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Gal. 4:16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth? John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. 1 John 4:6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Skip To Blue Letter Bible Search Tool

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Monday, July 2, 2012

David Armer Shares: Why We Left NTCC

Original Letter Dated:  9/7/09
 Dave And Connie Armer
 Still Saved and Loving
 God and Each Other! 
Dear Pastor Davis, Rev. Olson, Rev. Johnson, Rev. Kekel, Rev. Kinson, your wives,

and anyone else who may read this letter,

Greetings in The Name of The Lord.

Dear Men, and Brethren;

I came to God over 30 years ago, because of the vision, and love of Mom and Pop Gaylord, who saw G.I.'s at Ft. Polk, La. and around the world. Pastor Davis, and Pop worked together, and were used by God to lay the foundation of our organization.

In 1979, I knew nothing about God, except that He loved me, and I was loved by Pastor and Sister Rodriquez. I met Mom and Pop, Rev. Johnson, and Pastor Davis, Bro. Bluementhal, and Bro. Samento. It seemed like everyone I met, who was from our church, had that same love, and the same Holy Power in their lives.

I've Seen I AM by Jonathan David Helser on YouTube


I knew that God was working in our church, and I was excited to be a part of something so great, and so good, and so real. I couldn't get enough of God, or His People. I heard the stories of Great men of God, what they were doing, and what they had done. I wanted to be a part, I wanted to be used by God to help people.

I remember siting spellbound, as men of God like, Pastor Davis, Rev. Johnson, Rev.Ashmore, etc. preached. I remember the first time Bro. Kekel preached at North St. Louis, he asked me to watch the time, so that he wouldn't go over 30 minutes. How about going back to that rule?

Through out the years, in our ranks, I have been privileged to meet some of the finest people in the World. Men and Women of God, Holy, and pure, and real. That same love, shone in their hearts, and lives. A holy radiance, a glow, a peace that surpassed all our understanding.

I have one question for all of you who will read this letter, where did all those people go?

Do they all hate God, and want their sin? Do they all want this world, and not the world to come? Are they all serving the devil, and are now our enemies, and the enemies of God? Reprobates? Perverts, Judas Iscariot's, Benedict Arnold's?

That is the message I heard from the pulpit, over the years.

There are some who do, and have turned from God. Some of them hate you, and me, and everything that reminds them of God, and the NTCC.

How many were run off? Given the cold shoulder, How many were given that disapproving look, that stare that could melt ice. How many were called out, questioned, or rebuked from the pulpit, or simply asked to leave? Or carelessly forgotten? Or returning so impoverished from some field of endeavor, that they were forced to make choices, only latter to regret?

Where is the love that that I knew when I first came in to our Churches?

James 5:16 partial
 The effectual fervent
 prayer of a righteous
 man availeth much.
James 5:16 (p) 
I want my Church back! God wants His Church back.

I want the hate, and clicks, and pecking order, and the favoritism, and the power, and the pride, and greed to be cast out, and to be replaced with the Love of God.

The Pulpit in our Church is St. Louis said it best, "GOD IS LOVE"

Jesus made us servants, one of another, not masters.

Maybe I was too soft to be a leader, I know my faults. But when those who we have loved and known for 30 years act like they don't even know us, something is wrong.

How could a man like R. Denis be the greatest thing that ever happened to serviceman's work one day, and the next day he is the devil himself? He was always the same. Manipulative, power hungry, and in it for the money. Definitely not a Christian, not Christ Like. Remember the 200, or 300 club? I was a dog with 10 people, and a few kids, but he walked on water. Oh ya, what happened.

The truth happened. God yanked the blanket back, and it was ugly. How could he be put into that office? Did God do that? Or are those who are supposed to advise and consent in leadership, simply yes men?

Are those who now hold offices of high esteem, power, and privilege, men with servant hearts, or do they hide their real motives, until the day that God will expose them for who they really are?

I did not forfeit, or loose my Minister's license because of conduct un-becoming of a minister,

I chose not to renew it, and gave it up by default. I felt that I was not worthy to be a minister, in the New Testament Christian Churches of America. I refused to beat my children into subjection, or dull their senses with 5 or more sessions of church each week, with no exceptions. I could not command their obedience any longer, so I accepted from each of them the commitment that I could obtain.

The messages from the pulpit over and over were basically, that I had compromised with God, that I wanted my children to go to Hell, and that I was definitely sending them there. So I grew a mustache to let every one in our church know, that I am not a NTCC preacher.

