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Matt 21:12 And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves, Matt 21:13 And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.
Gal. 4:16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth? John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. 1 John 4:6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Skip To Blue Letter Bible Search Tool
Monday, January 14, 2013
The New Testament Christian Churches of America, Incorporated (NTCC) Beatitudes
Blessed are the poor in spirit: For theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Matt 5:3
The ntcc's version:
Blessed are the poor in spirit: For they can be manipulated into becoming poor in their finances, and in the process emptying their wallets we can use their money to upgrade into a bigger mansion.
Blessed are they that mourn: For they shall be comforted. Matt 5:4
The ntcc's version:
Blessed are they that mourn: For we shall give them many more reasons to mourn. We shall make their lives miserable by being abusive jerks towards them and blastething them from behindeth the pulpit.
Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. Matt 5:5
The ntcc's version:
Blessed are the meek: for they are easy to take advantage of. They shall be easily persuaded to bring all their tithe into the storehouses (mansions) of Davis and Kekel.
Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled. Matt 5:6
The ntcc's version
Blessed are they which hunger and thirst after their own righteousness: for they shall believe anything we preacheth to them, and they shall be justified by their own works. They shall freely open their wallets and give us anything we desire without questioning us because we have taught them that we are the true men of Gawd, and we have never missed Gawd, and everything we do is by the spirit of Gawd.
Blessed are the merciful: for they shall obtain mercy. Matt 5:7
The ntcc's version:
Blessed are the judgmental: for they shall shun anyone who exposeth the truth about them. They shall run off any ministers who disagreeth with them and those that maketh public their phony and hypocritical ways. They shall act like they are gods and plow people for whatever reason they can, to keep them in their places so they will remain fearful and obedient.
Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God. Matt 5:8
The ntcc's version:
Blessed are the defiled in heart: for we have made up a whole bunch of rules condoning adultery and remarriage. Cursed are those who find fault with the board members and highly favored nepotistic family members for they are allowed to violate and take advantage of the young women in the ntcc. Remember, "To the pure, all things are pure". Titus 1:15 Which the ntcc has interpreted: "We proclaim ourselves as pure, therefore our actions shall be considered pure, no matter how many young people we have enabled to be violated, by committing adultery, raping, fondling, molesting or enabling others to do so, by turning a blind eye to their actions". We reserve the right to run off, disparage, belittle or outright lie about anyone who brings accusations against the sexually deviant violators because it is more important to us that we keep our "pure" image at any cost than to admit we are defiled and corrupt narcissists.
Blessed are the peacemakers: For they shall be called the children of God. Matt 5:9
The ntcc's version:
Blessed are the tithe payers: For they are the only ones that matter to us. For where our treasure is there you will find our hearts. You can commit just about any sin and be forgiven (not forgotten); Except for the sin of stealing God's money, (our money). This will not be forgiven and thou shalt not be called the children of Gawd.
Blessed are they that are persecuted for righteousness sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Matt 5:10
The ntcc's version:
Cursed are they that are persecuted for righteousness sake: for they draw unnecessary attention to our cult operations and they can get us in trouble with the IRS and any other organizations and entities that could expose us for the crooks we are. We will label such transgressors as being Super Spiritual, so that they will stay in their places. We will however, allow them to appear as a bunch of non-credible Kooks by expecting them to live according to a bunch of man made rules that are derived from twisted scripture and we will label any public ridicule of our own stupidity as persecution.
Blessed are ye when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely for my sake. Matt 5:11
The ntcc's version:
We are being reviled by the X-ers because we are pure and doing everything right. We are as pure as the wind driven snow and we are being falsely accused. We are not getting rich off of the gospel and all we care about is lost souls. We are blessed because we are living right and we have not conned all of our cult members into believing that we are the last hope on earth for this lost and dying world. We are being persecuted and reviled because we are holy and we do not encourage adultery or remarriage. We are being falsely accused of not being transparent, because how dare they question us about money and tithe. How dare they expose us for making up rules and adding to the bible, or taking away from it. We are Gawdly Super Apostles and we can do anything we want, and should never be questioned about anything we do. We are above the law and will never be caught because we have covered our tracks and there is no paper trail. We have put fear into the hearts of all of our cult members and former cult members alike. They will never have the nerve to say anything against us and if they do we will smear them and discredit them. We will tell our members to stay off the internet and make it a sin to have any communication with those who oppose them.
