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He Loves A House More Than God: Bonco Mansions of kekel (l) and davis (r)

He Loves A House More Than God:  Bonco Mansions of kekel (l) and davis (r)
"He loves a house more than God:" *Bonco* Mansions of kekel (l) and davis (r). Meanwhile, on the mission field: ntcc Missionaries to the Philippines "Rev. and Sis. Mackert ... found a place, 9 feet by 14 feet [9'x14'] and one bathroom. It is on the 6th floor and there is no elevator. The last place they had stayed, they had to share a common bathroom with the other tenants! Yikes! This place has their very own private bathroom, although the Rev. shared there is no seat on the throne, and no way to attach one…." from The Devonshire Files Sunday, May 28, 2006 Visit from the Mackerts (5/06). ** Should you know where the money ($$$$$) goes? **

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Wednesday, January 28, 2015

Bro Ken Exposes Sexual Predators Whom NTCC Hid and Helped (Allegedly)

Brother Kenneth MacPherson, Bro Ken, as he appeared during his days with NTCC.
Brother Kenneth MacPherson
After speaking to Brother Ken MacPherson over the phone we learned a great deal. Bro Ken was very down to earth and quickly endeared himself to us as a very likable guy, and was able to share more details of his situation directly with Ange and I over the phone. Some of the things that this brother went through were horrifying beyond belief. When you think you've heard it all, you find out there are more souls who have suffered unimaginable things and as usual their voices are ignored by the crooked and corrupt leaders of the ntcc.

With his permission we are going to share some more of what Bro Ken shared with us; but we are going to leave out the graphic details.  In Ken's first letter he summed up the best that he could, what he went through while attending the church and NTCC bible school.  Ken has had a stroke and it's hard for him to write.  He often shares written words of encouragement at his church, but is helped by the secretary who helps transcribe his words into writing.  Sharing things this personal in nature is something that he had to do without any help from anyone.  We think Brother Ken did an awesome job of sharing his original thoughts; but in our phone conversation he connected many of the dots, clarified some things, and introduced some very interesting facts.

Rev. John Rodrigues Saves Ken's Life:
Bro Ken was reached originally in a servicemen's home down in Ft. Polk, Louisiana.  Rev. John Rodrigues was the pastor down there in the late 70's.  Rev. Rodrigues is probably the only board member that I have any respect for in the ntcc.  I'm not sure he is included in the ntcc's future plans and is not listed as a current board member; but he has served on the board in the past.  I've spent a minimal amount of time with the Rodrigueses; and they were not cut from the same cloth that many of the ntcc preachers were.  Back in those days the brothers from the home used to go out and sing songs with guitars and tambourines and maracas while fellow-shipping, soul-winning and inviting others to church.  During one of these ntcc soul-winning sessions, Bro Ken was talking to a man and got separated from the rest of the brothers and was attacked.  He woke up in a bathtub hours later and realized what had happened.  He had been sexually assaulted and his description of what had happened was so horrific, that we aren't going to share the details. When he realized what had happened, Bro Ken slit his wrist but wasn't bleeding out fast enough; so he found a rope and was going to hang himself when Rev. Rodrigues found him.  Bro Ken shared that Rev. Rodrigues later told him that he cut service short that evening and asked the members to pray while he went out looking for Brother Ken.  He found him just in time to tell him that God loves him and he saved the brother's life that night.  Rev. Rodrigues didn't say, You are a filthy homosexual and that's why this happened to you, like some in ntcc did.  Instead, Rev. John Rodrigues did what a true Christian would do, and that was to console the brother.  Later on Brother Ken found out who the man was who assaulted him; and at his Court Martial the man confessed that there were 10 people who were involved in assaulting him!

Davis Plays The Blame Game:
Brother Ken was in the Army and was with the CID (Criminal Investigation Department).  When Davis found out the details of Ken's rape and what had happened afterward, he immediately flew down to insert himself into the situation in a way that is so despicable, and, sadly, so typical of Rodger Davis - with no compassion or human decency.  Here's what happened.  Rev. Rodrigues thought Brother Ken should go to the hospital and get stitches; but Davis did not want any attention drawn to the Servicemen's Home and didn't want anyone from post taking a closer look.  So what did Davis do?  Davis accused the brother of spying on the organization, grabbing Ken's elbow, squeezing it very hard, and demanding of him, "Are you spying on us?" - remember, Ken worked for the Army's CID, usually investigating people regarding illegal drugs.  Ken stated that he pushed Davis' hand off of him and said, "Not unless you are selling drugs around here."  What kind of nut attacks a rape victim and accuses him of spying on the church?  But that is what demonic davis did - trying to blame a victim of rape.

