Ashmore Seeks Healing from Another Cult

James and Helen Ashmore Leaders of Jesus Revival Ministries

The Following Public Facebook post was posted by James Ashmore's Commentary page to the Pastor of Bethel Church (Cult), Bill Johnson:

‎James Ashmore's Commentary‎ to Bill Johnson

November 3, 2014 · 

Bill, I am a pastor and leader in our church org. and after approx. 40 some years of being a part of this ministry, my wife and I have (with much difficulty) determined it best to leave it. Please remember me in prayer as this isn't easy since we are in our mid-60's. We trust God however, to start a new ministry through us. Some years ago, God started impressing on me that JESUS is the true focus of ministry, NOT CHURCH DOCTRINES. It seemed that Jesus was being treated only as one of many subjects to preach on and that disturbed me. I have also had a revelation of GRACE like never before!
I have seen miracles when praying for people, but it seems our org. doesn't place a priority on these things. Rather than be critical any longer, we feel it best to leave. Please pray for my health since I have been suffering from Ulcerative Colitis for some time now and it seems no one's prayers or even commands (including my own) have brought any result. Thank you so much for your taking time to read this- I just don't know who else to turn to for ministry that I can have any confidence in right now.
James

This was written pretty close to the time that Ashmore left the ntcc.  The Pastor of the Bethel Church, Bill Johnson, is a lot like Ashmore.  Bill's ministry is based on signs and wonders.  Bill Johnson believes that Angel feathers fall in his church, his home, and at restaurants.  He also believes that "Glory Clouds" come down in his church and describes these glory clouds as large puffs of gold flakes. He claims that gold flakes fall from the ceiling of his church.  He has a video of a bunch of people in ntcc style worship and a cloud of smoke that looks really fake billowing in a corner of the church.  He also believes a lot of really weird doctrines like one practice called "grave soaking".  Grave soaking, also referred to as grave sucking is where cult members go to graves of famous Christians like C.S. Lewis and lay on their graves to soak up the anointing of God. Another really weird practice that they participate in is being drunk in the spirit, where cult members laugh uncontrollably, and twitch uncontrollably in what looks like epileptic fits for very long periods of time. None of this is biblical, by the way.  This is the guy, Bill Johnson, that James Ashmore wanted to pray for him to heal him from his Ulcerative Colitis.

James Ross Ashmore Sought Healing From a Cult Leader  Named Bill Johnson Whose Necromancing Cult Members are Seen here Laying Out Over the Graves of Famous Dead Christians to Soak up Their Spirituality

It's also interesting and noteworthy that Ashmore makes it a point to mention that "rather than be critical any longer, it was best to leave" (the ntcc).  So he leaves the ntcc and shortly after writing this prayer request to cult leader Bill Johnson, Ashmore warns people to flee the Whore.  Is calling the ntcc the "Whore" not critical?

In another Facebook plea for healing, Ashmore reached out to a woman named Aliss Cresswell.  Aliss and her husband Rob, lead a group called MorningStar Europe.  This group also has a cult following and many of its ex-members blog against them and the people that they are associated with. Aliss and Rob Cresswell run the European arm of the MorningStar organization founded by Rick Joyner who is a huckster and grifter of the highest (or lowest) sort.  Joyner claims that he has eaten from the tree of life, that he has spoken to the deceased, that he has have more power than the Apostles, and that there will be a civil war in the church.  Are you beginning to see a pattern here?  This is the type of people that Ashmore aligns himself with. Ashmore is a divine healing huckster.  He wants to be just like these other mega church healing hucksters and miracle merchandisers.  Do you really want someone who "doesn't have enough faith for his own healing" to demand that you have the faith for your healing?  You don't have to believe us; but it's all about money and prestige for Ashmore.

‎James Ashmore's Commentary‎ to Aliss Cresswell

March 17, 2014 · 

Aliss, can you pray for me? I was diagnosed with ulcerative colitis a few years ago and I have been on Prednisone since. I am tired of using this medication and want to be free. Thank you, and please tell me if you have received this post, God bless you!  

