We get to Washington. Move into a place where a lot of people from NTCC were living in fact only a couple of the apartments had people that weren’t apart of NTCC. I start classes again and it was a challenge. I still had trouble with the reading and writing and taking notes. I got myself in trouble a few times because of it. I hadn’t been in Washington but a few weeks before I was called to supposedly help Tanya [Kekel] but she wasn’t the one asking [Mike] Kekel was the one. I get a ride over there he had told me to bring [my young son] Thomas so I thought maybe it won’t be sex or anything like that. I arrive Tanya was taking [her son] Grant [Kekel] somewhere but [allegedly] needed another child to go with her to this activity. I told her I didn’t want Thomas going without me. I didn’t like the idea of him being away from me. I didn’t tell her I didn’t trust her which was going through my mind. Kekel says remember I am in charge. God has given me the authority to know what is best for your child. I tried again but there was no winning the argument. She left with both boys. I am sick at that point fearing how my son would be treated but having no idea once again what to do. Tanya leaves me with cleaning orders. Kekel is supposed to be working on something and she says not to bother him. She isn’t gone long before Kekel is in my face. He tells me I am going to get a spanking for arguing with the man of God. I have no idea that he can’t actually do this being I am adult. He is playing on my ignorance. I am terrified for he is brutal in his spankings and I know sex will follow which with a brutal spanking sex will hurt worse. He undresses me from the waist down. I beg him not to do it. I told him as a mother I hate to be away from my son this is why I spoke. I told him it is making me sick that he is gone at that moment. He said so you admit you argued with your God-given authority. I am going to have spank the rebellion out of you. He quoted scriptures about discipline to me as he had me bend over. I didn’t undress for a few days in front of my then husband [Donny Ridgeway] not knowing how to explain the marks. This time he [Mike Kekel] gave me some stuff that made the marks disappear in a few days. It was a container with no label so I have no idea what it was. By the third day I couldn’t tell I had had any marks. All he told me was it was for adults after a spanking. Once again I was too ignore to question him. He [Mike Kekel] did have sex with me again that day. He said God sent you back to me for he knows I need additional pleasure in my life and it helps my stress level of having to deal with difficult people that refuse to obey their God-given authority.
After he was done I clean up really quickly fearing if I didn’t get the cleaning orders done Tanya would spank me as well. She had spanked me in the past. I didn’t think with a sick stomach, stress, a spanking, and unwanted sex my body could take another spanking. So I began to move very quickly with the cleaning.
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| Why Would Tanya Kekel Knowingly Leave Her Husband Mike Alone with Julie? What Did Tanya Do with Julie's Son Thomas After Removing Him From His Mother Julie Against Her Protests? To Us These Allegations Indicate Sex Trafficking. In Our Opinion, They Implicate Tanya Kekel In Both The Rape Of Julie and Possible Gross Activity [Sex With?] the Young Boy, Thomas Ridgeway. |
Tanya walks in the door I just barely got done. Thomas comes barreling at me wanting to be held in fact he wanted to be held until I went to class that night. All he said about the day was Tanya was rude. Tanya walked around the house complained a couple of times but said nothing more. So I went home to get dinner and get ready for class that night.
I was so overwhelmed. I couldn’t focus on class that night which led me to typing crazy notes since I had nothing to go on for them.
This scene played a 6 more times while I was in my second round of being at “the cemetery”. I would be called to the Kekels to cleaning and bless the leaders. The things I saw and witnessed with these leaders are just sickening including finding Kekel’s playboy collection.
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| Silenced by beatings and threats of damnation Julie was "left to carry the weight" alone. Whom could she tell without them going to borg leaders and reporting it? Then, she alleges, spankings / beatings would follow. |
Kekel would tell me all the time how God had given me unto him. It made it hard not to view him unclothed. It also made it difficult to have to ask his permission about other things. I was left to carry this weight having to pretend I wasn't hurting inside. I wanted to have someone care to know the pain my heart was in. I would be around the ladies including one of my neighbors who faithfully took me grocery shopping yet I was scared into silence on the matter. I tried to tell Joan but of course Kekel found out. I was accused of lying. I began to think I was commenting adultery the more I listened to things said at Graham. I was confused since Kekel would say it was God’s will but in the next breath he would accuse me of sinning for making him long for my body. He told me he even dreamed of sex with me at night. I had no idea he was the one sinning and he was commenting a crime.
Two of the times he went off the normal course and had me do oral sex instead of on all four. He said he needed this instead because there were bible school students that were stressing him way out and his wife didn’t want to do it. He would talk about people during our time together. He would talk bad about the building crew, bible school students, he would say all the people that work on the campground were dumb a—air heads and the women were the worst. I had no idea who was at the campground all I thought is well he seems to think of them the same he feels about me. He even downed some of the leaders. He would name people and ask if I had had sex with them. No matter the answer I gave it was the wrong one and he would accuse me of lying and slap me I was standing for this. One of times that he slapped me I tripped causing my nose to hit something. I ended up with a bloody nose. When asked about it since I had a small bruise I said I tripped and hit my nose which was only part of what happened.
There is probably more details that aren’t coming to mind at this point about these times in Graham but will come to me later.
To Be Continued...
All of this is so horrible. We can not imagine how Julie survived this life. Only the grace of God could bring somebody through this constant cycle of allegedly being treated as a sex slave. And now with these allegations coming to light about Tanya participating, it is even worse.
Tanya Reynolds Davis Kekel was born to a Filipino woman, Elizabeth Reynolds, who gave her up for adoption. Davis raised her in the NTCC, constantly bellowing out his version of holiness- NEVER BE ALONE WITH SOMEONE OF THE OPPOSITE SEX [gender].
- Why would Tanya orchestrate this alone-time for her hubby Mike with Julie St. Clair?
- Why didn't Tanya respect Julie's protests and leave Thomas with Julie - his mother?
- Where did Tanya take Thomas?
- What happened to Thomas?
- Why was he clingy - "wanting to be held"?
- Why did he say Tanya was "rude"?
- In an earlier post, Julie described Mike Kekel as being "rude". Since then Julie has shared that allegedly Kekel's "rude" behavior included spankings / beatings and raping her.
- Did Thomas' description of Tanya cover equally ugly behavior by Tanya (the spankings and rapes) that Julie's description of Kekel covered of Mike's behavior? Is that what "rude" means? - A violent sexual predator? We have to wonder.
None of this makes any sense in a so-called holiness church that beat their drums about never being alone with someone of the opposite sex. Unless the leaders are all hypocrites; (which evidence says they are). Then it all makes sense: They say the opposite of what they do:
Those are 3 examples of Davis DOING THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT HE SAID. That is proof Davis was a hypocrite. And as we all heard many, many times from the mouth of NTCC Executive Board Member Joey Olson: "... Davis IS the organization." So guess what? The NTCC is run by HYPOCRITES who DO what they say should never be done.
UPDATE: May 3, 2014
Anonymous said...
I cleaned M. Kekel's house before too. He hit me on the butt once. I went to Olson about it. M. Kekel claimed he bumped my butt accidently and nothing more was said. It bothered me but I thought I was in the wrong. This confirms I wasn't wrong. He hit my butt on purpose. I think he was testing to see what he could get away with before he tried more. I am disgusted by how far you got with you Julie.
Please watch the following video by investigative reporter Mike Watkiss and ask yourself what similarities you see in the stories coming out of the FLDS / Warren Jeffs compound and the NTCC that Julie survived.
Warning: Video may trigger bad memories and raise awareness.
