tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8463118149068513544.post4142648865573580040..comments2023-04-28T04:15:15.576-07:00Comments on ntcc Xer blog: New Testament Christian Churches of America, Inc. eX-Ministers' and eX-Members' Site: Tanya Davis Kekel: Who's Your Daddy? A Birthday Post For Rodger Wilson Davis (R-dub)Don and Angehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08130358238099845361noreply@blogger.comBlogger89125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8463118149068513544.post-75788008497068586432014-02-24T08:25:04.960-08:002014-02-24T08:25:04.960-08:00Yes Lisa we did do that ,but at that time we thoug...Yes Lisa we did do that ,but at that time we thought that was the thing to do ,cause we were thought that,was the way we should treat our kid's and if they were out of line we were to punish them for not listening,Yes they were only doll's but can you omagine what would of happen if thoses were real children they would of been beaten ,and damaged...This really didn't cross my mind till we was on the phone the other day and I was like WOW REALLY that's why we did that because the church taught us that we never knew that till just recently....Hmmm makes me wonder...<br /><br />Lorinoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8463118149068513544.post-37318292956570203012014-02-23T23:08:30.186-08:002014-02-23T23:08:30.186-08:00I always took there heads off Pam would go and put...I always took there heads off Pam would go and put the heads back on .. Davis told my mom every. Time I do that To smack me as hard as she could because. I was acting like a crazy person that is embarrassing barb Davis and the church ....... Lori and I would always play church we would first find the biggest sticks we could we would pick our dolls out and set them by us we would take turns preaching my doll was always taken out to get a spanking then her doll would get spanked.. She asked me why I punched her doll in the nose I told her because she said bad words Lori pulled her hair , I pulled the rest out told to listen. We'll barb. You where the reason I was crazyLisanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8463118149068513544.post-45529412416583132422014-02-23T22:55:05.545-08:002014-02-23T22:55:05.545-08:00There is a a apology to my friend who spent the ni...There is a a apology to my friend who spent the night with me at 10yrs. Old. .. I can't tell her name I promised. You spent the night with me God I hope you are reading this.. You Told me that Davis when your bad makes you get naked and if you don't have oral sex with him he spanks and plays with you while you sight the prayer Now I lay me down to sleep I pray The Lord my soul to keep.. I am so sorry I did not believe you. ..You told me to be good Davis was telling people he wanted to spank me... Please I am begging you leave that church please. God doesn't want you sad... Friend this bothers me I did not believe you forgive me please forgive me. Call me I will help youLisanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8463118149068513544.post-80621183245410101002014-02-19T22:40:57.888-08:002014-02-19T22:40:57.888-08:00I want to ask a question to Barbara. Norton, I...I want to ask a question to Barbara. Norton, I won't call you mom anymore you don't deserve that name... How is it that Davis, you think is your friend and Pastor? When you have to pay him for counseling, and to walk in that church door? Me I don't have to pay my friends and they don't pay me. No matter what they need they always know they can call me anytime of the day or night. Lori we grew up sometimes went our own ways but the sec her and I are on that phone it is like we have been to gather we know each other that we'll.. My new friends I am opening my heart to them so they will know I love them and I will be here for them........Davis is not your friendLisa.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8463118149068513544.post-32507609431544929162014-02-18T10:14:43.040-08:002014-02-18T10:14:43.040-08:00Iam so embarrsed by all of this,I personally didn&...Iam so embarrsed by all of this,I personally didn't like davis was totally terrified of him,and I kept my distance from him..I feel bad for all the horrifying thing's that happen to the men,children,and women in there.I looked up to Ashmore he was my favorite his kid's and my brother;s and sister's grew up together,and I honestly have to say nothing like this ever happen to my family,Thank God My Mother WAS A Mother to her kid's and wasn't caught up in this cult,I'mdeeply sorry for all of the sadness in many of the kid's lives the way they were treated and mistreated,the day will come!