There are many more ntcc beatitudes which can be added like:
Blessed are the hypocrites
Blessed are the money grubbers
Blessed are the rich board members
Blessed are the real estate tycoons
Blessed are the slave drivers
Blessed are the self proclaimed super apostles
Blessed are the manipulators
Blessed are the nepotists and narcissists
Blessed are the lying and thieving bamboozellers and crooked, chippy cheat swindlers.
But we will spare you because the purpose of this post is to bring public attention to the ntcc's outright hypocrisy and contradictions to the scriptural truths found in the Beatitudes. It is our hope and prayer that people will wake up find their way out of this destructive cult.
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As of late, I've been reading the book of Mathew and have found that the four books called the Gospels are very telling of what God expects out of people. While reading about the Scribes and Pharisees that came to Jesus asking him why his disciples ate with unwashed hands, it reminded me so much of the ntcc. They always focus on the outward appearance. The whole thrust of the ntcc is to present the outward appearance of Christianity. They try so hard to work their way into heaven.
The Pharisees were focusing on stupid stuff, like the washing of hands. Every time I read Mathew, Mark, Luke and John, I see the Son of God concerned about what is going on inside the heart of man. I can't help but compare the red words in the bible with what was emphasized in the ntcc. Most of what we were taught is nowhere to be found in the New Testament. Jesus said, "You make clean the outside of the cup and the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess."
How true is that about the ntcc. He said, "Those things that proceed out of the mouth, come forth from the heart". Paraphrasing a little here, He said that all of the bad things are born in the heart of man, evil speaking, murder, adultery, lying, fornication, theft and blasphemy. But to eat with unwashed hands?
To be continued....
Continued from above....
The ntcc is more concerned about what a person wears than how they treat their fellow human beings. As long as you can find a kook store to clothe your family with outdated styles from 19th Century, Great Great Grandma Elsie's dresses that were brought to the goodwill 50 years after she died when 5 Generations later someone decided to clean out the attic. Really, is this Christianity? Who are they trying to fool? They don't even sell clothes like the ntcc women are forced to wear in normal stores. Unless you want to dress like Tanya Kekel and show off every curvaceous wrinkle and crevice on your body.
But let's look at what's on the inside of their hearts. Do you really want to know what matters in the ntcc? What really matters? It's the money. Everything revolves around paying tithe and giving in offerings. The unforgivable sin in the ntcc is not giving your money to them. I've never seen an ntcc pastor preach one service without taking up an offering or without brow-beating people about paying tithe. That's where they're heart is, and it's not so the proceeds can go to lost souls either. If you think your money is going to lost souls, take one trip to Graham and you will see. If you still think your money is going towards lost souls after you take a tour of the Graham compound, you are a being greatly deceived to put it nicely, you are foolish. I don't want to call you a bunch of names so I will say it this way: "I was an idiot and completely blind as a member of the ntcc, because all of the money I was spending was making the ntcc leadership rich, right under my nose, and I didn't even live in Graham, or have anyone on the internet to tell me, but I heard comments like, "You should see the man of God's house" and "If you can afford one of these Motor Homes (Recreational Vehicles) you don't have to worry about how much fuel it guzzles." Well, how is it that they are able to afford such luxuries? Are they really just being blessed because they have sacrificed their services to God? Or did they find a bunch of suckers to con out of their money?
