James T. L. Speaks Out Against The New Testament Christian Churches of America, Inc.

Recently while going through letters from the past we posted a couple of them on our blog.  One letter was from Mom and Pop Gaylord that gave a little insight into the inner workings of the ntcc while the other was from a dear Brother that was run off.  This Morning I found a letter that Trumps all.  This letter is very long and I won't post every word but would like to post some "snip-its" and comment on them.  The author of this letter is known to everyone that ever attended the ntcc and is of the utmost integrity and should be taken seriously as he is speaking not only to the ntcc but also to everyone who reads this.

"James, a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting."

Yes, that James.  As I read these five chapters this morning I couldn't help but notice the admonishments to the twelve tribes.  "Knowing that all scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness," Oh sorry that's from a different letter and must not apply to the ntcc because they sure do not live by it.  I could not help but notice the contradictions between what was said throughout the book of James and what the ntcc preaches, practices and lives by (or doesn't live by).

"Let the brother of low degree rejoice in that he is exalted: But the rich, in that he is made low:"

Who is the "brother of low degree" that is being talked about here?  So many times we witnessed the brethren of low degree being trampled on by the rich in the ntcc.  Oft times the brother of low degree was run off because he wasn't able to give to all the offerings in addition to paying his tithe.  The brother of low degree was ridiculed by the leaders of the ntcc for sending money home to help his or her family, which in some cases were widows and fatherless.  Oops, I'm getting ahead of myself.  We've heard it all, forsake family and friends, cut all ties with the world, let the dead bury their dead and so on.  I remember who got the crumbs from the table and who was given the keys to the Cadillac.  It was never the brother of low degree that was exalted or even regarded as a brother by the leadership of the ntcc.

The rich however were not made low in the ntcc.  The rich were the highly esteemed and the poor were dregs of society:  "Don't invite that beggar or that homeless person, or that drunk out to church.  We can't help them.  We are not set up for that."  What?  Not set up to help sinners?  Not set up to lead these of low degree unto Christ?  How many times have we seen the ntcc leadership helping the poor?  When is the last time we have seen anyone in the ntcc doing anything for their community?  Do they really preach a living Christ to a lost and dying world?  Only if the audience is young, impressionable,  employed, and able to be manipulated into a life of servitude to the rich, snobbish leadership of the ntcc.  Oh, yea, you also have to be able to give your unwavering loyalty to these rich, lofty, high minded and self absorbed individuals.

If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain.

Do they bridle their tongue when they lash out from behind the pulpit at folks and call out their names to  humiliate them?  Or do they deceive their own hearts?  Many in the ntcc are looking for praise from their 'leaders' and peers, and looking to be highly esteemed among each other.  While they love their own and seek riches here on this earth, they have no respect for the common person.  These rich religious hypocrites live on a compound and are unapproachable to the average citizen and even to many that give their life savings to them.  This is vain religion; and these people are so far from living the book of James that James himself would not be allowed on their compound.  If James, went up to rdub's fortress and rang the bell at his gate, an angry mob of preachers would be dispatched to throw him off of their property.

Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

Did James really say this?   Here we go.  Where do we start?  Does the ntcc leadership care for the afflicted?  Do they do anything for the widow?  Do they visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction?  Not that I've ever seen in the years that I've been involved with "that bunch".  They do not care about anything but money.  I'm talking about your leadership.  They have no concern for the widows and fatherless.  They want to be a father figure to many only so they can control them and get something out of them.  There is a motive behind everything they do.  Yet they say, "Oh, you are just bitter and everything is sour grapes with you X-ers.  Never anything positive to say."  "SHOW ME"  positive and I will speak positive.  As long as they keep trashing people we will have nothing good to say about them.  James said let every man be swift to hear, slow to speak, slow to wrath.  Does this describe the ntcc?  Was rdub swift to hear, slow to speak and slow to wrath when he gets in peoples' faces and points his finger at them, blasting them for what?  Many of the people he runs off are faithful and loyal to him above all others on this planet.  Is this Christianity?  Wake up ntcc!  This is pure hateful and divisive behavior from an old crotchety dude that has no tenderness of heart towards those that got him where he is today.  rdub is going off the deep end and is destroying his own organization from within.  If someone does not reign him in he will continue to run off the ones that love God the most; and the kekels' empire will crumble before their own eyes.