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8463118149068513544.post-90454719721485176132014-02-12T21:33:28.714-08:002014-02-12T21:33:28.714-08:00Mark G they took the one thing from you that is g...Mark G they took the one thing from you that is gone .. It was a hateful act. Julie I understand and thank God you have the courage to stand up and defend yourself..we are not there prisoners anymore. Johnny Jordan you are going back to jail! I will fight to the day I die to make you pay. Davis you hell you will welcome because I will be there for Julie my sister PAm and Brenda we are not taking it anymore,!, Mom you are going to die a lonely death in jail or all alone.. As for Heaven I will be there and I will help them lock the gates you are not welcomed. You have lied and beat us dragged us down .. I am her to say that it's over ....<br />Lisanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8463118149068513544.post-25397923096815866252014-02-12T21:33:28.104-08:002014-02-12T21:33:28.104-08:00Mark G they took the one thing from you that is g...Mark G they took the one thing from you that is gone .. It was a hateful act. Julie I understand and thank God you have the courage to stand up and defend yourself..we are not there prisoners anymore. Johnny Jordan you are going back to jail! I will fight to the day I die to make you pay. Davis you hell you will welcome because I will be there for Julie my sister PAm and Brenda we are not taking it anymore,!, Mom you are going to die a lonely death in jail or all alone.. As for Heaven I will be there and I will help them lock the gates you are not welcomed. You have lied and beat us dragged us down .. I am her to say that it's over ....<br />Lisanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8463118149068513544.post-37667798845427900202014-02-12T21:15:07.500-08:002014-02-12T21:15:07.500-08:00Mark G, Julie and I went through a horrible exp...Mark G, Julie and I went through a horrible experience that you can't understand because you are blinded you live in darkness. It takes many years and lots of counseling to deal with this. .. What if this was your child that was raped and spanked? Davis and St.Clairs. Sit in. The church with others with. Smiles. Thinking they got away with this. The truth will set us free and will show the inside of them and that is hate greed and lust. Men can't touch there bodies because that is unholy but let's. Molest the children. Do you know. What it feel like no you have to cover the mirrors in your house because you are ugly and nasty inside and out Lisanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8463118149068513544.post-84405905665031842062014-02-12T21:01:40.366-08:002014-02-12T21:01:40.366-08:00As I. Continue. The rest of this is I ...... ...As I. Continue. The rest of this is I ...... Just remember. I was. The girl. You used to spit on me and kick me? I called you write after you left. I told you I admit I was a horrible child. If you could admit to me your where not the best mom you said no you told me you never loved me and you went off on me. Then you wonder why us kids never call you. Could it be when Johns home you talk sweet when Johns gone you are so meAn. You used to tell the church ladies you and I where so close when was thT when you where choking me and we had a life and death experience......Lisanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8463118149068513544.post-85558516654076753312014-02-12T15:27:12.515-08:002014-02-12T15:27:12.515-08:00Lisa said:
" I would tell her Rhinos really ...Lisa said:<br /><br />" I would tell her Rhinos really do charge at random. We would laugh..."<br /><br />DNA said:<br /><br />That about sums it up. I'm glad that you and Lori were able to survive to tell about it. Don and Angehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08130358238099845361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8463118149068513544.post-79170720593031481422014-02-12T15:23:39.990-08:002014-02-12T15:23:39.990-08:00Lisa said:
"I do want to say I and Lori wher...Lisa said:<br /><br />"I do want to say I and Lori where planning on leaving anyway I told Lori I would rather die and go to hell then to live like this."<br /><br />DNA said:<br /><br />How sad is it that a child would rather die and go to hell than to hang around some church and get physically and spiritually abused. I'm so glad that you got away from these sick people. Don and Angehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08130358238099845361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8463118149068513544.post-57027251722708920712014-02-12T15:18:32.530-08:002014-02-12T15:18:32.530-08:00Lisa said:
