Review of previous posts:
In 1990, at the ripe old age of 16, Julie was forced into an arranged marriage with Donny Ridgeway who was an NTCC minister 7-8 years older than she was [ more ]. Consequently, the couple was moved from Donny's place of ministry in San Antonio, TX to Washington state so Julie could attend the NTCC version of Bible School. During this time, Julie alleges, Michael C. Kekel raped her at his custom house on the NTCC Seminary Campus in Graham, Washington. When word of Julie's abuse got back to the board members, they were furiously angry at Julie and moved the Ridgeways [Donny and Julie] back to San Antonio in what we see as an attempt to hide Kekel's raping her and to discredit Julie [ here ].
In 1992 when she was 18 years old, Julie alleges, she was again raped by Kekel, this time at the NTCC National Campground in Monroe County, Missouri. The woman who gave Julie a ride back to the hotel after this rape shared what she had seen and how she tried to question Kekel about what had happened and was angrily rebuffed and later dealt with by both Rodger Davis and Ralph St. Clair; (which was odd since Julie had been married to Ridgeway for two years) [ here ]. During this same conference in the fall of 1992, Julie alleges, her so-called 'father', Ralph St. Clair, also raped Julie at her hotel room while her husband Donny Ridgeway was out with their infant son Thomas and while Ralph's wife Joan - Julie's so-called 'mother' - rested in the St. Clairs' hotel room. Perhaps that is why Ralph St. Clair confronted the woman who had given Julie the ride back to the hotel; perhaps Ralph was afraid that Julie had mentioned his raping her to this woman?
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| NTCC's 'Darling Couple' Ralph and Joan St. Clair. They seem to work together to rape Julie. And the Kekels Reward Them with a free trip to the 2014 conference in an odd show of love? |
In 1993, once again at the NTCC Campground in Monroe County, Missouri, Julie alleges that, Kekel grabbed her in front of Davis, Ashmore, and Olson - all NTCC Board Members - who allegedly did not question Mike. Kekel then raped Julie as described [ here ]. After this rape in which no one came to Julie's aid, despite others being present, the Ridgeways returned to San Antonio until Kekel once again summoned Julie to return to the NTCC Bible School in Graham, Washington. This is where we begin this post:
September, 1994
He [ mike kekel ] leaves me alone until I moved back to Washington to continue stupid pill school or as I use to call it as a child “The Cemetery”
When Kekel decided it was time to move me back. I am stressed out. I want to share with someone the fear I was feeling. I was scared. What would happen? Would I get more spanks? Would I have to have sex again with others? I started being snappy to everyone around me making the move an unpleasant thing. I want to disappear or die. I didn’t want to go.
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| San Antonio, TX to Graham, WA Direct Route is 2,163 miles by automobile. As pictured here in the blue route Alabama is off the chart. |
We leave Texas, we stop to visit with Ralph and Joan in Alabama on the way to Washington. I think I will be able to avoid Ralph no such luck. They sent Donny on an errand for some reason. Joan decides she is going off with Thomas. I am really upset I don’t want Thomas out of my sight. Ralph doesn’t give me a chose. I must stay and help him. We were alone. He says it is time. I need you to give unto me. He strips me of my clothes and forces himself on me. I am sick to my stomach stress of these actions send me to the bathroom to puke after he is done. I am relieved he had no other opportunity to get a hold of me while in Alabama. I want to tell but fear keeps me silent. I am in the kitchen helping cook dinner later the same night. Joan makes a comment. She said did you make Ralph (can’t say the other word) happy today? I was puzzled by her comment then but I think she knew what had happened. I told her I hated him. She slaps me saying I needed to respect my elders. I am lucky to have such a loving and caring person in my life a lot of people would give anything to have such a man in their lives. Puke.