My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons.  For if there come unto your assembly a man with a gold ring in goodly apparel and there come in also a poor man in vile raiment:  and ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool:  Are ye not then partial in yourselves, and are become judges of evil thoughts?

What does James have to do to get your attention?  Does he need to come back from the dead and start calling out names?  When was the last time any of you ntcc'rs invited someone to church in vile raiment?  We were specifically told not to waste our time talking to them because they could not be reached.  If they did come to church they were shunned and definitely not allowed to sit next to the pastor in fellowship.  The ntcc doesn't even give the poor a chance.  If they are not potential tithe payers time is not wasted on them.

Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?


But ye have despised the poor.


Next time you go to conference, look around you.  Look at the leaders which you adore and ask yourselves, Do these people care about anyone but themselves?  Are the poor despised in your ntcc church home?  Oh we care about them and we even invite them to church every once in a while.  Then they pray for salvation; but are they really treated like a brother or sister in Christ?  Which leads us to this next admonition:

If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, and one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled;  not withstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?

Never have I seen this process take place in an ntcc church; nor have I ever heard of it taking place in an ntcc church.  Most poor people are considered unreachable.  But the people that are reached (the military) have reasonable means; because they are enlisted.  But they become poor lackeys; so rdub and his cronies can be made rich.  That's how things work in the ntcc.  How many people do you know that have been in the ntcc for a long time and actually have anything saved or put aside for their future?  Very few.  There are a few tightwads that survive the ntcc financial gauntlet; but they can be run off in a New York City minute also.  What is the phrase that we heard so many ntcc pastors say?  GOD WILL BLESS YOU, BROTHER OR SISTER.  And then they send them off with nothing except a condescending comment about if you paid your tithe or gave in offerings you would be blessed.

They have their own doctrine; and only those that fall in place and subject themselves to their policies and doctrines can consider themselves to be saved.

As I said this is a lengthly letter by James; and so far we've only covered two chapters. Although we could finish this letter by James, it would probably not go very far to open the eyes of the elite and the rich of the ntcc; so we are going to wrap this up now.  We're not going to read the whole bible to these people and break it down for them; because they already know what it says.  The problem is that they won't listen to James, John, Peter or Jesus.  They have their own doctrine; and only those that fall in place and subject themselves to their policies and doctrines can consider themselves to be saved.  Please do not get mad at us for posting this letter.  Take it up with the author; or the One that inspired him.  As we have said before and would like to re-emphasize, we are not the enemy here.  We point out true occurrences and give accounts of what we actually experienced in the ntcc.  If you think we are bitter and hateful because we speak the truth, then so be it; but we hope you can put your preconceived ideas aside long enough to see and realize that the ntcc and its leadership is leading you down a dark and deceitful path; and you are in for many years of abuse and hurt if you continue down that path.  We pray for you and the ones that will be hurt in the future by the harmful and destructive teachings of the ntcc.

True UNCONDITIONAL Love vs. ABUSIVE MANIPULATIVE 'Love': Why We Join and Stay in Cults

We have read another excellent article on the web site Religious Cults Info titled:

Adulation - the Drug of Choice

Here is one brief sample:  

"They say how grateful they are to be at WOFF, how grateful they are that Jane and Sam laid down their life and have done the work God called them to do."

Reading through, we realized that all we had to do was substitute ntcc in for WOFF and rodger w davis / michael c kekel in for Jane Whaley and the article became a "spot on" description of  ntcc:

"They say how grateful they are to be at [ntcc], how grateful they are that [davis] and [kekel] laid down their life and have done the work God called them to do."

And here is a second brief but insightful sample from The Author:

"Yes, like bookends, some folks may put a phrase like; Jesus showed me on one end and a thank you, Jesus on the other. But, the center of worship at WOFF is undeniably – Jane."  

