A Time by Don and Christine Potter On YouTube
Seasons change and so do people; but God remains the same, except in the ntcc. In the ntcc there is also a season for everything. A time to love bomb and a time to hate. A time to gather up stones and a time to throw them at God's people. A time to marry and a time to divorce. A time to hide sins and a time to expose them. A time to collect tithe and a time to spend it. A time to share the truth and a time spin it into a lie. A time to build themselves up and a time to tear others down. A time for them to get rich and a time for others to get poor. A time to go soul winning and a time to cast those souls away. A time to trust and a time to betray. A time to play with minds and a time to play church. A time to pat someone on the back and a time to stab them in the back. A time to plow and a time to pluck up that which was plowed.
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Ecclesiastes 3:1-15 [ To see those verses hover cursor over the bible verse text or click here ]
God's seasons are consistent and serve many useful purposes while the ntcc's seasons are erratic and serve only one purpose. God desires that all might be saved while the ntcc picks and chooses who to allow into their fold and who to cast out. God cares about the poor and sent His son to do miracles in their lives while the ntcc despises the poor and the only miracles that are performed are the ones that make your money disappear into a black hole. The years of your life continue to melt away while the wealth of the diabolical 'royal' families increases.
The standards are all subject to change. Davis declared the ntcc as God's chosen people who would stand in the gap and make up the hedge for an unchanging God in an ever changing world; but that was just a facade; because everything that Davis claimed to be standing for was destroyed when his scam was revealed by the blogs. The ntcc damage control campaigns could not change the underlying knowledge that Davis betrayed the people that he claimed to love. The voices of the those who Davis threw to the wolves have spoken out; and the ones who were cast aside as sinners are more righteous than rw ever was. Davis might have stuck to his guns until death; but when his hypocrisy, which was once hidden behind an outward cloak of man-made holiness, was revealed, he stepped down and installed Kekel as his heir apparent. The ntcc began to go downhill after the Denis split; because it exposed the double standards that were hidden for so long. The split was too big and the cuts were too deep to hide. Ever since the split, the graduating classes of the ntcc brainwashing academy have yielded less hirelings.
About that time Factnet came into being and people who were silenced all their spiritual lives were allowed to speak. The ntcc tried to defend its indefensible positions and even Kekel got in the fray by posting as the 'Whirlwind'; but the more they tried to stem the blood flow, the deeper the wounds became and the more blood was lost. The cold hard truth about the ntcc was out in public for everyone to see and now people knew that it was never about God. It was never about souls. It was never about love for one another; but it was about a select few greedy individuals scamming people out of their money. The ntcc was a cult from the get go. In the midst of this turmoil we find the true motives of the ntcc come to the surface. Kekel was the chosen one, chosen by Davis by virtue of his relationship with Tanya. Kekel is not good at many things, but he is great at spinning the truth and justifying the changes that were sure to come. In the midst of the turmoil Kekel was chosen to carry out the true plan and vision that Davis had and that was to continue to build a financial empire that would continually turn a profit and allow greed and power to overshadow the naive and gullible people who actually believed that Davis had an honorable cause.
It was time for change in the ntcc. There is no way that they could have kept the money flowing after being publicly exposed and humiliated on FACTnet. Who better to bring about change than Kekel, the master of disaster and spin? The man who tried to cover up the ntcc's past by using weasel words that downplayed the severity of the false Davis doctrines; referring to them as policies that were misinterpreted by the masses to have eternal consequences. While those very 'policies' were in effect the ntcc made no effort to stop the vasectomies. They made no effort to stop the divorces. They made no effort to own up to their own sins, but they allowed the charade to continue as people filled with guilt compensated for the falsely imposed condemnation by pouring out the contents of their bank accounts as an offering to the ones they thought represented God. How else could the ntcc keep the money flowing? Getting your money was their true purpose and intention. They were just hiding their lust behind the pulpits.
