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When someone says "Get over it!", they are often implying that they think you are too involved in the ntcc X-er cause or that your involvement in the X-er cause is interfering in some way with the life that you were meant to have. There are a lot of X-members of the ntcc who feel what we do is 'negative' and serves only to bring up the bad in those ntcc'rs who are still in. Some even go as far as saying we are just like the ntcc because we don't agree with their assessment of things.
When someone says, "You just need to move on", they are usually implying that you have not moved on; because they believe your involvement in exposing the ntcc is hurting you and making you less of a person than you should be.
We have a question for those current ntcc members and X-members who believe what we are doing is wrong or negative. Why does our dedication to the cause of exposing the ntcc bother you? I have to assume that the people that are questioning us feel like they have it all put together and that they have learned to move on and get over it. Why is there a need to correct and rebuke if everything is so great in your life? If you are doing as well as you claim, why do you read the blogs? Hmmmn?
The first step to moving on is to understand what we went through in the ntcc. We all left for various reasons, but the majority of people that have left acknowledge that things were not right inside of the ntcc. There are a number of people that blame themselves; like I used to. They will tell you that everything was their own fault; like when a guy breaks up with a girl and says, "It's not you; it's me." That is an easy way out and does not address the underlying issues. This is the way I used to think. From the time I left the ntcc until the time I discovered the blogs was about 14 years; and I suffered needlessly during those years. The reason I was suffering was not because I was drinking or smoking or going to bars; but it was because I thought that my soul was eternally damned. And I thought there was nothing I could do about it.
The very thought of going back to the ntcc evoked memories of the unreachable expectations that would be required and the endless brow beating that a soul has to endure to be accepted in the ntcc. The ntcc conditioned you to believe that if you left their controlling group, you were leaving God's church. If you leave their organization, you never do it on good terms.
There is nobody that has left the ntcc that Kekel or Davis ever spoke highly of. I have never heard an ntcc pastor speak well of someone who left the ntcc or that they were even right with God.
In fact, they would say, "Don't visit that person any more because they are crossed up with God. They went out from us; because they were not of us." Thank God they were not of the same cruel and ruthless hearts that the ntcc leadership molds so many of its pastors to become! We were all conditioned to believe that if we left the ntcc, there was nowhere we could go and be right with God. And so it didn't matter how many times they said, "We don't believe that we are the only church going to heaven." Because those were just words. The ntcc actions paint a very different story. When a person went to another church, they got jacked up every single time in the ntcc. If someone wanted to leave the ntcc, they got jacked up and accused of loving the world more than God every single time.
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When I visited the blogs and began to learn about things that were done by the ntcc leadership, I began to realize that they were not living for God like they claimed. They were using the church as a front to profit off of church members who paid their tithe and gave in various offerings. At first I thought that people who blogged were just hating on the ntcc; until I realized that much of what they were saying was based on facts and supported by a whole bunch of witnesses.
So what is the true meaning of moving on or getting over it? It's realizing that you don't have to apply the false teachings of the ntcc to your life to be a Christian. It also means that you realize that the ntcc false teachings are not what God requires of a person.
Not being bound by the ntcc's legalism is the best way to move on with your life.
That's the true meaning of moving on. We don't have to live in fear or condemnation just because we don't give our money to an 'organization' whose leaders are getting filthy rich. We don't have to give our money or time to any group to be saved; because salvation is a free gift. The change in your life should compel you to love others and show kindness to your neighbor; but outside of that, all the sacrificial mandatory payments are nowhere to be found in the New Testament. Even when the Apostle Paul took up offerings, he never said that if you don't give you are hell bound. It was never required or mandatory giving; and it didn't go towards making Paul rich.
Getting over your ntcc experience is not the easiest thing in the world to do. Can we give you a hint? Moving on has nothing to do with visiting X-member blogs and finding fault with moderators because you don't agree with their approach.
Getting over the ntcc has much more to do with identifying ntcc false doctrines and not allowing their legalism to control your life.
We are glad that so many people have found their way out of the ntcc. It is a testimony to the ntcc's inability to keep people in their controlling system. Getting out of the ntcc cult is one the most important decisions that you can make.