If it were all about being blessed because of "sacrifice" why didn't Jesus mention that in the Gospels?Where does Jesus tell his disciples to collect tithe and live in mansions? Where does Jesus tell his followers to lay up for themselves treasures upon this earth? "Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also". Where does Jesus tell people to collect money from the poor and give it to the rich? That's exactly what is happening in the ntcc, weather you choose to believe it or not. The bible that you say that you believe in contradicts the leadership of the ntcc, and if you give to the ntcc, you are enabling folks like Mike Kekel to buy more antique furnishings for his mansion, more musical instruments for his collections, another Rolex watch for R-dub because he wants the Presidential model, another Recreational Vehicle, another Henry rifle, another $400.00 Alpaca scarf for Tanya. Is that what Jesus called you to do? Is that what Christianity is all about?
I really enjoyed this one. You really put a lot of time into it and what you've written is so true. Unfortunately, too many NTCCers never figure it out. I thought about coming up with a few myself but quite frankly you pretty much covered it all. You guys are die hards I'll tell you that. I know we've done a lot of good and helped a lot of people see the light but there sure ain't much participation. So be it, life goes on.
I'll tell you how my life won't be spent. Trying to please a bunch of Pharisaical, judgmental, know it all, greedy, false doctrine teaching, NTCC leaders.
It's worth it Chief. Even if nobody participates, 100's of people are reading it. If they choose to ignore it, that's on them. They say you can lead a horse to the water but you can't make him drink. Our message is a lot like the Message that Jesus had for his disciples. Beware of the leaven (Doctrine) of the Pharisees.
We are not out here getting rich off of other peoples misery. There is no monetary reward, and there is no profit or gain whatsoever in what we do. There are so many people that have been hurt by the ntcc, and the leaders get richer and richer. They get up in their pulpits every week all smug and proud, pointing their fingers and talking down to folks like they have achieved perfection. They look down their noses at the very people they should be ministering to. They don't care about the poor, the homeless, the widow, the fatherless or the orphan. Their outreach is to people that make just enough money so that they can afford to pay their tithe and barely get by. Promise them that God will bless them in this life and the life to come, because they are so gullible and naive that they will not notice whose really profiting off of their sacrifice.
There is a sickness that plagues the ntcc and people refuse to acknowledge it. It's a huge cancer and it eats away at the entire organization, but when it becomes a threat to the leadership, they just amputate whatever part of the body of Christ that offends them. They don't ever try to make things right with God or those they call their brethren. They are completely obsessed with power, greed and financial gain. They are running the ultimate scam and people are oblivious to what's being done to them.
It's pure corruption and hypocrisy, but don't worry, nobody will catch on because they are too busy trying to live up to the standards of RWD and Kekel. As long as you work a full time job and attend 5 church services a week and participate in every function and pay your tithes and give in offerings, you won't have any time to figure things out. As long as you can be convinced that the ntcc is the last hope for a lost and dying world, and you are willing to participate in a system that rewards people for worshiping a man and punishes people for exposing hypocrisy, you will continue to believe the lie and the veil will never be lifted.
ntcc is an occult on steriods, however they do not make or ask there members to drink poison kool-aid, they do ask or make there members do suicidal bombings killing innocent people, nor do they sacrifice animals or any such thing, however they do seem to be based on a pyramid sceam where a few at the top get wealthy, while those who are in the middle and those at the very bottom keep praying, and giving, and hoping to reach that top level. The bible is being used to give the apperance of intergrity, and honesty but there true motives is to make money, more and more and more money and around miltary post is where you will find plenty of it, Davis use to say that he could sell a GI a boat a thousand miles from water, he also would say that he had a ministry of prosperty, which the bible speak nothing of, however it does speak of helping the poor, those who are down cast, the homeless, the sick, the lost ect. etc. When i read and study the NEW TESTAMENT i dont get where Jesus or the disciples was chasing after wealth.
with all of the servicemen home accross the US and Overseas, are there many milatary officers in ntcc Lt. Captain. Majors. Colonel, Generals if not i wonder why not? Aren't they in need of a Savior? Romans teaches for all have sinned and come short of the glory of God.