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Victim Blaming:  Victims are often traumatized when they try to report rape.  This happens when the people who should help them instead ask questions that actually place blame on the victim.
Victim Blaming:
Asking questions in order to place blame on the victim for whatever happened to them.
What questions are victims being asked in the NTCC by its Leaders?  This Applies to both men and women.  Davis and others will blame victims so that they live with guilt and shame.
 Are you spying on us? 

"This is I" Beware There Is NO CONFIDENTIALITY
Later, after Ken got out of the military, he ended up going to St. Louis where he lived in the ntcc dorms and went to bible school under R.W. Davis.  This part of Brother Ken's testimony is filled with NTCC darkness and was not easy for him to share. The trouble started after writing what Ken calls a psychology paper, otherwise known as the "This is I" paper, in which Ken and others were instructed to write down their sins and past mistakes.  Our opinion is that Davis assigned this paper so that he could use it to his advantage and have ammunition against people to exploit them.  As so often is the case in the ntcc, there is no such thing as confidentiality like what is found in a normal healthy church. Instead,  Davis frequently broke the law and disregarded ministerial ethics by outing people for whatever they had written in those papers, or by telling everyone what they had shared with him in confidence.  Ken wrote in his paper that he loved a woman named Susan and had a child with her.  Later he spoke with Davis about her attending church; but Davis, The Match-Making-Manipulator, would not allow this woman an opportunity to become a Christian or allow her in "his" church.  If you ever wonder why there are so many homosexuals in the ntcc, you are about to find out why in this post.

(Homo)sexual Predators Protected and Hidden By Your NTCC
Bro Ken shared that in St. Louis, he was raped by Johnny Jordan in the dorm, was sexually attacked by Dave Peters, and was threatened with hell and homosexuality by Harold Batson.  Johnny Jordan attacked Ken while Jordan was hopped up on drugs and overpowered Ken.  Davis protected Johnny Jordan and match-made him with a very young Pam Norton.  Davis also tried to match-make Bro. Ken with a Hispanic woman, but that didn't work out.  Because in this case Ken stood up to the powerful cult leaders.  We're not saying that he didn't suffer a horrible cult experience, but on many occasions he actually stood up to the likes of Davis (by knocking his hand off his elbow), Ashmore (by refusing to shake his hand EVER), and Olson (which we will describe later on in this post). Many of us were not so strong.  But even a strong personality, when coupled with a sincere desire to serve God, and indoctrinated with the false teachings of davis, could be overcome.

Ken left the organization for a time but then came back because there were people that he cared about in the ntcc.  When he came back, he was in St. Louis; and Davis allowed him to attend Bible School.  If Davis had thought that he was a homosexual, davis wouldn't have let Ken back into the bible school.  This time around Ashmore was in authority over the bible school; and Ken had more troubles ahead of him. Ashmore seemed to be right in the middle of a whole lot of homosexual corruption but did nothing to stop it or prevent it from happening to others.  But you have to go back even further in time to see how homosexuality in the ntcc seemed to be like a cloud that followed Ashmore around everywhere he went.

Ashmore Allegedly Loves the Brothers a Little Bit TOo Much...
We heard that Donald Hummel and Perry Broadnax, who both made homosexual advances towards the brothers, were both with Ashmore in the early days of his so-called 'ministry'.  One man, whom we will leave anonymous for now, was in the original home where Ashmore was the pastor; and that anonymous man told us that Ashmore started the foot massage tradition that was later on imitated by other homosexual/bisexual ntcc Servicemen's Home directors.  While Ashmore was teaching the bible in the living room of the servicemen's home, with the bible in his lap, Ashmore would have certain brethren massage his feet. The guy who shared this with us asked us not to publish his name on the blogs; but he also said if ever needed, he would testify in a court of law against the ntcc.  My wife and I and another person were on a conference call with this man who kept sharing how he thought it was so weird for Ashmore to be getting foot massages from the brothers, and how it was weird for him to keep the bible on his lap like that.   Ashmore is also known in ntcc for his effeminate John Malkovich sounding voice and feminine mannerisms such as delicately folding his hands over at the wrists and crossing his legs in the way that is more often seen among women than men.

smAshmore:  Bashing The Brethren
Also in St. Louis, while Michael Rudy was allegedly cross-dressing as a woman and 'teaching' young children in the ntcc day school, disciplining them by having them lower their panties while he spanked them, we find that Ashmore himself was involved in something that stinks to high heaven.  After Johnny Jordan had already attacked and sexually assaulted Brother Ken, and Davis did nothing to correct Jordan or report Johnny to authorities, Johnny got promoted by Davis to work in the ntcc church office and to be married to 16 year old Pam Norton. And Ashmore allowed two other homosexuals to make advances toward Ken without any consequences against these men.  These two perverted individuals are David Peters and Harold Batson, who got a free pass from Ashmore.

