A question that was asked back in the book of Malachi deserves to be answered today. Will a Man Rob God? Many have translated this scripture to mean, "Will a man not pay his tithe". If you are in the ntcc and you do not pay your tithe, you are a God Robber, according to everyone who steps behind an ntcc pulpit. NTCC preachers are all taught to say, "All Christians pay tithe and give in offerings" every time a collection plate makes its rounds in an ntcc church. We've delved into the Old Testament teachings on tithe and pointed out a few facts about tithe that the ntcc will not expound upon:
1. Abraham gave a tenth of his spoils of war (not a tenth of everything he owned) to Melchisedec out of his own free will, not because he was commanded to, years before the law of Moses came into existence.
2. When the law of Moses was passed down to the Children of Israel, every tribe was given an inheritance except for the Levites. They were selected out of all the tribes to perform the service of the tabernacle and execute the laws of Moses pertaining to sacrifices. Tithe was paid once every three years; and it pertained to agricultural gifts, not 10% of everything they owned or every wage they made before anyone else got their greasy hands on it.
3. In the Old Testament tithe money went towards supporting the Son's of Aaron and the priesthood; whose lot was to perform the service of the Levitical order. The Priests had no inheritance - no land. The Agricultural tithe was to feed the Levites, not to get them rich. Tithes were also given to the Stranger, the Widow, and the fatherless according to Dueteronomy 26:12. When is the last time you saw the ntcc GIVE anything to the Stranger, the Widow or the Fatherless?
4. The 'God Robber' doctrine was instituted by the ntcc in an attempt to bring guilt into a person's life if they don't practice giving 10% cash before any deductions. 10% cash before deductions is not taught anywhere in the entire bible. The ntcc used to put signs up near the doors of the main sanctuary in Graham with a picture of a gun pointing at them and the question, "Will a Man Rob God"?
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| Will a Preacher Man Rob God? Where does your tithe money go? How do you know? Can you look at the church books? Why not? What are they hiding? Does your tithe support the Stranger, the Widow and the Orphan? Or does your leader build himself another mansion and add another luxury car to his collection? Is that what Jesus did? |
What does the ntcc say about tithe in the New Testament? I'm glad you asked. The word "Tithe" is mentioned twice in the New Testament. In Mathew 23:23 and Luke 11:42; and in both instances we find Jesus rebuking the Pharisees for making a big show out of it, while neglecting love and judgment. Keep in mind that the law of Moses was not fulfilled until Jesus made the ultimate sacrifice on the cross. So, as Jews, THEY were required to keep the law; but they missed the heart of God - showing love. But we are no longer under the law and therefore not required to pay tithe. "Well," the ntcc-indoctrinee says, "tithe came before the law, when Abraham paid." No. (1) Abraham freely gave a tenth of the spoils of war. (2) Not only that, but other things happened before the law, that we no longer do. Animal sacrifice was instituted in the Garden of Eden when God clothed Adam and Eve with animal skins to cover their sins. Heb 9;22 But we no longer sacrifice animals. You aren't going to go out and kill a goat every time you sin, are you? Don't let ntcc false doctrine dupe you with guilt trips and catch phrases like the following video uses. Search the scripture.
Paying Your Tithe (Stayin' Alive Parody) =D Video
Highlights:
I give all I can
Yes I do, but
I Drive a BMW
You Want to See
My Money Tree
Over in My Big T.V.
Whether You're a King or
Whether You're a Beggar
You're Payin' Your Tithe
Payin' Your Tithe
Big City Spender or
Little Peanut Vendor
You're Paying Your Tithe
Payin' Your Tithe
(Chorus and Bridge)
Ya better Watch What You're Tryin' or
You May Find Yourself A-Fryin'
You Better Pay It / And Don't Delay It
This Sunday (yeah) **Of course, in ntcc it would say "This PAYday (or else)"**
We also find the word "tithes" written a few times in the New Testament. Luke 18:12 is about another Pharisee who brags about paying tithes: "I fast twice a week, I give tithes of all that I possess". But we find that the Publican who said: "Be merciful to me, a sinner" was justified and not the ntcc hypocrite, (or Pharissee), whatever you want to call him.