Anonymous said:
"Davis use to say that he could sell a GI a boat a thousand miles from water"
DnA said:
We've all heard Davis make statements like that and he'd get a big laugh from all the ministers and GI's too. RWD and MuCK are both in it for the money, and if you look at their lifestyles it's pretty obvious. They both live in expensive mansions and have just about anything money can buy, plus they have a whole bunch of servants/slaves that clean their houses and RV's and shine their shoes.
The ntcc pastors for the most part take advantage of the members of their congregations, and use them to make themselves look good. The goal is to be a "full time" minister. To do that many preachers will pump their small congregations for money. In normal churches you might see full time ministers in congregations that have over two hundred members but in the ntcc, I've been under pastors that try to go full time with as little as 10 or less tithe paying members. The way they do it is to pump those members for money and pressure them to bring more people to church. They pass the burden of the ministry down to their members and expect them to pick up their slack.
I've had several pastors that used to preach really hard about tithe because the pressure was on them to be a full time minister. I felt like I was obligated to give above and beyond ten percent and I was compelled to give more than my share. I was gullible and naive. I believed that these preachers were God's messengers and I did whatever they asked to meet their desperate demands.
You are right that this is a pyramid scheme. The ones at the bottom, (the members and some ministers) pay for everything. The ones in the middle, (The Servicemen's Home directors and some pastors) live fairly comfortable but never have anything of their own. The only ones that are doing good are the ones at the top.
It's pretty shameful what they do in the ntcc. You call yourself a minister but you are the ones that need ministering. You call yourself a servant of all, but all of your members serve you. You ntcc preachers are nothing but a bunch of whipped yes men, soaking your congregations for everything they are worth so that the higher ups can live in total comfort and luxury. You ntcc ministers say that you believe the bible, well you ought to read it more often and practice living it, because what you are doing is not anything close to New Testament Christianity.
Anonymous said:
"with all of the servicemen home accross the US and Overseas, are there many milatary officers in ntcc Lt. Captain. Majors. Colonel Generals if not i wonder why not?"
DnA said:
People that are successful in this life got that way from being smart with their money. They have usually worked pretty hard for their money and don't want to throw their familie's futures away to some con artist that is going to spend it on themselves. Most of us that were cult members had very little. We come from backgrounds that were in many cases abusive and we were wanting to be a part of something special. So along comes Joe Christian with a church card offering you a home cooked meal and eternal peace and happiness and we fell for it, hook, line and sinker. I'm not discounting God or saying that none of us needed a savior, but I'm saying that we were at a place in life where we did need God, but being desperate we were taken advantage of by wolves in sheep's clothing.
We were targeted by a bunch of scammers and con artists. That's about the only kind of people that the ntcc is reaching. Desperate people that are willing to do just about anything to belong to something important. That's what cults do and that's what the ntcc is really good at. They reach out to one demographic, and the rich, the well off or middle class and the poor do not fit into their scheme. It's the ones that don't have much, or that are in the military and have a little bit but are young, easily influenced and away from home. They end up getting used like a filthy rag. That's the way it is and will continue to be in the ntcc.
Davis could sell a boat to a GI in the middle of the desert. No doubt. Young GI's are gullible and I was one of them. For that matter, I was gullible as a relatively old GI. My trusting days are over. What made me specifically trust a church leader, I'll never know because I certainly didn't trust too many other people. Davis has a good scheme going and profitable.
Chief said:
"Davis has a good scheme going and profitable."
DnA said:
You are right about that. I think that Kekel is not in the same league as Davis. On a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being the best, Davis would get an 8 or a 9 and Kekel would get a 2 or a 3 at best. Kekel has a perfect model, (the one RWD set in place) to use for conning people out of their money, and if he would have stuck to the plan that was in place, he would have lost very few brainwashed members. Davis was the master and the only flaw in his plan was that he allowed Kekel to share in the riches, and Kekel got greedy and lost his focus. At some point R-dub decided to enjoy his Golden years and in doing so standards got compromised and Denis swooped in and got his piece of the pie. Ever since then Kekel has been building on sand and his empire continues to sink.