Summary and Analysis Thus Far:
In September 1994, after being summoned by Kekel to return to the Bible School in Graham, Washington, the Ridgeways, Donny and Julie with young son Thomas, leave San Antonio, Texas. They stop in Birmingham, Alabama - a strange route to go on the way to Washington. Using conservative route estimates this "detour" added 1,242 extra miles and an extra day or two* of drive time to their already long trip - *(17 hours - see both maps for times and mileage) . While visiting the St. Clairs, whom they already see twice a year at the required ministers' conferences, Donny is sent out, Joan takes Thomas against Julie's wishes and despite her protests, and Ralph once again forces himself on Julie, causing her such distress she actually pukes after being forcibly raped by this cretin who is supposed to be her 'father' - but instead treats her as an object or thing to be used.Joan and Ralph St. Clair, and maybe, just maybe, Julie's own husband Donny Ridgeway (?) all appear to be implicated in this rape by either being the rapist [ralph] or by their sheer willingness to look the other way and conveniently disappear when the monster wants to attack Julie one more time, just like what had happened at the Missouri hotel during the 1992 conference when ralph raped Julie.
Now, Julie has never once in this e-mail said anything negative about Donny Ridgeway. She has talked with us about maintaining a relationship with the father of her beloved son Thomas. But as we read these accounts, we had to question how this older man could have been so blind as to not notice or suspect anything amiss with his young bride.
Several people have commented that upon meeting Julie for the first time they felt troubled that something was wrong in her life; but they didn't know what. Shouldn't the man married to her sense something too? After all, he is ~ 7-8 years older than Julie. And even by NTCC standards, as her husband, he is considered to be responsible for her welfare. Couldn't he sense that something was wrong? If not, why not? Was this the reason why Donny was hand-picked by the organization to marry Julie when she was only 16 years old back in 1990 and he was 23 - 24 years old (in the standard NTCC fashion of marrying off young teens to adult men)? Did the NTCC leaders know they could control this man and how he thought and how he treated his young bride? It all seems so odd to us.
San Antonio, Texas to Graham, Washington via Birmingham, Alabama - Why? Why take this huge detour when you already see the St. Clairs twice a year?
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| San Antonio, TX to Graham, WA via Birmingham, Alabama? That's 3,405 miles by one route. The extra mileage is a long way out of route. Why would you do that? You already see each other twice a year at conferences. That's more face time than most NTCCers get with their families. |
Conclusion:
Everyone in the NTCC is subject to the whims of the borg leaders and expected to move from state to state on a moment's notice. But why would you stop through Alabama on the way to Washington when the St. Clairs will already see you twice a year at the semi-annual ministers' conferences? It did raise a question for us. Only God knows the answer. But we had to ask just the same.
Everyone in the NTCC is subject to the whims of the borg leaders and expected to move from state to state on a moment's notice. But why would you stop through Alabama on the way to Washington when the St. Clairs will already see you twice a year at the semi-annual ministers' conferences? It did raise a question for us. Only God knows the answer. But we had to ask just the same.
Even more troubling was Joan's questioning of Julie later that night. She asked her "did you make Ralph (can’t say the other word) happy today?" Now why would Joan ask that unless she knew that Ralph had raped Julie? We don't have the answers; and we bear no malice for anyone, unlike Ralph, who allegedly raped Julie, and Joan, who allegedly slapped Julie. This information is so disturbing we had to make it an individual blog post of its own. Next week we hope to discuss the Ridgeways Return To Washington in September of 1994.
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45 comments:
That is the question of the hour. Why would a guy not sense that anything was amiss with his wife? This story seems to get worse because the characters portrayed one face to the church goers and another behind our backs!
I still have Joan's laugh ingrained in my memory every time rwd would tell a joke in the conference and sure enough her chortled kind of laugh would resonate in the whole building and people would look at each other and feel uneasy because she had this weird kind of laugh.
It is kind of strange that they were able to do that detour to Alabama. For the most part we all who are a familiar with moving within the org we are instructed to go and not stop anywhere . There's been changes to this rule but in the year that Julie is describing the rules were still very stringent and something is not making sense.
Julie you must really hate your life. I feel sorry for you. I would hate to be you. I can't imagine not having family that cared.