Which transposes thus: 

"Yes, like bookends, some folks may put a phrase like; [The Holy Ghost] showed me on one end and a thank you, [Holy Ghost] on the other. But, the center of worship at [ntcc] is undeniably – [davis and kekel]."

At first it seems amazing to see the same methods used by the leader of a different abusive group resulting in the same praise and idolatrous worship of that leader; but in retrospect it only makes sense.  Con-men and -women use whatever techniques bring them the best result$, so no wonder if the methodology is the same! 

Another important point brought out in The Author's discourse was this:  "Why?"

People who have not been through the cult experience often ask this vital question: 

WHY DID YOU JOIN  AND STAY? 

To this we left the following comment:

"The answer, we feel, ultimately revolves around True Love demonstrated by the members and abusive, quantified (if you love me, then you will ______) demonstrated by the cult leaders.

As for the “Why did we stay and do what we did?” question, the answer is simple:

LOVE

We love(d) God and thought loving them was equal to serving God. They used our love against us for their own self-profiting reasons. It is a difficult reality to face having been used; but once we accept this fact it helps clear things up with respect to motives (theirs and ours) and actions (theirs and ours). Like any other user, a love-thief mimics the phraseology of the victims stating: “I love you.” knowing the victims will interpret that statement as meaning what it does when they say “I love YOU.”–unconditional love. But truly the love-thief only means “I love what you DO for me.” The true test of the love-thief’s statement comes when you stop performing to their standards or stop supplying their “fix”. Typically the love-thief will upbraid, ridicule, or ostracize you, proving they did not in fact “love” YOU; they only loved what you DID for them..."

This reminded us of an e-mail to another X-er where we probed further:

WE FELL FOR IT BECAUSE SO MUCH OF WHAT THEY TAUGHT WAS TRUE; BUT JUST AS sATAN ONLY CHANGED OR ADDED ONE WORD TO THE COMMANDMENT "THOU SHALT NOT SURELY DIE." THEY CHANGED AND ADDED TO THE SCRIPTURE TO TWIST IT FOR THEIR SELFISH AGENDAS.  

IT HURT(S) SO BADLY BECAUSE WE LOVE(D) THEM.

AND JUST AS IN ALL OTHER ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIPS,

THE ABUSER BLAMES THE VICTIM:

"LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO!!!"

Or, "You people make the rules." comes to mind, as often as we in ntcc have heard r w davis shout that at us.

--THAT'S WHY NOTHING WE DID WAS EVER GOOD ENOUGH FOR THEM. AND WHY THE RULES ALWAYS HAD TO CHANGE: "YOU PEOPLE MAKE THE RULES"--rodger w. davis.  uhn-huh, sure, whatever...

THE TRAGIC FACT IS THEY SOLD OUT CHRIST FOR FILTHY LUCRE AND NOW HAVE TO WRESTLE WITH THE CONSEQUENCES AS THEY USED TO WREST THE SCRIPTURES FOR THEIR "PRIVATE BENEFIT".

THEY WILL NEVER BE HAPPY AND CAN THEREFORE NEVER BE SATISFIED WITH THEMSELVES AND THEREFORE NEVER SATISFIED WITH OTHERS.

THIS IS POWERFUL STUFF.

THOUGH OBVIOUS AND BASIC WHEN SEEN FROM AN OBJECTIVE STANDPOINT, IT IS 'QUITE SOMETHING ELSE WHEN YOU ARE THERE'--PARAPHRASING THE OLD LADY SURVIVOR IN TITANIC AS SHE ANSWERS THE ALL-TOO-EAGER QUESTIONS OF THOSE WHO FOUND THE WRECKAGE. THEY ARE ZEALOUS, BUT HAVE FORGOTTEN THE TRAGEDY, THE REALITY OF THE ETERNAL LOSS OF SOULS.... SHE, HOWEVER, WHO WAS THERE, AND YOUNG AND VIBRANT AND IN LOVE, CAN NEVER FORGET WHAT WAS REALLY LOST. LIFE. LOVE. DREAMS. GOALS. SOULS.