My opinion is that he is waiting for RWD to kick the bucket before he plunges the ntcc completely into "compromise". I think he is wanting to turn the ntcc into a mega cult.
I watched another episode of the Amish Mafia last night and it reminds me so much of the ntcc. The Amish have their own law and there is a ton of crime inside the Amish cult. There are drugs, prostitution, child molestation, homosexual child molestation, Adultery, Fornication, theft and you name it. It's all covered up by their version of Holiness. These people are full of wickedness just like the ntcc, but they keep everything in house. Unless the police have a reason to investigate, they leave them alone. They have parties where the young Amish commit fornication and smoke pot, snort Cocaine and sleep with prostitutes.
I'm telling you, "holiness" is a front for something far more sinister. I'm sure there are many Amish that go through the motions and are not involved in much of the crime but they have to turn a blind eye to it all like the ntcc. They remain slaves out of obligation to their corrupt leaders and are willingly ignorant and silent about the evil that surrounds them. Sound familiar? They keep their mouths shut and allow the mafia to police their society.
The TV show "The Amish Mafia" showcases it's leader named Levi who runs the Mafia in Lancaster, Pa which is where the largest concentration of Amish people in the United States lives. Levi gets rich enforcing his own justice. There is another guy named Merlin who is an X-felon (Drug charges) and he runs the Amish Mafia in Ohio. Merlin and his henchmen have been vandalizing and destroying Levi's property. In last nights episode Levi went to the elders of the church in Ohio and got Merlin "shunned". Being shunned is a lot like being excommunicated or disfellowshiped in the ntcc, except it appears that after six months you can be unshunned. Not sure how all that works, will have to wait till next season to see how that goes. But when you are shunned, you lose all of your customers and streams of income. You are not allowed to eat with anyone in the Amish community and they treat you like a big time sinner and reprobate.
These Mafia leaders do a lot of cursing and sinning throughout the show but they also quote scriptures and take advantage of people and get rich in the process. They operate under the pretense of helping the churches but they enforce their own laws and make a lot of money in the process.
The ntcc is just like them, except the Mafia leaders double as church leaders. The ntcc also delegates a lot of their dirty work to yes men that have sold themselves out and pledged their loyalty to ntcc leaders. When ever there is a crime in the ntcc, like child molestation it all gets brushed under the carpet by the ntcc leaders, and handled in house. Crime is allowed to take place in the ntcc, because the leaders at all levels in the ntcc are spineless and fearful. Going public with child molestation is a worse sin than actually committing the act in the ntcc. In most cases all parties involved turn a blind eye and allow RWD and his henchmen to handle it their own way. Sometimes they punish people by banning them and labeling them as reprobates. This type of shunning leaves the offender in a state of fear and rejection for the rest of his/her life. If the offender is a family member they often times take the nepotistic route, and if that family member agrees to keep their mouth shut, they allow them to stay and in some cases they get promoted and all of their sins are washed away.
The Amish have buggies or horse drawn carriages. A lot of sin takes place in those buggies. They race them for money, they traffic drugs in them, they pimp them out and last night they showed one buggy parked and it's occupants were "going at it", while the buggy was shaking up and down and back and forth. Most people in America look at the Amish and Mennonites the same way as they look at the ntcc. They are a simple, God fearing people and they keep to themselves and couldn't harm a fly. In the ntcc cult compound in Graham, the mansions are hidden and nestled in the woods, behind a locked gate and the only way to see them is from far off on a hill or on a dirt road behind their property you can catch a glimpse of the castles through the woods. While a city that is on a hill can not be hid, the ntcc hides their riches and fortunes the best way they can. A "non-profit" organization. It's all a big scam.
You better believe it's a big scam and anyone who who has access to all this information and still doesn't think so is a dummy. The NTCC is not much different than the Amish. Holy Schmoly. My foot.