Those loyal to Davis were willing to turn a blind eye to his indiscretions and ignore all of the sexual improprieties. Surely these loyalists would follow the Kekels; would they not? The standards are all being openly compromised; which would never have been acceptable during the Davis regime. Compromise was fine in Davis' day; but it could never be open compromise! The blogs changed all that. Because the true motives of the ntcc leadership are continually being exposed and the holiness or hell doctrine is only used to drive unwanted threats like Danny Brill away from their families so their lives can't speak to the ntcc remnant.
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Don't be surprised if more changes are brought about in the near future. In the midst of all this change, please don't be deceived by eyewash. The ntcc can be likened unto a stinking outhouse with a can of air freshener that mixes with the putrid smell in a futile attempt to mask it, only for the Mountain Mist scent to dissolve and be overpowered by the original stench of the outhouse's contents. This might seem like a vile comparison; but even the Bible speaks of such things; for Isaiah said all or our righteousness is as filthy rags; which is translated as menstrual cloths. The ntcc has given great occasion for the world to blaspheme God; because they have used God to obtain wealth - filthy lucre. They have sacrificed or slaughtered the weakest of the flock that they were charged with protecting just so they could gain more money. The only change that would make up for their treachery would be for the entire general board to step down and all of those who have profited or abused people to leave. This will never happen; because hardened criminals never repent in groups.
Since you can't change the ntcc, your only reasonable option is to free yourself. Don't waste any more of your life giving them the time of day!
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36 comments:
You can't teach an old dog new tricks.
That's the phrase rw used to give his blessing to the ntcc to begin a new era with help of the internet.
Blessing or not we all changed because of it.
I remember somebody in conference talking about facnet and didn't have a clue what that was about.
People begun to start looking up and there was no turning back.
We were oblivious to the fact that we were living in a bubble.
I remember the first time we clapped for somebody, maybe the new people now don't have a clue what I'm talking about, but I remember that we were taught that clapping to honor somebody was wrong that it was a form of worship only used for God and so the first time at a conference when we clapped for something I forget what it was about but we clapped and we looked at each other like we were gonna be struck from heaven, it's crazy just thinking about it.
Anonymous said:
"I remember the first time we clapped for somebody, maybe the new people now don't have a clue what I'm talking about, but I remember that we were taught that clapping to honor somebody was wrong that it was a form of worship only used for God and so the first time at a conference when we clapped for something I forget what it was about but we clapped and we looked at each other like we were gonna be struck from heaven, it's crazy just thinking about it."
DNA said:
Many seasons have past since we were in the ntcc, but I don't ever remember clapping for anyone. We offered clap offerings to the Lord and we screamed and shouted during church, sometimes clapping or dancing. I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with getting excited for God but we often felt like it was expected of us to do these things and we worked ourselves into a frenzy thinking that this type of induced behavior was something God wanted from us. Clapping for singing performances was never allowed in those days, but I guess the seasons have changed yet again in the ntcc and they are now allowing it. It was definitely considered an act that honored people above God. Usually after a touching performance the response would be, "Let's all raise our hands and worship God".
Clapping was one out of a thousand different forms of etiquette that was frowned upon. Sleeping was forbidden. Paul healed a dude that fell asleep and fell out of a loft and died. The ntcc would let you die and use you for an example of judgement for what happens when sinners fall asleep in church. Not that they ever had any success with healing folks in the first place. You can't be to quiet or they'll say that church service was dead. You can't sing out of tune or you will be criticized for not being able to carry a tune in a bucket. You can't read your bible in church. Why would anyone even bring a bible to church, except to look religious? Don't roll your eyes at the preacher. Don't shake your lips at them either. Make sure you wear your Sunday's best when you play church with the ntcc. Sit next to the new cult indoctrinee that you brought to church. Make sure you put something in the offering plate or you'll really get plowed. Don't chew gum in the house of the Lord. Make sure you don't do any nose work in church, (blowing your nose or picking boogers with a handkerchief". Don't allow too many fat people to sit on the same pew. Don't forget to wear deodorant. Make sure your socks match. Make sure your colors match. Shout amen when the preacher get's excited. Don't frown. Use breath mints. Don't look at your song book when the hireling is preaching. Don't go to the bathroom during church, hold it in. Make sure your children don't make a peep during church. Make sure your children don't fidget during church. Don't make Goo Goo eyes during church. Don't wear your clothes too tight, don't wear your skirts to short, wear a belt and don't skip any loops, no jeans, no sandals, no flip flops, no sunglasses, no hats, no facial hair, be on time, be prayed up, paid up and ready to go up.
