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Ramirez: What's right with it?
Medrano: You'd have to watch it on the devil vision.
Rodger Wilson Davis: How can you watch football while souls are dying and going to hell?
Olson: It doesn't seem right to the Holy Ghost.
RWD: If you have to ask what's wrong with it then it's most likely a sin.
Ashmore: Football pants are lascivious and cause people to lust.
Kekel:
I disagree with the old geezer and everyone else on this one. Policy and rules are two different things. My kid is going to be raised like a normal kid participating in sports and dressing like a normal human being; while all you duped ministers that worship the ground that RWD walks on are going to have to raise your kids like a bunch of dorks. If you are a minister you will not have a TV, even though I raised my kid, grant kekel, on a steady diet of DVD's; that he was able to watch on a computer monitor. Shhh! We all know that's not a sin.
Bring your frisbees and footballs to the campground; there will be sports and fun and BBQ's at the new pavilion. Bring your musical instruments; and we'll all sit around the camp fire singing Kumbaya. And the stupid idiots that financed and made it all possible will gather in their little hate groups online and shower us with "hatred" and "personal attacks"; while we continue to roll in the big bucks. We'll be laughing all the way to the bank! Oh, and by the way, we will also be having church.
I disagree with the old geezer and everyone else on this one. Policy and rules are two different things. My kid is going to be raised like a normal kid participating in sports and dressing like a normal human being; while all you duped ministers that worship the ground that RWD walks on are going to have to raise your kids like a bunch of dorks. If you are a minister you will not have a TV, even though I raised my kid, grant kekel, on a steady diet of DVD's; that he was able to watch on a computer monitor. Shhh! We all know that's not a sin.
Bring your frisbees and footballs to the campground; there will be sports and fun and BBQ's at the new pavilion. Bring your musical instruments; and we'll all sit around the camp fire singing Kumbaya. And the stupid idiots that financed and made it all possible will gather in their little hate groups online and shower us with "hatred" and "personal attacks"; while we continue to roll in the big bucks. We'll be laughing all the way to the bank! Oh, and by the way, we will also be having church.
*How lame! We will also be having church? Listed LAST!* *sigh*
So we see, ntcc is singing out the other side of the mouth now. They taught you it was wrong for you and your kids; but anything goes when kekel krows.... Here's some proof.
1) grant kekel's football stats as recorded on Max Preps, a tool for scouting agents:
-here
2) grant kekel's football documented by his private academy's blog:
Charles Wright Academy blog post about grant kekel playing football for their team, The Tarriers:
-here (expired)
3) The Charles Wright article also lists grant as having scored in the top 5% of test takers making him a National Merit Commended Scholar. This score usually comes from the PSAT, the Pre-Scholastic Aptitude Test, given to students who take the test as a prerequisite to applying for acceptance to colleges. That's a long way of saying that grant was planning to go to college. Of course, now we know he does go to college -- something else the ntcc preached against for you and your kids:
Link to read a separate blog post about grant kekel going to college @ SLU
-here
4) Photos of grant kekel's graduation from Charles Wright Academy
can be viewed on the photographer's web site. Please do not discredit the photographer's work by abusing the 'thumbs down' app available on each photo. Buy one (or the whole set) today!
Pic of grant kekel link to Brian Lee Photography
-here
Back To Football:
This weekend was Divisional playoff weekend in the NFL. My team lost; but I watched the other games and had a great time. I have a TV in my living room and another in the bedroom. We get standard cable piped into our house; and we have been known to watch the Animal Planet and some movies; and this time of the year we are guilty of watching football. In my opinion, football is a pretty fun sport to watch. Some people like baseball, basketball or hockey; but I am a football person.
I've watched football with more than one of my ntcc pastors in the rec center or in a department store electronics section while we were supposed to be soul winning. We've all heard and seen folks get plowed for watching TV, or watching football on TV, or allowing their son to play high school football. We've all heard the standard reasons and answers that are given:
- Souls are dying and going to hell.
- Cheerleaders are scantily clad.
- Football tights are lascivious.
- Alcohol is served at games.
- T.V. is "the devil vision".
- And the list goes on....