ALL OF THIS ADDRESSES THE VICTIM'S SIDE OF THAT FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION: WHY?--TRUTH AND LOVE. THE ABUSERS ANSWER TO WHY: GREED. GREED FOR POWER. GREED FOR MONEY. GREED FOR CONTROL. sATANISM AT ITS CORE: I WILL ASCEND... I WILL BE GOD. I. I. I...[Isa 14:12-15, Luke 10:18] 

THE REST OF THAT THOUGHT ON THE ABUSER/VICTIM RELATIONSHIP IS THIS:

THE MIND-NUMBING, BONE-CHILLING, KNIFE-TO-THE-HEART-AND-TWIST-TRUTH IS:

WE, THE VICTIMS, ARE STILL WAITING FOR WHAT WILL NEVER COME: 

 APOLOGY and APPROVAL.

THE ABUSERS WILL NEVER ADMIT TO THE ABUSIVE NATURE OF THEIR ACTIONS.

THE ABUSERS WILL NEVER APPROVE OF THEIR VICTIMS. NEVER. (FOR REASONS PREVIOUSLY SHARED.) YOU MUST FIRST LOVE YOURSELF IN ORDER TO LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOUR.

GOD PUTS A NATURAL DESIRE IN PEOPLE TO SEEK ONE ANOTHER'S APPROVAL. THAT'S WHY THE LORD LOOKED AND HAD COMPASSION ON THE PEOPLE WHEN HE SAW THEM AS SHEEP WITH NO SHEPHERD. SHEEP, BY THE NATURAL DESIGN OF GOD, NEED TO BE WITH OTHER SHEEP; AND THEY NEED A SHEPHERD. WITHOUT THAT THEY ARE QUITE LITERALLY LOST.

sATAN, AS THE OPPOSER, TAKES AND TWISTS AND ABUSES NATURAL APPETITES TO FIT HIS AGENDA .  hE   USES "MINISTERS OF LIGHT", SO CALLED, TO AFFECT HIS WILL. NO MARVEL... RIGHT?  BUT IT GETS BACK TO 'OBJECTIVITY'-- VS.-- 'YOU CAN'T SEE THE FOREST THROUGH THE TREES.' 

THINK WE ARE GOING TO GO FOR A WALK AND ENJOY IT OUT IN THE SUNSHINE; SO WE CAN HEAR THE WHISPER OF GOD IN THE BREEZE SAYING, 'I LOVE YOU. NO MATTER WHAT MEN DO. I'M HERE. YOU CAN TRUST ME.' AND THAT, FOR OUR PART, IS WHAT WE ARE GOING TO DO. WE ARE GOING TO PRESS INTO HIS EMBRACE, LEAN ON HIS CHEST, AND KNOW HE IS REAL. HIS LOVE NEVER FAILS; AND TRULY, 

GOD'S LOVE IS UNCONDITIONAL! 

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A) Sounds Like A True Description Of ntcc.

B) ntcc Sounds Like A Cult.

C) I Read This Post.

D) Abusers and Manipulators say things like "If you really love God, you will do ___________for the "man of Gawd"...."

E) ntcc often requires members to do things that have no biblical basis, like cleaning the mansions of Board Members, washing B.M.s luxury cars and extremely expensive motor homes, doing the B.M.s country-club-style-lawns, shining the B.M.s hand-sewn-solid leather expensive shoes, etc. taking advantage of the members' love of the Lord for the B.M.s "private benefit".

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"F" I'm afraid to be caught commenting on this blog.

G) Glad To Be Out of ntcc.

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"H" ntcc manipulates members by playing on their love of God and saying manipulative phrases over and over such as:  "If you really love God, you want to ble$$ the man of Gawd."

I) I'm Thinking Of Leaving ntcc

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Should We Be Afraid?

 Super Piety 
 In the ntcc holiness is a badge of honor. 
 "LOOK WHAT MAKES US DIFFERENT FROM THOSE WICKED SINNERS".

