ntcc is a fear-based controlling cult that destroys families.
ntcc leadership requires complete unquestioning obedience to themselves.
ntcc leadership controls its members limiting the flow of information.
ntcc isolates its members from non-ntcc family and friends.
ntcc is secretive.
ntcc's top leaders hide behind fences and guards.
ntcc's top leaders give no account of their time or whereabouts.
ntcc's top leaders collect your money but don't show where it goes.
ntcc's top leaders expect you to serve them.
ntcc's leaders expect you to mow their lawn and shine their shoes.
ntcc's leaders expect your wife to clean their mansions.
ntcc expects young teen girls to marry much older men.
ntcc's leaders have people lining up to do every domestic duty for them.
What's next for ntcc? Video link
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| That's NOT natural! Just the height difference is creepy. The age difference is illegal. (At a quick glance they remind us of the Tiemans.) |
Breaking News:
Warren Jeffs found guilty of child rape. Video and Story
Cult members seem unaware of verdict. Link to Salt Lake Tribune Story
Please note: Warren Jeffs was married to these girls who were under the age of 17 and yet is a "convicted felon". Good to know some in Texas know that it is wrong to abuse a spiritual office, a "position of trust" and abuse it to manipulate children into "marriages" and rape.
Similarities of ntcc and FLDS (Warren Jeffs' group)
- Leader is guarded
- Leader lives behind a fence
- Leader has complete control
- Leader decides who marries whom
- Leader marries minor
- Other leaders marry minors
- Women have no voice
- Children have no voice
- Information is controlled (no tv / no internet)
- Clothing is controlled
- Members live in communal compounds
- Leader decides who stays and who is run off
The only differences we noted were 1) polygamy and 2) FLDS allowed no newspapers. Everything else is exactly the same, right down to the white shirts and dresses and teen brides for the cult leaders!
You ntcc-ers should learn a lesson from the FLDS CULT!!!
The only reason ntcc is not EXACTLY like FLDS is because davis would rather have your money than multiple wives and children!
Admit it. If davis told you it was okay for your daughter to marry when she is only 14, you would allow it. Hasn't it already happened in ntcc? But know this, "religious freedom" is not meant to be an umbrella to hide law breaking. Child protection laws exist to protect kids from the likes of davis and his blind followers. Think about it.
Warren Jeffs Sentenced To LIFE In Prison for a Minimum of 45 years:
According to an article on CNN.com Jeffs will serve a minimum of 45 years. He's 55 now and will become eligible for parole when he is 100:
From CNN:
The jury sentenced Jeffs to life in prison for aggravated sexual assault of a 12-year-old girl and 20 years in prison for the sexual assault of a 15-year-old girl. He must serve at least 35 years of the life sentence and half of the other sentence ... The judge in the case ordered that the sentences be served consecutively.
Jeffs perverted his position as the head of the ... Church ... to "satisfy his own personal appetites and desires," ... . Link to CNN Article with Videos
Interview with Brett Jeffs who was 5 years old when he was raped by Warren Jeffs, his uncle:
CNN Video:
We believe the same is true for davis and kekel and other high-ranking ntcc officers: They perverted their position in the church, a position of trust, to "satisfy his own personal appetites and desires"!!
Think about it. davis and kekel, olson, and other ntcc board members wield entirely too much power with absolutely no accountability.
As a result families are destroyed, faith is destroyed, and finances disappear into ntcc's coffers with no one giving any account.
This is unhealthy, ungodly, and illegal. It must stop. Demand retroactive accountability for all that these so-called 'leaders' have gotten away with for far too long!
CHILD RAPIST GETS LIFE IN PRISON!!
HE IS A PEDOPHILE, NOT A PROPHET!
Teen 'brides'? Get real! They are supposed to be kids. LET THEM BE!
CHILD RAPIST GETS LIFE IN PRISON!!
HE IS A PEDOPHILE, NOT A PROPHET!
Teen 'brides'? Get real! They are supposed to be kids. LET THEM BE!
