The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them. - Isa 11:6 KJV
While the scripture reference leading into this topic depicts an idyllic world, the video speaks to the life of horror lived by too many NTCC children. Without a voice, without power or representation, these children become objects to those who should instead love and protect them. The violators tear down the very ones that God charged them with raising up. The abusers beat the children they should love and cherish and nurture. Having no other example, no exposure to T.V., no public schooling, and only interacting with other cult member families, these children, as all children do, imitate what they have learned at home and church. Here Lisa Norton describes in some comments what she learned from the individual who gave birth to her - we just cannot describe barbaric barbara norton warwick as a mother; for she in no way resembles one. And Lisa Norton's life-long friend, Lori Kelley bears witness to what happened back then.
Lisa said...
Legs go on about this is I. When I took sod pills I felt nothing you could hit me all you wanted it did not boer me .the day I looked at you and told you I hated you and run upstairs and locked the door you where taking the screws out I f I could have open that window I would have so jumped out and ran away. How you dragged me down the stairs by my hair like you where some cave women?.. And you kept asking me if I was on something because I couldn't. Cry I was pain pills the more I took the pin went way. Even Scott knew something was wrong because. Of my swings.......
Friday, February 07, 2014 10:25:00 PM
Lisa said...This is I the daughter you told on a daily basis you wish I was never born. Let's not forget you rage how you would tell. Us kids you would ram your fist down our throats.. This is the girl thAt you punched in the nose where blood was going al over my clothes and had to change clothes for church.. Pam and I are the girls you would. Lock us out in the winter on that porch there was no heat but let us get sick we got a beating for that... You locked us out there was snow on the ground we had no shoes and where in our slips......
Friday, February 07, 2014 10:34:00 PM
Lisa said...
I always took there heads off Pam would go and put the heads back on .. Davis told my mom every. Time I do that To smack me as hard as she could because. I was acting like a crazy person that is embarrassing barb Davis and the church ....... Lori and I would always play church we would first find the biggest sticks we could we would pick our dolls out and set them by us we would take turns preaching my doll was always taken out to get a spanking then her doll would get spanked.. She asked me why I punched her doll in the nose I told her because she said bad words Lori pulled her hair , I pulled the rest out told to listen. We'll barb. You where the reason I was crazy
Sunday, February 23, 2014 11:08:00 PM
Notice that Lisa Norton records that "Davis told my mom every. Time I do that To smack me as hard as she could because. i was acting like a crazy person that is embarrassing barb Davis and the church."
WOW! So this devil, r w davis, tells you to smack your daughter as hard as you can for embarrassing him? Sounds just like Jesus to us. NOT!
Smack an adult as hard as you can; you'll be going to jail for assault.
But because these little girls had nobody to stand up for them or defend them, suddenly that makes it okay? It's okay to assault a child because "Pastor says so."???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Lori said...
Yes Lisa we did do that ,but at that time we thought that was the thing to do, cause we were thought that, was the way we should treat our kid's and if they were out of line we were to punish them for not listening,Yes they were only doll's but can you omagine what would of happen if thoses were real children they would of been beaten ,and damaged...This really didn't cross my mind till we was on the phone the other day and I was like WOW REALLY that's why we did that because the church taught us that we never knew that till just recently....Hmmm makes me wonder...
Monday, February 24, 2014 8:25:00 AM
Do you people think for one minute it is okay to beat kids? Tell the police "Pastor says so." and see how far that gets you. Maybe they'll bring a set of handcuffs for him too!
"Well," you say, "r w davis is dead." GOOD! He can no longer hurt little ones. But how many of his doctrines of devils remain in force in YOUR NTCC?
Denigration:
- to say very critical and often unfair things about (someone)
- to make (something) seem less important or valuable
Misogyny:
- the hatred or dislike of women or girls
- sexual discrimination
- denigration of women
- violence against women
- sexual objectification of women
Sexual Objectification:
- treating a person merely as an instrument of sexual pleasure
- making them a "sex object"
Objectification:
The testimonies of these women in this post and the previous posts by them clearly show the ntcc pattern of abusing and belittling both children and women. There is no equality. Women in the NTCC 'Seminary' do the same work as the men, yet only the men receive Ministers' Licenses upon completion of the course. That is only one example of the NTCC gender-bias.
But how should things be?
Stereotypes about construction workers are exploited here to empower women...