Related Topics:
Women and Children in NTCC
I Have A Name by Julie
My NTCC - Posts by and About Julie
- Davis said, Don't be alone with somebody of the opposite sex; but Davis was seen going into houses of women whose husbands were at work. One, Pam Norton, testified of Davis' lewd sexual actions with her.
- Davis said match-making was wrong. Yet Davis set up rules that stopped anyone from even talking to other single people unless Davis approved of it. That, friends, IS MATCHMAKING! HELLO!
- Davis yelled at pregnant women saying they would have to answer to God for ruining their husband's ministry since children hinder the work of Gawd. But Davis went out of his way to the Philippines to adopt Tanya Maxamillia Reynolds Davis Kekel.
Those are 3 examples of Davis DOING THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT HE SAID. That is proof Davis was a hypocrite. And as we all heard many, many times from the mouth of NTCC Executive Board Member Joey Olson: "... Davis IS the organization." So guess what? The NTCC is run by HYPOCRITES who DO what they say should never be done.
UPDATE: May 3, 2014
Please watch the following video by investigative reporter Mike Watkiss and ask yourself what similarities you see in the stories coming out of the FLDS / Warren Jeffs compound and the NTCC that Julie survived.
Warning: Video may trigger bad memories and raise awareness.
Related Topics:
Women and Children in NTCC
I Have A Name by Julie
My NTCC - Posts by and About Julie
86 comments:
Anonymous said...
Oh this is what happened that day.... I was to take her to the motel
DNA say,
The previous comment by Anonymous was on the thread: During Fall Conference 1992 Michael Kekel Raped Me At New Testament Christian Church National Campground Near Mexico, MO / Mark Twain Lake and Ralph St. Clair Raped Me At The Hotel
Thanks for your comment. If we didn't tell you already, your comment means a lot to us. We responded, but the response was the 201 comment, which isn't always easy to pull up, so it may not have been seen.
So here it is again. :o)
Do you remember what motel you took Julie to? Or even which town it was in? Thanks.
Julie wrote,
"This time he [Mike Kekel] gave me some stuff that made the marks disappear in a few days. It was a container with no label so I have no idea what it was. By the third day I couldn’t tell I had had any marks. All he told me was it was for adults after a spanking."
DNA say,
First of all, if you are spanking someone so hard that it leaves marks, that is assault and battery.
Second, ASSAULT is a CRIME.
Third, It's obvious that this was premeditated by Kekel since he had the 'magic potion' already pre-packaged in an unmarked container with no label and told her "it was for adults after a spanking."
Mike probably had Tanya put that 'magic potion' in the jar so he could 'help' Julie hide the bruises his brutal 'spanking' / beating left on her body.
Julie wrote,
" Tanya was taking [her son] Grant [Kekel] somewhere but [allegedly] needed another child to go with her to this activity. I told her I didn’t want Thomas going without me. I didn’t like the idea of him being away from me. I didn’t tell her I didn’t trust her which was going through my mind. Kekel says remember I am in charge. God has given me the authority to know what is best for your child. I tried again but there was no winning the argument. She left with both boys. I am sick at that point fearing how my son would be treated but having no idea once again what to do."
DNA say,
Taking someone's child away from them against their wishes is KIDNAPPING.
KIDNAPPING is a CRIME.
!!!
Why did Tanya Kekel choose Thomas Ridgeway to take with her?
Why didn't she take Olson's granddaughter, the daughter of Regina Olson Brill and Danny Brill?
Why didn't tanya take Jim and Deborah Johnson's grandson, the oldest son of Becky Johnson Ankenbauer and Chad Ankenbauer?
Why didn't Tanya Kekel take Ashmore's grandson, the oldest son of Laurie Duran DiFrancesco and John R. DiFrancesco.
Why didn't Tanya Kekel take Ted and Jean Keys son with her that day?
What was it about Julie and Thomas that made Tanya Kekel decide to take Thomas with her that day?
Did Tanya know that she and Mike could keep Julie silent?
Did Tanya know that Julie had been trained that she had no rights and could therefore be controlled and ordered about against her wishes?
Of course Tanya knew that. That's why Tanya was happy to spank Julie for eating french fries with her fingers. That's why Tanya was threatening to spank Julie for not wanting to get her hair poofed when Julie was a young, young girl and didn't want to be made to look like an older girl, aged up to be put on the NTCC meat-market of young girls for older men.
We think Tanya knew exactly what she was doing by leaving Julie there and taking Thomas with her.
Julie wrote,
"Kekel says remember I am in charge. God has given me the authority to know what is best for your child. I tried again but there was no winning the argument. She left with both boys. I am sick at that point fearing how my son would be treated but having no idea once again what to do. Tanya leaves me with cleaning orders. Kekel is supposed to be working on something and she says not to bother him. She isn’t gone long before Kekel is in my face. He tells me I am going to get a spanking for arguing with the man of God. I have no idea that he can’t actually do this being I am adult. He is playing on my ignorance. I am terrified for he is brutal in his spankings and I know sex will follow which with a brutal spanking sex will hurt worse. He undresses me from the waist down. I beg him not to do it. I told him as a mother I hate to be away from my son this is why I spoke. I told him it is making me sick that he is gone at that moment. He said so you admit you argued with your God-given authority. I am going to have spank the rebellion out of you. He quoted scriptures about discipline to me as he had me bend over. I didn’t undress for a few days in front of my then husband [Donny Ridgeway] not knowing how to explain the marks. This time he [Mike Kekel] gave me some stuff that made the marks disappear in a few days. It was a container with no label so I have no idea what it was. By the third day I couldn’t tell I had had any marks. All he told me was it was for adults after a spanking. Once again I was too ignore to question him. He [Mike Kekel] did have sex with me again that day. He said God sent you back to me for he knows I need additional pleasure in my life and it helps my stress level of having to deal with difficult people that refuse to obey their God-given authority.
Don and Ange say,
The fact that Kekel used his church office and authority in this rape and beating opens an additional set of laws about posers who abuse their
"POSITION OF TRUST"
and exercise
UNDUE AUTHORITY
to COERCE the person in their trust, doing
UNLAWFUL CRIMINAL THINGS.
In case you haven't figured it out yet, Kekel is not a "man of Gawd". He is a mere mortal accused of breaking several serious laws and doing unspeakable things upon your seminary campus and National Campground.
At the least Kekel's actions have brought great discredit to God and the NTCC; as a result he is guilty of "Conduct unbecoming a minsiter..." and should no longer be allowed to "hide behind the pulpit". Kekel's license should be revoked and his credentials rescinded. Kekel should be removed from his positon of trust. We honestly mean him no harm. But the severity of these accusations, the consistency of the stories merit at least an internal review with a minimum of temporary revocation of license and duties just to "let all things be done decently and in order".
At the worst, if he is found guilty of these accusations, he has broken laws of God and man, is a predatory pedophile who repeatedly abused and raped a girl with cerebral palsy and should be in prison.
We are not his judge and mean him and his family no harm. But a church should be a place of healing. NTCC needs to consider what it has become and re-evaluate their profession of faith. The stories of life in NTCC do not match the NTCC profession of their doctrinal statement and bylaws. This can not be right before God.
A church should never be an excuse to hide criminal activity.
Who can stand against these feigns.
They are all yes men who cannot stand even for their own wives!