24 comments:
Speaking of Warren Jeffs there is an book I read some time back called:"Stolen Innocence: My Story of Growing up in a Polygamous Sect, Becoming a Teenage Bride, and Breaking Free of Warren Jeffs" It's a great book! I highly recommend it especially if you have ever been the victim of a cult like I was. Like you stated in your post, it's actually scary how many similarities there are between RWD/NTCC and Warren Jeff's Polygamous Sect. It's such a tragedy that so many people are trapped completely mind, body, and soul in these types of cults.
Very true. The NTCC is very much like Warren Jeffs cult. The NTCC is so screwed up their leadership actually promotes the practice of girls dropping out of high school to marry and attend the "School of Rules" AKA the NTCS. Wright's daughter was encouraged to drop out of high school to attend the School of Rules and then encouraged to marry a dude who didn't even want her. What a mess and a messy cult.
Jeff
This is a statement by Warren Jeffs that he said came directly from God: "This judging of the servant of my sending is an unjust attack," Jeffs said, referring to himself, according to the paper. "I'm soon to fulfill my will of cleaning the land of Zion, North and South America by whirlwind judgment." Statements like this are simply scare tactics that cult leaders use to scare their members and make them believe they have special privileges with God that no one else has. Warren Jeffs is flat out C R E E P Y!!
Cream of the Crop said,
" Statements like this are simply scare tactics that cult leaders use to scare their members and make them believe they have special privileges with God that no one else has. Warren Jeffs is flat out C R E E P Y!!"
Don and Ange say,
You said it! rw davis is just as C R E E P Y as he declares:
"If you have a problem with one of my ministers, you have a problem with me. And if you have a problem with me, you have a problem with GAWD!"
"All I do is by the Holy Ghost."
"I never miss GAWD."
"I can't remember the last time I sinned."
"If I want to know your sin, all I have to do is ask GAWD and He tells me."
C R E E P Y crud designed to frighten people into submission. C R E E P Y CULT CONTROL CRUD to make you think davis is all knowing, the "first man up before the throne of GAWD" as olson likes to describe davis. olson is no more than a two-bit hype-man. olson is the soft cop in davis' rough-cop / soft-cop fantasy. F R E A K Y.
"It seemed good to the Holy Ghost." is olson's favorite form of mystical manipulation to make people think he is 'all that'. It's nothing more than manipulative cult-code-language or jargon. The Holy Ghost is never going to contradict God the Father or Jesus Christ by directing a man like olson to tell you to leave your wife and child just so the ntcc can split up yet another family. olson is full of bunk too.
Don and Ange
Don and Ange said,
The Holy Ghost is never going to contradict God the Father or Jesus Christ by directing a man like olson to tell you to leave your wife and child just so the ntcc can split up yet another family. olson is full of bunk too.
Sarah says:
Your right. NTCC could care less if they tear families apart and cause people years of heartache. Another scare tactic that I specifically remember was that I would have a curse prayed on me if I did something wrong. I was told that if you disrespected the man of God you would end up being cursed. I was also told that someone actually died as a result of a curse being prayed on them. How's that for fear??
Cream of the Crop / Sarah said,
" Another scare tactic that I specifically remember was that I would have a curse prayed on me if I did something wrong. I was told that if you disrespected the man of God you would end up being cursed. I was also told that someone actually died as a result of a curse being prayed on them."
Don and Ange say,
That is terrible! People die while in the ntcc. Some have died as a result of ntcc's sleep-deprivation doctrine, the ntcc's crazy busy schedule pushing them to exhaustion that resulted in them falling asleep at the wheel. The ntcc's scare techniques are just more cult manipulation tactics. When something bad happens to an ntcc member, ntcc will say the devil is fighting. If something bad happens to an X-er ntcc will say Gawd is judging them. It's nonsense. Only God knows the hearts. Bad things happen to everyone. Only God knows why. ntcc is full of phony hypocrites who run the cult and will use any lie or excuse to get people to do what they want.
What a mess!
You said it!
You said it!
My comment posted twice. Ugh.