"You want to hear a filthy word? Gender-bias!"
Gender-bias or Sexism:
- Sexism or gender discrimination is
- prejudice or discrimination based on a person's sex or gender.[1]
- Sexist attitudes may stem from traditional stereotypes of gender roles,[2][3]
- and may include the belief that a person of one sex is intrinsically superior to a person of the other.[4]
- job applicant may face discriminatory hiring practices, or (if hired) receive
- unequal compensation or treatment compared to that of their opposite-sex peers[5]
- Extreme sexism may foster sexual harassment
- rape and other forms of sexual violence.[6]
"I'd like to show you the respect you deserve!"
- "Yeah!"
- "Well said!"
"A woman's place is wherever SHE chooses!"
Objectification:
- treating a person as a thing, without regard to their dignity
"You know what I'd like to see?
- A society in which the objectification of women
- makes way for gender-neutral interactions
- free from assumptions and expectations!"
- "Alright!"
- "You Go Girl!"
"WHAT DO WE WANT?"
- "EQUALITY!"
- "MISOGYNY!"
What happens when misogyny goes unchallenged and becomes acceptable and a CULTural norm?
Is the belittling and berating of women and children seen in the NTCC the pattern of Christianity that God intends for His Children? What can you do about it? If the answer is "Nothing." then LEAVE THE NTCC.
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17 comments:
In the ntcc there is a definite pecking order and women and children are at the bottom. The weaker vessels are not treated with love and respect in the ntcc. They are often used as examples by the Davis want-to-be preachers who excoriate them to make themselves feel better.
Children are even lower on the ladder of cruelty and often are trampled on by their parents and church leadership. Most parents in the ntcc have paternal instincts and will try to do whats right, but when the know it all MOG starts plowing them for raising their children wrong many will cave. The worst examples are those biological incubators that beat their children just to gain respect from the cult leaders, like the Norton and St. Clair hags that would introduce their children to the worst types of cruelty to please Davis.
Women are also treated like trash in the ntcc and sometimes to be praised by Davis they would mistreat their own kids at Davis' request.
If you are a woman in the ntcc, you deserve so much more respect then you will ever get from those ingrates. Wake up and leave. The best thing you can do is escape with your children and raise them without the sick influence of the ntcc. They have no business telling anyone how to raise children. The majority of the ntcc kids that were raised in that circus have left the cult and are trying to find their way elsewhere as young adults. Don't let these total abject failures at child rearing try to tell you how to raise your children. They have failed miserably and have no idea how to love their own kids. Don't think that they will do any better with yours.
What Lisa experience is just beyond horrible. Barbara was so cruel to Lisa. She didn't deserve it at all. I hate what happened to her. I am thankful she had a wonderful friend in Lori. It is sad to think that Davis was more worried about people finding out about his evil teaching than about a child. To tell Barbara to smack her hard that is awful.
I know for some that didn't grow up in the group it is hard to imagine but this is how it was for many that grew up in this group. When I was a child it was pretty common for me to see other children getting their bare butts smacked or going into the bathroom seeing it in action. Sometimes Joan would see a child getting smacked and look at me saying you were around this child you must have done wherever they did so I would get a whipping too. When I wouldn't confess I would get it worse until I would say something to get her to stop. If I didn't say something she could whip me off and on for days over the same situation. The problem was I had no idea why the other child was in trouble or what they supposedly did at all. If she find out later what they did was different I got it worse. She would say you lied to me well she wouldn't except I had no idea what that child did and I wasn't a party to it so what other chose did I have in the situation.
Yet this is what they have taught and continue to teach. Beat your children or they will hurt the work of God, beat them so they are too afraid to act like normal children, beat them so they will be afraid to talk to others, beat them so they will know their place, beat them so they can be controlled in every way including thinking they must go to bible school, beat them so the little girls will be married before they realize they can leave the group.
This leads little girls to grow up thinking that it is okay for men to abuse them having no idea that what is happening is abuse. Just like they teach the wrong definition of a cult they teach the wrong definition of what is really abuse. Telling a woman when they can and can't leave the house is abuse. Telling her when she can or can't make a phone call that is abuse. Insulting her is abuse. Telling her to shut up because you don't like what she is saying that is abuse. Making jokes about her size that is abuse. Not willing to back-up her up or tearing her down for how she thinks and what she wants in life that is abuse. Trying to force her to be something she is not that is abuse. In fact trying to force her to do anything against her will is abuse. Her dreams are just as important as a man's dreams. Women aren't made to be put on a shelf only pulling down when a someone has need of them.