I don't think Julie hates her life now. Maybe she did when she was in the org under the predators beck and call, but she doesn't give the impression that she hates her life for not having a family.
Whoever wrote this probably doesn't understand that julie is free now from all that hell she lived for so many years! Who wouldn't be? Who would want to have relationship with parents that gave you a hellish living like the stclaires did to Julie?
The stclaires need to resign their pastorate and kekel needs to man up and clear all these accusations .
Any rational person would use the court to clear his name specially a Christian one and leader of an organization !
Anonymous said,
"...Any rational person would use the court to clear his name specially a Christian one and leader of an organization !"
DNA say,
Your statement presumes innocence. Since kekel has not sought to clear his name, his lack of action indicates GUILT.
No so-called leader of a so-called church wants his EVIL DEEDS BROUGHT TO LIGHT.
That's my guess why kekel behaves so oddly, blathering about being spawned by a rapist, trying to call Julie "feeble-minded" in one breath and then claiming she masterminds the breaking up of families: as if she is some wily seductress, after years of kekel, davis and the st. clairs allegedly calling her "dumb, ugly, retard" and other derogatory names.
As usual we see the liars talking out of both sides of their mouths!
kekel needs to man up and clear all these accusations .
Any rational person would use the court to clear his name specially a Christian one and leader of an organization !
How can he clear what he is guilty of doing or are you thinking he is innocent just trying to follow your thinking? As far as being rational I don't think Rev. Kekel knows how to be rational. He doesn't have Rev. Davis to calm him down so he seems to be running off people these days. Reading all this makes me realize this hasn't been a christian organization from day one. I am glad you say the St. Clairs didn't treat Julie. I saw only a little of how they were with Julie enough to know they didn't enjoy having her as their child but were totally proud of John St. Clair their son. She was an embarrassment. These were her mother's words of Julie as a 13 and 14 year old. That is just wrong to say of one's child.
Anonymous said...
Julie you must really hate your life. I feel sorry for you. I would hate to be you. I can't imagine not having family that cared.
I agree with you I wouldn't want to be Julie either. I think I would be depressed and would hate life. How could one enjoy it after going through all that, being disabled, and being alone to boot. I am thankful for my life and that I don't have NTCC in it or reminders of it either.
Tina said...
Anonymous said...
Julie you must really hate your life. I feel sorry for you. I would hate to be you. I can't imagine not having family that cared.
I agree with you I wouldn't want to be Julie either. I think I would be depressed and would hate life. How could one enjoy it after going through all that, being disabled, and being alone to boot. I am thankful for my life and that I don't have NTCC in it or reminders of it either.
DNA say,
Julie has plenty in her life and it is only going to get better.
ntcc and their rapists tried to break her, but God has a better plan for His daughter.
Julie you must be angry at your I think if I am following your writing correctly ex-husband. I have to say back when I last remember seeing you your son was about 3 or 4 and though your ex-husband seemed very nice though I feel he belittled you like you were not the most important person in his life. He insulted you one time at conference and everyone just laughed yet you stared with a blank look didn't even pretend to laugh as most women did. It was strange but it was NTCC.
I hope Julie gets a hold of those attorneys and takes these people to court. The last thread had phone numbers to attorneys who it seemed she should be contacting. Prosecutors I think. The blog is great for sure but it is only as good as the results and guys like Rev Kekel have been flying below the radar for too long and it's time someone with information like Julie has puts a stop to it.
R. St Clair needs to be tossed behind bars also. What a hypocrite. I despise people like that. The ntcc is nothing more than a front.
Don and Ange why is Julie so important to you? Why would you want to help people as her? Some victims I get like Lisa Pam but why Julie? It doesn't make sense.
Carl, Why not Julie?
Carl, What do you mean "people as her?"