We heard this junk preached over and over for decades; and now here we are learning that God has changed His mind on everything. Or has He?
For all you old time ntcc'rs, there is a cancer spreading in your organization. There is sin in the camp; and it's corrupting the whole body. The only way that you'll get rid of it is to get rid of the perpetrators in the highest places. You need to get rid of kekel; and then you can go back to being a strict controlling cult again!
Denis knew he could capitalize on the ntcc's compromising ways by influencing a number of people to continue living a controlling lifestyle under his uncompromising cloned davis cult doctrine. The infrastructure was already in place. And that's what Denis did. He started his own cult, called House Of Prayer. Once it began to be eXposed on the internet, Denis changed the cult name to Assembly Of Prayer. But the Beast is the same, no matter what you call it.
What makes this whole ntcc thing so despicable is that you old time ntcc'rs that know better are still being controlled by a bunch of known Hypocrites and Shysters that have openly and arrogantly changed the gospel to accommodate their lust for money. If you really believed they were right when they taught their man-made doctrine as if it were a commandment from God, then you would be wrong for staying with them now that they have compromised. And if they were wrong for teaching their man-made doctrine as if it were a commandment from God, then you are wrong to stay with a group that is so far removed from God and yet makes fantastic claims like davis did saying "I've never missed Gawd. All I do is by the Holy Ghost." Yeah, right, whatever! God is not double-minded!
Denis knew he could capitalize on the ntcc's compromising ways by influencing a number of people to continue living a controlling lifestyle under his uncompromising cloned davis cult doctrine. The infrastructure was already in place. And that's what Denis did. He started his own cult, called House Of Prayer. Once it began to be eXposed on the internet, Denis changed the cult name to Assembly Of Prayer. But the Beast is the same, no matter what you call it.
What makes this whole ntcc thing so despicable is that you old time ntcc'rs that know better are still being controlled by a bunch of known Hypocrites and Shysters that have openly and arrogantly changed the gospel to accommodate their lust for money. If you really believed they were right when they taught their man-made doctrine as if it were a commandment from God, then you would be wrong for staying with them now that they have compromised. And if they were wrong for teaching their man-made doctrine as if it were a commandment from God, then you are wrong to stay with a group that is so far removed from God and yet makes fantastic claims like davis did saying "I've never missed Gawd. All I do is by the Holy Ghost." Yeah, right, whatever! God is not double-minded!
There are much bigger sins than football that you need to worry about in the ntcc. There are a bunch of folks that you have alienated from what they considered to be their only family and friends. You can preach against TV, and football and lascivious football attire, and the drunken reveling football atmosphere; but what the ntcc has done is far worse! The leaders in the highest places of the ntcc have perverted the gospel by adding their own doctrines, rules and policies that exclude the very ones that they should be loving. It all rotates around money; and if you can't see that then you are blind.
You will run good people off and preach down to the ones that have helped you get to the place that you are. You will call people out by name and publicly rebuke them to make yourself feel better. If you want the ntcc, keep it. You deserve it. Let them keep using you until you find yourself in your 40's, 50's and 60's, broke and alone, with nothing to show for the decades you gave them. They will not mourn your spiritual death. They will keep using people until they've sucked every ounce of energy they have and every dime they give; and then ntcc will kick them out and kick them while they are down.
The ntcc does not care about you. This is not Christianity. This is not the love of God. This is not forgiveness. This is not Charity. This is not brotherly love, or kindness, or mercy, or grace or peace. Wake up, we wouldn't warn you if we didn't care. We don't want you to have to go down the road so many of us went down! God is Love.
You will run good people off and preach down to the ones that have helped you get to the place that you are. You will call people out by name and publicly rebuke them to make yourself feel better. If you want the ntcc, keep it. You deserve it. Let them keep using you until you find yourself in your 40's, 50's and 60's, broke and alone, with nothing to show for the decades you gave them. They will not mourn your spiritual death. They will keep using people until they've sucked every ounce of energy they have and every dime they give; and then ntcc will kick them out and kick them while they are down.
The ntcc does not care about you. This is not Christianity. This is not the love of God. This is not forgiveness. This is not Charity. This is not brotherly love, or kindness, or mercy, or grace or peace. Wake up, we wouldn't warn you if we didn't care. We don't want you to have to go down the road so many of us went down! God is Love.