One primary focus of the ntcc is to instill fear into the hearts of its members.  It's been shared by the ntcc that Jesus preached more about hell than he did about heaven.  There are, after all, only two choices in life that matter:  Heaven or Hell.  As X-ers we all share a certain amount of fear because of the fact that we once were members of a cult that used fear to keep us in our places for as long as possible.  Fear kept me in my place for thirteen years while I was in the ntcc and also fear controlled my life for fourteen years after leaving the ntcc.  A few months ago I was released from all that fear when God revealed to me that His plan of salvation has nothing to do with attending a cult or being super spiritual by living in accordance with the rules of the so called "Man of God" the most of which can not be explained reasonably by the bible.

In the ntcc we were very legalistic.  This is a word that I once thought was used only by God haters and reprobates but have since seen the true meaning behind the word.  The Wikipedia definition below accurately describes legalism that is practiced by cults and becomes destructive to all that subscribe to it.

Legalism, in Christian theology, is a sometimes-pejorative term referring to an over-emphasis on discipline of conduct, or legal ideas, usually implying an allegation of misguided rigour, pride, superficiality, the neglect of mercy, and ignorance of the grace of God or emphasizing the letter of law over the spirit.  Legalism is alleged against any view that obedience to law, not faith in God's grace, is the pre-eminent principle of redemption. Its opposite is antinomianism, which is the alleged view that believing in Jesus Christ is the only requirement for receiving eternal life.


While in the ntcc all of the sins and standards were emphasized much more than the Grace of God.  People were kept in their places by the warnings of hell rather than being allowed to grow in God's grace and to serve God out of love.  While Jesus did speak about hell it was mostly to the pharisees and hypocrites.  To sinner's, his followers and his disciples, Jesus spake less about specific sins or hell and condemnation then he did to the hypocrites.  Why are there very few if any references to Jesus preaching "holiness or hell" to his followers?  I would have to say that holiness is not a prerequisite to being saved.  In the ntcc holiness is a badge of honor.  "LOOK WHAT MAKES US DIFFERENT FROM THOSE WICKED SINNERS".  In all of the apostles' teachings and admonishments we never hear hell used as an alternative for those who don't follow their man-made policies.  There are lots of teachings concerning holiness but never is there a threat that comes along with those teachings that you will go to hell for all eternity if you do not live by these teachings.  In the ntcc we have "super apostles that know much more than the bible teaches and have added policies and new sins to the bible:


If you date someone you love without the approval of the super spiritual orator of the church you are living in sin.  While in the past we have seen fondling and child molestation take place in the highest places in the ntcc, is this really God?


Facial hair on a man is wrong for what reason or reasons?  I must be very rebellious because I purposely grow facial hair.


You are not capable of deciding who your own friends should be and who you can have over to your house because that is a decision that only a super apostle can make for you.  If you are so flaky that you need someone to decide this for you, than you might just belong to a cult.


If you love God, you will do things for the pastor of your church, like clean his house, shine his shoes, wash his car, mow his lawn, etc.  I submit to you that if your pastor loves you, he will be a servant of all and do those things for you.  


Each church will extract as much money as possible out of its members' wallets and pocket books because large amounts of money are required to support the lavish lifestyles of the super god-like apostles in Graham that live in an entirely different world than all of their loyal subjects.


When there is no biblical justification for the rules or consequences that are preached in the ntcc they resort to the "end all, know all" scripture that is constantly being referred to over and over in the ntcc:  


Hebrews 13:17 "Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your soul, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you."  I've seen this used to their advantage more than for the good of the church member.  What a great chapter to read and to take in context.  I will never advocate that you should disobey your pastor if he is leading you in the truth; but if the dude is making up his own rules and threatening you with hell as a consequence of disobeying him, you might just be in a cult and would be served well by getting yourself and your friends and anyone who will listen to you out of there quickly.  


Should we be afraid of these people and the doctrine they tried to ram down our throats?  I would say absolutely not.  We believe that they should be scared.  There are many X-members of the ntcc that are so afraid to speak out against them; and I can understand that.  But I will say this to those souls that are afraid.  Do you think that they care for you?  If you came back to them, do you think it would be a prodigal son moment?  I know when I came back to God it was, but I would not even want to think about what it would have been like if I would have attempted to return to an ntcc church.  Let's look at them for what they are.  If they are right, than we need to take quite a few scriptures out of the bible and throw them away.   If they are wrong, then we need to realize that and stop being afraid of them.  