Unlike Jesus, Who seldom used the words tithe or tithes, NTCC harps on tithe in every service. Unfortunately, the church world is full of preachers willing to twist scriptures in order to get people to cough up their cash into the church coffers; where it disappears into a black hole of no accountability. Just like the NTCC, these religious hucksters fleece their flock ; and they do it with style, and in a manner that targets different audience groups like farmers, rappers, young folks, and even disco dancers. We have dispersed a couple more of these instructional videos throughout the remainder of the post in order to break up the text and provide comic relief. But ask yourself, Are they advocating paying tithe? To whom? What for? And, please, remember the very first cartoon video's instruction that teaches us to ask for scriptural proof of any doctrine.
Redeeming The Bad Tithe Rap (Accountants) Video
Highlights:
This video showcases mad rhyming skills and some of the funniest dance sequences with "The Sprinkler", "New Kid", "Hammer-Time" and others. But it's mostly catch phrases, lots of repetitious chanting, some pretty lights and someone else's rap song (Flo Rida's "Low"). Advertisers use these same techniques to sell things. They package them and call them "Jingles" or "Commercials". This video is no different. It is a 4 minute ad that is 'selling' you on the need to pay your tithe, and it is prefaced by a 30 second introduction by the preacher interacting with the performers like a hype man building up a rapper or a Barker introducing the next carnival act. However, there are no New Testament Scriptures that support what these men are teaching by using a catchy tune, repetition, and showmanship. Keep your eyes on Jesus; He is The Word.
Back to our search for tithe in the New Testament: We find the word "Tithes" written 4 times in Hebrews 7:5-9, where the Bible talks about the account again of Abraham paying a tenth of the spoils to Melchisedec. Nowhere in Hebrews 7 will you find a commandment carried forward to New Testament Christians mandating them to pay 10% tithe cash to their churches or pastors. In verse 11 you will find a question:
"If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron"?
If the law of Moses or any of the sacrifices, feasts or tithing rules brought about perfection, why would there be a need for an eternal priesthood in which Jesus would spring up out of the tribe of Judah? And if He required tithe of His followers, why would He not mention tithe as a mandate one time in the New Testament? The only time He did that was when He was speaking to Pharisees who were still bound by the law of Moses to pay tithes. We are not bound by the law of Moses.
The following video had us really laughing. It's artistic and plays on words and emotions. There are also a couple of scenes that are just wrong, even in a joking context. Unfortunately, churches today are using this stuff to fill their coffers; but that is not supported by the New Testament. God never intended tithe to be a way for New Testament 'leaders' to get rich off His people. Tithe has always been about caring for the poor, the widow, and the fatherless.
Tithe Rap (Farm Version) Video
The ntcc uses a lot of other scriptures that have to do with giving offerings; and they attempt to apply those scriptures to mandatory tithing. But there just is no link to voluntary giving or even taking care of the Pastor with carnal gifts that can be directly linked to tithing. We have never said or advocated anything against giving freely; but when you get a bunch of scamming and conniving con artists telling you that you are a God robber if you don't pay tithe, and that you will die and go to hell for not paying it, you are following a false doctrine. Even the offering that Paul took up in Corinthians 16 which the ntcc uses in their false doctrine bylaws has nothing to do with tithe. It is an offering for the poor saints in Jerusalem, not for a new Recreational Donkey for Paul to ride on.
We have condensed this as much as possible just to give everyone a refresher course on tithing. If it's not in the bible and it's being taught as scripture, then it's called "FALSE DOCTRINE". In the ntcc there is a whole lot of emphasis on paying tithe; but very little is said about where your tithe dollars go. Why do you think that the ntcc is so secretive about their finances? None of you know where your money goes. None of you know where your church members' money goes. If you are a pastor in the ntcc, House of Pancakes, Oops I meant to say House of Prayer, (Denis' Organization), Ashmore's Jesus Revival Ministries and you are being taught to pay tithe you are being taught a false doctrine plain and simple. You are being lied to and conned out of ten percent of your earnings. What you might find even more alarming is where your money is going. Don't you have a right to know? Why would anyone get mad if you asked to see the church books so you could know for sure where your money is going? If you are a pastor in the ntcc and you are teaching your members to pay tithe and calling them God Robbers, or sinners if they don't, or if you are implying in any way that they are going to go to hell if they don't pay it, or if they don't pay it on time, you are a false prophet and a teacher of false doctrine.