Running around in a long dress, with long crazy hair, wing tips and a white shirt soul winning till you feet swell doesn't make you holy. Just keep feeding Kekel and Davis your money and see where that gets you. Heaven? Really? So lining the pockets of the hypocrite rich will get you to heaven? Really? Good luck and enjoy your wasted life. I have absolutely nothing but disdain for Kekel, Olson, Ashmore and Davis. They are nothing but a bunch of con artists who take advantage of young, dumb, ignorant GI's.
And in the words of the great hypocrite, R.W. Davis, "I could sell a boat to GI a thousands miles from water". Davis thinks you GI's are stupid and ignorant and frankly he's right about many. There's a sucker born every day.
He lives in his mansion next to Kekel and his mansion while you guys feed them yet more money like a dog eats biscuits. Yum, yum, yum, all the way to the bank. Bunch of dummies. Kekel, Kinson, Davis, Olson and Ashmore are about as "spiritually" holy as a piece of swiss cheese. The swiss cheese is more holy than all five put together.
The Big Swiss Cheese said:
"And in the words of the great hypocrite, R.W. Davis, "I could sell a boat to GI a thousands miles from water"."
DnA said:
"That's not the only thing he can sell to a GI. He will sell GI's a phony gospel full of Big Swiss Cheese Holes, also. For 10% of a soldiers income, Davis will sell you the a place in the ntcc cult. Yes, that's right, you can be a cult member if you fork over 10% of your income. You heard correctly, if you make 30,000 bucks a year, Davis, Kekel and the rest of the ntcc Schlubs will charge you only 3,000 dollars to impose a bunch of stupid and ignorant rules on your life. $3,000 is actually just a down payment and the minimum amount to get you in the game. We'll call it an "initial investment" in sales terminology. If all you do is pay 3 Grand, be sure that they will pump you for more, because if you allow that offering bucket to pass you every night without putting anything in it, you will not survive. If you only put one dollar in the till every service you will be labelled as a cheap skate. Oh and you might have to move into the home. That costed $150 bucks 16 years ago, not sure what they charge for that privilege now. If you don't choose to live in the home you will be singled out for having a problem with dedication. The home will be sold to you by a Davis wannabe. Oh, I almost forgot, you silly GI's, there are other funds and contributions that might not be labelled as mandatory but you will soon find out if you haven't already, how the ntcc has a way of pinning your butt to the wall and extracting more money out of you. Of course we all know that it's not mandatory, it's cheerful giving, wink, wink. The Building fund, if you love God and care about the church that you've been attending you will contribute too. And world missions, is another biggy that you don't want to miss, if you plan on going to any brain washing camp meetings or conferences, which'll put you out a few hundred bucks depending on how far you have to travel, how many mouths you have to feed and lodge. Oh, I almost forgot, you also need to set aside for the Man of Gawd that is scheduled to make a guest appearance at an ntcc cult center near you at your expense. Those Recreational Vehicles can suck down a lot of Diesel fuel, but who cares? When you can afford to drive one of those, you don't worry about the cost of fuel, besides it's all paid for by a bunch of stupid GI's that are dumb enough to buy a sail boat on the top of Pikes Peak. Did I mention the cost of fuel that you need to set aside for your own OPJ (Oil Puking Junker) so that you can make several trips on post per day if you care enough about the lost stupid souls of the dumb GI's that will be replacing your sorry butt when you wake up and realize that you have been Davises fool and decide to leave.
Have I forgotten anything? I would say that depends on how much money you have left after being soaked for everything so far. You see, if you have money left, there will always be a need. We took up offerings for a stinkin steeple on a rented church building that Davis vetoed after a certain amount was already collected and squirreled away somewhere. I used to be a stupid GI myself and there were many, many expenses. I was told by the purple witch, (Verna), that I should have been a millionaire, and was looked down upon for not having things put together. Oh, what about the 10% that all good leaders were supposed to put aside and the savings bonds that we were supposed to buy? Stupid is, as Stupid does, and boy was I a stupid GI. What did I get for giving close to or more than a hundred thousand dollars to the ntcc? Not even a sail boat on Pikes Peak. I wish I could have gotten something out of all those years and all that money, but unfortunately I was stupider than that. I got a few pairs of wingtip shoes out of the deal that I have long since thrown away and will never wear another pair of those uncomfortable clodhoppers again. I got some really uncomfortable Sweedish knit suits that I have donated to the trash man. For my money I learned how to treat less fortunate people like garbage and look down my nose at the poor. I learned a bunch of racial jokes. Yes I was a stupid GI, compared to many of my counterparts that now have large families an are retired military with pensions and GS 13 and 14 salaries to boot. I will say that thankfully, I got smarter and stopped wasting my money on making some cult leading multimillionaire real estate tycoons rich. It's too bad that we can't go back and erase the stupidity that we allowed ourselves to live in.