I got sick of hearing line upon line of rules, and regulations, instead of the Gospel. The letter of the Law, was killing me. I got sick of being held in suspicion. People that I have known for over 20 years, ignored or rejected my wife and I. NTCC Big wigs ignoring my wife, and I at various public meeting places, at restaurants, etc. I wasn't good enough, or hadn't achieved enough, or hadn't done enough. Mom and Pop never did me that way! I threw in the towel, I quit the club, I wanted my name taken off the Graham attendance sheets! I used to love coming to church, but it became a dread to go, when all I would hear was the LETTER OF THE LAW, AND NOT THE LIBERTY OF THE SPIRIT.

Some of the church big shots, just call me dave now, and call my wife connie, thats ok, we are still the same people. I remember when they were just nobodies, like us too.

I went to Tillicum because I needed to get away from the politics, and the positions, and the categories. How about preaching the Bible, and making it live? How about the Gospel?

I am praying for MY CHURCH, GOD'S CHURCH, THE NEW TESTAMENT CHRISTIAN CHURCHES OF AMERICA. THE CHURCH THAT USED TO BE.

I am praying for a revolution, a great awakening, an Asuza Street, and Welsh revival that will shake our church to it's foundation, AND POUR OUT THE HOLY POWER OF GOD.

What ever, or whoever is in God's way, I pray that God take them out, Now! Today.

I hope that you do not dismiss this letter, or the message I give you. They are both from God. I figure I am at a safe enough distance, that your looks can't harm me now. The gossip. The whispers.

I want my church back, the NTCC that used to be! And when that happens, I will be there, because I love God, and know what you ought to be, because you used to be that, too.

I love what our church, used to be. I love what many of you, used to be. I pray that NTCC returns to it's former glory, before it is too late.

When the glory returns, I hope that you are all there to let the power of God fall on you, too.

Don't cut me out of your photo albums, I am still the same, Brother Armer.

I won't be sending you any more letters, please see that a copy of this makes it into my permanent NTCC file. Put me on record that I oppose your un-scriptural conduct, and actions!

I don't believe all that I have heard over the pulpit at the NTCC. I believe God, and I believe HIS WORD.

It is time to get right with God.

Update:

I want to add my voice to those who have posted blogs on the internet, and call for the removal of the General, and Executive Board members of Both the New Testament Church of God, Inc., and the New Testament Christian Churches of America, Inc, according to the Missouri Statutes of Incorporation for Not For Profit Corporations:

Follow these web links below, to view the incorporation laws for the State of Missouri:

http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/c355.htm

Removal of Directors:

http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/C300-399/3550000346.HTM

From the Removal Of Directors / Missouri Statutes link above:

Removal of directors.

355.346.

1. The members may, without cause, remove one or more directors elected by them.

2. If a director is elected by a class, chapter or other organizational unit, or by region or other geographic grouping, the director may be removed only by the members of that class, chapter, unit or grouping.

3. Except as provided in subsection 9 of this section, a director may be removed under subsection 1 of this section or subsection 2 of this section only if the number of votes cast to remove the director would be sufficient to elect the director at a meeting to elect directors.

4. If cumulative voting is authorized, a director may not be removed if the number of votes, or if the director was elected by a class, chapter, unit or grouping of members, the number of votes of that class, chapter, unit or grouping, sufficient to elect the director under cumulative voting is voted against the director's removal.

5. A director elected by members may be removed by the members only at a meeting called for the purpose of removing the director and the meeting notice must state that the purpose, or one of the purposes, of the meeting is removal of the director.

6. In computing whether a director is protected from removal under subsection 2, 3 or 4 of this section, it should be assumed that the votes against removal are cast in an election for the number of directors of the class to which the director to be removed belonged on the date of that director's election.

7. An entire board of directors may be removed under the provisions of subsections 1 to 5 of this section.

8. A director elected by the board may be removed without cause by the vote of two-thirds of the directors then in office or such greater number as is set forth in the articles or bylaws; but a director elected by the board to fill the vacancy of a director elected by the members may be removed without cause by the members, but not the board.

9. If, at the beginning of a director's term on the board, the articles or bylaws provide that the director may be removed for missing a specified number of board meetings, the board may remove the director for failing to attend the specified number of meetings. The director may be removed only if a majority of the directors then in office vote for the removal.
(L. 1994 H.B. 1095)Effective 7-1-95
Follow these links below to view The Original Incorporation(s) for Both of the Organizations entities.

Rev J.H. Olson is COB of BOTH:

NEW TESTAMENT CHURCH OF GOD, INC.
AND
NEW TESTAMENT CHRISTIAN CHURCHES OF AMERICA, INC.

https://www.sos.mo.gov/BusinessEntity/soskb/Agent.asp?4136683

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