Remember the time when rw got offended at the conference because ms Olson moved in her chair and her face showed discomfort? Remember, she had just come from chemo and still attended the conference but God forbid you moved or did anything while rw taught! But he got mad at her and in front of all let her have it and Olson never did anything, he just stood there having his cancer ridden wife being verbally abused and Olson who was supposed to be so good can't come to the defense if his own flesh and blood more less a defenseless girl like Julie.
I'm sick to my stomach just thinking the times Tanya had these young girls from the dorms come to her house! They sure had the pick of the crop there!
How sickening!
It appears that Tanya knew that her husband was having sex with Julie! What do others think?
Kekel when your jail time is comming I wil rejoice and your wife will have to go before you! Ha ha Ha.
You are a torture team. Hey Grant look at your parents - they are criminals. Somebody out there send them to the north korean labour camp.
Aha and Playboy magazines in his house - there you have your personal man of God.
Hey Grantilein look your father is looking at naked women in the Playboy magazine - that's why your parents send you away so you won't be able to see what your father does behind closed doors.
Please post this Ange.
The NBA is a whole lot smarter than the NTCC. At least they know how to get rid of their crooks and have a desire to do so. The sucker said: "God bless you Rev Kekel, we believe in you Sir". "You are the man of God Rev. Kekel". Kekel said: "You are the biggest sucker on the whole planet brother".
Man, there isn't anything godly about the Kekels. Even without Julie's story I could say that. No "REAL" leader has his church members to come in and clean his house anyway.
And the other half is Tanya Kekel. She allows it to take place because she sees herself above the sisters who are the maids and again Tanya sees the maids as women who are beneath her. Tanya "ABOVE", and the cleanup women "BENEATH". ABOVE, BENEATH. Can you say, "ABOVE", "BENEATH" Sisters??? ABOVE BENEATH. Tanya goes out shopping while you clean her dog gone house. UNBELIEVABLE!!!!! Tanya takes the kids out while her husband has sex with the maid.
You NTCC women need to realize that you are "HUMAN BEINGS" with rights also, (contrary to the NTCCs popular belief) and you need to tell your sorry husbands and both Mike and Tanya Kekel that you ain't cleaning their dog gone house!!!!! Not even for pay. If they are going to pay you to clean their house, you are better off going out to find a "REAL" job for Pete sakes.
That is incredible. Tanya and Mike Kekel are pieces of garbage and I just put that nicely. I can think of an more appropriate expletive but I digress. You know what? I simply need to reduce my blogging because I'm getting exasperated by this whole thing. Just to think that there is still some sucker husband out there waiting in line to tell his wife to go to the Kekel's house and bend over so Kekel can do her doggie style. "You better wipe that floor girl, haaaaaaaa". "Awwwwww yeaaaah" "Wipe it girl". "In the name of Jesus, get on all fours"!!!! "Awwwww Yeaaaaaah".
You ntcc folks have to be completely out of your minds to allow that mess.
Please post this Ange, stuff like this is necessary. Maybe they'll wake up. Kekel has nothing to do with Christ. He has a lot to do with the Antichrist. And you NTCC women need to grow up. How in the world are you going to show up to clean another woman's house and have her tell you what to do? She is a fellow church member for crying out loud. She ain't your master. Any you NTCC husbands who allow your wife to do this? With access to all this information, there needs to be a law banning you from ever getting married again. Your wife should leave you. She would be better off as a straight prostitute. At least she'd get some pleasure out of the deal, but oh but I forgot. She may very well be. "Awwwwwwww Yeaaaaaaah". Get it Mike, get it.
You think I'm vulgar? No Mike Kekel is vulgar. Tanya is vulgar. They promote this mess. While you dummy husbands are cleaning the church or soul winning or doing something for the sorry organization, your wife is over at Kekel's house all bent over on her hands and knees and I'm not trying to be funny one single bit.
You guys need to wake up, grow up, and get a life and more importantly a back bone because that was taken from you when you allegedly got saved.
Chief.
And here is another thing because I know how NTCC people's minds work. Some of you women will say, "Oh but Tanya Kekel was very nice to me when I went and cleaned her house and Mike was a perfect gentleman".
You don't think Adolf Hitler was ever nice to anyone? Charles Manson? Jeffery Dahmer? The kid who walking in that school and shot all those children? You don't think they were ever nice to anyone? Maybe Tanya was nice on occasion and may Mike didn't hit on "EVERY" women who ever went in to clean his house but that doesn't mean you can simply dismiss all this. For those of you who don't know, another woman came on here and testified about Mike Kekel trying to get her to see him privately in his house and when she didn't want to do it he told her she could leave.
People, Mike Kekel is a creep.
Chief
Julie wrote:
"including finding Kekel’s playboy collection."
we were told not to judge mck choices in literature while cleaning his house. maybe that is why rw ranted about the internet being all about porn!
did he have to pick on julie? he could of gone to downtown tacoma to take care of business. that's if he hasn't already.
Anonymous said...
we were told not to judge mck choices in literature while cleaning his house
Chief wrote...
That's just more verification of what I've been saying all along. I suppose Anonymous is lying also??? Those creeps not only promoted the cleaning of their own houses by church members but they did their best to psychologically conditioned you in the process. "Don't Judge MCK when you clean his house."
And the maid said, "Yes master", "Yes master". "I'll be sure to shut off my brain from the minute I walk in to Kekel's front door to the minute I leave".
If I went in to clean Kekel's house, I'd deliberately overflow the toilet after I laid down a big one so that Mike could find if floating across his hard wood floor. That thing would be like the Ark when I finished; floating all across Kekel's living room. Nothing but disrespect for that couple. If you think I'm kidding about this whole house cleaning thing, go to my blog and you'll find how many times I wrote about it. I haven't agreed with that mess for years. Church women going in to clean another woman's house. What kind of mess it that? You've let the Kekel's play you like they were a couple "plantation masters" for crying out loud.
The one good thing about the Kekel's is that they didn't discriminate. It didn't matter what color your were to clean their house. Just like it doesn't matter what color you are to pay them your tithe money. YES SIR, NO SIR, MASTER KEKEL. Man I ain't cleaning anything for the Kekel's under any circumstances.
Hey Mike and Tanya...
I'll come clean your house. You'll find the Ark of Chief floating across your toiled flooded living room floor and me standing their with a big smile on my face saying, "Awwwwww Yeaaaaah". "Get some of that". ROFLOL. Want me to clean your house? I'll bring a cow into your living room to drop his load right in the middle of your living room floor and smear it around your floor with the message you wrote last night or maybe one of your magazines.
NO RESPECT. NONE for those two.
Chief
What's all the poo talk about? Well, the bible speaks of dung too. So before you get your panties in a twist (get upset) or before you strain at a gnat and swallow a camel, or, as davis used to say, I'm not mocking your shodesty (a Spoonerism for shocking your modesty)... *rolls eyes and looks off to the side in disgusted exasperation* Here's some examples of poo in the bible:
(2Ki 9:37 KJV)
And the carcase of Jezebel shall be as dung upon the face of the field in the portion of Jezreel; [so] that they shall not say, This [is] Jezebel.
(Jer 16:4 KJV)
They shall die of grievous deaths; they shall not be lamented; neither shall they be buried; [but] they shall be as dung upon the face of the earth: and they shall be consumed by the sword, and by famine; and their carcases shall be meat for the fowls of heaven, and for the beasts of the earth.
(Jer 25:33 KJV)
And the slain of the LORD shall be at that day from [one] end of the earth even unto the [other] end of the earth: they shall not be lamented, neither gathered, nor buried; they shall be dung upon the ground.