Rather than "Getting a Hold of God" for himself, Ashmore Seeks Healing from This British Woman Who Runs Miracle Shops with signs that say, "We Pray For Miracles! Better than 90% get Miracles" 

Why is Ashmore seeking prayer from other cult leaders?  Ashmore is a big time huckster.  He tries to convince everyone else that he has this super spiritual healing ministry, but he can't even get a hold of God to get healing for himself or free him from his dependency on Prednisone.   Do you know why Ashmore seeks out these Kooks?  There is a lot of money in it. Most of the hucksters that involve themselves in this type of showmanship, create an atmosphere of hysteria among their followers through signs and wonders.  They can move people with their fair speeches and great swelling words.  They have incredible music ministries and people get caught up in the feeling. You have to follow the money trail to figure out what these hucksters are all about.

Bill Johnson's Wife, Beni, Sucks the Grave of C.S. Lewis

If you do a google search on Bill Johnson and throw in the word cult or false doctrine you will find out what Bill Johnson is all about.  Ashmore has to go to these money grubbing false prophets for healing because his own healing ministry is a scam.  Ashmore's right hand man is Mathew Meinecke, who is really into the whole signs and wonders preaching. Meinecke draws attention to himself by laying on the ground in public places pretending like he is crucified while preaching at passersby. We call him the blood moon prophet because he preached on the blood moons as if they were fulfilling present day prophesy; but there is no prophesy in the scripture to support his claims of present day relevance. Blood moons are only mentioned in the bible in reference to the great and notable day of the Lord, but Meinecke, like many other Hucksters, likes to create new false doctrines; and Ashmore didn't seem to have any objections.  Meinecke and Ashmore are both really into signs and wonders.

Matthew 16:4 "A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas."  

Bill Johnson and the New Age


The Bethel Church has an unbelievable music ministry, featuring groups like Jesus Culture and other artists who are incredibly inspirational in their music. They do concerts that bring in huge amounts of money; and they also have recorded labels that bring in lots of cash.  They might be sincere Christians; but they are in a cult; and their money is going somewhere.  I doubt that the Jesus Culture members are getting rich off of it.  They are being exploited for their talent, a lot like the ntcc members are being exploited for their youth and energy.

I know that Jesus Culture brings in a ton of money; and Bethel church has its own recording studio that they invested around 1.6 million dollars to purchase.  They sell tons of stuff and have conferences with registration fees, where they sell T-shirts and lots of other paraphernalia.   They also have a 70 acre cult compound and a bible school that costs $3600 per student to attend. This cult compound has become a Christian tourist trap, where Christians come from miles around and spend on average of $125.00 per visit. Come on people, use your heads. Is this what Christ envisioned for His church?

Col 2:8 "Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ."

The reason Ashmore keeps his Commentary open to his own circle of choice friends only, is that he doesn't want to be confronted with stuff like this.  He can't have a public page like normal ministers, but he has to limit his group to those who he invites, only.  Ashmore has read our blogpost and our letter that we wrote to him, but refuses to answer for any of his actions that have hurt quite a few people.  It didn't take long for word to get back to Ashmore after we posted about his daughter, Lorrie DiFrancesco, no longer attending ntcc services faithfully.  After someone shared this with us, Ashmore complained about someone "cutting and pasting" stuff from his private commentary.  This is called damage control, folks.  Ashmore hasn't changed.  He reacts the same way that the ntcc hucksters react.  He is ashamed of his actions so he has to operate in a private and secretive way.  He doesn't want public scrutiny because it takes away from his bottom line and exposes him for the huckster he is. So now we find that when someone shares Ashmore's private stuff he throws a tantrum.  It seems Ashmore's new found love for grace only extends to the people that agree with him.

Ashmore does have a blog that is public, but it is not open for the public to comment on, so we are going to use our public forum to discuss it.  If you want to know what Ashmore is all about, read the section on divine healing.  The following statements were copied and pasted from Ashmore's public blog:

Look at Christ, the Passover Lamb as foreshadowed in the book of Exodus: not only did its blood set them free from slavery, but “there was not one FEEBLE person among their tribes”, (Ps. 105:37), which precluded the healing of many of those Israelites prior to their departure from Egypt!