Sister Julie,
what an amazing testimony that you were able to live for God after this nightmare.
i too was sexually abused and raped by my father. i finally told my mother, then she confided in a friend. my mother refused to tell the authorities so her friend told for her.
i had to testify in court as an 8 year old and it sucked. my mother had me lie about some of the assaults on the stand, so my father ended up getting a lighter sentence.
julie I hope you write a book about your life. it is an incredible testimony of how God was able keep you and use for His purpose.
Redeemed,
Thanks for your comment. It truly shows how this happens to many children and yet the adults suppress the truth.
We are sorry this bad stuff happened to you. We are thankful your mother's friend did the right thing. We can only imagine how hard that was having to testify. You must be one strong individual.
You're right. Julie's life would make an excellent book (or more) and movie (or more). If that happens I hope she becomes wealthy from it to compensate for all her suffering.
Her life is inspirational and would lead many to Christ.
Speaking of Christ, look at Him:
And his fame went throughout all Syria: and they brought unto him all sick people that were taken with divers diseases and torments, and those which were possessed with devils, and those which were lunatick, and those that had the palsy; and he healed them. - Matt 4:24 KJV
Now when the sun was setting, all they that had any sick with divers diseases brought them unto him; and he laid his hands on every one of them, and healed them. - Luke 4:40 KJV
From the thread about the 1992 Fall Conference:
Anonymous said...
Oh this is what happened that day.... I was to take her to the motel...
DNA say,
First of all, thanks for your comment. If we didn't tell you already, your comment means a lot to us. That's why we put it into the main body of the blog post.
Secondly, do you remember what motel you took Julie to? Or even which town it was in? Thanks. DNA
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Carl, I'm just not buying the excuse you are giving. I could explain it to you, but you already know what your issue is.
Try asking Jesus to forgive you for your sins. Ask Him to be your God. You will be amazed at the instant heart of love He would give to you, should you dare to pray.
There you go Carl. Doesn't confession feel good? You've admitted why you stumble at anyone loving Julie.
However, you can overcome your small-mindness and wicked ways. Just ask Jesus to forgive you your sins. It's as easy as meaning that prayer.
Oh, and Carl, to answer your question, "Yes. I have." However this is not a problem for me. If you read the scriptures already posted you would realize that it is not a problem for Jesus either. So why is it a problem for you? That seems so -- small? limited? selfish? insecure? weak?
True love places others first. You may want to try it. The Lord teaches it is more blessed to give than to receive. Please think about it Carl. You don't have to remain the failure you appear to be in your statements. Perhaps God is calling you to better things? A life above petty fear and prejudice. You might be an awesome human. But right now you seem to be lacking Christ.
RAINN.ORG
STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS
Alabama rape,
Ala. Code § 15-3-1 Felonies
For all felonies, within three years after commission of the offense
Ala. Code § 15-3-2 Misdemeanors
For all misdemeanors, within one year after commission of the offense
Ala. Code § 15-3-5
No time limit for the prosecution of:
Any capital offense
Any felony involving the use of, attempted use of, or threat of, violence to a person
Any felony involving serious physical injury or death of a person
Any sex offense involving a victim under 16 years of age, regardless of whether it involves force or serious physical injury or death
Kirby v. State, 500 So. 2d 79, 80 (Ala. Crim. App. 1986)
No time limit for the offense of rape because rape is classified for limitations purposes as an offense which may be punished capitally; therefore, statute of limitations for felony offenses does not apply to rape. See also Chamblee v. State, 527 So.2d 173, 174 (Ala. Crim. App. 1988)
Dear Puzzled,
We think there is an obvious explanation to your questions. Since joan st. clair lied and said she did not even have a daughter, it is obvious that joan is lying.
Does that clear things up?
Wow this story just gets more horrible. Julie thanks to you are family left a few weeks ago. I am glad we did as this story continues to unfold I would have been sorry I didn't listen the first time I read what happened to you.
Julie you have inspired me to go on with life. The fact that you put God first and honor Him amazes me. I prayed for the first time in 5 years 6 weeks truly with all my heart. Sometimes when you comment I can feel the presence of God. It is like you really walk and talk with him.