If you want to know where the majority of your tithe dollars are going take a look at the mansions at the top of this blog, and take a look at all the $20 bills that are floating around in the blog background (in the Web Version View). That's your money. Shouldn't you know how it is spent? Wait for that quarter million dollar Recreational Vehicle (RV) to roll up in your driveway on your dime. Ask the Overseer where the money came from to pay for him to gallivant across the United States on an all expense paid vacation. If you don't give enough in the offerings, he'll leave right in the middle of revival and find another ntcc brain washing center that will give him and his wife enough money to get to the next place, pay for his RV and go shopping along the way. Go ask Kekel to let you take a look in his garage at the nice cars he owns or to take a tour of his mansion. That's where your money is going. You have heard the Testimonies. The works overseas are struggling and expected to not only pay all of their own expenses but to catch up all of the money that the ntcc leaders say the last preacher owed them. The funny thing is, you don't know that for sure. There is no proof. They don't take you at your word. Why should you take them at their word? Let's crack open those books. Let's see what the previous Pastor has to say for himself. Don't just blindly accept Kekel's or anyone else's word for it. Let's see that proof they're always talking about.
"If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron"?
If the law of Moses or any of the sacrifices, feasts or tithing rules brought about perfection, why would there be a need for an eternal priesthood in which Jesus would spring up out of the tribe of Judah? And if He required tithe of His followers, why would He not mention tithe as a mandate one time in the New Testament? The only time He did that was when He was speaking to Pharisees who were still bound by the law of Moses to pay tithes. We are not bound by the law of Moses.
The following video had us really laughing. It's artistic and plays on words and emotions. There are also a couple of scenes that are just wrong, even in a joking context. Unfortunately, churches today are using this stuff to fill their coffers; but that is not supported by the New Testament. God never intended tithe to be a way for New Testament 'leaders' to get rich off His people. Tithe has always been about caring for the poor, the widow, and the fatherless.
Tithe Rap (Farm Version) Video
The ntcc uses a lot of other scriptures that have to do with giving offerings; and they attempt to apply those scriptures to mandatory tithing. But there just is no link to voluntary giving or even taking care of the Pastor with carnal gifts that can be directly linked to tithing. We have never said or advocated anything against giving freely; but when you get a bunch of scamming and conniving con artists telling you that you are a God robber if you don't pay tithe, and that you will die and go to hell for not paying it, you are following a false doctrine. Even the offering that Paul took up in Corinthians 16 which the ntcc uses in their false doctrine bylaws has nothing to do with tithe. It is an offering for the poor saints in Jerusalem, not for a new Recreational Donkey for Paul to ride on.
We have condensed this as much as possible just to give everyone a refresher course on tithing. If it's not in the bible and it's being taught as scripture, then it's called "FALSE DOCTRINE". In the ntcc there is a whole lot of emphasis on paying tithe; but very little is said about where your tithe dollars go. Why do you think that the ntcc is so secretive about their finances? None of you know where your money goes. None of you know where your church members' money goes. If you are a pastor in the ntcc, House of Pancakes, Oops I meant to say House of Prayer, (Denis' Organization), Ashmore's Jesus Revival Ministries and you are being taught to pay tithe you are being taught a false doctrine plain and simple. You are being lied to and conned out of ten percent of your earnings. What you might find even more alarming is where your money is going. Don't you have a right to know? Why would anyone get mad if you asked to see the church books so you could know for sure where your money is going? If you are a pastor in the ntcc and you are teaching your members to pay tithe and calling them God Robbers, or sinners if they don't, or if you are implying in any way that they are going to go to hell if they don't pay it, or if they don't pay it on time, you are a false prophet and a teacher of false doctrine.