(Zep 1:17 KJV)
And I will bring distress upon men, that they shall walk like blind men, because they have sinned against the LORD: and their blood shall be poured out as dust, and their flesh as the dung.
(Mal 2:3 KJV)
Behold, I will corrupt your seed, and spread dung upon your faces, [even] the dung of your solemn feasts; and [one] shall take you away with it.
He has a lot to do with the Antichrist.
Well said, I think the same!
Now that we've got that out of our systems, let's remember:
Mike kekel is accused of repeatedly beating and raping a girl with cerebral palsy, and of abusing his "position of trust" to do so.
Tanya kekel allegedly was a knowing accomplice, arranging for Julie and mike to be alone together, allegedly by kidnapping Julie's son Thomas for the day, removing him from his mother Julie against Julie's protests.
cleaning kekel's house will be a litmus test to see who has been reading the blogs!
Chief beat the horse about how wrong it was for sisters to be cleaning at the kekel plantation. Apparently it was more wrong than even he thought. While reading Julie's accounts, I figured Tanya had to know what was going on. She just ate or shopped a lot to "deal" with it. Now to realize she was in on it to this level is just disgusting. The poo flush at their house would be fitting.
kekel does not have any strength of character to be a church leader, maybe a good dog catcher, but not a church leader. He was only promoted to his postion because of his wife. There are other brothers and sisters who are better qualified than kekel to be a leader. Kekels handlers, Olson, Johnson, Ashmore, Difrancesco and Davis, who is now preaching his ministry of prosperity to the maggots and dung beetles all help kekel in making decisions, kekel does not have the intelligence to make sound decisions on his own or the strength of character to guide him. Its no wonder he molested and used Julie for his own gratification. Instead of correcting the corruption within ntcc when he became a leader, he started doing the same thing as the other leaders with no strength of character, no honesty, no integrity, just lies lies and more lies.
Kekel says remember I am in charge. God has given me the authority to know what is best for your child.
To jail with you Kekel's. Send the whole family to jail. Put them behind bars where they belong. They have tortured innocent people.
Hey Kekel I'll be watching your trial here in Germany. Your ugly wife stinks to heaven.
I will celebrate when you're behind bars. I'll shout Halleluja!
Didn't Ramirez preach "Your sin will find you out"! Your sin found both of you out! I wish Ramirez would have known your evil deeds.
To jail with you - to jail - the whole family.
Grant can take his schoolbooks with him to jail!!!!
Hey Grantilein look at your parents in what they are in. Shame on you - what a shame to have such parents.
Hey Tanya, shut your mouth!!! Conceived and born in adultery. Who do you think you are?
Maurice said:
" Instead of correcting the corruption within ntcc when he became a leader, he started doing the same thing as the other leaders with no strength of character, no honesty, no integrity, just lies lies and more lies."
DNA said:
And that my friend is where the root of this problem all began. A bunch of ungodly sinners are running the ntcc and they are not even qualified to run an AA meeting, much less a church organization. They are Cult leaders, Scam Artists and they started out corrupt, living contrary to all decency and they have taken good people and corrupted them so bad that they don't even realize it. Kekel is a sinner, and an ungodly one at that. Now we all have sinned and need a Savior but Kekel has used the people of God to get rich and satisfy his lustful and perverted, sexually deviant, pedophile desires.
Ashmore, Olson, Johnson, DiFrancesco, Jones and all who go along with this scam, and know about it, are wicked, sinners that have no conscious for the righteous or for the poor and needy. They make people poorer and poorer while they get richer and richer. They steal the innocence of a child while they become more and more polluted. They are nothing but a bunch of Godless sinners. That's exactly what they are and many of you are paying them to treat you like dung.
He said so you admit you argued with your God-given authority. I am going to have spank the rebellion out of you. He quoted scriptures about discipline to me as he had me bend over.
Kekel you are in the devils authority - but not God's authority. Wailt, one day we will beat you as you have beaten others.
Anonymous said...
I wish Ramirez would have known your evil deeds.
Chief wrote...
I'm not trying to be contentious, but I'm convinced that Ramirez wouldn't have done a single solitary thing other than say, "I don't believe any of this". Ramirez was a company man and quite unnecessarily abusive himself. Ramirez wasn't part of the solution, he was part of the problem.
Just my thoughts.
Chief
Anonymous said...
Grant can take his schoolbooks with him to jail!!!!
Chief wrote..
Wow, here I go again. I understand your passion Anon, trust me I do. Having said that, I don't think Grant had anything to do with that mess. He was born into it, he certainly didn't create it. He only lived the life he was allowed to and I don't blame him one bit. At least that's one childhood that didn't get wrecked. I got no beef with Grant. I do however have a beef with his hypocrite parents who allowed him to live a lifestyle which was withheld from virtually all other children who grew up in the NTCC. Mike and Tanya are simply a couple sorry stinking double standard hypocrites who are in it for nothing more than the money, narcissistic control of others, and apparently a few sexual exploits as well.
To all you NTCCers who read this message: Your leader, (Mike Kekel) is not under any circumstances a "Man of God". Did you hear me? He is not even a good fake. His wife is not a woman of God. She is a spoiled woman who's had everything handed to here on a silver platter and she believes that she is entitled to everything. They are both, two of the sorriest leaders who I've ever met in my entire life without doubt.
Chief
Does Grant even attend the local ntcc while he is in that Catholic St. Louis University?
DNA said....."Third, It's obvious that this was premeditated by Kekel since he had the 'magic potion' already pre-packaged in an unmarked container with no label and told her "it was for adults after a spanking."
Julie says....
Well I had never considered the fact that he had this stuff already prepackaged or that this would make it premeditated.
Hugs,
Julie
Julie wrote,
" Tanya was taking [her son] Grant [Kekel] somewhere but [allegedly] needed another child to go with her to this activity. I told her I didn’t want Thomas going without me. I didn’t like the idea of him being away from me. I didn’t tell her I didn’t trust her which was going through my mind. Kekel says remember I am in charge. God has given me the authority to know what is best for your child. I tried again but there was no winning the argument. She left with both boys. I am sick at that point fearing how my son would be treated but having no idea once again what to do."
DNA say,
Taking someone's child away from them against their wishes is KIDNAPPING.
Julie says.....
Wow I didn't realize that would be considered kidnapping.
Hugs,
Julie
DNA said....Did Tanya know that she and Mike could keep Julie silent?
Did Tanya know that Julie had been trained that she had no rights and could therefore be controlled and ordered about against her wishes?
Of course Tanya knew that. That's why Tanya was happy to spank Julie for eating french fries with her fingers. That's why Tanya was threatening to spank Julie for not wanting to get her hair poofed when Julie was a young, young girl and didn't want to be made to look like an older girl, aged up to be put on the NTCC meat-market of young girls for older men.
We think Tanya knew exactly what she was doing by leaving Julie there ......
Julie says.....
I believe Tanya knew what was happening. She banked on my ignorance keeping me quiet and the fact that I followed the rules. Plus the fact every time I was over her house as a child she always turned to Mike Kekel to get on me if she didn't like what I was doing. So it would make sense for Mike Kekel to turn to her to help him get what he wanted from me. The way they disciplined me over eating French fries with my hands is just plain torcher.
Hugs,
Julie
Blog post.....
Julie wrote,
"Kekel says remember I am in charge. God has given me the authority to know what is best for your child. I tried again but there was no winning the argument. She left with both boys. I am sick at that point fearing how my son would be treated but having no idea once again what to do. Tanya leaves me with cleaning orders. Kekel is supposed to be working on something and she says not to bother him. She isn’t gone long before Kekel is in my face. He tells me I am going to get a spanking for arguing with the man of God. I have no idea that he can’t actually do this being I am adult. He is playing on my ignorance.