Hugs,
Julie
Threat your children was the way Davis said to do things never stop and listen to them. No communication at all in fact they taught no communication between husband and wife or anyone else for that matter. How dare you talk you might actually use your brain and everyone knows only the leaders brains were made for use. Everyone else's brains were created for invisible displays unless you have a talent they can abuse for themselves...oops I mean use for the man of God for we know the man of God is actually God....their crazy thinking.
We know that the bible says In Genesis chapter two that it wasn't good for man not to have a slave so God decide to make Adam a woman to abuse. You say that is crazy but this is how NTCC view women and some men go along with it and say they are following the reason God decided to make women. It is like the man is the King and the wife is just a slave.
Hugs,
Julie
DNA said.....
Women are also treated like trash in the ntcc and sometimes to be praised by Davis they would mistreat their own kids at Davis' request.
It is pretty sad that to get praise or any positiveness women have to mistreat another but that is the way it is in NTCC. The more you abuse the more changes you can be Bud Bud with the leaders until they see a benefit to themselves to abuse you too. Is this really what you want for yourself and your children.
If someone was willing to praise you for holding a gun to your child's head or threating them with it; would that be worth the praise? Well mistreating your children or mistreating women is no different for you are destroying their lives with the mistreatment killing them inside. Leave there is so much more out there for you.
Hugs,
Julie
Children really do act out what they experience and witness. I remember beating my dolls even using red marker on one doll to show the blood from the bleeding nose I supposedly gave her.
I remember one day being out in public with Joan and I was shaking my doll calling her all kinds of names telling her I hated her that she was embarrassed me. Joan grabbed my arm told me to stop it is just a stupid doll. I said no it is a child and dumb children need to be perfect or they get hurt. This lady who saw this stopped by Joan and said Ma'am you really need to be careful what she is seeing on TV it can damage a child's idea or right and wrong wounding their little hearts. I said We don't have one of those evil boxes do we Joan ( of course I didn't call her that just can't call her the other) only Davis Olson and I listed everyone I knew had one. The lady looked shocked at Joan waiting for her to confirm this. Joan said now Julie lets not make up lies to get attention you know the TV isn't a bad thing we just can't have it because Davis said it wasn't best for you seeing it makes you act like this. Except for looking viewing a TV roughly twice when I snuck off to neighbors only seeing a few minutes each time I hadn't seen TV so I am puzzled by Joan's remarks. Joan hands me a pen and paper saying draw me a pretty picture like a good little girl. The lady walked away. Of course as always curiosity got the best of me I had to know why Joan lied. Joan said Well people won't understand the reason we can't have it around is because of you. All I got out of that is another thing is your fault. If I wasn't around life would be different life would be better. I said if it is only because of me why does the church preach against it? I said is it like other things some things are a secret since people don't understand? I got my face slapped in the car for that statement. I got a pretty bad beating session for that day. I had marks from my back down to my legs. I didn't understand why what I said got me in so much trouble. I didn't understand why some people could have TV but others couldn't have one. I was so confused. My doll got another session about being a bother, so unlovable, dumb, and hard to be around. Then I started crying telling the doll all my hurts and pains. I asked the doll to love me because no one else did. I told the doll lets be perfect maybe they will love us then. For the next two weeks I tried to be really good, hardly saying a word but it didn't help. I decided I was a permanently bad, ugly, retarded, bother to all little girl that no one could really love. I had to earn everything yet even trying to earn it I failed at earning love.
Many of the children that grow up in this group even ones that didn't suffer as bad as us girls did; they still didn't feel loved like a child needs. They don't feel like the most important people in their parents lives. People this group will never allow you to love your children like they need you to and they will never allow you to make your children the most important in your life either.
If you really love your children please get them out of that place that will scar them. You don't deserve to be bullied and your children don't deserve that either.
Hugs,
Julie
DNA said....
Children are even lower on the ladder of cruelty and often are trampled on by their parents and church leadership.