I am not advocating that informing current members of the ntcc that they are in a cult is going to help them.  It wouldn't have helped me.  But I do think that standing up for what we believe in and not being afraid to disagree with the false teachings of the ntcc is a step in the right direction.  If we live in fear of the ntcc, it will not help anyone but them.  They want us to live in fear.  They don't want us to post things that bring attention to their corruption and would love nothing more than for us to go away.  We will bring attention to their evil ways over and over and over again because they have built their kingdom upon the souls that they have discarded and they prosper because of the thousands that are no longer with them.  Have they sought us out one by one to get us back? No. Neither will they.  They don't want us back because we have been used up.  They want new blood that has many more years of life that can be shaped and formed into what best serves them.  


We are X-ers and we feel it is our moral responsibility to bring to light what the ntcc wants to keep in darkness.  We will continue to shine the light into the abyss of the ntcc and maybe others will see the light and escape.  From thirteen years of experience written by an ex cult member we continue to warn and admonish current and ex cult members to escape for your lives while you still can.  There is life outside of the ntcc; and we are are determined to live it.

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B)  Sounds Cultish

C)  I Read It

D)  ntcc puts too much emphasis on outward appearance

E)   God saves by grace

F)  Create Your Own By Leaving A Comment:  Example:  "F"  ntcc rules contradict God's Word 

G)  Glad To Be Out of ntcc

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I)    I'm Thinking Of Leaving ntcc

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ntcc: A Money-Making Pyramid Scheme

In a comment on our thread titled "Dog Show or Winterfest" April said,

"BUT,have you really been called of God? Ntcc is a Organization based on FALSE teachers. So how can it be of God?"

That's a good question April. The answer is that they "have a form of godliness but deny the power thereof." I believe that there are people saved in the ntcc, and called to preach even; but there is so much other garbage going on that God can't move. God can't bless unrepented of sin. When people gather together and call on God, God moves. But this is all they have to hang their hat on is "a feeling."

When I was in the ntcc, I believe that I was saved; but it was a shallow, restrictive Christianity. We were too critical of everyone around us to be effective. This critical attitude was taught and nurtured by the pastors in the Servicemen's homes and imitated by the members. But guess what? Do you think that the pastors learned this behavior on their own? It was taught to them by davis, kekel and the rest of that bunch up in Washington.

I used to bring carloads and vanloads of people out to church; but what was I really doing? Not only were they run off by the Holier than thou attitude we had, but we probably turned them away from ever wanting God. People like you and me still got saved; but how could God have blessed us in an environment where so much tearing down of the brethren took place?

I know I had good intentions; and I'd like to think that I led people to Christ. But just about every person that I know of that I invited to church has been run off. Out of 13 years of work, and bringing thousands of people to church, can God not keep one person? I'm not bragging about how many people I brought to church, but just trying to figure out what happened to them all.

I think that the ntcc is built like a multi-level marketing pyramid scheme. The highly esteemed rdub was a salesman at one time and if you look at the model of AMWAY or NIKEN or any other pyramid scheme, you'll find that they are cults in and of themselves.

They introduce you into their sales gimmick without telling you all the details up front. You have to go out to one of their meetings first. (Sound familiar?)

Then they try to make you feel that you are going to be a part of something unique and special. (Love Bombing.)

They show you the success stories of the rich and famous within their organization. (Supposing gain is godliness. So that you can have men's persons in admiration because of advantage. [So you can admire them, and suck-up to them because of the money and power they have.])

And tell you that it's a numbers game. You don't have to do any sales yourself, all you have to do is get them out to a professional sales pitch meeting (church); and the ones that have the experience in convincing people to spend money on stuff they don't want will get the sales for you (preachers / hirelings)...

Oh, and by the way, there is an initial investment (building funds, church budget offerings) usually over a thousand dollars and a monthly investment that they now call autoship (tithe and offerings), where you buy $100 per month of their product to get to the next level. If you get ten people to one of their meetings, one person will show enough interest to get ten more people out to one of their meetings; and then it's supposed to multiply.