Thanks to NTCC they messed up my idea of right and wrong in what people could do to me. This led me to believe all NTCC men had full control over me that I could never say no to any of them. I carried this into life outside of NTCC still not knowing I could tell them no. I didn't know I had rights. I didn't know as a woman I was more than an object that someone could shelf. I became a puppet that people just pulled strings when they wanted me to react.
I was hurt over and over again not knowing I didn't have be. Finally someone told me last year I didn't deserve to be hurt that I had a right to enjoy life and the good things it had to offer. It took me time to even start believing that since the opposite had been drilled into my head for so long. I still struggle with it.
Hugs,
Julie
DNA said....Remember, she had just come from chemo and still attended the conference but God forbid you moved or did anything while rw taught! But he got mad at her and in front of all let her have it and Olson never did anything, he just stood there having his cancer ridden wife being verbally abused and Olson who was supposed to be so good can't come to the defense if his own flesh and blood more less a defenseless girl like Julie.
I'm sick to my stomach just thinking the times Tanya had these young girls from the dorms come to her house! They sure had the pick of the crop there!
How sickening!
Julie says....
Yes it is sickening for sure. They don't care in the least.
Hugs,
Julie
Anonymous said...
It appears that Tanya knew that her husband was having sex with Julie!
Julie says.....
I believe she did know. Why else leave me there knowing I am alone with her husband?
Hugs,
Julie
I'm not trying to be contentious, but I'm convinced that Ramirez wouldn't have done a single solitary thing other than say, "I don't believe any of this". Ramirez was a company man and quite unnecessarily abusive himself. Ramirez wasn't part of the solution, he was part of the problem.
Yes, you're right - I believe the same and have experienced the same!
Hey, Yvonne Ramirez who is going to hell now according to your stupid husband???? He probably would put the adulterers in heaven!!!!
Anonymous said....Aha and Playboy magazines in his house - there you have your personal man of God.
Julie says....
Yeah Mike Kekel was upset when I found them too.
Hugs,
Julie
Chief said....And the other half is Tanya Kekel. She allows it to take place because she sees herself above the sisters who are the maids and again Tanya sees the maids as women who are beneath her. Tanya "ABOVE", and the cleanup women "BENEATH". ABOVE, BENEATH. Can you say, "ABOVE", "BENEATH" Sisters??? ABOVE BENEATH. Tanya goes out shopping while you clean her dog gone house. UNBELIEVABLE!!!!! Tanya takes the kids out while her husband has sex with the maid.
Julie said....
Well said! This is how Tanya Kekel is. Making others do what she is to lazy to do including meeting her own husband's sexual desires. It is just all so sick and so wrong.
Hugs,
Julie
You don't think Adolf Hitler was ever nice to anyone? Charles Manson? Jeffery Dahmer? The kid who walking in that school and shot all those children? You don't think they were ever nice to anyone? Maybe Tanya was nice on occasion and may Mike didn't hit on "EVERY" women who ever went in to clean his house but that doesn't mean you can simply dismiss all this.
Very True!!! Abusers are always nice to some and mean to others which blindside and deceives many people.
Hugs,
Julie
Disturbed said....
we were told not to judge mck choices in literature while cleaning his house. maybe that is why rw ranted about the internet being all about porn!
Julie says....
The leaders loved their dirty magazines and their porn that is for sure so with that they assumed and treated all men like they had the same problem.
Hugs,
Julie
Anonymous said...
did he have to pick on julie? he could of gone to downtown tacoma to take care of business.
Julie says....
I didn't cost him anything. We already know that Mike and Tanya Kekel are greedy individuals. If he went downtown Tacoma they would some of his free unearned money and this would just not be right in their eyes. Plus someone might see him like someone saw Phil Kinson and he couldn't have that. What Kekel seems to forget is nothing is hidden from God.
Hugs,
Julie
Chief said....
NO RESPECT. NONE for those two.
Julie says...
I agree! I have zero respect for Mike and Tanya Kekel. They haven't earned respect in any category in life.
Hugs,
Julie
Anon a mouse said....
While reading Julie's accounts, I figured Tanya had to know what was going on. She just ate or shopped a lot to "deal" with it. Now to realize she was in on it to this level is just disgusting.
Julie says....
It is disgusting for a woman to be in on her own husband's raping a young woman not caring in the least. Another thing in life they could take for free and not loose their already stolen money. Living like this "Let me take from you with this hand while I hold onto what I have already stolen from others in my other hand.
Hugs,
Julie
Anonymous Maurice said...
kekel does not have any strength of character to be a church leader, maybe a good dog catcher, but not a church leader. He was only promoted to his postion because of his wife. There are other brothers and sisters who are better qualified than kekel to be a leader
Julie says....
No he doesn't have character a church leader should have. It is true that he only got to his position in leadership because of his wife. Yeppers that is so true.
A deceitful liar, thief, child molester and rapist doesn't belong behind a pulpit. It is just sick that people ignore what is right in front of them. They are being burned by a torch yet even has the blisters form before their very eyes they deny what is happening.
Hugs,
Julie
Julie I just want to thank you for speaking out. This has got to b hard for you especially when it involves family members you are up against. It is because of you that I asked God into my heart and God has been repairing my marriage. My oldest noticed that I am doing so much better so did my husband. Our lives are forever changed. My son asked Jesus into his heart at the breakfast table this morning.
Both my husband and myself have jobs now and we are excited about life. We are climbing out of the poorhouse.
Thank you for shining Jesus for the world to see. It has got to take a lot of laying down self to share like you do. Thank you Jesus for humble people like Julie.
Julie, I think that you are correct on all points. Alone that same line of thinking, has it ever occurred to you or anyone, how was it with all of the so called holier than thou preaching that they preach that Two homosexual and one crossdressing preacher, could make it out into ntcc form of ministry? I contend that it was because of a like of integrity amongst the leaders why those men was trusted to go out into ntcc form of ministry, where was the Spirit of discernment? Answer, the Spirit cannot operate when there is corruption amongst the leaders,i also believe that its the same reason that they abused, and molested you, because of corrupt leadership. A real God fearing Leader would have removed your parents, a real God fearing Leader would not have even promoted kekle that's what corrupt leaders do. A real God fearing Leader would have informed law enforcement not cover it up, and its really sad that you had to endure so much abuse from ntcc because of a lack of leadership. Where are the stand up folks? Again, I contend that ntcc don't want stand up folks at the top you got to be a little corrupt to make it to the top or the inner circle you got to be able to keep secrets and keep your mouth shut.
Julie you are truly doing a great work for God on this blog. Understand when doing what God wants the devil will get mad and fight you more than ever. May you be strong in the power of the Lord. Julie you are fighting the devil's kingdom and he doesn't like it. Don't stop doing what needs to be done. Remember you are on the winning team. If you feel you have more battles than you know what to do with that is just a sign you are the most dangerous in the devil's mind. You are an incredible warrior of God.
Alabama Thread: We just learned from a reliable source who heard it out of his own mouth, that DONNY RIDGEWAY ADMITTED THAT RALPH ST. CLAIR DID GIVE DONNY RIDGEWAY MONEY WHEN DONNY TOOK JULIE ON THE DETOUR THROUGH ALABAMA WHERE RALPH SUBSEQUENTLY FORCIBLY RAPED HER. WOW! AND WOW!