I like you use of King James English throughout the Beatitudes. It lines of perfectly with their "King James only" Bible version. King James was actually a very wicked man. Personally, I like the Geneva Bible but I'm not going to judge somebody by the version that they use. I suppose the attitude of the leadership at NTCC is "If the KJV is good enough for the Apostle Paul, then it's good enough for me!"
You-all bring up some very good points. I can remember vividly R'Dub constantly blasting Military people and criticizing them for many things. Now that I look back in my opinion it was a systematic psychological ploy that he used to beat you down.It seems like every service he was doing that. Back in the day, In his mind the common GI was of little use to him,other than monetary gain.
we were all blinded by a wolf in sheeps clothing, we were all blinded by a devil who manifested himself as an angle of the light. Davis statement about how he view Gi's was made close to thirty years ago and it was a red flag that alot of us did not see, however, as then and still today it is a true insight as to how davis viewe Soldiers/GI's and his ambitions to build his personal wealth off of the backs of GI's. Davis and others could see weakness in GI's so they take advantage of soldiers who wanted to be apart of something other than just military life. Years ago my floks hinted to me that i might be involved with an cult, however i did not listen because at the time we was being taught by ntcc leaders, that people from outside of ntcc would say that we are an occult so the reverse psychology that ntcc uses worked on alot of us and still do today. Davis bragging about being a use car salesman was also another red flag that some of us missed. I know longer view ntcc as a church, but as an organization that have found a way to make the leaders wealthy of the backs of unsuspecting GI's.
Please forgive the bad spelling
Disappointed said...
An organization that has found a way to make the leaders wealthy of the backs of unsuspecting GI's.
Chief said...
That's all the NTCC is. No more and no less and as long as you keep giving your money to the NTCC, you are fulfilling their intended destiny. Not my problem any longer. I just like telling NTCCers how ignorant they are and buddy they are some seriously ignorant folks.
There is too much verifiable information about the NTCC available on the internet for any logically thinking, sound minded individual to remain with the NTCC. Some folks just like being blind followers because they can't effectively think and operate on their own. And people like that deserve Tanya and Kekel. So like I always say; go to Kekel's house and clean up after him and Tanya; you SLAVES. It's good training. I need a couple dummies to come over and clean my garage. I'll even let you take up the offering or lead song service as a reward, LOL. Wouldn't that be an honor? LOL. What a bunch of dummies going to clean another woman's house. NTCC husbands, if your wife is going to clean the Kekel's house, your wife is being PIMPED by Mike and Tanya Kekel. You are getting played like a fool and you are a sucker of the worst kind. You are letting your own wife get pimped. Hey send her over to my house while you are at it. I got some dirty underwear that needs to be washed and a few dusty corners that need to be WIPED. My wife will point out all the dirt while your wife is on her hands and knees. I like having a steady supply of women coming over to my house to bend over and dust my hard wood floor. Just Pimpin.
Don't worry about the spelling. We are not going to grade you like an ntcs teacher or mock you like an ntcc preacher. We appreciate your input and you have made some very good points.
I also was around at the time Davis made that comment about GI's being stupid. He also admonished people in a conference to never let a GI work on your car, implying that GI's are stupid.
another red flag that some of us did not question was. Why ntcc is not an accredited school/semnary. Why did we belive the lies that we were told concerning why ntcc was not accredited? A school that is accredited would have to report child abuse, theft, fraud, corrupton etc etc. So if ntcc see's it self as a shineing light of intergrity, honesty and God fearing then why not be a credited oeganization.