For those that feel we are just like the ntcc because we don't have tolerance for the way ntcc treats people, nor for the people who agree with ntcc; all we can say is that we are sorry you feel that way. Have you looked in the bible at how Jesus dealt with the hypocrites? Would you presume to rebuke Him or say He was being just like them? Sometimes you just have to call a spade a spade, a duck a duck, and a hypocrite a hypocrite. Jesus went even further. He called them snakes and vipers. Would you say He was just being 'negative'?
For those who feel we are being "negative", don't blame us; we are just communicating what we have witnessed. We are here to share what we have been through and what other people share with us. That is not being "negative". It is simply reporting about all the bad (negative) things that the ntcc does to people. It is the ntcc that is negative.
The best example we can give to drive this point home would be journalists who risk their lives to cover Isis terrorism. Those journalists feel passionate about exposing Isis; so they report all of the atrocities that are committed by Isis. During the course of their reporting they share testimonies of people who have suffered and lived to tell about it. They will say in their articles what the person shared and why they believe that it is a true account. We're sure that Isis and their followers might say to the journalist, "You are just being negative." We are sure that Isis would tell the survivors of atrocities, "You just need to get over it, and move on with your life!" But the journalists and survivors believe in the cause that they are committed to - exposing Isis. They feel an obligation to warn others about how destructive Isis really is. While we are not risking our lives, we feel that the ntcc is a pretty destructive group also; and we are passionate about doing our part to expose them so others might live free of the bondage, and some lives might be spared who would otherwise perish from the legalism, false condemnation, and resultant death that ntcc creates.
We feel that the ntcc leadership are spiritual assassins. They use scripture to lead people to Christ; but once those souls get on board, ntcc introduces false doctrines that cause these Christians to surrender their freedom and finances for the sole purpose of allowing the ntcc leadership to achieve wealth and the power to control a group of people. Once ntcc has milked a person for all that they think he or she is worth, ntcc disposes of them and leaves them feeling spiritually destitute and alone, not trusting anyone in matters of faith and without hope forever. That's exactly how I felt for 14 years; and I was so glad that I finally learned the ntcc's true motives. This knowledge made it so much easier for me to see that there was still hope and realize that the ntcc's willingness to get rid of people was centered around their ability to continue deceiving the masses rather than the impending judgment of God to each of us who left. I got over it, and have been moving on for five years now.
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While I'm close to moving on I think I will always participate in the blogs. It's not enough to just move on when the guilty parties are getting away with hoodwinking good soldiers, civilians and the like while the fat cats get fatter. Holy crap, they're proud of how fat they are, just look at the mansions they have. Not homes, mansions. Fine the man of god should be taken care of, whatever. But the countless preachers out there slaving away are literally dying of cancer and preventable diseases because of the sorry, unempathetic morons in charge of this criminal enterprise.
Bottom line: There must be a reckoning. There must be justice for the abused.
Kekel, you're a scumbag just like your pathetic father in law.
Sorry, forgot to sign the last blog entry... MIKE
Get over it?
What?
The lost years? The wasted time with family? The lost family? The broken family? The abused family? The lost money (found by the people living the high life). The hypocrisy endured? The bullying?
You people that say you've gotten over it are like the rape victims who don't come forward to prosecute the abuser only to let them move on to the next victim. You're as bad or worse. You're cowards!
Mike
Mike said:
"You people that say you've gotten over it are like the rape victims who don't come forward to prosecute the abuser only to let them move on to the next victim."
DNA said:
The ntcc creates the rape victims, therefore they are much worse. It's very common not just in the ntcc but also throughout the land for a victim of sexual abuse to keep it inside. It's a very personal and demoralizing thing to talk about. Keeping it inside and not going to the police does enable the predators to continue victimizing others. That being said, I can understand though I do not agree. It's maddening sometimes when people blame the messenger for the actions of a licensed minister. Some folks are more concerned about us getting on with our lives than they are about children getting raped. That's just the way it is.