But what you end up with is:

• A bunch of suckers that have spent thousands of dollars on a bunch of worthless junk.
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• And 99% of the people involved never succeeding.
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• And 1% that are getting filthy rich off of the work off the backs of a bunch of suckers.

That's how ntcc works:

• You invite droves of people out to church.
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• And one or two might get genuinely saved.
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• But then after years of being beaten down they end up leaving.

What have you accomplished?

You brought thousands ($$$,$$$) in tithe to the church; so that the fat cats in Graham could support their lavish lifestyles!

They sing about victory in Jesus, but where is their victory? They might have some conferences that God supposedly moves in; but after the joy and the worked up frenzy is gone then comes the plowing and beating down of the brethren.

It's all about the very few prospering off of the very hard work of many. Let's say ntcc has 10,000 people in it now: 9,000 are just "playing church" and 1,000 are truly dedicated; and 900 of these 1,000 of them will be beaten down and left for dead. What you have left is 100 that are either the rich and affluent or the few hold outs that think one day "they too will be like mike" [kekel].

ntcc is a pyramid money-making scam. Nothing more, nothing less. It is evil of them to dress it in robes of religion; but that is what satan does. He acts like he knows God's word better than you do [Thou shalt NOT surely die.] he spins a lie, hoping you will bite into the forbidden fruit and perish.

But we don't have to fall for satan and ntcc's devices. We have the Holy Spirit to teach us the truth, inspiring men and women to expose these FALSE teachers in ntcc; just as April has pointed out.
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C) I Read It

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E) ntcc is a pyramid money-making scheme designed to make a few families at the top very rich while the majority of workers live sacrifice and poverty

F) Create Your Own By Leaving A Comment: Example: "F" ntcc leaders may preach Jesus, but they WORSHIP the 'almighty' dollar

G) Glad To Be Out of ntcc

H) Create Your Own "H" If you cost ntcc money, they will discard you to protect their true love, money.

I) I'm Thinking Of Leaving ntcc

J) Create Your Own

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Why mike kekel Deletes So Much Of His Blog... The Rest Of The Story

The mUck FluSH

"Like a scared drug dealer who runs to flush his drugs down the toilet...

mike  kekel has recently purged his blog(s)..."  Here's a link to a back-up copy of mc kekel's "feel good" blog, compliments of Deb or Greg:  m c kekel's blogspot before (and after) his recent "purges"  Some of the entries have photos which will appear as blank boxes. Simply click on the empty box to see the picture.  Enjoy!  kekel's admission to his purges appears in the Sep 25, 2010 "Changes" post in which he declares he needs to "Reset a positive direction for the blog."  We ask:  Why was it necessary to "reset a positive direction"?  kekel has confessed his own negative nature.  Look carefully at the posts made prior to this date to see for yourself...  

Like a scared drug dealer who runs to flush his drugs down the toilet when the police pound on his door demanding that he open the door, mike kekel [mUck] has recently purged his not - so - feel - good blog(s) trying to gain an image of normalcy, trying to hide his hateful heart, trying to cover up who he really is and how he shamelessly operates smear campaigns, spreading lies and deceit in an attempt to discredit those who eXpose the truth about the ntcc..


Originally this was a comment response Ange / Sassy made to some comments on the previous thread entitled Why are the X-men such a threat?  On that thread a fellow X-er, Gregory, quoted m c kekel: from kekel's blog:


"...for the blog means talking about what I want to talk about." m c kekel


"...comments were posted (this includes the libel, and the second and third hand testimony/hearsay [kekel] posted..." observed Gregory...


Ange (Sassy) says, yes, libel and second and third hand testimony IS what kekel wanted, when he wanted it, where he wanted it...

Right now (as grant kekel starts his secular college education) his dad, mike kekel, wants a blog that  LOOKS normal.  No doubt friends and family of the kekel klan outside of the weird ntcc CULTure have taken a recent interest in what ntcc's 'golden boy' has for a 'church' blog.

Right now (as grant kekel starts his secular college education) his dad, mike kekel, wants a blog that  LOOKS normal.  No doubt friends and family of the kekel klan outside of the weird ntcc CULTure have taken a recent interest in what ntcc's 'golden boy' has for a 'church' blog.  kekel knows how embarassing it would be for his son, grant, to have to try and explain to friends or a girlfriend just what a freakish environment the kekel's and grant's grandpa, r w davis have kreated and passed off as a church...