Davis would always sit on the platform scowling over the congregation so that he could jack someone up for their lack of church etiquette. Everyone tried to duplicate this fault finding attitude and little policies became rules that would bring ridicule and humiliation to those who violated the nitpicking hypocritical letter of the law.
You crack me up with the "prayed up , paid up , ready to go up" but everything you listed is true.
How in the world did we get through all that!
Remember when you had to bring your own toilet paper to the conference bathroom ?
http://news.yahoo.com/ex-members-church-where-teens-beaten-talk-decline-142926191.html
Churches are getting worse all around us.
I straight fell asleep during alter call and tried to play it off even though half the church had left... I still have to chuckle about that one.
Exhaustion sucks.
cults aren't getting worse they already stink.
Churches are turning into rock concert big box commercialism.
Who knows what to believe anymore.
Mike
Well, praise the Lord, there was 7X hotter air at the recent conference, judging by Mike's whinging about "turncoats," "fair weather friends," and "false brethren:" https://mckekel.wordpress.com/author/mckekel/ .
Isn't that just vintage NTCC boilerplate propaganda? Ooh, people have "turned away," but just stay in the boat and remain"faithful" by forking up the top ten percent and you won't wind up wandering the earth as a miserable reprobate. Sounds like they're pulling out all the stops to stem the departure rate. Attendance must have been down.
In other news, we just found out there's a "work" here in Fairbanks now, meeting at a local hotel. I'm wondering if the $10,000 we raised for the building fund will finally be restored, or will it continue to be malappropriated? I bet they don't knock on my door.
As a member of the "Turncoat" club I'd just like to say does anyone who attend really enjoy yelling with your hands held high?
Does anyone really enjoy knocking on the doors of people you don't really care about?
Oh crap do we really have to get baptized in a lake and sing songs next to the beach with people watching us?
Wouldn't you rather have a Starbucks "Beastmode" coffee once in a while instead of giving your last few bucks in offering?
Come on man, you're 7XColder than you think and you know it.
Enjoy the life you've been given and stop being a slave to Kekel and company!!!
Mike
It's funny how that mk turned that 7x hotter saying around to describe his wife on their anniversary.
Such good description for a holiness woman.
"Turncoat propaganda"-Us /them: the best way to to describe myself from my view, I am definitely not part of the organization that would rather kick Jesus out for not conforming to man's traditions than forsaking self aggrandizement and allowing Jesus to be the rightful enthroned King. NTCC equals organized religion. Absolute power corrupts. I'd rather have Jesus than world wide fame, I'd rather have Jesus than anything"
The approval of NTCC means nothing to me. Dung as far as I'm concerned.
Turncoat: a person who deserts one party or cause in order to join an opposing one. synonyms: traitor, renegade, defector, deserter, betrayer; Judas, Benedict Arnold; fifth columnist, quisling; informal, rat fink
Here we have Kekel referring to anyone who leaves the ntcc as a turncoat. Leaving one cause and joining another might be considered by some as a betrayal, but sometimes you have to look at the big picture. Schindler and many others betrayed Hitler. Moses betrayed Pharoah when he chose to suffer affliction with the people of God rather than to than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season; Esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt. Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego betrayed King Nebuchadnezar when they wouldn't bow down and worship his gods. I guess they were turncoats also. Even when the furnace was 7x hotter they still would not bow. By Kekel's absolute definition, if you didn't attend his money grubbing 7x hotter caucus, you are a betrayer of God.
Don't worry about this. You are much better off without them. Since the ntcc loves to fill their Twitter and Facebook pages with quotes, here is one for them, "Enlighten the people generally, and tyranny and oppressions of body and mind will vanish like evil spirits at the dawn of day."