To us it sounds like Donny pimped out his wife to get some money while Ralph raped Julie, his own flesh and blood daughter, AGAIN.
Of course, that's just our opinion of these allegations, but why would you go SO FAR OUT OF THE WAY to see ralph and joan when they will see you at the next mandatory bi-annual conference anyhow? Something just doesn't add up, until you consider the money exchanged for forced sex...
Thank God for every woman that comes forward to tell their story. They can try to dismiss them, but when an army of the abused stands up they will not be able to silence their voices. I hope steps are being made to bring charges against them and they are extradited to those states for a criminal trial. It would also be great if people like Nancy Grace, Bruce Smith or other journalists can work together to bring attention to this group.
Why didn't God stop these people? This is such a horrible thing to have happened. Lives were hurt. This explains so much about Julie while she was in NTCC. I now understand why she acted the way she did. It is so sad.
So this is why Julie went over to clean the Kekels' house so much? She always seemed out of sorts at class or church after she would have her day of cleaning their house. They made it no secret that she was going over to cleaning. She was made to cleaning other leaders' houses too. I wonder if she was being used for sex in those houses too. There is was so many red flags yet I was so busy obeying the leaders to notice what was happening to this young lady.
OMG!!! I just reading what happened to you Julie. I thought I was the only one. I cleaned his house a few times and one time he said some sexual things about my body. It made me feel uncomfortable. I thought I had misunderstood but I never went back to clean his house again. After I left NTCC it really bothered me and now you make me know I had good reason to not like that man. Thanks for sharing.
How dare Julie's mother react to her like this. I have heard her speak of Julie in a bad way but I am shocked that she decided to write on this blog her feelings. I don't know you Julie but other kids I have seen treated this way by their parents in NTCC it is just all wrong. Please know you deserve better treatment then what you were given. People receive bad treatment from others it is a part of life but to not be loved by your own parents that is got to be hard to fully overcome. We all need our parents love. I hope God gives you love from others to help in this area.
I am an adult my mother lets me live my life but she worries about me which makes me know I am special no matter what happens in life.
I cleaned M. Kekel's house before too. He hit me on the butt once. I went to Olson about it. M. Kekel claimed he bumped my butt accidently and nothing more was said. It bothered me but I thought I was in the wrong. This confirms I wasn't wrong. He hit my butt on purpose. I think he was testing to see what he could get away with before he tried more. I am disgusted by how far you got with you Julie.
Mike will deny most if not all of what he's said or done if brought before the "board". Of course, now who does he answer to?
We went before the board on something that was said over the pulpit and he flat out denied it. I knew then that he will lie his way out of a situation.
This is so sad. My wife told after we left NTCC that on a few occassions Michael Kekel's hand had slightly touched her butt when passing him. She was asked to clean his house but never did since he had made her nervous by the slight touching. She felt so guilty about it after leaving bible school. This might be why Michael never seemed to like me.
Anonymous said...
I cleaned M. Kekel's house before too. He hit me on the butt once. I went to Olson about it. M. Kekel claimed he bumped my butt accidently and nothing more was said. It bothered me but I thought I was in the wrong. This confirms I wasn't wrong. He hit my butt on purpose. I think he was testing to see what he could get away with before he tried more. I am disgusted by how far you got with you Julie.
Saturday, May 03, 2014 9:31:00 AM
DNA say,
Yes we're disgusted too. Sexual sadism, beatings, and rape are going too far!
Anonymous said...
This is so sad. My wife told after we left NTCC that on a few occassions Michael Kekel's hand had slightly touched her butt when passing him. She was asked to clean his house but never did since he had made her nervous by the slight touching. She felt so guilty about it after leaving bible school. This might be why Michael never seemed to like me.
Sunday, May 04, 2014 1:41:00 PM
DNA say,
Yeah. That's sad. Before NTCC we would not permit that. In NTCC we were mind-numbed and brainwashed robots who didn't think or act like free people normally would. We were controlled. And we suffered for it.
Anonymous said...
My wife told after we left NTCC that on a few occassions Michael Kekel's hand had slightly touched her butt when passing him. She was asked to clean his house but never did since he had made her nervous by the slight touching. She felt so guilty about it after leaving bible school. This might be why Michael never seemed to like me.
DNA say,
If you are a Christian, be sure that mikey-mike-kekel would NOT like you.
[1Jo 3:13 KJV] 13 Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you.
His touching your wife on the butt should make YOU not like mike...
[2Co 6:14 KJV] 14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?
Seriously. mike ain't Christian. Why do we say that? "Christian" means "Christ-like".
mike is NOT like Christ AT ALL.
Anonymous said...
I cleaned M. Kekel's house before too. He hit me on the butt once. I went to Olson about it. M. Kekel claimed he bumped my butt accidently and nothing more was said. It bothered me but I thought I was in the wrong. This confirms I wasn't wrong. He hit my butt on purpose. I think he was testing to see what he could get away with before he tried more. ...
DNA say,
That's rotten. Did you stay in the borg after that?
How did you feel about Olson's involvement?
Did Olson believe you at all?
Do you feel Olson knew already why you wanted to see him?
Do you think Olson was acting with kekel to cover up what kekel was doing?
Have you told your husband (assuming you are married since mostly only married women or children of staff ntccers clean kekels mansions)...
Now that you know you were right, how do you feel about all of it?
We agree that we also believe kekel was testing you to see if he could do more to you.
Anonymous said,
My wife told after we left NTCC that on a few occassions Michael Kekel's hand had slightly touched her butt when passing him. She was asked to clean his house but never did since he had made her nervous by the slight touching. She felt so guilty about it after leaving bible school
DNA say,
Thanks for the comment. Please let your wife know she should not feel guilty. The groper should feel guilt, shame, remorse, and maybe more until he repents (if that's even possible with someone as impenitent as mike kekel).
Your wife was taken advantage of and targeted by a sexual pervert.
She should not feel guilty. The pervert should.
One good thing we noticed--You got out of the NTCC. Good job on that. Congratulations on your freedom!
Another good thing - good job on feeling nervous and refusing to clean kekel's house. Trusting her instincts probably saved both of you much greater problems from that ol' predator mike the groper kekel!
Is all this affecting attendance in graham? I mean, considering that they have to do a pledge drive at the conference. Just wondering why would the org need one hundred thousand for. I thought the org had a fund in place. Kind of unusual that the founder died and didn't leave his estate to the org and now the org needs money
Seriously? Mikey has a $250,000.00 Mercedes McLaren SLR collecting dust in the garage and the borg is going to beg for $100,000 from the workers who live off hotdogs and ramen and jeopardize their lives and the lives of their families driving nonstop from the campground back to Washington in their oil puking junkers????
Better hold onto that offering money folks. It probably won't make it into the building fund. It'll probably be in some pimp's pocket or paying the bail for your ntcc pastah-pedophile so he can skip town and cross the border to Canada or fly to the Philippines. ...
DNA say,
That's rotten. Did you stay in the borg after that?
How did you feel about Olson's involvement?
Did Olson believe you at all?
Do you feel Olson knew already why you wanted to see him?
Do you think Olson was acting with kekel to cover up what kekel was doing?
Have you told your husband (assuming you are married since mostly only married women or children of staff ntccers clean kekels mansions)...
Now that you know you were right, how do you feel about all of it?