Victim Blaming Becomes Bashing
Meanwhile smAshmore turned up the pressure on Brother Ken by bashing him publicly from the pulpit and lectern, finding fault with everything Ken did: Ken's shoes were never shiny enough; he needed a haircut; but when he got one he was still wrong; because then he didn't have sideburns; Ken's notes were never good enough; Ashmore would throw them back at Ken, the pages flying everywhere while Ashmore would say, "That's not what I said."; Ken's  homework assignments were also ripped up in front of other bible school students by bAshmore and on and on and on.  We've heard allegations of smAshmore targeting Moreno in a similar fashion and with a similar purpose - to run him off or get him out of the ntcc.

Families - Stay Away!  Impenitent Homos - You Are Welcome in NTCC
Why was Ashmore trying so hard to get rid of Ken?  Why was Ashmore harboring homosexual predators like Harold Batson and Dave Peters; who were all reported by Ken directly to Ashmore?  Normally people in ntcc attend only one of the ntcc chapels at a time.  Yet Ashmore allowed both Batson and Peters to attend both the ntcc Forest Ave. and Holly Hills churches.  That was unheard of in the ntcc.  Was Ashmore seeking alone time with these homosexuals? Meanwhile, all Ken wanted was for the woman he loved, Susan, and his child to be accepted by the church.  She wanted to come to church at first; but ntcc wouldn't allow it.  Does this sound familiar to anyone? Ken did all the right things.  He reported the sexual advances of Dave Peters to Ashmore; but bAshmore blamed Ken.  And even when Dave Peters started writing perverse letters to Ken, smAshmore kicked Ken out of the office when confronted with the truth.  Are these the actions of a Pastor that loves God and members of the church?  Is this normal behavior?  bAshmore blamed Ken and told him that it was his fault.  Do you wonder why innocent victims live in constant guilt and shame?

Ashmore Lied To Davis.  But Davis Believed Ken
If you look at the dynamics of what went on here, it's not hard to take an educated guess.  Harold Batson also made sexual advances and threats towards Ken.  Batson said he (Batson) was leading people to hell and that he wanted to take people to the deepest part of hell.  Ken did what he was supposed to do and reported Batson to Ashmore; but smAshmore told Ken, "I wish you would just leave."  We know that thinking for yourself is completely against the ntcc rules;  but you have to wonder why Ashmore would move these perverts around and protect them.  This is how bad it got:  When Davis caught wind of what was going on, he confronted Ashmore about what Ken had told him; and Ashmore lied to Davis, denying what Ken had told him.  But Davis knew better.  Davis believed Ken was telling the truth about Batson leading people to hell and didn't believe Ashmore. Davis even told Ashmore this:  "Bro. MacPherson has never lied to me."  Then Davis got Batson down to the office and Batson confirmed that he had indeed told Ken that Batson was leading people to hell and that Batson was a homosexual.  As a result Batson got kicked out of the church by Davis, who announced that night in church that Batson was a homosexual who was leading people to hell.

Now you have to break ntcc rules again and think and wonder:  Why was Ashmore trying to protect these perverts? Did Davis suspect that Ashmore was involved with Batson and Peters?  It didn't take Ashmore very long to leave the ntcc after Davis was reported as dead.  Perhaps Davis gave Kekel the lowdown on James Ross Ashmore; and JRA was given an ultimatum by Kekel.  Of course that's all supposition; but if you connect the dots between Ashmore, Hummel, Broadnax, Rudy, Batson and Peters, you would have to be naive and gullible to think that nothing was happening between them.  The proverb about Birds of A Feather Flock Together comes to mind.

We also know that people will vehemently disagree and try to excuse these poor ntcc leaders.  Well guess what?  How many times did Davis openly from behind the pulpit accuse people of being homosexuals?  He would preach, "If so and so was alone at a sister's house and didn't have sex with her, he must be a homosexual."  Sound familiar?  You know you have heard it yourself.  Maybe there's a reason why Davis was so homophobic.  He certainly didn't mind being around the alleged bi-sexual rapist Johnny Jordan, though; did he?  No, Davis made that rape of 14 year old Lisa Norton possible by match-making Jordan with Pam, Lisa's 16 year old sister.  And why?  Allegedly Davis was slipping in Jordan's front door while Johnny was at work for ntcc; during this time alone with Jordan's teen wife, Pam, Davis would allegedly molest Pam and then pay her hush money.  She told us she had so much money at times she would have more than Johnny brought home from work.  She also said that others sisters used to wonder how she could afford the nice things she had.  Wouldn't they have been shocked to find out!