I want to share a song with you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIAdgLR1ZGw
Julie you are one of the biggest hearted individuals I know. You always give and like to share your blessings with others. You made me smile which I haven't done in a long time. You really make me believe God truly cares about me personally with you giving to me.
This is what comes to mind when I think of you. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4p9CdXCPWE
Julie you love like no one I ever knew in my entire life. Your compassion is shocking. I am amazed that you were raised by Mrs. St. Clair because you are loving and real not fake as she is to some people. I can't figure out how you can be like this. What made you even know to be different you were raised in the middle of chaos being bounced all around yet here you are so different from NTCC?
Julie seems like a Godly woman. Christ is first in her life and she cares about others over herself. She is faithful to God so why doesn't God heal her? Don or Ange can you answer this question. I don't think it is a failure on Julie's part so I am puzzled by this.
How did you Don and Ange become friends with Julie? It is so hard after NTCC to make friends. Julie didn't seem to come on as a commenter she went straight in to posting so I would assume you knew her before this outside of the blog. With what NTCC has done to trust between people how did you know to trust her? Julie comes across as a great person so this is not anything about her personally I am just trying to understand friendships outside of NTCC.
Why go to Alabama? Even if you did go to Missouri that would still not make sense because if you went to Missouri after Alabama that would have been a wasted trip since you would have seen sex freak mom and dad at the conference. So this is very strange. Did Donny get money from said mom and dad? Did Davis pay him for dragging Julie there? I am sure Julie would have no answers the way the men treated her? No I am not against men I am a man myself I am just upset that Julie was treated this way. It is so uncalled for no matter how your slice the cake.
This is so sad. I am sure with how much and how long this abuse went on that there is memories Julie has yet to share even with Don and Ange or she has even remember at this point. Julie you are so brave. You are an example to us all. How can your parents have done this to you? I never cared much for your parents but you I was very confused about. Let me explain. You cared about people you gave loved never asking for anything in return yet you seem so sad distressed, and empty I just couldn't figure it out. You did yell get angry or act unkind to another yet your parents had no problem stabbing in the back if it saved or benefited them. You were a gentle soul this is shocking you didn't have God at the time.
Don and Ange why do you get to choose what comments get published when this is Julie's post? I don't think you are trying do anything bad just am concerned not wanting Julie controlled after all she has been through. You have published all my comments so it isn't personal I just want Julie to have freedom to choose now that she knows NTCC can't control her anymore. I know you care no doubt there.
I'll tell you what is obvious. It's obvious by the numerous testimonies made by people who've known the St. Clairs that the St. Clairs don't want people to know they even have a daughter. That is sick. To forsake your own children? Real sick. And Ashmore did something very similar. Ange knows more about it but he didn't even want a picture of (I believe it was his) grand child displayed in a serviceman's home. Ange has posted something about it years ago and some relative of the child literally called me and asked that the post be taken down because they were all ashamed of the child and something having to do with the way the child was conceived. Ange knows all about it. These people get into these creepy relationships in the NTCC like R. St. Clair having sex with his own daughter and Ralph's wife being a part of it and they'd rather that people not know that Julie even exists. Like I said, Ashmore is the same kind of creep minus the sex with his own child part.
The NTCC is nothing but a big cover up in so many respects. Everything revolves around secrecy. These people like Ashmore and the St. Clairs don't even want people knowing about their children and grand children and I know that for an absolute fact. The lady called be basically begging me to take the information down from my blog. A little adultery here, a little incest there and these NTCC creeps don't want you to know about anything because they are nothing, I repeat "NOTHING" but a bunch of fakes.
Chief.