I just gotta say, this story about Wright's daughter is very troubling. She was always so nice to me and others from what I could see. When she was proposed to I was there on the wall too, watching, happy for both of them. Yet immediately after she married, she changed. She went from over the top bubbly to a reserved dignity. I guessed her hubby pulled her aside and told her how it had to be when working for stodgy rodgy. In any case she still seemed happy in public. But it was something I noted with some concern. Later when I went to a restaurant during a conference and saw George Keys sitting alone with The Tom (Tom Ed Wright) I was alarmed and saddened not to see my friend. Of course ntcc rules were in full effect and we never asked what we all wanted to know, "What happened???" They had seemed happy. But you know how it is in ntcc - you are never, ever, ever allowed to show anything but beaming positive happiness. It's a big facade, now isn't it? Of course life goes on in the ntcc. The gears of the meat grinder keep turning and another marriage ends only to see the one who remains in ntcc get to be recycled to another ntcc spouse. There is really something very sick about a so-called father who won't defend or stand by his own daughter. This sickness emanates from the head of ntcc and has spread as a cancer consuming the rest of the body. Blech. I used to like George Keys. He seemed 'like a good brother'. But now I gotta wonder. If you don't want somebody as sweet, bubbly, fun, and beautiful as Tanya??? What's wrong with you? Are you trying too hard to please a man called davis? Why did you marry her if you didn't want her? Man, brothers from here to Kalamazoo would line up for a shot at what you had, boi. What's is going on in the ntcc??? If you are willing to throw your wife, son, daughter, husband, brother, or sister under the bus to please davis, you may as well get on your knees and lick the wingtips of davis to prove to all he is your gawd! Sick. Sick. Sick. SICK. SICK!!!
I don't know if he was trying to please Davis. He just didn't like, "Red Heads". He never should have married her. He also shouldn't have allowed this other girl to move into their house to live with them in Atlanta. My wife and I met this lady who came out to visit Mayers church in Atlanta. She told us that before Mayers got to Atlanta and Keys was the pastor, she had moved in to stay with Keys and his wife while she was attending his church. What kind of garbage is that?
Anyway the whole thing was a mess to start with. Wright tells his daughter he was leaving to go oversees and the Curry's would take care of her. He abandoned his own child and left her behind. Wright is a real Jerk with a capital J. Then the Curry's said they couldn't take care of her. After that she quit high school (which RDUB encouraged her to do) to attend the school of rules. Then she marries Keys who didn't even want her. He wanted to be an NTCC minister and he knew he needed a wife so he married Tanya even though he knew she wasn't the one for him. So he treated her like a live in maid rather than a wife. Apparently he didn't want to have sex with her and according to Tanya he didn't. Then of course he blamed all their problems on Tanya and Tanya's own dad bought off on it because he had a problem with his own daughter and her mother from the get go. So Keys wouldn't have sex with his own wife and it's no wonder she got sick of him. Wright is a complete jerk and another one of RWD's flunkies who is a complete abusive idiot.
Chief
Here's another one of RW's gems that hasn't been aired in awhile:
"Don't ask for my advice unless you intend to follow it."
What kind of narcissist demands that you follow his advice...before you even hear it! We are all responsible for making our own decisions, but RW does his best to insure that people engage in robotic obedience, rather than using their own God-given faculties.
The whole purpose of asking advice is to get input from different perspectives so that we may consider a matter more completely. Advice shouldn't come from a single source; even the bible tells us that in the multitude of counselors there is wisdom.
You know what? I never asked for his advice for the precise reason that I was unwilling to commit to any course of action before I knew what it was. That's just some common sense that didn't require any advice at all.
Hey, Vic. Good to see your comment. Yeah, davis thinks he is deity, his doctrine a divine utterance. Remember his so-called apology? "I'd like to apologise if I have offended anyone or done anything wrong..." -- long pause with gassy-puss transforming to the davis scowl as he continues, yelling into the microphone: -- "BUT I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING WRONG!"
davis is demented making such a foolish claim.
Only Christ is perfect. But davis wants you to think rdub is infallible. You were smart not to ask for 'advice' from davis. He thinks his 'advice' should be followed like every other utterance he makes -- as if it were a command from God Himself. This is part of davis' narcissistic personality disorder. NPD is a form of mental illness accompanied by delusions of grandeur. davis might not ever say that he thinks he is gawd; but davis acts as if he thinks he is gawd; for he expects and demands complete obedience to him as if he is the Lord (Absolute Ruler).