Children getting trampled on by their parents I have seen that over and over. Parents reacting in angry when leaders say something about there child doing something wrong. Yet I have seen the leaders children do worse and nothing is done about their children. Like when Grant bit a child in the nursery it had to be the other child's fault .....or one time this child was racing with Grant and they were on bikes the other child won so Kekel pulls the parent aside says you need to encourage your child not to be so prideful because with males they can get be prideful and get big egos then they start thinking smarting than others and this is not pleasing to God. hmmmmm all over a child racing on a bike. All the child said after the race was hey Grant lets do it again. That surely doesn't sound prideful to me. Children aren't allowed to simply be a child they are little robots that according to NTCC have on/off buttons that you should push at the leaders' command.
Hugs,
Julie
Wow, Julie, really good comments. First of all, I can't imagine growing up in the ntcc. Being an adult in the ntcc was hard enough. I came into the ntcc with a lot of emotional baggage as many others did. At the age of 18 and straight out of Basic training they found me and started brainwashing me. Other people used to say, "Don't go to that church, they are all brainwashed". We would all say, "We are not brainwashed, we are blood washed".
I guess when you get washed in the blood that must mean that you turn into an abusive jerk. I remember Cyrus used to beat his infant son really hard, like he was trying to drive the devil out of him, but he was the one who needed to have the devil driven out of him for beating his baby so hard. I remember hearing his hand hit the babies skin really hard over and over again, trying to get his child to stop crying, but the more he spanked little David, the more he cried.
Oh but the Cyrus's are such loving and shining examples of Christianity. They love people and have given their lives to serving them. Do they really? Take a closer look at them and you will find they are just like the rest of the cult leaders in the ntcc. The longer they stay, the more abusive they become to those around them.
They were already experts at brainwashing, right out of the gate. Most normal people would call child protective services and they would take that child away, if they seen and heard what we all seen and heard. But we were told that this was Gawd's way of disciplining a child.
Prov. 22:6 "Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it."
Ever notice how they always find a scripture and twist it to justify their actions, so that the brainwashed masses will think that it's God that inspired them to commit sin? It never fails, scripture is used to justify the ungodly, because they know that their actions are repulsive.
Is this really the way that you want your child to grow up? I wonder how young David Cyrus dealt with the way he was treated. He didn't have dolls to spank or tear their heads off, (I hope). I hope the best for him because he was a victim as a child just like so many others were. By the way, he was less than one year old when he was being tortured in the mini cult compound masquerading as a servicemen's home.
Ralph and Joan were not parents. Biologically they were, but spiritually, emotionally and physically they were tormenting their daughter. The way children are raised in the ntcc should be no surprise because they use the same psychology to groom adults for the ministry.
You really have to evaluate what the true intentions and objectives are in the ntcc to figure out what's really going on. The leadership wants money and power. They want people to stand in awe of them, while they accumulate wealth and riches. Normal people see right through it all, but cult members are conditioned to accept it all without question or they will be whipped by the "sword of the Lawrd". They get the same beatings that the children get, only they are not physically painful, but emotionally and spiritually painful. How many times have you heard the question asked, "If you love God?" You can put anything behind that phrase and cult members will apply it to themselves.
If you love God you won't dress like a Jezebel.
If you love God you won't wear pants, or jeans, or warpaint, or devil stirrups, or shorts, or watch TV, or go to movies, or go to sporting events, or go to concerts, or go to church anywhere but the ntcc. That is the way it is or was. That was the adults receiving a beat down, and it could get really nasty. Folks could get picked apart in church service in front of all the people they loved in the world, and feel like filthy sinners for doing things that they wouldn't do if they loved God, (supposedly). If you love God you will pay your tithes and offerings. You gave your money to the devil, you might as well give it to me. I am an ntcc pastor and I know much more about managing your money than you do, so go ahead and empty your wallet into the offering plate, oh while we are on this subject, Bro. Moreno, I need you to take me somewhere after church, I forgot my wallet. For those of you who faithfully give your money to the ntcc mega church in Graham, you might want to ask feel good Phil,where Moreno took him to retrieve his wallet. I wonder what kind of sacrifices had to be made in the servicemen's home in Japan so that Phil could visit that whorehouse? I'm sure when he got his wallet back, it was empty. Of course he didn't go there to sleep. I wonder how many tithe dollars were spent in that little adventure in fleshly gratification? That must have been the week when they ran out of groceries and had no money in the home so they declared it a week of fasting and prayer.
