Should We Be Afraid?

 Super Piety 
 In the ntcc holiness is a badge of honor. 
 "LOOK WHAT MAKES US DIFFERENT FROM THOSE WICKED SINNERS".

One primary focus of the ntcc is to instill fear into the hearts of its members.  It's been shared by the ntcc that Jesus preached more about hell than he did about heaven.  There are, after all, only two choices in life that matter:  Heaven or Hell.  As X-ers we all share a certain amount of fear because of the fact that we once were members of a cult that used fear to keep us in our places for as long as possible.  Fear kept me in my place for thirteen years while I was in the ntcc and also fear controlled my life for fourteen years after leaving the ntcc.  A few months ago I was released from all that fear when God revealed to me that His plan of salvation has nothing to do with attending a cult or being super spiritual by living in accordance with the rules of the so called "Man of God" the most of which can not be explained reasonably by the bible.

In the ntcc we were very legalistic.  This is a word that I once thought was used only by God haters and reprobates but have since seen the true meaning behind the word.  The Wikipedia definition below accurately describes legalism that is practiced by cults and becomes destructive to all that subscribe to it.

Legalism, in Christian theology, is a sometimes-pejorative term referring to an over-emphasis on discipline of conduct, or legal ideas, usually implying an allegation of misguided rigour, pride, superficiality, the neglect of mercy, and ignorance of the grace of God or emphasizing the letter of law over the spirit.  Legalism is alleged against any view that obedience to law, not faith in God's grace, is the pre-eminent principle of redemption. Its opposite is antinomianism, which is the alleged view that believing in Jesus Christ is the only requirement for receiving eternal life.


While in the ntcc all of the sins and standards were emphasized much more than the Grace of God.  People were kept in their places by the warnings of hell rather than being allowed to grow in God's grace and to serve God out of love.  While Jesus did speak about hell it was mostly to the pharisees and hypocrites.  To sinner's, his followers and his disciples, Jesus spake less about specific sins or hell and condemnation then he did to the hypocrites.  Why are there very few if any references to Jesus preaching "holiness or hell" to his followers?  I would have to say that holiness is not a prerequisite to being saved.  In the ntcc holiness is a badge of honor.  "LOOK WHAT MAKES US DIFFERENT FROM THOSE WICKED SINNERS".  In all of the apostles' teachings and admonishments we never hear hell used as an alternative for those who don't follow their man-made policies.  There are lots of teachings concerning holiness but never is there a threat that comes along with those teachings that you will go to hell for all eternity if you do not live by these teachings.  In the ntcc we have "super apostles that know much more than the bible teaches and have added policies and new sins to the bible:


If you date someone you love without the approval of the super spiritual orator of the church you are living in sin.  While in the past we have seen fondling and child molestation take place in the highest places in the ntcc, is this really God?


Facial hair on a man is wrong for what reason or reasons?  I must be very rebellious because I purposely grow facial hair.


You are not capable of deciding who your own friends should be and who you can have over to your house because that is a decision that only a super apostle can make for you.  If you are so flaky that you need someone to decide this for you, than you might just belong to a cult.


If you love God, you will do things for the pastor of your church, like clean his house, shine his shoes, wash his car, mow his lawn, etc.  I submit to you that if your pastor loves you, he will be a servant of all and do those things for you.  


Each church will extract as much money as possible out of its members' wallets and pocket books because large amounts of money are required to support the lavish lifestyles of the super god-like apostles in Graham that live in an entirely different world than all of their loyal subjects.


When there is no biblical justification for the rules or consequences that are preached in the ntcc they resort to the "end all, know all" scripture that is constantly being referred to over and over in the ntcc:  


Hebrews 13:17 "Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your soul, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you."  I've seen this used to their advantage more than for the good of the church member.  What a great chapter to read and to take in context.  I will never advocate that you should disobey your pastor if he is leading you in the truth; but if the dude is making up his own rules and threatening you with hell as a consequence of disobeying him, you might just be in a cult and would be served well by getting yourself and your friends and anyone who will listen to you out of there quickly.  


Should we be afraid of these people and the doctrine they tried to ram down our throats?  I would say absolutely not.  We believe that they should be scared.  There are many X-members of the ntcc that are so afraid to speak out against them; and I can understand that.  But I will say this to those souls that are afraid.  Do you think that they care for you?  If you came back to them, do you think it would be a prodigal son moment?  I know when I came back to God it was, but I would not even want to think about what it would have been like if I would have attempted to return to an ntcc church.  Let's look at them for what they are.  If they are right, than we need to take quite a few scriptures out of the bible and throw them away.   If they are wrong, then we need to realize that and stop being afraid of them.  