Thomas Jefferson
Don't give them another cent of your money. There's a reason everyone is leaving and it's not because they are turncoats or Judas Iscariots. People are being enlightened to the tyranny and oppression that they are living under. What Kekel is doing has nothing to do with God. Kekel is profiting off of your labors. If you are being jacked up for not giving enough while Kekel hoards your money you are being oppressed. Leave. It will be an improvement. Don't let these hypocrites rule your lives. Don't let their double standards continue to go by unnoticed. Leaving Kekel is not leaving God. Leaving the ntcc is not leaving God. Free yourselves from this tyranny.
Don, as you know, many have made their decision and have chosen to serve the organization and not Christ. Yea, they think they are serving Christ but so does the mormons, JW's, christian scientists etc... The NTCC had potential at one time in my opinion but morphed into a selfish and self serving family Business. Those in it who want Jesus more then anything to include man's opinion of them will forsake the NTCC in due time. Until then I will rejoice in my freedom and servitude I have in Christ. The NTCC is a business based on self development and man's ability which is why no revival has ever broken out other then a few one or two week revivals generate d by the zeal of man and then desire to build a org rather then His kingdom.
Yeah Kekel used 7X hotter to describe his wife on their anniversary and then took a 2 week trip on your tithe dollars to go tour Greece and Italy. Don't forget in the bylaws that they get paid vacations!!!
In my opinion there is only one reason they would tour Greece and Italy: To scope out real estate.
Check out some of these images for Greek real estate by copying and pasting the following url:
https://www.google.com/search?q=greece+real+estate
Or simply click here: Greek Island Real Estate
Now look at the real estate market in Italy:
https://www.google.com/search?q=italy+real+estate+for+sale
Italian Gems
The convenient thing about Italy's northern border is it offers a short trip across the Alps into Switzerland. Our opinion is that after each conference, someone in the ntcc has made a fast trip to Europe to make massive deposits of cash or other assets into personal Swiss bank accounts with their names, not the church name, on the account. And, naturally, these trips are all paid for on your dime. Dig deeper. The ntcc rich aren't wealthy enough.
For those who want to balk (like a mule), responding with doubt toward us and blind faith in the ntcc Board members, we ask: How do you know?
There is NO ACCOUNTABILITY required of the ntcc Board members. That is foolish. While they micro-manage your money, time, and private life, they flit about unaccountable to anyone. That is irresponsible and looks evil. If they have nothing to hide, they should quickly and gladly answer any and all questions regarding their travel and church finances. If not, ask yourself: What are they trying to hide?
If you ask us, something smells fishy in Denmark. Or Italy. Or Greece. Or Graham. honest churches publish financial statements detailing inflow and outgoing expenses, including travel of 'leaders' paid for by the congregation. Remember, folks, all these so-called leaders were broke without two thin dimes to rub together when they came into the organization. Anything they have now came from you. Shouldn't you know where all your pennies have gone?
Anyone checking out the Greece and Italy links, you might need to click on the "Images" tab to see pictures rather than links.
Let them go to Italy and Greece with the all the Muslims. They'll get what's coming to them over there.
Hey with as much money as she probably inherited she should be more than hotter, or do you think all the investments and money the founder left was put back into the church fund for the lost souls cause? Not,
Let's pack our bags after a tiring and overwhelming conference, let's tour the world!
That rotten couple with their rotten son can fall off of a cliff for all I care...
They've openly compromised everything about that church while pastors and their congregations are afflicted with the bill.
Eventually the wrong person will realize how much of his/her life and money were wasted and there will be a reckoning.
Anonymous said...
That rotten couple with their rotten son can fall off of a cliff for all I care...
They've openly compromised everything about that church while pastors and their congregations are afflicted with the bill.
Eventually the wrong person will realize how much of his/her life and money were wasted and there will be a reckoning.