Olson is the ntcc Hype Man Building Up The Illusion
What a sick bunch of deviants is running the ntcc.  And they all cover for one another.  Just look at how Olson would indoctrinate people to blindly accept whatever Davis said as if it were gospel. Olson would blather on, saying, "If Pastor Davis says the sky is green, the sky IS green!"  Ken once wrote a letter to Olson telling him:

"If you think the sky is green, just because Davis says the sky is green, You need to get saved.  You are reading a different bible than I am."  Ken let Olson know the simple truth about what is not in the bible. 

We all heard Olson tell that green-sky lie on numerous occasions.  Oh brother!    What a load of nonsense designed to blind people and get them to believe a lie.

Repeating a lie will not make it the truth, even though the crowd accepts it.  If the sky is blue, no matter who calls it green, the sky is still blue and the green sky tale is just a lie.
In The NTCC The Sky is Green if RWD says so.
But that's a lie.  It is cult indoctrination to get you to accept the pastor's word AS IF it were the gospel truth.
Don't be deceived.

Davis Did Have A TV in His House - While He Preached Against TV
Talking to Ken, he revealed other secrets that were verified by a second witness. We heard from Julie St. Clair that Davis had a TV in his house.  She saw it and got abused for mentioning it to her 'parents' Ralph and Joan. Others came on the blog and said, I've cleaned Davis' house and never saw a TV.  Well, maybe they were speaking about one of Davis' other houses, since he has owned so many.  All we know is what Julie shared and what Ken shared with us that Davis had him come over to his house one time; and Ken followed the dog into the house and saw a TV.  Davis tried to make an excuse for it and told Ken that  TVs were not allowed in the churches or Servicemen's Homes because ministers didn't need to spend their time watching TV, but rather reading and praying and soul winning.  Davis went on to say that he would keep people informed as to what was going on in the world.  What a load of baloney.  Davis is quite simply a HYPOCRITE who says one thing but does another.

"She's Mine! Stay Away!" Teenie Bopper Tanya is Owned by Mike Kekel
(He said.)
Also there was some confusion as to how old Tanya actually was when she started dating Mike. Her age was originally stated as 12 or 13 and then that changed to 15 or 16.  Ken said that Kekel had a picture of Tanya that he carried around in his wallet and he showed it to him in 1979, and told him and other brothers not to talk to her because she was going to marry him.  This tells you that Tanya was somewhere around 14 years old when Kekel was claiming her as his own; and that is only if she is telling the truth about her age.  Do you think it would be beyond Tanya Kekel to lie about her age?  Who's going to verify it?  Tanya is known and proven to be a liar by the online form that allegedly she filled out to find info on her Filipino birth mother.  Ken said Tanya Davis (now kekel) looked like she was about 11 or 12 years old in the picture that Mike showed him.  I'm sure Mike wouldn't want the world to know that he was dating and planning to marry to a pre-teen, calling her "mine", when he is nine years older than she is.  Yuck.  What a perv!

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Adoption Reunion Registry Search Form As Filled Out By Tanya Kekel (her e-mail address dakake is listed in the contact info).
Let's play count the Lies.  How many lies can you count?  Tanya's Maiden Name Kekel? No. Her maiden adopted name was davis. Tanya's religion Unknown?  Her occupation Housewife?  Occupation of her Birth mother Ambassador? It begs the question, When was she really born?

Our opinion is that the kekels are liars, people.  Look at their mansions and their richer than rich lifestyles.  Mike didn't obtain all that wealth through investments.  If he tells you that, he'll tell you anything.  If you believe that, you'll believe anything.   But we don't trust them.  Ken also said that he never once trusted Ashmore; and so Ken refused to shake Ashmore's hand the entire time Ken was in the ntcc.

There were a number of other things that really impressed us about Bro Ken as we talked on the phone.  He is a Christian; he was a pastor; he still ministers through his words of encouragement writings; and he has a very good heart.  He told us that in spite of what Johnny did to him, he forgives Jordan and says that Johnny needed help but never got it.  Johnny had shared with Ken some of the hell Jordan had gone through; but Jordan never received any help, especially in the ntcc.  It takes quite a heart to forgive someone that has attacked you; and yet Ken has definitely done that.  Brother Ken also has a son that he has raised and protected; and Ken is a well respected leader in his church.  He maintained great integrity in the face of hatred and stood for what was right while so-called ntcc leaders went about to destroy him in order to cover their own sin and to present a facade of holiness Christianity to the world.  Ken went through it all and suffered all the things a victim of severe abuse has suffered but has survived it all with dignity and honor.