If you want to know where the majority of your tithe dollars are going take a look at the mansions at the top of this blog, and take a look at all the $20 bills that are floating around in the blog background (in the Web Version View). That's your money. Shouldn't you know how it is spent? Wait for that quarter million dollar Recreational Vehicle (RV) to roll up in your driveway on your dime. Ask the Overseer where the money came from to pay for him to gallivant across the United States on an all expense paid vacation. If you don't give enough in the offerings, he'll leave right in the middle of revival and find another ntcc brain washing center that will give him and his wife enough money to get to the next place, pay for his RV and go shopping along the way. Go ask Kekel to let you take a look in his garage at the nice cars he owns or to take a tour of his mansion. That's where your money is going. You have heard the Testimonies. The works overseas are struggling and expected to not only pay all of their own expenses but to catch up all of the money that the ntcc leaders say the last preacher owed them. The funny thing is, you don't know that for sure. There is no proof. They don't take you at your word. Why should you take them at their word? Let's crack open those books. Let's see what the previous Pastor has to say for himself. Don't just blindly accept Kekel's or anyone else's word for it. Let's see that proof they're always talking about.
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If you watch the cartoon all the way through you will find that Rev. Moneylove is a lot like Davis. When the British guy backs him into a corner he says I have a degree. The British guy says, "You have an unaccredited degree, from a Micky Mouse correspondence course that you bought for $1,000.00. Then he says, "You used to sell insurance until you found out there was more money to be made by selling religion". Ha, Ha. Just like Davis.
This is what the ntcc is all about. They dumb down their congregations by preaching tithe or hell. They than fleece their flocks for thousands of dollars a month and none or very little goes to the poor. This video describes what Davis did to a T.
Giving in the ntcc was more of a duty that contributed to the continuous grind of striving but never obtaining perfection. Tithe was like a bill that had to be paid, but there was no grace period. "Um, Pastor, I'm not going to be able to pay my tithe until I get back from the mandatory field exercise that the Army requires me to participate in." The Pastor retorts, "You better hope the rapture doesn't take place before you get back or you'll be $136.92 overweight".
Than The preacher gets behind the pulpit and without saying a name uses the process of elimination so that everyone knows who he's preaching about, and uses this as an opportunity to teach his dumbed down flock about judgment and hell for those who don't pay tithe. This is manipulation at it's best. Wholesale mind control being dispensed from the pulpit to the pew and the victims are anyone who is willing to sit in that congregation.
Okay, so we have made a plea to the pastors of the ntcc and the bastard spin-off organizations, (Denis and Ashmores groups), to stop pedaling false doctrine. We hope that some of the pastors of these local churches have taken this to heart. But just in case they don't, we now would like to appeal to the congregations, (the church members), to not allow yourselves to be manipulated for one more day.
There are many people in and out of the ntcc who read the blogs. To the ntcc church member that happens to be reading this, please hear what we have to say. Don't believe everything that your ntcc pastor tells you. Look for it in the bible. If your pastor says that you are going to die and go to hell for not paying your tithe, look for it yourself in the bible. Most ntcc church members are smarter than average but they are just being misguided by professional con artists.
If a pastor is collecting 10% of your money you should have a right to know why. I know this is hard to receive, but the reason he is collecting that money from you is because he has been taught false doctrine by people like Davis and Kekel, who have become filthy rich off of your tithe. If you believe in paying tithe but you don't have any sound scriptures to support it, than you are contributing to this scam.
The sick part of this demented scheme is that the ntcc uses real Salvation scriptures to lure you in and those scriptures deal with your heart and you become truly saved. You love God and want to serve him all your life. You are willing to do anything to please God and this is the exact place the ntcc wants you to be and this is where you become usable to them and this is also where they begin to take advantage of you as a young Christian. A real Man of God is not going to use you for your money or require you to do anything that is not biblical. If you are being told that tithe is a mandate from God in the New Testament, you are being lied to and there are absolutely no scriptures to support that false doctrine.
I know it seems difficult and maybe impossible but the longer you stay with a group that preaches this false doctrine, the more control they will have over your life and the more clouded your judgment will become. Over time tithe and holiness will become obligations but you will convince yourself that they are necessary to make it to heaven. This type of brainwashing excludes many who would love God, but they are turned off because the ones they look to for encouragement are in bondage. They never have anything to show for their lives of sacrifice. They have paid for their religion and that's all they end up having to show for decades of service in the ntcc. Religion and hypocrisy.