Note: They went out FREE, they went out HEALED, and they went out RICH!

They went out RICH!  Now we are getting down to the heart of the matter, and it's not about you being rich.  It's about Ashmore the huckster getting rich!  It's all about the money!!!$$$$!!!!

How can one pray “the prayer of faith” if one is still in doubt of the Lord’s will to heal??? Nowhere are we commanded to pray “if it be Thy will” when His will is plainly revealed to us in the scriptures!

So why did Ashmore whine to Bill Johnson? "Please pray for my health since I have been suffering from Ulcerative Colitis for some time now and it seems no one's prayers or even commands (including my own) have brought any result."

And why did Ashmore whine to Aliss Cresswell? "Aliss, can you pray for me? I was diagnosed with ulcerative colitis a few years ago and I have been on Prednisone since. I am tired of using this medication and want to be free."

As Ashmore asks the readers of his blog:

HOW CAN ONE PRAY "THE PRAYER OF FAITH" IF ONE IS STILL IN DOUBT OF THE LORD'S WILL TO HEAL???

Not only does Ashmore not believe it for himself, but he expects you to believe it.  And why does Ashmore go to the most whacked out cult leaders he can find and ask them to pray for him?  Ashmore admires these cult leaders because he wants to be just like them.  But do you know who is going to pay for this enterprise?  You are if you follow him. How many innocent Christians will be manipulated by these faith healing false prophets?  Who pays the price?

1 Tim 4:1-2  "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;"

It's easy for Ashmore to point his crooked finger at you when it comes to doubting the Lord's will to heal, but what about practicing what you preach, Jimbo?  Or could it be that it's all a scam, just like it was in the ntcc?  Now we don't believe that divine healing is a scam.  We just think that Ashmore uses divine healing in the same way Benny Hinn, Bill Johnson and Aliss Cresswell use it - to bring in large amounts of cash and receive the praise and admiration of those gullible enough to follow him and financially support him.

People have shared how that they were blamed for not having faith to be healed when they were prayed for by Ashmore and they were not healed. And now we find Ashmore going to other cult leaders for healing prayers. If you look at Ashmore's ministry, it is a microcosm of many of these mega church, mega cults, who exist to bring in money hand over fist. This is what Ashmore is going for. The unbiblical showmanship and sensationalism is the same, just on a smaller scale.  As the money rolls in the circus will grow.

James Ashmore and his Jesus Revival Ministries Cult  Rent out this 1.5 Million Dollar Edifice in a Very Expensive Neighborhood in San Diego

I know that a bunch of you out there are huge Ashmore fans and you will not turn on your brains to see what this is really all about.  You don't want to believe anything bad about Ashmore.  To many of you, Ashmore is a replacement for the ntcc.  You seek his approval and he validates your reasons for leaving the ntcc. Many of you feel like you need his approval just like so many of us sought the approval of the ntcc leadership. Those of you that are following Ashmore and are big buddies with him will not even consider what he did during his 40 years in the ntcc, much less what he is trying to do now. You will ignore this blog post and you will accuse us of being fault finders and haters.  Birds of a feather, flock together.  Do your homework. We hope you will not be deceived a second time by this huckster, but we can't force anyone to use common sense. A brain is a terrible thing to waste.‎

Endangering Children: Life in NTCC Inc., New Testament Christian Churches of America, Inc. Graham, WA and St. Louis, MO

NTCC has hidden yet another pervert; who exploited children by viewing child pornography.

Perverts like to get
 their hands on children
 by passing it off as 'tickling' or
 'innocent hugs'; but the truth is
 they are grooming the child
 for much worse activities
 including sexual abuse and rape. 