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45 comments:

Unknown said...

I happen to be "neighbors" with this so called CHURCH... In Graham Washington, we have a farm that is surrounded by these CRAZY people. Just two days ago (1/27/2015) our beloved Sow due to deliver her 14 babies was brutally murdered by two of the men of this church. While my children were frantic to find their beloved Sow she was shot just feet from where my sister asked them to wait. I am utterly disgusted that these so called CHRISTIANS have such a flagrent disreguard for life in all forms! I see them as Murderers and child rapists!

Deb Arnold Graham WA 98338

Don and Ange said...

Dear Debra,

We are sorry for your loss of your sow and stunned that these men would recklessly endanger your children, as it seems has happened as we understand your comment.

Our opinion of this group (NTCC) is that they encourage people to disregard the law, using God as an excuse for such behavior.

We hope you can receive some sort of amends or restitution for the loss of your sow and her piglets.

As far as what we believe to be their endangering children, we have no words! It's unimaginable.

Perhaps you might consider contacting local news outlets in order to warn others of this unstable behavior in their own backyards.

Anonymous said...

Call the police on them. Get the authorities involved right away.

They hate anytime their true identity is exposed to light. I remember seeing the 'brothers', most of them who worked for Davis, be really violent with neighborhood cats. I don't in any way value animals lives about humans, but animal cruelty shows there is some disturbing thoughts and behavior going on.

Anonymous said...

Call the police on them. Get the authorities involved right away.

They hate anytime their true identity is exposed to light. I remember seeing the 'brothers', most of them who worked for Davis, be really violent with neighborhood cats. I don't in any way value animals lives about humans, but animal cruelty shows there is some disturbing thoughts and behavior going on.

Anonymous said...

I remember vividly many years ago when the ashmores visited, we were having a prayer meeting and Ashmore was walking around praying and I heard him say: I rebuke the spirit of homosexuality!
I remember thinking, why is he praying like that?

Lisa Norton said...

I am proud of all of you that have left I know the world seems so cold and you feel like your alone but your not. Trust me we are here for you. I am so upset about Ken and Ashmore. You guys have gone through a lot. MI am just in shock. I thought this was only happening to me I know when you say you wanted to die I remeber praying that same prayer

Lisa. Norton said...

I just want you to realize all Of those years you where made into there little toy soldiers. So it's going to take a lot of counseling to Emote the horrible things they have taught you. A lot of people including myself the scary part is when your first leave . Who can you trust and those circle of friends they gave you is gone. But in do time I promise you life will be better. But for now you have to deal with the crap they taught you Its ok just ask God to help You.

Don and Ange said...

Happy Superbowl Sunday!!! To those who are no longer in the cult, enjoy your day and don't feel guilty. Watching three hours of football is not going to condemn your soul to an eternity in the lake of fire.

For those of you who are in the ntcc, sorry that you have to go soul winning and to Sunday Cult Service. I know that you think that you are doing God's work but in reality, less than one percent of you will even be with the ntcc in 10 years, because they are so terrible at keeping people 'saved'. Many of you ntcc'rs will be watching the pregame festivities at the recreation centers on post, Walmart Electronics section and possibly now that you've accepted compromise, on your own TV's.

We don't judge you for it but we do feel pity towards you for the phoniness that you believe is Christianity. Your blow hard preachers are going to get up in front of their congregations and tell you how much greater God is than a bunch of grown men throwing a pigskin around. Many of them are all ready living in much worse sins, than football, but as long as they can string along a few brain washed suckers to pay their tithe and give in offerings, they keep the facade going.

We hope in spite of all the teachings of the ntcc, some of you might see through their false doctrines and find your way out. We have a TV in our house and if there ever was a good day to watch football, today is that day. We are Broncos fans, and our team has been eliminated. We have chosen the Sea Buzzards, oops, I meant to say Sea Hawks to win it all. Hope you all enjoy your lives today, weather you are watching football or singing "God's not Dead, He's still Alive" for the 500 millionth time. My latest memories of that song were when we sung it at Newport News, VA and we were about as dead as a church can get. Nobody was happy with the exception of a few forced smiles, but it was all routine, because it was no longer real to any of us. Hopefully some of you ntcc'rs still have a little life in you. Enjoy it, because most of your preachers are dead and dried up. Kekel and Kinson are spiritually dead, no matter how many doors they make you knock on. Davis is gone, Ashmore is gone and God left a long time before they did.