I've allowed myself to get drawn into arguments about this very thing and by doing that it detracts from our purpose. I would actually entertain some of those disputations if they had any substance, but sometimes people just try to push your buttons because they can and it takes the attention off of what really happened. There will be a few that accuse us of having tight control over the blog but what we are doing really isn't any different than what Chief does on his blog. When people start preaching at him he starts hitting the delete key. I'm not in the ntcc anymore and don't have to put up with people preaching to me. I think last month we deleted three comments from one person that wanted to jack me up. We deleted 2 or 3 other comments that were so far off topic that we couldn't even tell if they were spam. We publish a lot of comments that we don't agree with and we let folks share their opinions. So in the grand scheme of things, for the past 4 to 5 months we have deleted about 2% of the comments that people have posted. Before that we had one or two people that would leave extremely distasteful comments a couple times every week, and we are not going to publish that. As far as profanity goes, we have been letting it slip through once in a blue moon but we really are trying to keep it clean. If you read the Factnet posts, Tracy's blog, Debs witness and Chiefs blog back when it was really busy, there was little to no profanity and lots of people were blogging. We are not trying to legislate morality, but when ntcc'rs see profanity, they leave. We want ntcc'rs to read this material. If you submit a comment and it has profanity please forgive us if we edit out the profanity with asterisks. I personally don't have a problem with it and don't think that it will destroy my salvation, so it's not a matter of offending us. We have dedicated a lot of time and effort into this blog and don't think we are asking too much.
The org will have to get over what I'm about to unleash. What I have in my hot hands is on tape and what Kekel said is revealing about how the org works. Don I'm trying to email it to you right now. I don't have anything personal against kekel, I would of done this no matter who said it. It is what was said I have a issue with.
Maybe some will read your blogs and be awaken to the fact that they can serve God outside of ntcc.
As far as I know nobody has a copyright on God.
Your blogging reminds me of an illustration about the boy who was at the beach and was picking up starfish and throwing them back to the ocean.
The man saw this boy and told him that his efforts didn't matter for there were 100's of starfish dying.
The boy picked up another starfish and as he was throwing it back in the water he said to the man: "it matters to this one"
If you guys help one, you've done your job.
I look at brill and how hard he tried to be what the org wanted him to be but at the end he wasn't good enough to fit the ntcc standards.
How fitting are the words that rw used:
" good guys finish last"
Hey Mike,
I wasn't disagreeing with you or the comment you left. When I reread my response, it looked like the content could have been directed against you, but it definitely wasn't. Sometimes a comment will trigger a response that leads to another topic that needs to be addressed. I have a problem sometimes with run on sentences and combining to much content into one sentence. I'm working on that. Hopefully I'll "get over it and move on." As always we appreciate your participation and you are always welcome to comment.
Sometimes you get pretty stirred up, and that can be a good thing. When you find out that you were played by the ntcc, it's not an easy pill to swallow. Everyone has their own way of dealing with the aftermath of the cult experience. I personally hate what they do to people and feel the same way that you do at times. I think it's a good thing if this stuff bothers you enough to speak out against the ntcc. Silence can be lethal. People hide their feelings and never deal with it and they suffer as it eats away at them. They never choose a side and they go back and forth. Eventually they blame themselves and are no better off than ntcc members who are completely brainwashed.
Anonymous said:
"If you guys help one, you've done your job."
DNA said,
Thank you for the encouragement. It helps some times to know that people care.
Anonymous said:
"As far as I know nobody has a copyright on God."
DNA said:
That is a very true statement. The ntcc thinks it has an exclusive copyright on God and they feel that they own all the rights to the bible. Christians do have a claim on the bible but not to twist it and make up a bunch of rules that create unnecessary burdens in the lives of others. The TobyMac song on this blog Post that talks about Moving on is really an encouraging song to me. I enjoy new music much more than I enjoy singing 'Everybody will be happy over there' for the thousandth time. That song would never be allowed. Kekel can go hang out at Winterfest and rub elbows with all the so called "worldly" bluegrass musicians that smoke greengrass and drink moonshine, but he preaches and blogs against rock and rap. Tobymac plays a mixture of rock, rap and many other genres with very creative style and fresh lyrics that are inspiring to me. Tobymac would not be welcome in the ntcc, but then again, neither would Jesus. The ntcc thinks they have all the exclusive rights to tell people what kind of music to listen to and what type of restaurants they can go to, and when they can go to the bathroom. If a person were to get up in the middle of a church service and excuse themselves to go to the bathroom, the ntcc leaders would give birth to a blue onion with Cadillac fenders. How can you be free in God if you can't even be free in your own skin?