Every time you give them money you are...Lisa said:<br /><br />Every time you give them money you are telling them it's ok to molest children, it's ok to call people out, Please take heed. Members ask your leaders and board members. How dose that have to do with Christ?<br /><br />DNA said:<br /><br />If an adult were to buy a case of beer and invite a bunch of highschoolers over to their house, the police would haul the adults off to jail. If the adult were smoking pot with the children he would get hauled off to prison. In a cult, the cult leaders get away with molesting young girls because they and their parents put fear in their hearts. Look at all the kids that Warren Jeffs molested, before someone stood up for themselves. The ntcc is the same.<br /><br />If you are giving money to these perverts you are financing their sexual deviance. I wonder whose money it was that Philandering Phil Kinson spent at the whorehouse. I'm sure it wasn't his own money that he had smartly invested. Anyway I'm sure he is in line for a mansion of his own.<br /><br />I wonder how much of our money and your money made it easier for these predators to molest girls. Hush money, bribes and settling out of court. Oh, you don't think that happens? People aren't stupid, they know Davis has unlimited cash flow and is answerable to nobody. I bet he's paid his way out of a lot of situations, that the average person would have done hard time for. Don and Angehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08130358238099845361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8463118149068513544.post-67062162469339137392014-02-12T10:46:16.945-08:002014-02-12T10:46:16.945-08:00Vic said:
"Paul Jordan didn't get caugh...Vic said: <br /><br />"Paul Jordan didn't get caught masturbating; what happened is that someone apparently had stated it was sinful, and he got under a bunch of "conviction" and ran away. George Jordan found him at the bus station and brought him back. RW called all the men (except Paul wasn't there) downstairs at Forest Avenue and raked us over the coals."<br /><br />DNA said: I'm not doubting either account. I wasn't there, but I've also heard Davis preach against masturbating. He has been known to be a double standard hypocrite. You have to question the source, Davis, who is a child molesting pervert, and harbors those who he allows to do the same. Lisa was fairly young when all this happened and she heard about it, so you gotta figure people were talking and Paul Jordan was probably in the awkward position as one who silences the gossip when he enters a room. Maybe Lisa got her information from her pervert brother in law Johnny Jordan who also was a child molesting freak. You gotta wonder about all of these Jordans. Lisa said he got caught masturbating and if a person ran away because they were doing something that was frowned upon in the ntcc, it's just like getting caught. Maybe Davis wanted some more of his tithe money, before he got on the bus. Who knows. But this one thing I know is that the ntcc is one seriously messed up freak show and those who claim to be the leaders are all guilty of allowing it to become what it is. Don and Angehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08130358238099845361noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8463118149068513544.post-34252564656326468002014-02-12T08:57:22.895-08:002014-02-12T08:57:22.895-08:00Paul Jordan didn't get caught masturbating; wh...Paul Jordan didn't get caught masturbating; what happened is that someone apparently had stated it was sinful, and he got under a bunch of "conviction" and ran away. George Jordan found him at the bus station and brought him back. RW called all the men (except Paul wasn't there) downstairs at Forest Avenue and raked us over the coals. He told us the bible doesn't say anything about that and he was the pastor and no one else was to do his job (blah blah blah, etc.). I bet there was some jacking off going on that night! WooHoo, something fun isn't a sin, can you believe it--we don't have to live like ascetic monks! Strange doctrine for a "holiness" church, but I have to commend RW for at least not piling that on top of all the other fake guilt they imposed on us. That place is a demented circus, and we were jumping through flaming hoops at the ringmaster's whim. Send in the clowns! Oh wait...they were already running the show.Vic Johansonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8463118149068513544.post-53363754847815667072014-02-11T21:03:40.118-08:002014-02-11T21:03:40.118-08:00I do want to say I and Lori where planning on leav...I do want to say I and Lori where planning on leaving anyway I told Lori I would rather die and go to hell then to live like this. My mom heard the conversation and started smacking me. She was saying bad words she got even more mad saying I made her say God name in vein.. She was so hot She kept cursing. Saying she can ask God forgiveness. While she punched my back and was kicking