I am not advocating that informing current members of the ntcc that they are in a cult is going to help them.  It wouldn't have helped me.  But I do think that standing up for what we believe in and not being afraid to disagree with the false teachings of the ntcc is a step in the right direction.  If we live in fear of the ntcc, it will not help anyone but them.  They want us to live in fear.  They don't want us to post things that bring attention to their corruption and would love nothing more than for us to go away.  We will bring attention to their evil ways over and over and over again because they have built their kingdom upon the souls that they have discarded and they prosper because of the thousands that are no longer with them.  Have they sought us out one by one to get us back? No. Neither will they.  They don't want us back because we have been used up.  They want new blood that has many more years of life that can be shaped and formed into what best serves them.  


We are X-ers and we feel it is our moral responsibility to bring to light what the ntcc wants to keep in darkness.  We will continue to shine the light into the abyss of the ntcc and maybe others will see the light and escape.  From thirteen years of experience written by an ex cult member we continue to warn and admonish current and ex cult members to escape for your lives while you still can.  There is life outside of the ntcc; and we are are determined to live it.

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B)  Sounds Cultish

C)  I Read It

D)  ntcc puts too much emphasis on outward appearance

E)   God saves by grace

F)  Create Your Own By Leaving A Comment:  Example:  "F"  ntcc rules contradict God's Word 

G)  Glad To Be Out of ntcc

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I)    I'm Thinking Of Leaving ntcc

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ntcc: A Money-Making Pyramid Scheme

In a comment on our thread titled "Dog Show or Winterfest" April said,

"BUT,have you really been called of God? Ntcc is a Organization based on FALSE teachers. So how can it be of God?"

That's a good question April. The answer is that they "have a form of godliness but deny the power thereof." I believe that there are people saved in the ntcc, and called to preach even; but there is so much other garbage going on that God can't move. God can't bless unrepented of sin. When people gather together and call on God, God moves. But this is all they have to hang their hat on is "a feeling."

When I was in the ntcc, I believe that I was saved; but it was a shallow, restrictive Christianity. We were too critical of everyone around us to be effective. This critical attitude was taught and nurtured by the pastors in the Servicemen's homes and imitated by the members. But guess what? Do you think that the pastors learned this behavior on their own? It was taught to them by davis, kekel and the rest of that bunch up in Washington.

I used to bring carloads and vanloads of people out to church; but what was I really doing? Not only were they run off by the Holier than thou attitude we had, but we probably turned them away from ever wanting God. People like you and me still got saved; but how could God have blessed us in an environment where so much tearing down of the brethren took place?

I know I had good intentions; and I'd like to think that I led people to Christ. But just about every person that I know of that I invited to church has been run off. Out of 13 years of work, and bringing thousands of people to church, can God not keep one person? I'm not bragging about how many people I brought to church, but just trying to figure out what happened to them all.

I think that the ntcc is built like a multi-level marketing pyramid scheme. The highly esteemed rdub was a salesman at one time and if you look at the model of AMWAY or NIKEN or any other pyramid scheme, you'll find that they are cults in and of themselves.

They introduce you into their sales gimmick without telling you all the details up front. You have to go out to one of their meetings first. (Sound familiar?)

Then they try to make you feel that you are going to be a part of something unique and special. (Love Bombing.)

They show you the success stories of the rich and famous within their organization. (Supposing gain is godliness. So that you can have men's persons in admiration because of advantage. [So you can admire them, and suck-up to them because of the money and power they have.])

And tell you that it's a numbers game. You don't have to do any sales yourself, all you have to do is get them out to a professional sales pitch meeting (church); and the ones that have the experience in convincing people to spend money on stuff they don't want will get the sales for you (preachers / hirelings)...

Oh, and by the way, there is an initial investment (building funds, church budget offerings) usually over a thousand dollars and a monthly investment that they now call autoship (tithe and offerings), where you buy $100 per month of their product to get to the next level. If you get ten people to one of their meetings, one person will show enough interest to get ten more people out to one of their meetings; and then it's supposed to multiply.

But what you end up with is:

• A bunch of suckers that have spent thousands of dollars on a bunch of worthless junk.
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• And 99% of the people involved never succeeding.
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• And 1% that are getting filthy rich off of the work off the backs of a bunch of suckers.

That's how ntcc works:

• You invite droves of people out to church.
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• And one or two might get genuinely saved.
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• But then after years of being beaten down they end up leaving.

What have you accomplished?

You brought thousands ($$$,$$$) in tithe to the church; so that the fat cats in Graham could support their lavish lifestyles!

They sing about victory in Jesus, but where is their victory? They might have some conferences that God supposedly moves in; but after the joy and the worked up frenzy is gone then comes the plowing and beating down of the brethren.