So those of you that sit in church services five times a week and hear the words: "If you love God, you will do this or you won't do that", make sure you shout AMEN and be the best cult member you can possibly be. If you never question your pastor, if you shout Amen and do all the things he wants you to do, you will fit right in with this bunch.
Julie said:
"This leads little girls to grow up thinking that it is okay for men to abuse them having no idea that what is happening is abuse."
DNA said,
That is extremely insightful and a very good point. Abuse is tolerated and even encouraged throughout the Borg as long as it is not directed at the rich rulers or their families. They act like they are part of the royal family of the queen of England and that they are entitled to be worshiped and praised more than Jesus.
There are so many abusers in the ntcc. They treat their wives like children and they treat their children like slaves. This is learned behavior. If you want to find some abusive people and do a study on them, go visit an ntcc church. Watch how many of the men treat their wives and their kids. It's sad that it's all being done in the name of religion. If you ever want to know what the success rate is for raising children in the ntcc, go to the facebook pages of people like Grant Kekel and others that you may know that were raised in the ntcc. Many don't want anything to do with the cult and are trying to recover from their experience. If it were such a wholesome and great environment for kids and wives, why is it that there are so many casualties of war? They lie to you, and you believe them. You feel worthless because they treated you like you were worthless. God will never treat you like you are worthless, but the ntcc cult leaders sure will.
DNA said....
Prov. 22:6 "Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it."
Ever notice how they always find a scripture and twist it to justify their actions, so that the brainwashed masses will think that it's God that inspired them to commit sin? It never fails, scripture is used to justify the ungodly, because they know that their actions are repulsive.
Yes they do twist scripture to fit their actions. If one really looks at this scripture in Proverbs for what it says they will know how wrong this group really is on raising children.
The first part says "Train up a child in the way he should go" the second part assure you that if you do it right he will not depart from it.
People children are growing up and leaving this group leaving the way they were raised. This is proof that the way they teach to raise children is wrong. It isn't just one child it is many. It is clear how wrong they are really.
You say this child that is now an adult is doing this or that see how they are living. Well considering their sorry excuse of examples yes they are now having to figure out life on their own. They should be praised for having the guts to leave because it takes guts to walk away from your family and everything you have ever known.
Hugs,
Julie
DNA said....
I remember Cyrus used to beat his infant son really hard, like he was trying to drive the devil out of him, but he was the one who needed to have the devil driven out of him for beating his baby so hard. I remember hearing his hand hit the babies skin really hard over and over again, trying to get his child to stop crying, but the more he spanked little David, the more he cried.
Yes I have seen plenty of infants some as young a few months being spanked. Even as a child that one puzzled me for I knew babies didn't understand shut up as older children did. Even in play I didn't want to hit the dolls that were suppose to be infants only the older children dolls did I beat. I would actually get all shook up when I would see infants smacked. I couldn't understand my feelings on this for years. I would think why do I feel the pain of these babies when God wants them hit.
When I had my son I refused to smack his little infant bottom. I got in trouble for not being willing to beat him. Every time a leader came through my son did something that they would feel needed a smack. I didn't feel it was right but I had reason to give them for my feelings because I didn't understand things at all.
One time Davis came through my son was over a year old; he was sitting in the service began talk and singing Spanish words. I stood and I took him out. I let him play on the floor of the lobby he started seeming like he was ready for sleep so I picked him up and put him to sleep in my arms. I walked back into the last part of that very long service. After church Davis insulted me for having an unruly child. He asked if I had beat his butt for disrupting his service. I said no he would just talking and singing he doesn't understand the no talking thing yet. Davis got mad. He started to say you should get than he stopped. I think he wanted to say I should get a spanking for not spanking my son but he caught himself. Then a few members and such came around than he acts like it wasn't a big deal that Thomas had been noisy that it was like his grandson. I stood there very confused. First he tells me I should beat my child. Next he starts to say I need a spanking but something puzzlingly stops him. Finally he acts as if my son doesn't need a spanking.
I thought why are different things said depending on who is present. There was no one I was brave enough to tell that I was questioning the different leaders and their confusing words. I had already tried sharing and got a brutal spanking over it by Kekel since it made it to the leaders what I was saying. My mouth still found other ways to get me in trouble.