The good news is that they don't own you. As you sit in that church service or bible study you are still a free moral agent. You can get up and leave any time you want to. Who do you belong to, God or the ntcc or yourself? Do you think that God would disown you if you chose to leave? What if you had a son or a daughter who you raised and you wanted the best for them, so you made plans for their future. You decided that you wanted them to become a Doctor, but they grew up wanting to be an engineer. You still love them and they still love you, but they want to choose their own path in life and not have it chosen for them by their parents. If they follow that path and decide to be an engineer, are you going to never talk to them again for the rest of your life? Are you going to give them an ultimatum and tell them if you don't follow the path I choose for you, you will become an utter failure and you will be walking away from us forever? Is that love?
That's what the ntcc does to Christians. They take away your freedom of choice. They don't want you to give cheerfully as God purposes in your own heart as the bible teaches, but they want you to believe that there are consequences if you don't fall in line with their way of doing things. They threaten you that if you don't do it their way, God will cast you into the lake that burns with fire and brimstone and there you will spend eternity.
God is not a cruel task master that is standing over you with a whip, drooling for another chance to crack it over you. When a person begins to Lord over you and wants to rule your decisions and influence your thinking to conform to cult doctrine, it is time to leave.
If you can survive this cult experience and keep your salvation in tact, you are accomplishing much more than you realize. Now that you have left and are free from the bondage of a cult, you can improve your relationship with God. Your faith is no longer dictated to you by someone who is profiting off of your labor. You are living for God because you love Him, not because some washed up ntcc preacher is leading you to jump through a bunch of hoops to make him look good. Don't look to put yourself back in bondage. The bible warns us to be aware of false teachers that teach false doctrines. Many of the churches in today's over religious society will preach tithe and prosperity giving. But if you really want God to bless you, take care of your family first and when all of those needs are supplied, help the helpless. Help the poor, the homeless, the Fatherless, and the widow. You will find much more of a blessing in that than you will in giving your money to the money grubbing hypocrites in the ntcc.
We are not saying to not find yourself a church or to be around other believers, but if you can't find anyone who isn't trying to pry your wallet open for their own benefit, you are better off living for God on your own. He is able to keep you, especially if your mind isn't influenced by some kook, who only exists because there are suckers born every day.
Its doubly wrong to make people pay tithe on gi bill, child support, social security, and disability!
They'll have you spending your last dime under the guise that your money belongs to the blood sucking tithe collecting Egg heads that are spending their time dreaming up new ways to con you out of your money. Many of the ntcc preachers consider every increase of any kind that you get to be tithe income. It already belongs to God so if you don't pay it you are robbing from God. I wonder if the full time pastor that freeloads around the Servicemen's Home, pays tithe on the free room and board he and his wife are receiving.
While some of these ntcc preachers are dreaming up things that you are supposed to pay tithe on, they ought to stop and think about what they ought to pay tithe on. Everything that comes into the church is an increase. If a brother shines your shoes, that costs 5 to 10 bucks at the airport. That's an increase. If the brother mows your lawn, that would cost $50.00 to have a landscaping company do. That's an increase. If a brother fixes your car, takes the trash out, helps out washing the dishes, cleans the church, cleans the home you live in, these are all increases and that lazy preacher that freeloads off of Servicemen or Civilians, (they work too).
The ntcc uses tithe dollars to keep you broke while a select few prosper. The ones who are played the most are the working pastors of the local churches. You put your life earnings into a work and they find ways of increasing the burden on you, and the only way you'll ever get out from under that burden is by increasing the financial burden on your few members.
No the servicemen's directors do not have to pay tithe on the privilege to live in the home. They don't have to pay tithe on meals the servicemen or servicewomen buy them but any meals anyone buys for the servicemen or servicewomen have to be tithe on. Rev. Olsen and Rev. Ashmore said that was the way it was suppose to be yet they never shared how the bible backs it up.
I didn't leave for this particular doctrine, but after I did leave and searched out many topics of the bible I was surprised how gullible I was.
Razor Sharp said:
"I didn't leave for this particular doctrine, but after I did leave and searched out many topics of the bible I was surprised how gullible I was."