I wonder if there is anyone left in the organization that will do the right thing. It's not that difficult of a decision to make. Now would be a good time to start voting people out. That's right, the organzation was formed in Missouri, and all of the members of ntcc are granted the right to vote your corrupt leaders out. It's a shame that someone from the outside has to point this out to you, but you have a right to vote your church leaders in or out. They gave up the right to silence you when they got greedy and decided that they didn't want to pay taxes and became a nonprofit corporation. Now, the current regime is not going to invite you to have a vote, but if you at some point decide that you don't want your organization to be run by a child molesting pervert, you need to get in touch with the Secretary of State, (Missouri), and tell them that you are a member of a 'church' that is being led by corrupt sexual deviants, and you have been denied the right to have a vote. By not having a public vote for these officials, they have denied you the right to vote them in or vote them out.
It's up to you pastors and long time members and church leaders if you want to answer to someone like Kekel who has not denied his involvement in the alleged rape of Julie. Do any of you "men of God" feel like God wants you to receive your instructions from Kekel? How about the ones that have covered for Kekel and Davis? Do you want Olson who has run people off for reporting incidents of child rape and molestation, saying they need 3 witnesses, and that they need to find another church? What about Ashmore who ran off Lisa when she was 15 and pregnant, so they could hide the sins of Davis and Johnny Jordan?
I really have to question the salvation and profession of being called into the ministry by God of any of you preachers that are ignoring what has happened and not taking any actions to do the right thing. Since they are not denying any of this, than they are hoping that it all goes away. Guess what? It's not going away, not while I have a breath in me. I'm not seeking the total dismantlement of the ntcc, nor do I wish physical harm on anyone. That's a difficult thing to say, when you think of what Julie had to go through and others that were violated by this regime of pedophiles and perverts.
All of you that call yourselves men of God and feel that God has called you to preach to a lost and dying world, please consider this. Does God want you telling people how to dress, when the leaders of the organization are raping children? Do you think God is more concerned about a woman wearing makeup than he is about a young girl getting raped by her father while the ntcc leaders are allowing that predator to stay in their filthy organization? Do you think God is more concerned about a woman working on a job than he is about a 15 year old girl that was abandoned by her biological incubator Barbara Norton, to become responsible for having to help raise her disabled brother who was also abandoned by Barbara Norton at Davis' request, so that a known sex offender could be hidden in Washington and Davis rape of Pam Norton would be forgotten about?
The ntcc was born in corruption and was used as a front by some very sexually disturbed people to hide behind the honest and true Christians, and get rich by conning them out of their money. Do you really think God wants any of his servants to give them another dime of His money? It's God's money, not Kekel's, not Olson's, not Ashmore's. They have destroyed the weak, and gratified themselves by helping themselves to children or they have covered up the sins of those who have done these evil deeds. They have no love for Jesus, if they did they would love His children that were created in His image.
I am so sorry this grieves my heart. Thank you God for this blog we might not have ever known without it.
Julie how in the world did you find the guts to speak out? I don't think I could do it. You are so humble and example to us all of what a Christian should be yet you suffered so greatly. Yet instead of a pity-party you lift up Jesus for the world to see.
May all that read your story look to Jesus so that they can too be free in every way.
Further more, if you all sit back and do nothing, you will become accomplices and enablers just like Olson and Ashmore. If you pay your tithes to these corrupt leaders you are enabling them to continue to molest and abuse young children, you are enabling them to commit adultery and to continue preaching double standards that require you to live by the letter of the law, which is not God's law, but their own, while they get rich on your tithe dollars and laugh at you for being idiots.
If you can't see this for what it is, than you are blind and need an eye doctor and a shrink to get your eyes and mind coordinated so you can see how foolish it is to continue enabling these corrupt men with your obedience and giving. Come on now, if you were to be honest with yourself and with anyone on the outside of this organization, and spill your guts and tell them everything you've gone through, you know anyone in their right mind would say, you've been scammed and conned out of your money by a bunch of religious hucksters, and scam artists. HOLY SHAMWOW!!!!! They did a number on you, and us too, we just woke up and opened our eyes and started using our brains.