Don and Ange said...

Thank you Lisa for your comments. We also are glad that Brother Ken was willing to come forward and share what he went through. That's a hard thing to do, but what it does is it shows a pattern of corruption within the leadership of the ntcc. For years the ntcc has blasted other churches and anyone who attends them for being compromisers and living in sin. They would preach hell fire and brimstone, but they were the worst offenders. The victims of severe abuse have come forward and shared their testimonies, and through their words have revealed the true nature of Davis, Ashmore, Kekel and Olson. The ntcc is an absolute disgrace.

I will also say, for everyone that has been brave enough to share what they went through there are many who never will because it just hurts too much for them to relive it. We don't think any less of them, but we will never refrain from sharing what we know about the ntcc leadership. They are a bunch of sick money grubbing liars that use people for whatever they can use them for. If you follow these hypocrites you are nothing more than a mindless, brainwashed sucker. We've stood where you stand and we are not making fun of you, nor do we think we are better than you. I thank God that He saw fit to give me the presence of mind to escape when I could. Many will never escape, because they refuse to believe that the ntcc is a corrupt cult that harbors thieves, liars, pedophiles, adulterers, fornicators, and spiritual murderers, while telling you what you can and can not wear, who you can and can not talk to, who you can and can not have over to your own house, etc... You are supposed to be grown adults, Children of the King, but you are treated like slaves and not allowed to think for yourselves or make common adult decisions on your own.

But we are the evil ones for pointing this stuff out. According to many in the ntcc, we are supposedly hell bound and lost forever because we dare to echo the hundreds of testimonies of people who have been used and abused by the ntcc hierarchy. Two or three witnesses are what the ntcc requires. We have hundreds, but most of you ntcc'rs have hardened your hearts and can't see through the lies and discord that surrounds you. You think Ashmore just folds up his tent and leaves after four decades of dedicated servitude to Davis? Open your eyes people and see the corruption that surrounds you. Stop believing lies and wake up. Don't waste another day of your lives in the ntcc. Ditch the religious hypocrites but hang on to God. You will be surprised how real He can be when you are allowed to think and live for yourselves.

Anonymous said...

I want to thank all those that have read my story, and for being
supportive and for those that are in and out of NTCC that are negative towards me. I can not change the past and neither would I want to. All I can do is forgive, the life lessons that
God lets us go through prepares us
for the work He has chose for us to do. In my time as a Minister
it has taught me to treat all people dignity and respect, something I did not learn at NTCC from the leadership. and I'm thankful for Don N Ange and what they are doing with there blog in letting people know the truth.

Anonymous said...

John Sheera is the assistant prosecutor for pierce county Washington, and has heard some of the crimes of these people. Maybe the can do ballistics, and find out who killed your sow.

jsheera@co.pierce.wa.us
253.798.6511

Don and Ange said...

Bro. Ken, You are light years ahead of the ntcc leadership when it comes to treating people with dignity and respect. In fact, I would say on a scale of 1-10 that the ntcc leadership would get a 1 on how they treat people. Comparing how they treat people to how the bible says that they are to treat people, is scary for them. When you think about it, there are two things that Jesus emphasized the most and they are to love God with all your heart and to love others as yourself.

It's hard to find real love among people that are so hungry for money and power. Davis created a culture of greed and envy in the ntcc and the current leadership has been carried a long way away from God because they love money more than people. You want to see them get really mad? Question them about their riches and their lavish lifestyle. Ask where they get their money and see how indignant they get. They think nothing of collecting money from the people who are struggling to get by while they spend the tithe dollars on new upgrades to their mansions and new cars. They don't care who the local preachers run off, as long as the cash flow keeps streaming into their fat wallets. They don't care who gets destroyed and they don't care who leaves. They don't care who dies and goes to hell and they don't care who ends up homeless or destitute. Just keep the rivers of money flowing into Graham, Washington and everything will be alright. They'll give you a pat on the back and a Scooby snack and ignore your sins and they won't even give a thought or a prayer to those you hurt. It's as if there were no God in heaven that sees what they have done.

There are so many lives that they have broken and none of them are willing to lift a finger to help put the pieces back together. Those in the X-er community that still believe in God, we are the ones that have to help clean up the mess that the ntcc has made. We have to help these broken ones understand that God still cares and loves them in spite of what the ntcc has done to them. Believe it or not that is the biggest struggle for someone who has been hurt by the ntcc and it's so called pastors. They have the hardest time believing that they could ever be forgiven.