DNA said:
We were the types of people they were looking for. Once they found people like us that would believe them, they would make us cult member recruiters and try to multiply their numbers. There will always be suckers that are willing to trust without verifying the truth.
They operate on the premise that once we are reeled in, they use us as bait to catch more sucker fish. They will string us along if we continue to be useful, but when we catch on to their scam or get sick of being religious, they will forget all about us. Now that some have come back to warn others they will drag us through the dirt to convince others that we are just bitter and full of hate.
At least we are not making money by fleecing the flock, like they are. We are actually warning people because we know what it is like to be burned and we actually care about you enough to at least tell you the truth. We haven't made a dime off of you, but we are considered the devils. The ntcc treats you like last weeks trash while they demand a large amount of your money and time. We want to see the ntcc crumble to the ground, but we don't want to see innocent people burned so that a few unscrupulous hucksters can get rich.
I have often wondered if they (RWD, and whoever started with him) began with the right intentions. However, I believe now that the "filthy lucre" part came or maybe started this what I call, religious pyramid scheme. I have always said even as an NTCC'ER that many are in the ministry just for the money. They promote the top 10 percent who receive the money as blessed people and get others to believe and pay into this system in hopes they to can be a part of the 10 percenters. As one has said to become the "company man". But of course many are fooled because how can we think bad of these people who are telling me about Jesus? Well how else do you think they are going to get you to open your wallet up but by seducing ways. They have learned to take good hearted men and women who are searching for God and bring them into their subjecation. Their are many good God fearing people in there but the top tier leadership is using them. How many of us would say that the JW'S are wrong and that they thst are in are being used. Well aren't they responsible for learning the word of God for themselves and to make the changes necessary to be in God's will, even if it means leaving the group they are associated with who are in error?
Happy Easter!
The lyrics to a song entitled:
I AM
By Theocracy
The lyrics to this song will have to be broken up into more than one comment due to it's length. You won't hear this song in an ntcc church, even with their latest trends towards what they define as compromise. It's probably considered hard rock, which according to the ntcc is ungodly filth. Don't tell us it's ungodly filth, show us where you got the label.
I AM!
I am the light upon your path when you have lost your way
I am the footprints in the sand the ocean's tide can't wash away
I am the shelter from the storm that rages on and on
The incorruptible foundation that the wise man builds upon
I am the bread that feeds a starving man upon the street
I am the bounty on the table in the palace at the feast
I am the rain upon the earth after a scorching drought
I am the quenching of the thirst you never thought you'd be without
I am the melody that weaves its way inside your soul
I am the symphony, the masterpiece, the actor's greatest role
I am the poetry that speaks to you with every rhyme
I am the songwriter who seems to write your life in every line
I am the simple truths that shaped your world from your birth
I am the vast volumes of knowledge spanning all across the earth
I am the whisper of the wind you feel, but cannot see
I am the alpha and omega, first and last, eternally
I AM You cannot see me
I AM The resurrection and the life, the doorway and the vine, I AM
I AM You cannot touch me
I AM The bread of life, light of the world, long before Abraham, I AM
[Lead Break: Val]
I am the trusting child whose simple faith is ever sure
I am the parent's love, unchanging, unconditional and pure
I am the loyal friend whose heart will never let you down
I am the hand that pulls you back into the boat before you drown
I am the thunder and the glory and the blinding light
I am the still small voice that tells you what is wrong and what is right
I am the sacrificial lamb a guilty world reviled
I am the father ever waiting for his lost and wayward child
Continued below....
I am the heart of the righteous desire and the fourth man you see in the midst of the fire
I am the giver of life and promise of Israel
I am the hope of the lonely and lost in the blood running down to the foot of the cross
I am the breaking of chains and the tolling of freedom's bell
I am the notes that eternally ring in the music too holy for angels to sing
I am the fire on the altar consuming the sacrifice
I am the three and yet I am the one in the grace of the Father and death of the Son
I am the one who redeemed you by paying the highest price
I am grace and mercy, I am sacrifice
I am endless glory, I am light and life
I am long-awaited hope of Israel
I am longing sated, prophecy fulfilled
I am from the beginning of time, and I am sustaining the system of life
I am symmetry, reason and rhyme, and I am conviction that cuts like a knife
I am the author of order and flow
I am the Father of Lights: watch me put on a show!