DNA said:
I don't know if there will be a reckoning in this life or not. The evil often prosper while the righteous suffer. Davis lived over 8 decades and made it past the average life expectancy, but if heaven is filled with people like him, then there will be a whole bunch of other liars and con artists in heaven, for God is not a respecter of persons. Davis's own saying will probably haunt him throughout eternity. "You can't burn the candle of life at both ends and blow the smoke in God's face". Davis was speaking of deathbed repentance, but he was in need of repentance much more than your average Joe. He always said that to repent you need to do a 180 degree turn around from sin and make things right with the people you have sinned against. Davis never made any attempt to make things right with the thousands of people that he ran off with his tithe or hell doctrine, which is not biblical, nor did he try to make things right with the thousands of people that he ran off with his holiness or hell doctrine which he and his family never lived by. There were many offensive doctrines that were preached in the ntcc that did not have their roots in the bible but were used to tear down and destroy people and their families.
Anger towards these self righteous borg leaders is normal because of what people have gone through. I understand this. I'm not sure that wishing that they would fall off a cliff is a healthy idea to dwell on, but at the same time, David wrote psalms and said lot of prayers against his enemies. If they were all to walk off a cliff there would be another abusive jerk waiting in the wings to take the Kekel's place. There are too many people that were brainwashed by Davis who are ready to fill Kekel's shoes and control the financial empire that Davis built. Kekel's shoes wouldn't be that hard to fill as long as you are heartless and willing to climb over the carnage of others to obtain your wealth. Who wouldn't want to go on all expense paid vacations to Greece and Italy on someone else's dime? The only prerequisite for filling Kekel's shoes is that you have to be willing to dump on people and be self centered enough to let the masses suffer in poverty while you are living high on the hog. Make them all think that they are blessing God with their gifts while you and your materialistic wife joke about them while being taxi'd about through the canals of Venice. While they are able to take these frequent romantic, (barf), trips whenever they desire, you would be considered lucky to spend your honeymoon guarding the ntcc cult compound. Once again, your tithe dollars at work.
Bryan Hill said:
"Don, as you know, many have made their decision and have chosen to serve the organization and not Christ. Yea, they think they are serving Christ but so does the mormons, JW's, christian scientists etc..."
DNA said:
This is true. At some point people in the ntcc you have or will be expected to do things that are against yourr better judgement and your gut instincts. You might be in the ntcc and feel strongly that God wants you to do something or not do something, and then along comes Olson or Kekel telling you to pray about doing the very thing that you feel conflicted about. They will convince you to go beyond your convictions and you will ultimately cave in because the goal is not for you to be led by God, but rather for you to be controlled by them. If you are loyal enough to go against your own convictions and do things that they want you to do, they will push you beyond those limits. Here's a good example:
"Pray about giving to world missions. There are lost souls around the world and you might not be able to witness to them but if you can play a role in their salvation by giving to world missions. Pray and let God speak to your heart about contributing to our vacation slush fund, Oops, I meant to say 'world missions fund'." So what Davis used to do was have a Jerry Lewis type telethon, without the telephones, and pull at every ones heart strings by placing guilt trips on people for mismanaging their money. So after Davis throws his check for 3,000 dollars into the offering bucket, everyone begins to think that their money is going to actually save souls, so they deprive themselves of more money and give until it hurts. They sacrifice for what? Not for the work that Tom Wright was doing in the Philippines. He was rejoicing over the fact that some church members chipped in and made a pew to sit on because they couldn't afford any pews. It definitely didn't go into supporting the Mackerts who lived in a 9X14 slum with a toilet that had no seat. That was actually an upgrade in comparison to their previous dwelling. Where was all the world missions money going when people were living without adequate food shelter and clothing overseas? I've never heard of any preachers getting assistance from the ntcc overseas. I'm not saying that it never happens but that slush fund they are calling World Missions never seemed to help a lot of people. Neither did the escrow funds that were collected from the congregations, only to be zeroed out while the Kekels were obtaining more toys and luxury items. Woe unto you ntcc self appointed apostles and hypocrites, you money grubbing phony religious liars! Olson and Kekel are just modern day Pharisees and cult leaders that are enabled by a whole slew of underlings that are striving to be hypocrites just like them.