7 comments:
There is a movie called, "Facing the Giants", that put's things in perspective. It's about a High School football team that finds God and turns their season around. This is something that ntcc doctrine will not allow. God doesn't care about football, we've heard it all before. Tebow is an anomaly, in that he is greatly respected by his team mates for his Christian testimony, and good things seem to happen to him. He is of great character and embodies much of what the bible defines as Christian. Preaching against football excludes the possibility that anyone involved in the sport or any other sport can be saved.
This is what the ntcc does. They exclude groups of people by preaching against them to make themselves seem like they have an exclusive gospel that makes them special above all others. They are self proclaimed prophets of their own doctrine that alienates people that God loves from becoming Christians.
Back in the nineties while davis was preaching against sports, keener used to tune into the baseball games while he was living on the campground in his Recreational Vehicle [RV] that the organization bought him. I heard it myself. At the time I assumed old george was listening to the radio; but it could have been a T.V. Either way, what's the difference? T.V. or radio, baseball or football, keener was violating davis' teaching by 'wasting time while souls are dying and going to hell'.
arlen bradeen was also a big sports fan and would light up when talking about the scores, tuning into the games on the radio in the vehicle.
The double standards and hypocrisy of the ntcc were alive and well back then. We believe the double standards and hypocrisy continue today.
Watch what they preach and look at how they live and ask yourself if the they are the same. If not they are hypocrites who should not be followed.
Christ told His followers the same thing about the Pharisees.
Mat 23:1-4, 23
Don't be fooled. Learn the easy way. The truth is right out in the open here and in the Bible. Stop over-riding the Holy Ghost and The Truth and just obey God, not false teachers like the ntcc 'leaders' who "say and do not". They are hypocrites. Follow Jesus.
Ange
This is a good thread because it tells it just like it is. The NTCC is so mess up it ought to be against the law. Kekel actually said that the other preachers just didn't listen. Kekel said RWD never taught that stuff. Kekel claimed that RWD was just setting out some guidelines to consider no of which were ever intended to be conditions for keeping your salvation. Kekel is full of it and so is his father in law and anyone who has been around the NTCC any length of time should see that clearly. If they don't they are kind of stupid.
Come on, the rules were no mystery. We all heard that stuff taught in conference. The only way you should have missed it is if you were deaf and dumb and I don't mean dumb literately as in you couldn't talk. I meant it as in you were a dummy and we know what that means.
Chief
The Giants made it.
Chief
That they did! Eli is like a Timex - He takes a licking and keeps on ticking! 6 sacks; 12 tackles; 20 hits and he kept going. Close game. Can't wait for the Super Bowl match-up Pats / Giants. Should be another nail-biter!
Yeah they did, congrats to MDR and Cha Chiefster, your teams made it! This should be an excellent Superbowl. I think that it can go either way. It's going to come down to the end, I believe. I like the Patriots and Brady, but I have to go with the Giants on this one. I think Eli and the Giants are going to win in similar fashion as they did in 07. I don't have a horse in this race since the Broncos lost and while either team can win I'll probably enjoy it just as much. Either way it's going to be a great Superbowl and I'm not going to be in some ntcc store front building watching some preacher foam at the mouth while he tells me that I should give him every spare dime I have so that it can all filter up into the Davis/Kekel estates. While I trust in God and realize that He is number one in my life, I also see where the ntcc leadership is laying up their treasures and I don't want to be like them. Most of their teachings are opposite of what the bible requires in a Christians life. I am not rich right now but I have just about everything I need. The attitude that is projected in the ntcc is a dangerous one. They are a mountain unto themselves and too many people are excluded.
Wow, me and Ange responded at the same time to Jeff's comment. Can you tell that I've turned her on to football? We actually watch games together, don't y'all wish you had a wife that loves football? Just kidding. We have a lot of fun in this house watching Football. We were taught that it's a sin to have fun. It seems like any type of activity that we involved ourselves in while a member of the ntcc, was wrong. They would always find a reason to put a damper on your happiness. Not any more!
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