I say,
I am still in but strongly thinking of leaving after reading what Julie wrote. I know some people would say with everything else people have said that should have made me want to leave well sometimes some things are easier to bush over but what Julie went through is just so wrong. I am surprised Julie came on this blog and was able to trust you guys not to hurt her worse then she had already been hurt. That must have taken a lot of guts. You guys could have easily sailed her down for speaking out like this. What made you stand by her?
Rev. Olson didn't seem to believe me yet he didn't seem surprised by what I said. He did ask Rev. Kekel about it this is when Rev. Kekel claimed it was an accident. Rev. Olson treated me like I had overreacted. It left me feeling embarrassed for bring it up. What made my heart struggle is it was a little too firm for an accident in my mind but what is one to do he is suppose to be a man of God? No I haven't told my husband. I am scared of his reaction since I was treated like I was in the wrong for bring it up. I am not sure how I feel about what he did to me. What he did to Julie was clearly wrong. I am not sure what happened to me was wrong I go back and forth on it. If he was testing me to do what he did to Julie now that would be wrong by not sure if that is truly what he was doing. I am really confused right now and it is giving me a really bad headache. Don how would you react to someone doing that to your wife? Would you be upset at your wife or the guy or both?
Kekel would get knocked the hell out. Period, end of story. No actually, we would go to the police and file a formal complaint and push to get a warrant for his arrest for assault and if possible sexual in nature. If that didn't work he'd be dealt with.
Ange says,
I think most men would respond very passionately against Mike kekel for touching their wife's bottom; that's just not something that a person does-- especially not a person who claims to be a holiness preacher. You just don't go around sexually molesting other people.
Knowing now what we do that is alleged against Kekel it makes everyone's decision easier--how they would respond.
Back in the day however, most of us we're drinking the Kook-Aid and may have incorrectly given molester mike the benefit of the doubt; since we were trained to think those folks were 'men of Gawd'. But now we know that ain't true!
Kekel knows it too. That's why he turned his yellow-bellied tail and ran away that day an xer saw the kekels and davises in a big box store. That day it was every pervert for himself and every enabler for herself. They all tucked-tail and run!
At that time, the xer and his xer wife did not know how bad these pedophile posers were/are; but a guilty conscience needs no accuser. So the davises and kekels ran ran ran. Course this is all my opinion based on numerous allegations of kekel and davis raping little girls and beating little kids; but it sure does make them look guilty when they're that scared they just all slink away like snakes.
I published a new thread over on my blog. I think it's pretty telling. It's not for the weak minded or for people who are easily offended. If you are easily offended you might just want to leave it alone.
Chief
Click above to go to the new thread on Chief's Blog.
Ange said:
"I think most men would respond very passionately against Mike kekel for touching their wife's bottom; that's just not something that a person does-- especially not a person who claims to be a holiness preacher. You just don't go around sexually molesting other people."
Don says:
MDR almost Decked Kekel for a lot less than that. I can't imagine what I'd do if my wife reported that Kekel touched her inappropriately or if anyone I called a sister were to be violated in that fashion. It would be very hard to restrain from giving Kekel a beat down that he'd never forget. I think any normal guy would have the same feeling. That's my wife. Who do you think you are? I feel similar about Julie. I consider her to be a sister and a friend. When I think of what these sick lunatics did to her it makes me want to see them have justice served upon them in abundance. I am a law abiding citizen and I'm not into physical revenge, but if you ever wonder why we are so passionate about blogging and why we constantly remind people how dangerous and wicked the ntcc leadership is, there you have it.
If you are sitting back and doing nothing, you are part of the problem. We have people telling us all the time that we are wrong and we should do this, that or the next thing. We are doing the best we can to bring attention to the sick behavior of the ntcc leaders. The problem is that too many people are ignoring their behavior and doing nothing to change it. There are a few people that are standing for what is right but just about everyone in the ntcc is dying a slow death and many don't seem to care. Most people want to forget that they were ever a part of the ntcc. Others want to get their lives back and try to salvage something good from a bad situation. Many people have suffered like Julie and are being silent. They don't realize that their silence continues to enable people like Kekel to violate young women and while he is doing that, he is taking your money in hand over fist, as he prospers beyond reason. Hopefully those of you who read this will wake up and fight back. It's hard fighting this battle with just a few.
We appreciate all of the support and friendships we've made along the way, and we know there are many who have testified against the ntcc. Chief has been blogging for years and others have contributed in ways many will never know. If we fight this together there is strength in numbers. We hope others will join in and let their voices be heard.
Those of you in the ntcc you are in the best position to fight these tyrants. You need to start communicating with each other and sharing information. Educate yourselves so you can help one another. Read the bible and filter all of the ntcc doctrine through it. Make a list of doctrines that you are forced to live by and study each one without using the ntcc's brainwashed method of twisting God's word to mean something else. Look at the double standards. Do they preach one thing and do another? Do they tell you not to be alone with a member of the opposite sex, all the while they themselves are violating that rule? We really do care about you, but we can't help you if you don't want our help. We can't make you see the obvious, we can only point it out and hope you will take a close look.
I wonder if any mistresses were paid off with tithe dollars?
What do you think. Quite likely.
“The sadistic narcissist perceives himself as Godlike, ruthless and devoid of scruples, capricious and unfathomable, emotion-less and non-sexual, omniscient, omnipotent and omni-present, a plague, a devastation, an inescapable verdict.”
― Sam Vaknin
I got a good idea. Let's all just sit back and let the abuse continue. It's not you getting abused anymore and as long as Julie is allowed to be the scape goat, why should anyone else share testimony? Who cares if someone else gets molested, as long as it isn't me again? Who cares if someone's child gets beaten, as long as it isn't mine? Who cares if I saw things happening that could put these creeps away for years, Am I my brother's keeper? The rape victim that decides not to go to the police, allows that rapist to continue destroying lives. The victim of attempted murder that stays silent might save their own hide but what about the other future victims that the serial murderer commits because that one person was only concerned with themselves?
We know that there are a lot of people out there that know details, but they are afraid to share. I understand that this stuff is deeply personal and that it hurts to relive it. I will say this. The truth needs to come out. As long as people keep it inside, it festers like a disease and there will never be peace. I know this for a fact because I kept it all inside for so many years and was miserable until I shared the information publicly.
Justice must be done and if it is suppressed the criminals will certainly continue to prosper and there will always be more victims.
As long as people like Olson, Ashmore, Johnson and others participate in and cover up the sins of Kekel and Davis, there will continue to be victims. I know that many of you don't want to entertain the thought of the enablers actually participating in the abuse, but if they don't object to it, there is a reason. I know it sounds like I'm beating a dead mule, and there are many that have come forward and shared. We appreciate that and we are committed to putting an end to the abuse. We are grateful that Julie has made up her mind to stay the course and she continues to shed so much light on what the ntcc is all about. I wish she didn't have to do it alone. I've spilled my guts but it's old news. Many people out there have important details that would validate Julie's testimony, and place these sick ntcc perverts in check.
So many people want us to go about this in a more 'discreet' manner. The ntcc was never discreet about some of the trash they drug us through, but our voices are being stifled, by doubt. The ntcc is praying that all of this will die down and go away. They don't think that we have the stomach to fight this war, but if we don't rise to the occasion, who will? We remain in the trenches and we are committed to bringing justice to the cult leaders and sexual predators in the ntcc. We are not asking for anyone to lie or make things up. The truth will suffice but if you keep it all inside, who knows how many others will end up suffering, because the truth remained a secret?