They have top leadership touring Europe while Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan writhe in their sorrows and agonies. This is the stuff leanord ravenhill would point out in his books to show the numbnes s of the church and then empty a vial of stern warnings of Gods wrath against cold hearted and materialy bloated christian leaders.
Lets see, two round trip tickets first class I'm sure is a pretty penny. The dollar is not worth as much as the euro so with every meal and cup of coffee consumed is like taking money and burning it, not to mention the possibility of the whole trip being consumed on the altar of fleshly desires. But hey, its your tithe dollars hard at work, not mine. Hehehehehe!
In the past, it has been shared, such trips included shopping sprees for fine crystal. Coffe and food is nothing to these wasters. Why should they trifle over such with so many "strong backs with weak minds" (as they call you ntcc folks) who willingly empty their wallets into the ntcc coffers, never knowing where all that cash is spent. Crystal from Europe collecting dust in your mansion? Fine. $250,000.00 Mercedes McLaren SLR sitting in your mansion's garage? Great. Phil kinson spending it at that whore house where he had to retrieve his wallet? Super! Let's give some more so God will bless us too! Oh, wait. Doesn't the bible say that they who give to the rich shall surely come to want? (Prov 22:16). Why, yes it does! That doesn't sound like a blessing to me. And what ntcc calls 'being blessed' is nothing more than greed and materialism and, frankly, has closer affinty with ungodliness: click here for bible verses
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Stephen Diggs is this years OBJ...
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Oh, and NTCC still sucks.
Mike
"You can't burn the candle of life at both ends and blow the smoke in God's face".
I heard him say it thus: "You can't burn the candle for the devil all your life and then blow the smoke in God's face."
I feel sorry for the grown up children of the lifers, the people who where "born" into the NTCC, they don't have much of a chance to see the light and get out, married off at 16, having children, minimal education. They in my opinion will never get out, they are so deep in this cult how can they ever get out. Born into a cult church, they don't have a chance.
We understand what you mean about these cult kids now grown adults with no eXperience other than the warped cult life. Yet we hold out this hope: They, just like the rest of us, can learn to trust God more than man.
The Bible assures us when we are His, we KNOW the voice of God and follow Him:
My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: [John 10:27 KJV]
It also demonstrates that there is a time to act WITHOUT asking for man's permission or approval:
But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called [me] by his grace, [Galatians 1:15 KJV]
To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood: [Galatians 1:16 KJV]
Neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus. [Galatians 1:17 KJV]
The Bible records that there is a time to leave parents in order to secure God's blessings and promises:
Now the LORD had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee: [Genesis 12:1 KJV]
And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing: [Genesis 12:2 KJV]
And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed. [Genesis 12:3 KJV]
So Abram departed, as the LORD had spoken unto him; and Lot went with him: and Abram [was] seventy and five years old when he departed out of Haran. [Genesis 12:4 KJV]
Since we are "preaching to the choir" (in other words, we are talking to people who should already KNOW these things) we won't belabor the teaching about Lot and Haran and partial obedience hindering or delaying God's blessing. These things have been over-taught, so to speak. There remains only the APPLICATION of the knowledge. DOING the RIGHT THING.
OBEY GOD. 8-)
And why would you care about the ones who farmed you out to the match made for you by the founder's wife? It just seems like these ntcc girls are eXploited in order to earn a feather for daddy's cap. Let's bargain our daughter to earn the approval of man... Your so-called father was all too pleased to hand you off to your husband in a ceremony involving vows made before God. Why, now, are you in such a hurry to break those vows to God? Tell us; who is more important, man or God?
For years you wanted to hold the bag for the likes of davis. Don't whine now when you get caught holding the bag. Judas.
I'm sure brill wasn't holding any bag full of money when he was deserted by Regina, and as far as the comparison to the judas character he was never in charge of anything while he was in the ntcc.
At least he's free from all that drama!
Don't be jelly of his freedom!
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