Meanwhile the ones that hurt them are all living high on the hog talking about the X-ers like we are the ones that caused all the pain and heart ache. They spew out curses of judgement against us because our tithe dollars no longer flow into their bank accounts. Their kingdom is crumbling right now because it wasn't built on the Rock Christ Jesus, but it was built upon sinking sand. Don't be afraid of this bunch of hypocrites because their time to eat and drink and be merry is not going to last forever. They might laugh at us now and they might preach against us out of hate because we expose their way of life, but they will not have the last laugh. I can promise you that.

Brother D said...

I knew brother Ken, I knew Ashmore, Rodriguez, Davis, Kekel, but did I really? How can you work with people you don't Know. We knew them externally in the flesh, but never in the spirit. I mean outwardly, never in reality. I guess that is the curse of ntcc as all cults. There is a bright side, seemingly, and a dark side. We imagined the best, only to discover the worst of our nightmares. Now we have each other on this blog to comfort. Thank God.

Don and Ange said...

That is very true Brother D. I think one of the more deceptive practices of the ntcc, was to use what was real, to obtain the temporal things. The preached Christ Crucified and they still do. As long as they do that, people will genuinely get saved. When a new Christian begins to put their trust in those who preach the Gospel, they are not ready for the lies and the twisted scriptures that are mixed in with what is supposed to be real. So many preachers used to speak about the sacrifice of Davis in the early years. I would really like to know more about these early years, when Davis supposedly lived in his car and had to pray facing the opposite direction because of the holes in his shoes.

Bro. D. I know you were there in the earlier years of his New Testament Christian Church of God years. Was he making those sacrifices back then? Ever since I knew him in 83 all I ever heard was that if you sacrifice like Davis did, God will Bless you. I was one of those who believed in having nothing or very little for myself and giving huge gobs of money to the church. Those prophesies and promises of financial blessings never came. I wasn't really wanting the monetary blessings as much as the spiritual blessings but it seemed like there was a famine of any kind of blessings in the ntcc except the ones that enabled those in high places to get filthy rich. When I hear that Tanya was complaining because she couldn't store as many of her pairs of shoes in the new mansions walk in closet, I wondered, "What is really important to these people"?

I remember Verna one day in front of Davis told me that I should be a millionaire by now, having been in the Army over 12 years and making E-6 pay. Then Davis began to further pry and ask me how much money I was saving. I wish I knew back then where the $1200.00 to $2,000.00 per year that I was pledging to World Missions was going. When you read testimonies of missionaries rejoicing because they were able to rent a room the size of most people's bathrooms with a toilet that had no seat to sit on, or another long time preacher rejoicing that his congregation was able to 'bless' the church by adding a home made pew to the tabernacle, you wonder where that money really goes. Probably the same place that the zeroed out escrow account money goes.

I was never in for the loaves and the fishes, thank God, because if I was, I would have starved. Our money helped secure RWD and Kekel a future in the Seattle area Real Estate Market. As a former X-er who used to hang around the Davises a lot recently told us, they own a lot more real estate than you would ever imagine. In Arkansas where Verna is from and in North Carolina where Davis is from they reportedly own millions in real estate. All that will end up belonging to the Kekels who have worked so hard for the Lawd over the years, and Gawd wants to bless them for their continued dedication. Those money grubbing hypocrites are laughing in the face at every tithe dollar that has ever been given to the work of the Lard.

Don and Ange said...

Those of you who are still in the Organization and your churches finances are still feeding the ntcc leadership through an umbilical cord that reaches around the world many times, have you ever stopped to think about where the money goes? Have you ever seen it being spent? I know they have made improvements to the Campground and that they are building more dorms for their Brainwashing facilities in Graham. They'll continue to pay their building crew just enough money to keep them poor, while they build on the gifted land that was given back and forth from Davis to Kekel. They will send out hype men (Board Members) in Rivival RVs to influence Servicemen to follow the call of Gawd, and become a licensed brainwasher. But when do they ever give back to the ones that poured everything they had into the work of God.

Take up an offering, Davis once said To MDR who found out that there was $275,000.00 sitting in the escrow at the bank in Killeen, TX. How do you attend bible school in Graham Washington and look at the mansions and the cars they drive every day without feeling like a total and complete brain washed sucker? The students in Graham are eating Ramen and working like a bunch of log wood slaves (or niggers as Davis would say). Do you think that any of these creeps cares about you in the least bit? They are living like kings under your nose.

As more and more X-ers are sharing the true nature of the ntcc leadership, the unlearned, uneducated, brainwashed masses of the ntcc, have to become more and more ignorant to continue following the ntcc leadership. They basically have to completely turn off their brains. Of course if you believe Mike and Phil, it's the X-ers that are of the devil. They are just jealous and bitter. Doesn't that story line get old?