I hear you Mark G. and you are definitely entitled to use whichever version of the bible you like. We use the KVG on this blog because that was the version that the ntcc used to preach at us. They always stated that the KJV was the only version inspired by God. They would call all other versions of the bible "perversions". They taught more perversion in their own mislead interpretations that were nowhere to be found in any version of the bible, that I had to unlearn most of what they taught. They focus on justifying themselves with outward works, while they beat people down with phony man made rules that are in place to control your life.
Disappointed said:
"Why did we belive the lies that we were told concerning why ntcc was not accredited? A school that is accredited would have to report child abuse, theft, fraud, corrupton etc etc."
DnA said:
The ntcc are experts in subversion because they corrupt and undermine the integrity of the ones they are supposed to be ministering to. They don't follow the rules of society because they have too many skeletons in their closets. They can't be transparent because they don't want to expose their own corruption. They risk allowing sexual deviant people around their children because background checks would expose the organization for what they really are.
Could you imagine if background checks were done on all the board members? Unfortunately, this will never happen. Davis has said, you didn't vote me in and you aren't going to vote me out. The ntcc is not a democracy even though they have taken votes in conferences. They exercise spiritual authority over people by placing fear in their hearts. The fear of hell, to be more precise. RWD could sway a vote in any direction he chose. That's why it's a cult and RWD and Kekel are cult leaders. That's what cult leaders do, they make people believe whatever they need them to believe for their own benefit.
In the process the ntcc mind control tactics not only blind people from what is going on inside this cult, but it causes people to treat their brethren and fellow human beings contrary to the examples of love that we find in the bible. Just about everything they teach and live contradicts sound biblical doctrine.
The ntcc bible school or seminary is not recognized as a legitimate educational establishment because the leaders do not want their agenda to be looked into by the powers that be. It's like everything else they do. They hide the truth behind a bunch of lies. Do you think that if they were honest with people up front, that people would attend their cult meetings? If when they were inviting people to church they were to tell them about tithe and "holiness", would anyone come to their services? It's a sales tactic to first sell people on the benefits of your product before they find out about the cost. The ntcc does this in all phases of their operations. The bible school is portrayed as a portal to heaven and anyone that is dedicated and faithfully seeking to please God is expected to attend. They fill you with propaganda while promoting their cult-like institute but they don't advertise the rules and requirements until you've committed to them. They hide the scary things from you until you get there. They don't tell you that you have to ask permission to date or speak with a member of the opposite sex. They don't tell you up front that you can't eat dinner at someone else's house without asking permission. They don't tell you that you can't ride in somebody else's car without asking permission. It's no wonder they are not an accredited establishment. They do not want the general public knowing what goes on in their corrupt organization.
Rear Wheel was always drubbing the soldiers...he would mock them for being know-it-alls, and talk about what he called "GI syndrome," wishing that he could buy them for what they were worth and sell them for what they thought they were worth. Man, if we could get that deal on his narcissistic ass, we could resolve the national debt! He was working us just like the pawnshops and pimps outside the post gates. You're right, Chief--we were total suckers, and I'm also with you in believing that it was a scam from the start. The "apostle" is as phony as they come, and I haven't forgotten the crap he visited on my family through his inane "policies" that were presented as salvation-issue doctrines back in the day. Down with NTCC and it's morally bankrupt leaders!
Hey Vic,
Well this comment got buried deep! But somebody else picked up on this theme of davis abusing the G.I.s.
You're right. rdub is a worthless narcissist. We would all be wealthy if we got paid what he thinks he's worth.
This line of yours, "He was working us just like the pawnshops and pimps outside the post gates." was
PRICELESS! That truly describes r w davis with his pimp Cadillac habit and gangster pinky rings! A pastor? Puh-leez! He's a hireling.
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