me...... Lori and I where younger and I learned to make humor out of everything. I would tell her Rhinos. Really do charge at random. We would laugh... Lisanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8463118149068513544.post-75779853349857664162014-02-11T20:51:39.701-08:002014-02-11T20:51:39.701-08:00I was reminded of a time when pastor Davis. Had a ...I was reminded of a time when pastor Davis. Had a men's meeting to discuss. The time when Paul Jordan was caught master bating. Davis told them it was a sin .. He called m out made him come upfront. How awful... Every time you give them money you are telling them it's ok to molest children, it's ok to call people out, Please take heed. Members ask your leaders and board members. How dose that have to do with Christ?Lisanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8463118149068513544.post-45899557602619929692014-02-10T20:03:43.779-08:002014-02-10T20:03:43.779-08:00Lisa said.... I. Kept telling her the truth would ...Lisa said.... I. Kept telling her the truth would come out in the end. Thank God. the truth came out.<br /><br />Thanks Lisa for speaking up and for continuing to speak. You are amazing person and such an important voice to the truth.<br /><br />Hugs,<br /><br />JulieJulienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8463118149068513544.post-21485074693822062752014-02-10T20:00:13.421-08:002014-02-10T20:00:13.421-08:00Anon said...We send you both, all our love, and ho...<br />Anon said...We send you both, all our love, and honor you both, you are the voices of those who Jesus defends. The least of these...<br /><br />Thanks for your love it is both amazing and appreciate.<br /><br />To be loved amazes me for to be loved is still something I find is hard to wrap my mind around. For to be unloved for so long it is hard to understand why one could love me now. Even the love of others is shocking still to me.<br /><br />Then you say you honor me. Respect is something I give but am not use to receiving. As people are starting to show it, I find myself look at everything going what is there to respect when I feel so much like a used up piece of garbage. Yet I am trying to learn to respect myself realizing that maybe I am on this earth for purpose. Maybe I can be a voice even if I have so little in life to offer. <br /><br />Things are changing for good but it is a very long journey for I don't get here in the blink of an eye and it won't all change in the blink of an eye either.<br /><br />Anon said...How could these things have happened? Where were all the Holy Men, and women of God?<br /><br />They were busy listening to the false "MOG".<br /><br />I thought even at 16 and older people in the org knew what happened and believe it was meant to be in my life. I would at 16 look at people thinking wonder if this one thinks I deserve it, I caused it, or do they think the purpose of me beginning born was to satisfy men. <br /><br />During this time I would have never thought not everyone knew what was going on.<br /><br />After I left just like others things were said of me.<br /><br />Some were told nothing, some were told I had a lying issue and had left God, some were told I died giving birth to my daughter and that my daughter died, then you have those that came after I left that were told my parents only had one child and it was as if I was never born to my parents.<br /><br />Why those that truly knew the truth,did nothing, I can never understand?<br /><br />I am thankful to find God does care about me.<br /><br />Trust is not an easy thing for me and sometime it seems like I go 1 step forward and 4 steps back but I continue to work on it; healing just a little more each day.<br /><br />Hugs,<br /><br />JulieJulienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8463118149068513544.post-65885303406801491892014-02-10T18:49:37.473-08:002014-02-10T18:49:37.473-08:00Someone should ask Mary Gesang about what happened...Someone should ask Mary Gesang about what happened to her.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8463118149068513544.post-5025971212936797802014-02-10T14:52:42.413-08:002014-02-10T14:52:42.413-08:00I want to thank everyone for giving us. Love and s...I want to thank everyone for giving us. Love and support. I am willing to do anything to see that they go to jail. My sister Pam, told her story. Davis. Use to tell her lies about Johnny and. He tores us apart for a long time.. I. Kept telling her the truth would come out in the end. Thank God. the truth came out. I despise everything he ever did to me. Davis I hate. For helping Johnny, for thinking. He could spank us touch my family and friends you are a nasty old man.. My prayer God please close down Ntcc. Stop letting him hurt more families and