I took no offence
Mike
Freedom is excellent.
I've been listening to some old "Temple of the Dog" from the 90's grunge era. Great bluesy sound.
Kekel can have his Bluegrass, his mistresses, his crony organization, but the day is coming for him to atone.
Mike
Publicly denouncing the org is a great way to demonstrate you've "moved on." It indicates that you are no longer a victim of NTCC intimidation and that you don't fear what they think about you any more. It's both liberating and cathartic, and I highly recommend it as a form of therapy. I feel better every time I toss a word bomb their way online. When FACTNet emerged, I made a conscious decision not to use an alias. Sure, it drew the Whirlwind (aka Mike Kekel) in to pathetically attack me, but all that did was backfire all over him and make him look like a total #@%hat. Just keep in mind that there isn't a single thing they can do to you anymore. They are powerless and weak, hiding behind money and fake prestige. Losers every one. Man, that felt good! Down with the borg!
Were just fulfilling that dream RW had of a buzzing noise gettting louder and louder until it over took everything. When he gave us the interpretation he said that God said the buzzing noise was people talking. God was warning him of how he can not hide his ways for long.
Haven't heard that vision before. We heard about RWD's vision of Christians getting beheaded at the Ram's stadium and the octopus tentacles reaching out. We also heard Olson's vision of the rapture taking up Davis first, then the board members and then the church schlubs. Maybe the buzzing noise in R-dub's brain had something to do with the bottles of Nyquil he was sucking down.
I gave Don an excerpt of a preaching tape of Kekel entitled "Where are you going" back in about 1983 at Wahianai Avenue Chapel on post at Schofield Barracks HI. Here is a transcript:
"He (the devil) paints pretty pictures, he says (to kekel) look what you had before you got saved, you can't go there and you can't go here now and he begins to fill your heart with the desire to go back to the places you used to go."
He then quotes a few scriptures.
"The devil comes and says look at you now, you got off of dope and you got your mind all squared away and God delivered you, now you can go ahead and you can be that rock musician, now you can do all the things you wanted to do because YOU HAVE A LITTLE PSYCHOLOGY AND KNOW HOW TO PLAY THE PEOPLE, now you can do these things"
In effect, the devil wanted to tap into the fact he had gotten saved and went to Bible School and learned the psychology needed to PLAY THE PEOPLE. Where did he get the psychology to PLAY THE PEOPLE at? well, how about NTCC Bible College where RW would teach and prepare people for the ministry/church business.
I am not bringing this to the forefront becuase of a personal issue with Mr. kekel but rather becuase I believe with all my heart that this "PSYCHOLGY" he is refering to is what the Holy Ghost in me was grieved at for many years as I bore the spiritual, verbal and psychological abuse that was dished out on me in the name of God and religion.
To me, those are revealing and powerful words "YOU HAVE A LITTLE PSYCHOLOGY AND KNOW HOW TO PLAY THE PEOPLE", he didn't have it before he got saved so where did he get it from? From what I read on line, he has found a way to play his bluegrass music and go to concerts. Could it be, the devil has him right where he wants him, using the PSYCHOLOGY TO PLAY THE PEOPLE and play just enough worldly music for him to satisfy what the devil was tempting him with many years ago?
This is for you current NTCCers, I already made my decision, I left and oh what a weight off of my back. Do what you want but it will be in the face of overwhelming critique concerning those who Lord over you.
Bryan David Hill
This Audio clip tells you what Kekel is all about and what the ntcc is all about. The organization was set up to play the people through psychological manipulation. Davis was a master at this. A perfect example of this is how Davis played the ministers. Most of the ntcc ministers worshiped the ground that Davis stood on. They would do anything Davis said. When Davis said that children hinder the work of the lord and that you can't build a church with children, many of the ministers in the organization went out and got vasectomies. Then the ministers with vasectomies started preaching it as a doctrine and convinced men under their influence to get vasectomies. This is not something normal that healthy churches do. It's a form of idol worship. People did what Davis wanted them to do rather than what God wanted them to do. Kekel was saying that if he took the ntcc Psychological skills that he learned in the ntcc and applied them to his rock and roll ambitions, he would be able to play the people just like he does in the ntcc and just like Davis taught him to do.