It's all about the very few prospering off of the very hard work of many. Let's say ntcc has 10,000 people in it now: 9,000 are just "playing church" and 1,000 are truly dedicated; and 900 of these 1,000 of them will be beaten down and left for dead. What you have left is 100 that are either the rich and affluent or the few hold outs that think one day "they too will be like mike" [kekel].

ntcc is a pyramid money-making scam. Nothing more, nothing less. It is evil of them to dress it in robes of religion; but that is what satan does. He acts like he knows God's word better than you do [Thou shalt NOT surely die.] he spins a lie, hoping you will bite into the forbidden fruit and perish.

But we don't have to fall for satan and ntcc's devices. We have the Holy Spirit to teach us the truth, inspiring men and women to expose these FALSE teachers in ntcc; just as April has pointed out.
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A) Sounds Like a True Description of ntcc

B) Sounds Like ntcc is a Cult

C) I Read It

D) ntcc puts too much emphasis on money and numbers instead of souls

E) ntcc is a pyramid money-making scheme designed to make a few families at the top very rich while the majority of workers live sacrifice and poverty

F) Create Your Own By Leaving A Comment: Example: "F" ntcc leaders may preach Jesus, but they WORSHIP the 'almighty' dollar

G) Glad To Be Out of ntcc

H) Create Your Own "H" If you cost ntcc money, they will discard you to protect their true love, money.

I) I'm Thinking Of Leaving ntcc

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Today's Topic: LOVE?

Of all the attributes of God there are none that surpass love. Love is an emotion that I have been experiencing in large quantities lately most of which I would classify as Agape love which is the love of God. The love that my new wife and I share was placed in our hearts by God; and although the NTCC likes to teach that love between man and wife is mostly carnal, I disagree. When we were separated by NTCC I felt great loss; and my walk with God suffered. When God brought us back together, I realized that God's Love was greater than all commandments. God's love trumps all of the do's and don'ts that the NTCC preaches but doesn't always practice. Does God still have requirements? Yes.

When Jesus walked the earth the focus wasn't on the do's and the don'ts but on Glorifying His Father in heaven, by helping the afflicted. The majority of His wrath was directed against the religious leaders of the time who went around preaching the do's and the don'ts. The rest of what Jesus did was surrounded by Love and were works of faith like healing the sick, raising the dead and feeding the multitudes, etc...

Jesus said, "If I be lifted up, I will draw all men to me". He didn't say if we invite 1000 people out to church every week, or wear white shirts and wing tips all the time, or pay our tithe and give in offerings, or live a holiness lifestyle, or rest on Sunday, or any other works doctrine that you preach. While there is a place for these things, they are not supposed to be the focus of the church.

NTCC has their priorities mixed up. There are so many true stories of missionaries and pastors of the NTCC that have struggled and suffered and done without and sacrificed to the point of not eating right and not being able to provide basic food, shelter and clothing for their families while the fat cats in Washington are living large and have every comfort and amenity imaginable. Is this love?

ntcc founder r w davis and 2nd wife verna

I talked to others from NTCC on the phone and through e-mail correspondence. Many say that speaking out against the NTCC is nonproductive and while they are willing to speak against the NTCC over the phone or in private, they seem very hesitant about getting involved with reading this blog or others like it. My stand is a whole lot different. NTCC is a Cult. They strain at a gnat and swallow a camel. They require way more out of their members then they themselves are willing to give. Hypocrisy does not get any more hypocritical than this.

These are the ones that Jesus preached against. The damage that they are causing in people's hearts and lives is unbelievable. There are many people in and out of NTCC that feel hopelessly lost and that there is no way out. They have been used, lied to, preached at, emotionally and spiritually abused, separated from loved ones including spouses and children. If a wife disagrees with the NTCC they are scolded publicly and scorned by the so called "man of God" and eventually ran off while the husband is praised for surviving the ordeal. But don't let your guard down because even though you have sacrificed your family, your turn to be kicked to the curb is coming. When you have been totally used up and can't pray or feel God any more and are at your lowest point in life, you will also be discarded. You have outlived your usefulness.

As for me and my house, we will preach love. It's too late for NTCC to tell me that they are the only true church; that they preach the only true Gospel; that any time you say anything against them you are blaspheming God's Church. I got set free after years of condemnation experienced from leaving the cult. God redeemed me and delivered me from all of the things that NTCC used to say you can and cannot do; but what is greater is that God placed his love in my heart; and it is a love that surpasses all understanding and transcends all outward works.

While my words may sound harsh, it is necessary because people are suffering needlessly in the NTCC. We are now in the information age; and even though this is considered the "sinnernet", somebody might see this and wake up. I'm not making fun of anyone; because I was once asleep and oblivious to the deception of NTCC. If you would take a close, close look at what they are doing, you would see something isn't right. I felt it while I was a member but refused to look at it. There IS life after NTCC. God has not forsaken you. Let God's love speak louder than man's preaching.

Don

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D)  ntcc uses people

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