Wisdom from the Past and Present

While reading some of the topics on old Factnet, I found many topics that are very telling of cult behavior in the ntcc.  Some of this stuff has been rehashed on the blogs fairly recently; and other things have been forgotten.   I figure now is as good a time as any to bring up some of this stuff.  Our hope and desire is that people that attend the ntcc or are thinking about attending will see the warning signs and red flags that are waving in their faces and get while the getting is good.  Here are some of the topics that are worthy of repetition:

 Purdy Pweez Pastor
 Massah May I ... ??? 

1.  Asking permission.  Pastor is it alright if I go over to another brother's house to fellowship with him?  Pastor is it alright if I get a ride to church from another brother?  Pastor is it alright if I call a former pastor or member of the ntcc church that I used to attend?  Pastor, is it alright if I go visit my parents?  Pastor is it alright if I go to my father's funeral?  Pastor is it alright if I take a week off and visit relatives on the way to conference?  Pastor is it alright if I use money out of the general fund to fix the leaking roof because you won't allow me to use any of the hundreds of thousands of dollars sitting around in an escrow?  Pastor is it alright if a brother answers the church phone when I'm using the bathroom and my wife is slaving over the hot stove and doesn't want to burn dinner? Pastor is it alright if I get a job that requires me to work a few hours on Saturday if it doesn't interfere with the church schedule? Pastor do I have to pay tithe on my income tax returns?  Pastor is it okay if my wife goes to the hospital to visit a sister by herself?  Pastor can I ask that almost divorced sister if she will talk to me 'on the wall' tonight? ~"Sure, brother, go ahead."  Pastor can I ask that single sister if she wants to talk to me 'on the wall' tonight?  "No."  Pastor, Pastor, Pastor?

The sad thing is that most of the answers to these questions are "No!" or "You are going to do whatever you want to anyway!" --  using fear to make you decide against doing what you think is right.

2.  Quotations:

 with his Rolex and
 diamond pinky rings
 all davis needs to
 complete his pimp
 davis outfit is the
 fur coat and hat
 ensemble ~ r w
 wouldn't want
 a n*gg*r to show
 him up, right? 

     a)  "You might as well get saved because if you live in this house  you are going to live by my rules."  ~The 'great apostle' [yeah, right, whatever] speaking to his adopted half-Filipina daughter in all his wisdom~

     b)  "No one on earth cares about souls more than I do."  ~another quote from R W Davis that could be true only if you look at people as money like rdub does ~ [ahem]

     c)  "Don't expect me to get all excited when you tell me your wife is pregnant."  ~R.W. Davis, with the exception of the birth of his grandson Grant Kekel.  ~

      d)  "...N*gg*rs..." ~ rodger wilson davis proudly proclaims from the pulpit his twisted view of all African Americans, including those he exploits as Uncle Tom token blacks. ~

     e)  davis taught he saw a preacher loading his wife in a fur coat into a Cadillac.  davis declared he wanted to "know what that man knew".  But davis was really saying he wanted what that man had (coveteousness / lust of the flesh, lust of the eyes, and the pride of life.)  And now he has it; thanks to his system of con-games. ~

     f)  "Everything I have now, God gave it to me."  ~RWD's quote can be translated:  Everything I own now was purchased with your tithe dollars .  He's not satisfied with the Jubilee model Rolex you already purchased for him.  Now he wants the Presidential to show off your sacrifice = stupidity.  ~

     g) "You must have taken a whole bottle of stupid pills." ~ rw davis rails on the ministers in another semi-annually required conference that forces men to lose their jobs and struggle on in poverty while giving all they have for another r w davis mansion to be built.  ~

     h)  "What is told to me in confidence will go with me to the grave."  ~RWD and others have betrayed Pastoral confidence of their church members and used the pulpit to publicly blast people on the very confessions they made in confidence. ~

      i)  "There is only one teacher in this organization, everyone else is just an extension of my ministry."  ~Rodger Davis ~ [how humble]

      j)  "Brethren, this organization IS Pastor Davis."  ~Joe Olson~ [Need we say more?]

Many of the above quotes were mentioned on Factnet by various people; but I and many others have heard them also.  We could write a book about all the material covered on Factnet; but we are going to keep this short and sweet.  If anyone would like to contribute feel free.

Would Jesus Wear A Rolex? What Would Jesus Do?