The problem with all these fantastical visions and hell fire sermons is that it Permanently scars your mind on what religion is. I hate going to church because I can't get it through my head that church can be entertaining/tender/soft... It's gotta be warfare and sacrifice 24/7.
The only thing I know is that I don't know anything concerning God and the afterlife. I've seen a few posters from kids who've left and completely went anti religion. I totally understand why.
Mike
You could well call this blog post "the god manipulators"
How well I remember all of them from their wives to their kids manipulating people, good people.
I remember how rw would play a minister whom I appreciated because he was a good guy but apparently this minister got on the " bad graces" of rw.
He would follow rw around specially at the conferences and rw would put him off while he would be extra nice to others. I mean, rw was ruthless!
This preacher was an "mp"for the military and had a wonderful career but gave it all for the ntcc and got clipped because he was told and at the end rw played him and was done with him to the point that he was shunned along with his wife.
The only good thing was that they both left the org.
But yes, kekel and his wife and the rest of the overseers along with their wives learned well from the master manipulator and to this day they know who And how to play people.
Once they find out you won't get played you're out!
"Once they find out you won't get played you're out!"
That's a stone cold fact. The reason these guys play their head games is because it gives them information about just how "loyal" a person is. If you won't jump through this or that hoop like a trained circus animal, you are under suspicion. They're very adept at figuring out when the irrational enthusiasm for all things NTCC has begun to fade, and then you'll be the target of more head games so they can determine how much you've "slipped." If they can't get you to gyrate for them anymore, the running-off process will begin in earnest--coded messages over the pulpit, various slights and snubs, attempts to poison the minds of your friends and spouse, maybe a dose or two of public humiliation, etc. You won't be able to avoid getting the message that you're now considered excess baggage. Hopefully you'll make it out with family intact. It'll be a glorious day when the shackles come off.
Kekel sounds like a typical hillbilly preacher... I can't believe I fell for this garbage.
I was played when I handed in my "this is I" paper just for it to used against me when I decided to take my ball and go home.
I was played when I got that vasectomy because that was the only way you can "truly do anything for God", you know, no children means more time for the org.
I was played when I gave up my carrer in the military to go to Bible School cuz "You have to decide if your gonna serve the Army or God".
I was played when I handed in my tithe for the betterment of someone elses life style, every Friday night for about 13 years like a good little boy.
You know you been played by a NTCC preacher when:
Everyone sees it but you.
You know you been played by a NTCC preacher when:
Your told to come to church but leave your bibles at home.
Kekel plays people and he learned the psychology from Davis. Davis taught Kekel to follow in his footsteps and the apple (in law) doesn't fall far from the tree. They are oblivious to the suffering they caused. But that's okay. Kekel's "This is I" paper may never have been written on paper or used against him, but people are revealing what Kekel is all about on the blogs. The ntcc only forgives if they can continue to profit off of people but when the land of milk and honey is overcome with corruption and moral decay, the stench of it can not be ignored. They gathered ammunition from the pure and used it in an evil way to wound and kill them off. They loved to shine the light on the sins of others but now they can't hide in the darkness anymore as the spotlight is shining on their deeds. This is Kekel. He learned psychology to play the people and he hasn't changed. While other people were getting vasectomies so that their ministries wouldn't hinder the flow of tithe into the ntcc elite's own bank accounts, Mike and Tanya disregarded the words of Davis and sired a kid who would rub salt in the wounds of parents whose children were deprived of a normal family life and a decent childhood.
Guess what, Kekel hasn't changed. The psychology is still being taught and people are still being played. Money is still being collected and hoarded in arrogance and people are manipulated and brainwashed in the ntcc cult academy. It's not about salvation and it never has been about salvation. They are accumulating treasure and wealth while good people suffer. The ntcc will continue to condemn people for not sacrificing and not paying tithe while their sins are blindly ignored by the masses. The local pastors have been played and taught how to play others. They will remain blind also as people parish. As Kekel preaches about playing the people you can hear the chorus of Amens being shouted out ignorantly in idolatrous ecstasy, while the sheeple follow blindly.