HOW DARE RALPH AND JOAN ST. CLAIR EVEN CALL THEMSELVES CHRISTIANS....THEY MAKE ME WANT TO VOMIT. NOT ONLY DO PEOPLE LIKE THEM...AND THE SO CALLED "MEN OF GOD" AT NTCC GIVE CHRISTIANS A BAD NAME---EVEN WORSE, THEY ARE A DISGRACE TO MANKIND PERIOD. THE ABUSE AND LIES THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE AT NTCC IS ENOUGH TO BLOW MY MIND. I'M ABSOLUTELY APPALLED AND SICKENED BY THE LIES AND COVER-UPS OF THESE SICK MEN. I PERSONALLY HOPE THAT THEY ALL ROT IN JAIL. AS A MATTER OF FACT, I HOPE THEY NOT ONLY ROT IN JAIL, BUT THAT THE INMATES TEACH THEM A LESSON OR TWO ABOUT WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO BE RAPED AND SEXUALLY ABUSED-- THEN THEY CAN SEE HOW IT FEELS!!!!!!
Maybe some are thinking what they experienced isn't as bad as what Julie and the others went through. Maybe even with other pastors. The knowledge that you would be seen as someone who is speaking against a man of God who does no wrong and would be chastised for it if you tried to talk to someone about it hurts the soul.
Please click on the link above and ask yourself if Tanya's comment to Grant is normal. For a woman that arranges alone time for her husband to rape disabled underage girls, you have to ask, is it normal for her to say, "U gorgeous thing U, xoxoxos" to her son? I'm starting to wonder if this incest problem was confined to Ralph and Joan and Fontenot? We know that incestual relationships were swept under the carpet by Davis. Underage sex and rape were participated in by McKekel and Davis according to multiple testimonies that are public and some that have not been shared publicly.
I have never heard a grown woman refer to her 20 year old son as "U gorgeous thing U, xoxoxos". I've heard older people say, that's a handsome young man, but this comment is something you would say to your husband, wife or Boy/Girl friend. Am I out here on an island, or is this abnormal? Would love to hear some input on this one.
Happy Mother's Day!
Yeah, kind of over the top.
I don't think a guy wants to be gorgeous! Gorgeous? Really?
Don't get it. But I never got their ways of thinking.
So glad she's enjoying her stay in St. Louis . While the rest haven't spent Mother's Day with their mom for years and years.
It's creepy enough just to have your mom jump into an adult conversation with friends on Facebook. Never in my life have I heard of a mother referring to their twenty year old son as "U gorgeous thing, U". Extremely weird and begs the question, "Why"? Thanks for commenting. Still looking for someone that might have some insight into making a comment like this. Is it normal? I loved my mother a lot. We were very close, but the affection shown was never inappropriate. My mom would never embarrass me publicly like that and she would never cross that weird, creepy boundary, using husband and wife sex talk publicly or privately.
DNA said...
Please click on the link above and ask yourself if Tanya's comment to Grant is normal. For a woman that arranges alone time for her husband to rape disabled underage girls, you have to ask, is it normal for her to say, "U gorgeous thing U, xoxoxos" to her son? I'm starting to wonder if this incest problem was confined to Ralph and Joan and Fontenot?
Julie says....
That is just beyond disgusting. My son is Grant's age and I could not in a million years make that kind of remark about him. She has done that with young guys in their twenties bible school students as well and even GI that were at the church in Tillicum. It is all wrong but doing it to your son that just makes me want to puke. My stomach is turning just thinking of it. I asked someone that has three grown boys and never been in NTCC what she thought about it. She was shocked that it would be okay to talk to her own son like that.
YUCK YUCK YUCK!!!!
It sounds like Mike and Tanya's marriage is a front for money they are sexually after anyone but each other.
It is no wonder they buddy up with who they do they find the young the better even if it is their own children. And they think I am the mental case of the year.
What is really scary is Grant might think it is normal considering how he was raise. Does he even know what is normal behavior?
Hugs,
Julie
YIKES!!!! That is just weird to talk to your child young or old that way. If I said that to my child they would disown me in a heartbeat. I would freak out if my mother talked to me like this.
How many more men got a hold of Julie during her time in NTCC? I am so angry that this happened to her. She was such a loving and gentle person. She always so obedient. My head aches at the thought of all this. They used her gentle personality to their advantage. She never shared details of what was going but she would say things that should have been a red flags. She seemed to be terrified of certain people it was strange. I mean I was scared of the leaders but her fear of some of the other ministers just didn't make sense. Also she would make comments about being dirty bad and she said she was a mistake she shouldn't have been born. Her relationship with Mrs. St. Clair always seemed strange. Mrs. St. Clair didn't seem to treat her as a person more like an object. Okay I have to go I am so angry at this point.
This all sounds pretty surreal, but you can see the pattern. Kekel dating a pubescent Tanya and having groping parties prior to her being married around 18. Then however long it takes for the new car smell to wear off, he's trying to find someone young and vulnerable. She goes unfilled and may have been with others herself. Then in some twisted over doting you could see an Oedipus complex emerging. Definitely weird to say that to your son.
I've become very sarcastic about this whole thing. The problem is, NTCC people will still refer to Kekel as "the man of God" and he's anything but. The NTCC does such a good job programing and brainwashing their people, they no longer can even rationalize with their own brains. All they are worried about is, "I've been with the NTCC all these years, so if I leave now, what am I supposed to do"? "Where am I supposed to go"?
And that's where the NTCC's got ya. They got you right where they want you. You know nothing else. You are ashamed about your family finding out that you left the quote, "last hope for mankind". So instead of leaving, you stick around for no other reason but to save face and consequently, in the end, you are of no use whatsoever to God. You are no better than any other "sinner" but you are actually even worse. You are a hypocrite. God prefers sinners over hypocrites. The Bible makes that clear. Kekel is a dirt bag and his wife is warped. Olson is way out there and a big time double standard hypocrite. The whole NTCC leadership is warped. I wouldn't have anything to do with any of them. NTCC people are suckers and most of them will continue to remain suckers. It's in their genes. Follow the leader and remain blind as a bat.
Chief
After all this, how can an ntcc pastor preach against fornication, adultry, covetouness?
There are those that have a story or information that shows that Julie wasn't the only one yet you are scared to come forward. I have a song to share with you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQjXofJzx60
May you let it out and the healing will truly begin.
When we left, I told every one in my family, those I work with, many who knew me when we were, "in," that I spent all those years under thier control, that what started out as Godly, and holy, became increasingly more corrupt, and more controlling, until we had enough.
At the time, I knew nothing of this filth, and the disgusting behavior that Julie, and others have brought to light. I would have called the POLICE, or THE SHERIFF,
Had I known!
Now I tell every one of the sexual perversion Of these creaps, and that this is not Christianity. THAT IS BRINGING GLORY TO GOD, because these people see CHRIST, in my life.
Jesus always stood against the hypocrites, and rebuked them. That is what these ladies have done, and this blog has given them a voice. SHOUT IT FROM THE HOUSE TOPS!
Throughout all of history, and in every nation, all of the man made religions, and phoney religious "leaders" were highly regarded, and admired. Thier faults, are never exploited. Never exposed.
ONLY The Word of God, exposes the failures, and sins, of the characters whose lives, and stories are shared, so that we may learn from thier failures.
That is why we stand with Julie, and Lisa, and Pam, and countless others who have been abused, and discarded.
These people hide behind thier self righteous concept, and throw stones at those of us who realized our own need to escape thier control.
We have found freedom in Christ, by leaving them. "He whom The Son hath made free, is free indeed!!!"
Click the title to watch the video.
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