Here in our little corner of cyberspace we blog about our experiences in the ntcc; and we share stories of what we have endured and what others have endured as members of a destructive cult, the New Testament Christian Churches of America, Inc.  NTCC / NTCCA.  The average person, who has no experience in a cult, probably doesn't understand much of what we write.  To the 'leaders' of the ntcc, these blogs are a threat.  The members of the ntcc that follow these 'leaders', are warned not to frequent our blogs.  These faithful followers of men are told that we eX-members of ntcc, the Xers, are "evil" and "full of hate".  But that just ain't so.  And,  despite these worthless warnings, there are many people 'IN' the ntcc that want to hear what we have to say; and they read or follow the Xer  blogs.  Many times people have looked at what we do as hateful, unnecessary, and evil, saying that we are "bitter" and "need to get on" with our lives.  That's just more of the loaded cult jargon they have been programmed to regurgitate.    There are many who anonymously insult and try to refute us.  They do so anonymously; because they don't want to get caught participating on a blog that speaks out against the ntcc and because they have been ordered to stay off the blogs.  There disobedience to unlawful orders is encouraging.  We were once a part of this group.  We know that once they start reading the blogs, it is just a matter of time (on average 7 years), and they too will be blogging against the ntcc false doctrines and fake religious 'leaders'.  We understand.  We are here to share the truth with people so that they don't make the same mistakes that we did.  Instead, they can free themselves from the ntcc bondage and enjoy Christianity without legalistic leeches pumping them from the pulpit for more cash to fund the insatiable appetites of the materialistic ntcc 'leaders'.

Spending years of your life in a cult is a mistake of disastrous proportions.  This is very hard to see when you are a member of a church that proclaims they are "the last hope for a lost and dying world"; and you are convinced that the ntcc is God's only church.  Obviously we are the last people that someone in the ntcc would want to listen to; because we have been demonized by the ntcc leadership as God haters and reprobates.  We are not here to try to get you to stop serving God or to tell you how to live.  And, because our credibility has been damaged by the ntcc in the eyes of many that read, we ask you not to believe us, but to believe the bible.  We ask you to take a look at the words and actions of Jesus, and the disciples who followed him, and the people whose lives were touched by him.  Try to put aside your bias and everything you've heard about us and just compare the ntcc with the New Testament Church found in God's word.  A common teaching in many churches to include the ntcc is to ask the question what would Jesus do?  Let's look at what Jesus did and what the ntcc is doing.

Jesus did not seek wealth nor did he live in luxury.

Mat 19:21  "Jesus said unto him, if thou wilt be perfect, go and sell what thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me".

r w davis covets a Rolex 
 Presidential on sale for 
$18000 regularly $21000 
with diamonds,  rubies, &
so much more (than yours)
because that's how it is 'in'
YOUR  ntcc! *Give! Give!*
 I wouldn't even give r .w. 
 davis the time of day, much 
 less Another Rolex Watch! 
 He already conned you schlubs 
 (like I was) out of one Rolex! 
rdub, it's time to stop 
 robbing the churches 
 for your private benefit! 
 Get a REAL job! 

Would Jesus Wear A Rolex by Ray Stevens? on YouTube


The ntcc is supposedly a non-profit; but the leadership has benefited financially. Did you know that the borg buys a new Cadillac every year for R W Davis and the Board Members cars are also purchased by the NTCC?  Did you know that the Kekel's have been seen driving around in very expensive cars?  Did you know that RWD is trying to get ministers to take up a collection to buy him a Presidential Rolex watch at the price of nearly $20,000.00?  Did you know that most of the ministers in the ntcc have no health or life insurance policies; because they can't afford them.  And for years ntcc 'preached' against insurance for the non-board members. Most ministers in ntcc have very little or no savings of any kind; but much of the money that they did have has gone to support the selfish and materialistic life styles of the so-called 'spiritual' 'leaders' of the ntcc. Did you know that most ministers in the ntcc put everything they have into the churches they are assigned to in hopes of reaching the lost?  Meanwhile most of their tithe dollars end up in Graham, WA, supporting the luxurious life styles of the rich and infamous 'leaders' they follow.  Does any of this sound like behavior that you would find in the first four books of the New Testament?  You know; the red letter section of the bible?  What would Jesus do?  Do you realize how far these 'leaders' are from doing what Jesus would have done?

Mat 8:20   "The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the son of man hath not where to lay his head."