We learned of this story today, through a comment that we've copied and pasted into this blog post (see yellow letters on black background for the comment).  But this is not the first time NTCC has hidden a pervert.  NTCC has harbored convicted child rapist Michael Fontenot [read more] (twin brother of Louis Fontenot) [see pic] and NTCC has harbored convicted child rapist Johnny Dean Jordan (the brother of George Jordan (wife Kathy) and Timothy Paul Jordan (wife Veneta) (pics and stories here).

  

These men have all been arrested for these crimes.  Fontenot and Jordan have been in and out of prison for their crimes against children.  What is stunning about all of this, is the NTCC's persistent pattern of harboring and hiding those who hurt children.  We have these three public stories about child abusers.  How much more abuse has the NTCC hidden? 

When you read these stories, you learn that the abuse victims and their innocent family members were demonized by the church leadership, told to move on and "find another church", or run out of the church on a rail in the most abusive and vile manner (read more).  Meanwhile, the child abusers were molly-coddled, handled with kid gloves, and hidden within the church.  In our opinion, this group, NTCC, is not sound. Do not endanger your children by attending the NTCC or remaining with them. 

A child in danger rides a tricycle on the side of a road.  You wouldn't endanger your child by placing him or her there; don't endanger your child by placing them or leaving them in the NTCC, which has a history of hiding perverts while demonizing whistle blowers who report the abuse.

The comment below came in today, 9/17/16.

Rev Kipp had been in Saint Louis for years. It always weirded me out he wanted to be around children, mostly young girls. He was a single brother, just something seemed really off about him. At first Nichelle was like oh he us a great guy, and told my family how great he was. He always wanted to hug and tickle the girls, I was like stay away. One day I was walking down stairs and Rev Kipp came over when I was helping my youngest down the stairs. He tried to hug or tickle my 5 year old, Nichelle actually yelled at Kipp that day saying dont touch the girls, she was beat red in the face and very upset. She then yelled at me and told me to watch my children better, my youngest was only 2 and needed help going down the stairs, I turned my back for a second and Kipp was there by my 5 year old. Nichelle knew there was pending charges against this pervert, but blamed me for not watching my kids. And this pervert was still allowed to come to church. An older lady who attended the church was like I never had a good feeling about him. The leadership knew Kipp had previously molested girls, this time it was Spring of 2010 police arrested Kipp at his ntcc rental property there in Saint Louis. He had been viewing child porn. The leadership knew of the investigation but he was still allowed to come to church. I was blamed for not watching my kids. Kipp was a monster nobody told me what was really going on, it was in the police records, one of the Tiemans let it slip one day what he was arrested for after the fact. They thought we as people were dumb, they blamed me for not watching my daughter, nothing happened to them. It's just this monster named Kipp was always around kids. We were told he is a good brother, apparently not. After the police were involved he was a really bad guy. They harbored him, then kicked him to the curb when police were involved. They use people, they hide wicked, and if anything is done wrong, you feel like it's your fault. They've done it time and time again.

Saturday, September 17, 2016 4:28:00 AM

 Public Picture of
 Timothy George Kipp
  Picture Found on
 Missouri State Sex
 Offender Registry (Here)
 Not to be Confused with
Timothy or George Jordan 

We found this picture of the only sex offender named Kipp that matches the time frame and the crime he was charged with.  Does anyone else who attended ntcc during this time frame recognize this individual?  If any readers of this blog recognize this individual, please let us know if this is the guy who was identified in the above comment as a Reverend in the ntcc.   He certainly looks like the Kipp I saw back in the '90s in the NTCC in Graham, WA in the bible school (now called a seminary).  As I recall, Olson had Kipp stand and pray before the class began.  Talk about an endorsement!  And Olson, in the NTCC, is revered. People talk in hushed tones about how you can just feel the Holy Ghost dripping off of him.  Really?  Wouldn't the same Holy Ghost clue in a so-called man of gawd as to Kipp's perverse delight in child pornography?  Ahem.  People, use some common sense and stop believing the hype about these self-appointed religious hucksters.  And don't trust your children to strangers. Trust your gut.  Do your homework.  Ask if the church does background checks on those around your children. If not, keep your kids close.  Better still, get them and yourself out of this child-molester hiding group called NTCC!