Don and Ange
Someone e-mailed a link to a relevant article called "Christian? Nope: Just A Plain Old Pedofile.". Enjoy!
Don and Ange
That guy wrote some good stuff: "Carbombistan" was funny.
When I first left ntcc I found many people to talk to online to help me through it.
Right now I'm in a lot of emotional pain and I just want to tell someone. After 12 years of marriage to a former ntcc preacher I filed for divorce.
My husband was convinced it was wrong to marry the person he loved. She was his high school sweetheart, they had 7 years together, but she refused to join ntcc. So he dumped her. Years later I met him. We married and i was willing to move anywhere with him.
I did not realize when I married him that he had given up his first love for this church. I did not realize that her mom was his second mom and he also loved her very much.
Yes we had rocky times during the years in ntcc, but I had no idea when we left the church that this massive amount of regret and what could have been with this other woman would rock my whole life.
It is a horrible situation to be in. Not only have I lost the man I love, but the other woman now knows she is the only one he ever loved. This other, so called religious woman batted away my pleas to stay out of my marriage and has sent me the most disrespectful facebook messages and texts. She never married or had any children and is currently living with a guy and his kids. She told me he knows all about her "friendship" with my husband and I'm just insecure, and regardless of how I feel, she is his friend. Of course this woman wouldn't be able to say all of this to me if my husband hadn't turned to her and told her all the details of our life.
I'm very heartbroken and I just wish I would have realized more what I got myself into. It's a very strange and heartbreaking way to end a 12 year marriage. It's horrible to tell someone they can't marry who they love because it damages many people later on down the road.
Nicole,
This whole situation is just so wrong, it's hard to know where to begin!
You deserve to be loved just as you are!!
ntcc makes love so conditional-do this, don't do that, then we will love you.
God loves UNCONDITIONALLY.
ntcc talks a big show about love: They say "People need love the most when they deserve it the least."
But when put to the test, all the ntcc 'leaders' do is talk. When people really need love from ntcc, the ntcc rejects them [at best] or cuts them off and wounds them more!
We're so sick of ntcc's double-talk: "God is love." but with davis, "It's my way or the highway."
Take our advice, friends, the highway is the higher way to go out of those two options!
Do yourself a favor and get out of ntcc the lying cult that promises love but deals out hate. Free yourself from the doctrines of selfish men like davis and kekel and seek out the unconditional love of God Who gave His Son to die in our place.
Recognize the truth about the ntcc lies and return to the True God Who gave His best for us so we could reign as Kings and Priests of our God, not paupers and pawns of davis and kekel.
Set yourself free from these false doctrines of the ntcc that dictate your every decision and be the Spirit-led Christian God wants you to be, not the whipping boy davis and kekel use you as: "a strong back with a weak mind." as tanya kekel says; something she learned from her devilish and selfish adopted parents, verna mae and rodger wilson davis. Trust us, that is the only way davis and kekel see you -- as someone to use and abuse.
Don and Ange
The only differences we noted were 1) polygamy
But ntcc has its own version of polygamy. While polygamy denotes multiple spouses at one time, the ntcc has a similar program: specifically the revolving-door divorce and remarriage / adultery - on - demand legacy. Face it, in ntcc marriage vow is worthless.
Because the ntcc encourages exclusivity to their cult alone, people willingly break their vows to God and their spouse in order to please the men who run ntcc.
This is wrong. God intended marriage to last a lifetime. God never said divorce your spouse if he or she wants to attend a different church.
The only reason ntcc is not EXACTLY like FLDS is because davis would rather have your money than multiple wives and children!
This statement is no longer accurate either.
davis does have multiple wives, just not officially. That is to say he is an adulterer.
He also is a pedophile, having had sex with minor girls while he was a legal adult (and married).
Nice. Your ntcc "pastor" is a pedophile.
The irony of it all.
Anonymous said,
The irony of it all
True. We were naively wrong. davis and the ntcc are EXACTLY! LIKE warren jeffs and FLDS except davis died before he getting imprisoned.
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