I am the seeker of all gone astray
I am the keeper of souls 'til the end of all days
I am power, I am glory, I am love's unending story
I am justice, I am honor, I am hope and living water
I am righteous, I am holy, I am three and one and only
I am sovereign, I am faithful, everlasting, I AM that I AM
[Solo: Val]
I am humility, the one who laid it all aside
Traded a crown of kings for a crown of thorns, betrayed by human pride
I am humanity, took on your curse and all your pain
I am divinity, eternity, forever I remain
I am your guilty scars, as Roman solider tear my back
I am the crimson stain that washes all the souls faded to black
I am the one who bled in silence and endured it all
I am the Word who spoke no word, with a thousand angels waiting for my call
I am your covenant - your hero in these bloodstained pages
I am your guild, your sin, your debt fulfilled for all the ages
I step into your shoes, your substitute
Your sacrifice
Your raison d'etre
Your second chance
Your breath of life
I AM
I AM! By Theocracy Continued...
I am the joy of angels dancing in the streets of heaven
I am the sinner's prayer for mercy and a past forgiven
I am the lamb upon the altar dying willingly
All hope that was
All hope that is
All hope to be
I AM
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ANON MIKE
D/A Great post. Learned quite a bit actually.
I currently don't go to a church but understand giving is a necessity for the sake of all that goes into it. Not saying you don't, just not sure how to see where the happy medium is...
Thanks for the solid post.
No problem, Mike. We have nothing against church and nothing against giving to a church that patterns itself after Christ or the early church examples of the New Testament. Most Churches today are more concerned about programs that do not benefit anyone but the insatiable desires of the pastor or the Founder/CEO types in an organization that seem to be the only ones that benefit from giving to a lot of churches. We are not saying that there are no good churches out there, or that a person should not choose to live their life for God because of all of the bad examples out there.
I will say that you are in a much better place Mike, than those who are brainwashed and don't realize it. When things begin to make sense to you, it's easier to make rational decisions. We are glad that the blogs are helping you see the reality that so many people are struggling to see.
We are here to help people that have survived the ntcc experience as well as to help people open their eyes and see that they are in a destructive cult. Freedom in your mind is the first step toward having freedom in your heart. There are things that I will never forget from my ntcc experience, but it helps to be able to tell the difference between false doctrine and what is real in the bible.
We strongly advocate that people who are mixed up in their minds because of cult indoctrination, compare what you were taught that the bible says, with what it actually says. That's the only way to unlearn false doctrine. The sad thing is that many people that are still in the ntcc, or one of it's spin offs, don't realize that they are mixed up. It's sad but true. They can read the same thing you read, but they don't want to wander too far out of their comfort zones to realize what is going on.
In many cases it takes a severely devastating experience to jolt a cult member into reality. The best thing that can happen to a long time member of the ntcc is for them to get severely jacked up in public. Most of the long time members are doing what they know to do and have really done nothing to warrant such public humiliation. When it happens to them it becomes more real. They begin to think, "What have I done to deserve this?" They also begin to pray and ask God why they were singled out. There is no answer and the cruelty begins to hit home and then they begin to realize that others are going through the same thing. The true colors of the ntcc leadership often come out when said leaders are implicated in wrong doing.
When People begin to realize that they are being used by the ntcc for their money it might provoke them to ask a question that an ntcc leader does not want to answer, like: "How much do I really owe on this property"? Instead of being honest they will make a lie by answering in a subversive way or not answering at all. Eventually if you don't drop the subject you will be jacked up in front of the only people that love you on the face of the earth at a conference. They try to isolate the person and publicly humiliate them so they don't influence anyone else in the group on their way out.
Finally, they give you an ultimatum before you leave, so you won't come back. "If you walk out that door, God is not going to forgive you" and we will not come after you. We will turn you over to Gawd for the destruction of your soul and so on. That's how sick the ntcc leadership is. They are a disease like cancer that eats away at the body of Christ. They are like an infestation that devours the good in people until there is nothing left but corruption.
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