children..Lisanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8463118149068513544.post-92143600069266866552014-02-10T14:52:41.458-08:002014-02-10T14:52:41.458-08:00I want to thank everyone for giving us. Love and s...I want to thank everyone for giving us. Love and support. I am willing to do anything to see that they go to jail. My sister Pam, told her story. Davis. Use to tell her lies about Johnny and. He tores us apart for a long time.. I. Kept telling her the truth would come out in the end. Thank God. the truth came out. I despise everything he ever did to me. Davis I hate. For helping Johnny, for thinking. He could spank us touch my family and friends you are a nasty old man.. My prayer God please close down Ntcc. Stop letting him hurt more families and children..Lisanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8463118149068513544.post-53247736381677149692014-02-10T11:01:05.635-08:002014-02-10T11:01:05.635-08:00
I am going to send this to the aclu, these girls...<br /><br />I am going to send this to the aclu, these girls civil rights were<br />Violated beyond anything I have ever known.<br /><br />We send you both, all our love, and honor you both, you are the voices of those who Jesus defends. The least of these...<br /><br />How could these things have happened? Where were all the Holy Men, and women of God?<br /><br />What you suffered is beyond comprehension. ...I wish I had known,<br />But I knew none of this, nor did I think it was possible. Lisa, maybe you in time, could get brenda to put down what she knows, I love you both, and I pray for you both. Your in Christ always...anonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8463118149068513544.post-23538853022033023672014-02-10T02:15:07.392-08:002014-02-10T02:15:07.392-08:00Kat said...WOW I'm just getting to read these ...Kat said...WOW I'm just getting to read these comments - Lisa, another brave trooper! I'm so sorry dear for all that you endured. You and Julie are doing an amazing job with sharing your stories. We are here for you. We love you both and support you! None of this is any of your fault and I just pray you heal and love yourself and see yourself the way God loves you. I also pray you know that none of this is of God. Human kind (Adam & Eve) brought death, sin, & sickness into this world. Idiots such as RWD and the borg-gang just like to capitalize on it. They WILL have their day! <br /><br />Yes Kat I agree Lisa is a trooper and one smart lady to see that what they did was wrong.<br /><br />Thank you Kat for showing your support to Lisa. Support even through comments go a long ways.<br /><br />Thank you also for the support you give me as well it is such a great help and blessing to me.<br /><br />Prayers for both of us go along ways.<br /><br />The only way they can sleep is with a harden heart towards God in my opinion.<br /><br />Hugs,<br /><br />JulieJulienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8463118149068513544.post-59482608940854363402014-02-10T02:08:20.609-08:002014-02-10T02:08:20.609-08:00Lisa said...You have the never Davis to call us wh...Lisa said...You have the never Davis to call us whores. When behind close doors you sleep with the children. Julie and I are not the only ones. There where many others... <br /><br />I still remember asking my mother what is a whore? She said, It is a woman that like being in a bed with men more than anything else.<br /><br />As I got a little older and Davis would refer to me as such....I would think there is no way I am a whore for I don't like being in a bed with any man ever.<br /><br />Lisa said....When behind close doors you sleep with the children. Julie and I are not the only ones. <br /><br />No we are not the only ones....sick people yet they think they deserve honor.<br /><br />What is your definition of honor or what do you defined deserving of honor?<br /><br />Hugs,<br /><br />Julie<br /><br />Hugs,<br /><br />JulieJulienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8463118149068513544.post-31557344905510304692014-02-10T01:57:41.919-08:002014-02-10T01:57:41.919-08:00Lisa said...I do recall when I as a kid. We gave t...Lisa said...I do recall when I as a kid. We gave tithe money in the basket. Then they where asking people to give more money to buy him a Cadillac. Davis needed a Cadillac. . Then when Davis came we had to go outside. So Olson could brag.<br /><br />Their cars were the accessories to the idols they made themselves out to be.<br /><br />Yes my parents gave money towards Davis get his Cadillac but they couldn't buy me proper shoes that fit. No it was more important the car the "MOG" was driving then the fact my shoe were way too small and messed up.<br /><br />Hugs,<br /><br />Julie<br /><br />Hugs,<br /><br />JulieJulienoreply@blogger.com