Try to explain to a normal human being why a 'church' blog would be full of libelous attacks against Christians...


Try to explain why literally thousands of couples have no children because your grandpa, who adopted two* children, taught that "children hinder the work of the Lord" ... *[One child, Tanya Tanya Maxamillia Reynolds (davis) was officially / legally adopted.  The other child, Carl  Sensabaugh was not legally adopted and departed the ntcc.  It is noteworthy that nobody in the davis / kekel klan ever mentions Carl.  Ange spent lots of time around davis in the Lodge during her nine year tenure with ntcc, and Carl's name NEVER came up.  Sad!  I wonder if kekel refers to his wife's unofficially adopted brother as a "reporobate" or "hater" or "enemy" or "mutant" as kekel typically refers to other eX-ers?  (See the labels kekel attatched to his post "Who are the X-men?"]


Try to explain the pain your grandpa inflicted on literally thousands of women, condemning them and saying,


"Lady, you're going to have to answer to GAWD


 [face the severe wrath of God]


 for RUINING YOUR HUSBAND'S MINISTRY!" 


(all because the poor woman was pregnant...)


Try to explain how your father ignored those teachings of his own father-in-law and got your mom pregnant with no fear because, as your mom thoughtlessly quipped to one poor man who got a vasectomy because of her daddy r w davis' "policy" [rule],


"michael [kekel, your dad] isn't getting a vasectomy; [shrug] it's different when it's your kid [giggle]."...


grant kekel try to tell your girlfriend that your parents never said and did those things?  If you do that would make you a liar like your father, mikey, who has tried to deny endorsing the vasectomy policy for others while raising you, an apparent "exception" to  your grandpa's hypocritical "children hinder the work of GAWD" vasectomy rule ...


How embarassing to try to explain all these hypocritical double standards and your father mikey kekel's hateful, libelous, bitter [pre-Sep 25,2010] blog...


We're not surprised that kekel's deleting finger has been very busy now that grant is taking another step into the world that was denied to all the other ntcc children who were under the teachings of kekel and davis...


We're not surprised that kekel wants to "clean up" his blog and try to LOOK normal...


I won't be surprised if mikey kekel again goes into damage control / libel mode, perhaps on his  "private" blog link - privileged members only?  when the first impressions have been falsely set in the minds of grant kekel's right-now curious friends...  kekel will do exactly what he wants, when he wants, to whom he wants, no matter how damaging it is to others.  It's the kekel way and the davis way.


But it is NOT the Christian way.


Nor is anything about kekel.


He just hurts people to gain money and power,  just like his father-in-law davis always did.


There is no denying these facts.


That's why the many blogs exist to point out the lies, and hypocrisy, and double standards etc. rampant in the cult called ntcc / New Testament Christian Churches of America, Inc. founded by r w davis and run by his son-in-law m c kekel.


Now YOU have "the rest of the story"


Sassy / Ange and Don

Vote Anonymously On This Post By Clicking On The Lettered Boxes Below:

A)  Sounds Like A True Description Of ntcc.

B)  ntcc Sounds Like A Cult.

C)  I Read This Post.

D)  It's Hypocritical To Teach Others That "Children Hinder The Work Of The Lord,"  When You Are A Father Of A Child / Children.

E)   I think michael c. kekel deletes much of the content of his blog because mike knows how embarrassed grant kekel will be when his friends read about the CULTure of the new testament christian churches of America, inc. [ntcc] founded by grant's grandpa  r w davis and now run by grant's daddy michael c. kekel, ntcc's ceo.

F)  Create Your Own By Leaving A Comment:  Example:  "F"  I'm afraid to get caught commenting on this blog.

G)  Glad To Be Out of ntcc

H)  Create Your Own:  "H"   I think kekel's deletion of  his blog[s] is dishonest.

I)    I'm Thinking Of Leaving ntcc

J)  Create Your Own:  "J"  I'm afraid to leave ntcc.

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