I'd like to report that we are winning! Since I left NTCC and went home, yes you can go home again, I now own free and clear a home worth $350,000. No gimmicks, just hard work and sacrifice. And God did not burn it down because I didn't pay tithe!
Hope this helps someone!
Bro
Anonymous said...
I'd like to report that we are winning! Since I left NTCC and went home, yes you can go home again, I now own free and clear a home worth $350,000.
DNA said:
I was looking at the HUD website today and found a section where low income families can buy homes for $1.00. That's right, one dollar homes. There was one in Ohio that actually looked livable and half way decent. Those of you in the ntcc that are paying your tithe so Kekel can live in his mansion, you ought to check this out. Most ntcc'rs would qualify for low income housing. You can move to Garfield Heights, just outside of Cleveland and own your own house. 2 bedrooms, 1 bath with a huge deck out back and a 2 car garage. click here
It's definitely a fixer upper but with the money you save on rent, you could pay even more tithe money to the ntcc.
I'm happy for you Bro. Hope you enjoy your house and your life that is now free from the bondage of financial deprivation.
I know that some people are not going to believe me that this house costs only one dollar because it says right next to the picture that the list price is $23,400.00. But if you click in the upper right hand corner where you see the tab that says "home", it will take you to the home page. In the gray box that says search properties select Ohio and then go down to the box that says buyer type and select Dollar Homes. Then click on search and this house comes up. If you google the address and look at it on google earth the neighborhood is actually pretty decent looking. It might actually be an upgrade for several ntcc'rs that are paying rent to ntcc slum lords that are charging them hundreds of dollars to live in roach infested flats that have been payed for 10 times over by ntcc'rs that don't know any better.
Brother snouder was trying to buy a house about 2 miles from the compound in Graham and got jacked up royally.
Didn't the Brill's have a house in Orting?
I probably shouldn't have posted that link with the one dollar HUD homes. It would be just like the ntcc to send a hard working, underpaid, skilled laborer in to buy the home and have them fix it up.
Kekel to Building crew member or skilled laborer: "Brother Fixemup, pray about going to Garfield Heights, OH."
Bro. Fixemup replies: "Okay, sir, but if God put it in your heart, there is really nothing to pray about and since I trust you enough to get a vasectomy and pay my tithe to you, there is really nothing to pray about.
Olson and Kekel tell brother Fixemup to make sure he prays anyway because they want him to think that it was his decision to go, and not theirs so that if anything goes wrong, Bro. Fixemup will blame himself.
So the brother goes to Ohio and fixes and repairs the one dollar home while he is soul winning and having church services and working a job.
Then at the next conference Olson announces, "We are winning in Garfield, OH"! Bro. Fixemup is doing a great work for God"! Come see us after service Bro. Fixemup.
After service Olson says, "Pray about coming back to the building crew, because God needs your skills to build our new Pavilion and install volley ball nets at the campground".
Bro. Fixemup sadly tells his congregation that God has called him to work with the building crew again. As Bro. Fixemup is getting his oil puking junker packed up and ready to leave the New pastor pulls into the driveway in his slightly newer oil puking junker.
Bro. Fixemup introduces the new hireling to his flock just before he drives off not knowing that he'll most likely never see any of them again.
Bro. Fixemup says: "Brothers, I'd like you to meet your new Pastor, Rev. Jackemup. He will take care of you."
Rev. Jackemup was sent there to run the congregation off because he was an abrasive dude and the ntcc taught him to play the people, but Bro. Fixemup was sincere and actually loved the brethren. So Olson and Kekel send a tyrant in to replace a decent man who was doing the best he could under the circumstances. Bro. Jackemup will either fail in the ministry miserably or he will replace the ones that he runs off with members just like him. He doesn't know that the house only cost a dollar, so he pays hundreds every month in rent to the ntcc who priced it just high enough to make
bro. jackemup struggle financially. If he fails, the ntcc will sell the house for $80,000.00 or so and put it in their slush fund. What nobody knows is that the trusting hardworking Brother fixemup had transferred the house over to the ntcc for the same price that he bought it for, $1.00.
Didn't this scenario really happened?
I think over at chiefs blog , he mentioned something like this happening with the church he attended. Just funny and hillarious but of course we can't laugh because we need to "move on" and forget about the insanity of it all, lol!