Hugs,
Julie
Oh but the Cyrus's are such loving and shining examples of Christianity. They love people and have given their lives to serving them. Do they really? Take a closer look at them and you will find they are just like the rest of the cult leaders in the ntcc. The longer they stay, the more abusive they become to those around them.
Cyrus a shining example???....I can say from personal experience that they are far from shining example. If Cyrus spanked his son anything like he spanked me before he ever had a child that poor child must have been in severe pain.
His wife acts like she owed NTCC her life since she came as a teenager and the Davis' gave her love and care she was lacking or so she always said they did.
She was a mean woman as far back as I can remember. He wasn't any better at all.
How in the world can anyone think this is a Godly place with all the abuse that goes on there? People wonder why I got so screwed up and wonder why I think as I do. With all the creeps I dealt with what can people expect. Those that knew did nothing because it might have exposed their sin as well. No one cared no one loved. Yet I was suppose to honor Joan and Ralph. Honor them for what destroying me, hurting me to the very core of my being, using me in sick ways, damaging my sense of self, God and all people.
One might say I am bitter no I am just sickened that people can just sit back watch others be abused, women be treated like trash, and children damaged loosing who they are to be something they weren't meant to be calling it the God thing to do.
Women and children are left to feel insecure on all levels including wondering if there will be food enough will basic needs be met while all the money is given to those that don't need it all. Of course they wouldn't give food to the starving of the world so it shouldn't be a surprised they don't mind if the lowly people of NTCC don't have food either. Who cares if your children have a bed to sleep on as long as you give your money to the church. Who cares if your wife and children have proper clothing as long as you give all your money to the church. You are waiting for God to bless you. You give away all you ever get so even if He blessed you, you would give that to the church so sit back enjoy being poor because they will never stop asking for all your money.
Hugs,
Julie
DNA said.....
I wonder how young David Cyrus dealt with the way he was treated. He didn't have dolls to spank or tear their heads off, (I hope). I hope the best for him because he was a victim as a child just like so many others were.
Yeah one has to wonder how he dealt with his feelings.
I know a lot of boys had nightmares, would get in fights with other children at a drop of a hat, they would control and mistreat girls in their play. The boys would be so cruel in their play but what can one except with what they saw with men in the group. When playing games boys always made the girls the people of the game. I found this even with boys after I became an adult. They would have aggression issues. They like the girls have no idea right from wrong in a relationship.
Then parents would beat their children for embarrassing them. Men would be cruel to their wives but when their sons were cruel they would be beaten. Back to the "Do as I say not as I do" statement.
Both boys and girls have it hard and are punished for acting out what they see in the adults around them.
Hugs,
Julie
Wow I am reading the story about the baby over a year old needing a spankfing I am so glad you where a strong women and took the baby outside . Davis is cruel and very sick wipers on no matter what you want to think I believe he is in Hell for all the pain he has caused so many people. Hitler was not even half as bad as Davis. Ione horrible man took our families away turned husband into abuser and children who grow up with no voice and they grow up with all kinds of complex and they are twisted. It takes forever to undue all the damaged that he has done. As for me I was out at 15 but the people who where kids and stayed. There minds he played with and destroyed them they are insecure
Im the person that johnny jordon force sex upon it was from the 8years old to 12 years old and it was very horriable for me all I want is for every parent in this so called church or anywhere keep johnny jordan far away from
Anonymous,
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Rev. St. Clair was my family's pastor for a time. He spanked me on 3 different occasions after the third time I told my parents. My dad was angry at the way I described the spanking because we knew of another kid OUTSIDE of NTCC that was disciplined that way. My dad went to Rev. St.Clair he admitted to the spanking but denied it happened the way I said saying I had made it up just repeating what took place with the other girl. My dad was mad at me so I was grounded for a while. After that there was tension between my parents and I. When I turned 18 my dad asked me to leave since he didn't believe I was living as a Christian should. I still stick to my story not sure if Rev. St. Clair was right or wrong but even at 20 years old I am bothered by what happened.
Thanks for letting me comment. I am took scared to talk to anyone about this. You probably think I am crazy but I hate being abandoned by my entire family fear going through anything else. My parents, siblings, grandparents and my aunt are in this group. I am trying my best to make something of my life. Rev. St. Clair is probably happy to know my parents kicked me out.
I am chicken and weak. If it isn't too much to ask please pray for me. I am so lost on God stuff not sure if he even wants me anymore.
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