The ntcc is supposed to be a Christian church; and Christ often spoke of helping the poor.  ntcc preaches against helping the poor!  They teach their ministers "We don't do that."  It's even part of their doctrinal statement.  davis has lectured not to bring the homeless or poor to church, saying "You don't build a church that way!"  Also, did you know that the ntcc has no known charities that they give to?   And the borg 'leaders' are completely unaccountable to anyone as to where money actually goes?  Did you know that the ntcc has taken up offerings for specific purposes and spent that money on other things without being transparent?  Receiving money under false pretenses is illegal.  Do you really know where all of your World Missions dollars are going or have gone?  Do you trust somebody that requires you to give until it hurts while they have sacrificed nothing?  What has Kekel ever sacrificed?  Do you see a pattern here?  Do you really think that Jesus is pleased with this?

Lego The Good Samaritan
YouTube

Mat 23:3   All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.

Jesus and his followers were real.  They warned of hypocrites that would come and pervert the word of God.  Jesus warned us of people that would talk a good show; but their works would be contrary to their speech.  Did you know that RWD and Kekel have required much more of their followers than what they are willing to live themselves?  Did you know that many ministers in the ntcc have not sought higher education and that they have restricted their own children from educational opportunities while Kekel's son and RWD's Grandson has been attending the most prestigious private schools, academies and colleges in the country, on your dime?  Did you know that many of you that have deprived your children of their futures by not allowing them to participate in activities such as sports, have taken money that could have gone towards your own child's college education and given it to the ntcc so they could spend it on Grant Kekel's future?  Here is a small list of the fraction of rules that the ntcc has required of you, but they themselves have broken these rules, because they say and do not.

devilvision ^.".^

1.  Watching TV used to be a sin and was preached against.  The Television was referred to as the Devil-vision.  Kekel allowed his son to watch DVD movies on his computer monitor; and now many preachers have favorite movies listed on their facebook pages.  RWD told MDR to turn his hotel TV around; so he could watch it.  This after years of preaching against TV!  They say and do not.

sinner-net 

2.  The internet was referred to as the Sinnernet.  The internet was preached against; and people were blasted for surfing the Web.  People were falsely accused of looking at porn so the ntcc could keep people offline.   But now the ntcc runs many blogs and websites; they are on FaceBook and Twitter.  They use the internet for damage control to contradict our blogs that expose them for what they are:  Hypocrites who preach against the very things they do and demand that others do what they won't (like soul-winning).  They say, and do not.

3.  Women have been told that they are supposed to be in subjection to their husbands; that they are not to have jobs; and that they are not to usurp authority over men.  Tanya Kekel has a job that involves usurping authority over bible school students; and women overseas have been told to get jobs to help support their husbands' ministries!  I guess God was not able to provide.  They say and do not.  

4.  Women are not allowed to wear make up while the Executive Board members' wives wear foundation to cover their rosie cheeks and wrinkled faces.  Many women were brought to tears because they were blasted for wearing make-up.  They say and they do not.

5.  Jewelry was preached against and forbidden to the average church member while many of the Pastors in the ntcc were prodding their church members to buy them 7 diamond cluster pinky rings and Rolex watches while Board members' wives would wear broaches and trinkets on their clothing and shoes.  Can you see the hypocrisy?  What would Jesus do?  I guarantee you that he wouldn't be hanging around folks like RWD and Kekel.

We could go on and on and write volumes on this subject.  We hope that you would take an honest look at what the ntcc leaders are all about.  Search the scriptures and see if you can find examples of the excess that we see in Graham.  None of the apostles lived in excess and what we see in the ntcc is contrary to the Word of God.  There are many people who have left the ntcc who have realized they were in a cult.  Where double standards exist, you will find profiteering.  Where rules are enforced by those who themselves disregard them, you will find hypocrisy.  Tell me that Jesus would condone this.  Somebody please come on this blog and tell me that Jesus is pleased with the ntcc and what they have become.  Show some examples of how the ntcc leadership has sacrificed and helped the poor and done the things that Christ would do.  They are hearers of the word and not doers.  They are like whited sepulchures which outwardly appear beautiful, but within are dead men's bones.  They take advantage of your good nature and Christianity and have used it to become wealthy.  

Next time you have questions about the sincerity for your leaders, just ask, What would Jesus do?  Next time you get raked over the coals for something that is not in the bible, see if you can find a precedent in the New Testament that supports it.  It's really simple.  Did Jesus care what people looked like?  He preached against what the Pharisees wore (long robes, broadened Phylacteries), but didn't tell people what to wear.  Don't let some hypocrite dictate standards to you.  If it's in the bible trust it, if it's not in the bible, ask yourself, is this something that Jesus would require?  What would Jesus do?