I'm glad I don't know how to use a hammer cause I'd have probably been taken advantage of.
I still kind of want to go under cover and see what Graham is like now.
According to the site, those houses are only available to local governments for a dollar:
"HUD's Dollar Homes initiative helps local governments to foster housing opportunities for low to moderate income families and address specific community needs by offering them the opportunity to purchase qualified HUD-owned homes for $1 each."
If you hover over the "Dollar" entry under the "listing period" field, it says "Government Agencies Only."
So the NTCC minions will have to keep throwing their money away on rent, unfortunately.
Slush fund???
AKA Kekel's Building Fund also known as Kekels Mansion Fund also known as Default to Tanya's Shopping Fund, also known as Grant's college fund, also known as RV purchasing fund and the list goes on and on...
No where is it going to widows, homeless, struggling pastors, children, or whatever legit good cause there is in this world.
Hope you sleep well at night Kekel.
Mike
Vic said:
"If you hover over the "Dollar" entry under the "listing period" field, it says "Government Agencies Only."
So the NTCC minions will have to keep throwing their money away on rent, unfortunately."
DNA said:
Or they can choose the Non-profit organization option and bid low and get 30% off. Chances are if HUD is willing to give a home to a local government for one dollar, they are getting something out of the deal.
Mike said:
"No where is it going to widows, homeless, struggling pastors, children, or whatever legit good cause there is in this world."
DNA said:
And if you dare say anything about their ungodly wealth, they'll say, "You're just jealous". Or how about this one, "God has blessed them for their faithfulness to the work of God, and if you would be as faithful as they are, God would bless you to".
We're not jealous of their ability to play the people. Kekel's primary function in the ntcc is dumb people down. Make them shut off their brains. Most of the people that the ntcc targets are young and are just in the beginning stages of learning to think like an adult and use their adult brains. It's much easier to convince a teenager that your cult is the last move of God on earth than it is to convince a 30 or 40 year old.
That is why the ntcc exploits the military. So many servicemen fall into the ntcc trap at the age of 18 or 19. I was 18. The master manipulators in the ntcc are experts at influencing young minds to abandon their common sense and follow them down a path of self destruction. What they do is very sick and deviant. I believe Kekel accidentally let the psychology statement slip, because it was in his heart. Kekel learned the psychology to play the people from Davis. It's pretty evil when you look at it. Why would you want to play someone? It's mainly used to get their money but but also to get them to do what they want them to do, not what God wants them to do. If God and people were in the best interest or the borg, they wouldn't have to play anyone, and they wouldn't have to learn the psychology to do so.
I got punked when I was 22-26 so I was young as well. Now I'm 41 and I have a good job, military retirement, nice house... Surely I'm not Godly for having it but I sure am happier having decent presentable stuff rather than suffer while "Heirs" continue to rape their own people.
Well, I do remember taking a psychology class in Bible School that was kinda home spun.
Vic, you are absolutely right. That just happened to me. Everything you said. Had I read this before experiencing it, I wouldn't have believed you. But you're right. We're out now though. Thank God.
"Vic, you are absolutely right. That just happened to me. Everything you said. Had I read this before experiencing it, I wouldn't have believed you. But you're right. We're out now though. Thank God."
That is glorious news.
Absolutely. Another mind game they play is to get you to question your walk with God by blaming YOU for the deadness in the church. They schedule a bunch of activities, guilt you into attending, and distract you from the "real" issue. Recently it was said, if you don't come to prayer meeting, you are not saved. On several other recent occasions when no one was "getting in" during a sermon, the leader of the "org" castigated the people..."It doesn't mean anything to YOU!!!" "YOU'VE become complacent!!!!" "YOU need to pray!!!" And the people focus on themselves instead of the wolf leading them to destruction.
It doesn't mean anything anymore because the congregants are tired of the sermon that is empty or the long reading of bible verses that the leader reads.
It seemed that it was always them vs us.
Nothing there to keep you spiritual.
Anon said, "congregants are tired of the sermon that is empty or the long reading of bible verses that the leader reads."
DNA say,
davis taught if the bible reading (from the pulpit) was long, it was because the speaker had not been reading (the bible for his own edification).
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