Stop playing church and get real. If you really think that Kekel deserves to live in a million dollar mansion and have women cleaning his house every weekend so he can lust after, fondle, commit adultery with and even rape those who are young enough, than you need to have your head examined. All of the standards that Davis and Kekel have preached throughout the years are out the window. Who cares about dressing modestly, or not being alone in the same room with a member of the opposite sex, or having to ask permission to talk to a woman when the leaders are part of a sexual ring that uses and abuses women whenever they get horny and feel like their needs can't be met by the wife that God gave them? Are you serious? Your going to preach holiness and expect women to dress like the Quaker Oatmeal Girl, while you are visiting whorehouses and raping young girls?
You all need to start all over and get back to the basics. Stop worrying about how people dress and who they talk to or who they visit. You all need a good dose of salvation.
Nancy Grace Host: Aired, April 21, 2014. POLICE HUNT MINNESOTA PASTOR FOR SEX CFRIMES.
An incredible story that's almost hard to believe. A Christian Church with a huge following caught in the mix of parents, churchgoers, and police. A Charismatic Pastor calls on the church to mimic biblical scripture and hand over there girls as young as 12. Pastor Victor Barnard repetedly molest them every single day for 10 years. Most of them never knowing a normal life, the parents went along with this convinced its the word of God. Legal eagles think the parents should go to jail along with him. Sounds familiar?
I'm putting myself in these preacher's shoes. Unless you have a Gideon character and really want to do something for God then you will confront the leadership but you and I know that won't happen.
First, if you are a pastor in the ntcc that means that you are renting their church and the minute you start asking question they'll bid you goodbye and will throw out of their building or like rw one time threatened this pastor: if you don't have money to pay the bills we'll find a man who can!
So these pastors are downtrodden and don't have the balls to stand up to anybody even if their wife or daughter were been raped in front of them.
Did sinclair lure Ridgeway to Alabama with cash? Bring Julie here Donny and I'll give you the greenbacks to get to Washingtn.
Why lure somebody from so far just to get some? Doesn't make sense.
Nancy Grace Host: Aired, April 21, 2014. POLICE HUNT MINNESOTA PASTOR FOR SEX CFRIMES.
The following link might be interessting to see:
http://www.hlntv.com/video/2014/04/21/victor-barnard-pastor-sex-victim-robbed-childhood
http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2014/04/15/pine-co-minister-faces-59-counts-of-sex-abuse-nationwide-warrant-issued/
this might be informative too!
Anonymous thank you for the story and video info from the Nancy Grace program. People can click here to see both. The testimony of the victim sounds so familiar, how she lost her childhood. The excuses her parents gave and reactions, how they treated her also sounded just like the horrible excuses that babs norton has used and that joan and ralph st. clair use trying to justify their abuse of their children. It seems the same devil has been whispering to all of those abusers and negligent parents.
As Nancy Grace admonishes at the end of the video,
Parents protect your children!
Alabama Thread:
We just learned from a reliable source who heard it out of his own mouth, that
DONNY RIDGEWAY ADMITTED THAT RALPH ST. CLAIR DID GIVE DONNY RIDGEWAY MONEY WHEN DONNY TOOK JULIE ON THE DETOUR THROUGH ALABAMA WHERE RALPH SUBSEQUENTLY FORCIBLY RAPED HER.
WOW! AND WOW!
So Ridgeway pimped his teen bride to her daddy? Money for incest. NTCC at it's finest.
Carl, this is my third reply to your assinine questions to Don and Ange as to why they feel Julie is so important to them and why would they want to help her?
Your question tell me you are a scum sucking troll or more likely you are one of her physical /emotional /or sexual abusers. I bet on the later.
Julie was born as an innocent, beautiful and perfect creation of God. It was her parents and leaders of NTCC that stole her innocence but never her loving heart, her beauty, nor her perfection as a creation of Christ.
You will never understand (due to a hardened heart) why many more than just Don and Ange love and support her. Agape' love is beyond your comprehension.
Now go crawl under your bridge and report back to your leadership that we are here to stay AND nothing untoward better never happen to Julie. We have your numbers.
Joan B.
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