, in Colorado, I commuted back and forth from Denver, where my mother was dying, to Colorado Springs, where the servicemen's home was located.  I did this for about 6 months, many times without missing any ntcc services, soul winning, prayer meetings, or events.   My Mom, who was already saved, had attended church service at ntcc one night, when james ross  ashmore was preaching.  She said that she had never in her life met anyone as cold as he was.   She came to church a few times; and my younger brother also came out to some services.

My mother died in 1990. When I got the call about my Mom, I was in the Tieman's living room. I told the Tieman's that my mom had went home to be with the Lord.

Nichelle Tieman said, "Your mother wasn't saved; if she was, she would have attended our services regularly and adhered to our holiness standards."
Nichelle might as well have hit me in the head with a club! I was shocked and furious inside!

I remembered back to when I was 8 years old; I used to roll joints for my mom. I remembered when she used to drink and bring home strange men. I also remembered when my Mom started going to an Assembly of God Church and got saved and stopped drinking and drugs and had Christ in her life. She was certainly saved by the grace of God and had the fruits of the Holy Spirit in her life!


Around this time, I called Pop Gaylord and told him what Nichelle was doing and confessed my role in it. He relayed the info to r. w. davis; within a week rdub came through to assess the situation. He decided to remove the Tieman's from the work in Colorado Springs and sent them to Portland, Oregon.

While he was there, Nichelle told davis that Ange felt like she was 'called' to go to Bible School; which was an outright lie. At this time Ange and I were talking about marriage. From this point on Ange felt pressured to go to bs and eventually went.

This 'little lie' that Nichelle told would ruin two marriages for Ange. One that should have happened; and one that never should have happened. This would also trigger 7 more years of celibacy in my life and an eventual decision to leave not only the ntcc, but also God.

I often asked myself what I had done to deserve this treatment. After making one of the biggest decisions of my life to stay, help, and support this cult called the New Testament Christian Church in Colorado Springs, they caused this miscarriage of justice! I was giving more than 10% tithe, offerings, home offerings, building fund pledges, world missions pledges, attending all services and functions, rejecting sexual advances by Nichelle Tieman, bringing dozens of people to church every month, commuting thousands of miles to help my terminally ill mother; and I loved God and the Tiemans in spite of what they had done and what was going on. But this was my 'reward'?   I wish I could say that this was an isolated instance; but it is not.

The ntcc often referred to itself as "the last hope for a lost and dying world". But instead of bringing hope, they were crushing it. Instead of saving the lost, they were driving Christians away from God.

These blogs are full of stories of cruel injustices committed by the ntcc, of lives that have been devastated, of families that have been torn apart, and of people that ntcc has used up, rejected, and sent back out into 'the world' to start their lives over with nothing.  All their finances have gone to the ntcc.  All their family ties have been broken from those who don't attend ntcc.  They have no careers or pensions or insurance or future.  They have to start life over, from scratch, with no support system.  Even their life-long ntcc friends and family will forsake them, treating them as if leaving ntcc equals leaving God.  The borg treats them as reprobates.  It's sad and so needless.


We write these things not because of hatred or revenge, but to warn people, and to let others know that they are not alone in their suffering, and, if possible, to trigger repentance.

These are not lies, but rather facts; that can be verified by two or more witnesses; and, above all, God knows all about it. The same ones that call us reprobates are the ones that have abused their salvation - if they ever had it - and will have to answer for it. We will continue to be a voice of truth that tells you the true story - a different story than that which the ntcc has to share.

We implore everyone that is involved with this cult to take a closer look and escape with what's left of your life. If you are thinking about attending, do your homework first.
  • Study cults and their tactics.
  • Learn about mind control.
  • See how cult leaders use it to control every aspect of your life.
  • Study the bible.
  • See if you can find examples of Jesus or his followers destroying peoples' lives with unbiblical policies such as the celibacy policy of forbidding to marry.
  • Use the ntcc's own standards to decide if they are a 'bible believing church' that follows Jesus' examples of love and temperance. 

But if you find they act like a cult, well... "If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and waddles like a duck, it's probably a duck!"  SO....

If it looks like a cult, talks like a cult, and changes rules like a cult, it's probably a cult!

Related Posts:

Don's Story [Click Link To See All His Posts In A Mobile View]

Part 2:  The Celibacy Policy:  or "Forbidding To Marry"

Part 1:  My Life and Times In The ntcc:  "Why I Left The ntcc"

Part 3:  Homosexual 'Pastors' In The ntcc: Names Included

Part 4:  Nichelle Tieman's Adultery and Lying:  NOT_Overseer Material


Coming Up: The ntcc Adultery or Divorce on Demand Policy:


Crossing The Line:  Part 1 of Adultery On Demand

Spouse Swapping:   Part 2 of Divorce On Demand 


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A) Sounds Like A True Description Of The ntcc.
B) ntcc Sounds Like A Cult.
C) I Read This Post.
D) ntcc encourages sexual impropriety by forbidding marriages, tempting people to sin since they are not "allowed" by ntcc leaders to get married or even date or talk to other single people.
E) ntcc often requires members to do things that have no biblical basis, like forbidding single people from talking to each other.
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"F" I'm afraid to be caught commenting on this blog.
G) Glad To Be Out of ntcc.
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"H" ntcc manipulates who marries whom by controlling who is "allowed" to talk with whom. As a result, ntcc controls who does and does not get married.
I) I'm Thinking Of Leaving ntcc
J) Create Your Own By Leaving A Comment: Example:
"J" ntcc has ruined my chances of marrying and dating someone I liked just because ntcc has weird man-made rules.
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