Anonymous said...

Reverend Ken, thank you for your testimony, and for our fellowship, and thank you for contacting me after nearly 36 years! Wow, I was in the class the night Rdub pointed you out in class, and told all of the students in BS, that you wanted to be a homo, and you wanted the world. Immediately, we shunned you you were excommunicated, and you left in disgrace. I am truly sorry, that I turned my back on you. I am so sorry. We were so gullible, so brain washed, we thought, and were taught that these people loved us, and were Gods leaders, that we had to reverence, and obey, if we were going to serve God, and go to heaven. How foolish I was, to believe their lies! We abandoned you, when we should have been there for you. What hypocrisy, what criminal conduct. You are a real man of God, brother Ken, and I count it a privilege to know you now. From a faithful friend.

Brother D said...

You asked if RW was sacrificing from the early days of NTCC...it is debatable.
... From the beginnings RW was always buying and remodeling, then selling properties. I guess today its called flipping. I always wondered who owned the "dorms" we were required to live in, back in good old hot miserable St Louis. He bought and sold on contract- some really bad shaped properties. They wouldn't pass code. I bought the one on Gasconade that they Wrights had also owned. Anyway RW was more business man than anything. "How To Get Rich using OPM" etc... other peoples money. I've heard of the deplorable conditions of the Dorm on Eiler St and elsewhere.
We were innocent and dumb sheeple. He used this to his advantage. There was a lot of money collected fro missions that did not exist. Money was raised to buy the first few acres in Graham. You have to give it to them -they are shrewd.

Don and Ange said...

Anonymous said:

"How foolish I was, to believe their lies! We abandoned you, when we should have been there for you."

DNA said:

That's the way it was and always will be in the ntcc. You are either with them or against them. If you do not follow in the footsteps of the ntcc leadership, you will be spiritually assassinated like Ken and so many others. God forbid that you had any dirt on them and started to talk to others. You would be blasted from the pulpit, your character would be assassinated and eventually you would be kicked out thinking that you were lost forever. The only good that comes from this is that once they are done with you and have no more use for you, they wash their hands and act like you are the scourge of the world.

If this has happened to any of our readers, don't feel cast down and lost forever. You are now free and I can promise you that God doesn't feel the same way about you that perverts like Davis and Kekel feel about you. They are the ones that should have been or should still be ashamed. You might feel like there is no hope but there is always hope. You have a better chance now at real salvation than you ever did when you were surrounded by religious money hungry hypocrites. If you have been discarded by the ntcc, it is a good thing. You now have a fighting chance. Your life is now in your hands and Gods, not some phony, bible toting, whore mongering, sleeze bag that calls himself a preacher. You don't have to let some 25 year old with a 2 year brain washing degree tell you who you can't talk to, where you can't go, who you can't call, who can visit your house.

Rejoice and be exceeding glad. It's party time if you are out of the ntcc. I'm not talking about anything bad, but now that you are no longer under your control, you don't have to believe their lies about your soul. Your soul belongs to you now. You can give it to God or do whatever you want with it, but at least it doesn't belong to them anymore. They can't drag you down anymore if you are not around them. You don't have to walk around like your Drawers are three sizes too tight. No more walking on egg shells. Getting away from those hypocrites was the most important thing you can do to secure your freedom, and I would encourage anyone to seek God once again without some phony or impostor giving you bad information.

Don and Ange said...

Anonymous, don't ever blame yourself for what happened to others in the cult. We all could have helped others if we only knew we were brainwashed. That's how cults work. People live in fear hoping that their own sins or short coming will not be exposed. The "This is I" paper was just a way for the cult leaders to pry into someone's personal life so they could manipulate them or use their own past against them if they ever got the goods on them. We all lived under the same cloud of judgment and fear. It doesn't matter how hard you tried to please them, they were never satisfied and you could never do enough to enter into their good graces.

Anonymous said...

Deb, please DO get the authorities involved. NTCC leadership has a long, long history of teaching that man has full authority over animals. Killing animals especially dogs was done by one pastor-Mike Marshall when I was in the group in the late '80's. His warped ideas came straight from the leadership.

Farm Video said...

Debra,

Is this your farm in this video?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5qcSRskpyw

Maurice said...

Wow, so sad, and even sadder yet, is the fact that there has been and still is so much corruption inside of ntcc, so sad, many lives, and families destroyed because of the trust and confident that we all once had in ntcc as believers in Christ, we did not ask to be mislead or taken advantage of by ntcc or any phony, fake, non-denomination. However, they used us, abused us, lied to us, mislead us, deceived us, about there true nature.

Anonymous said...

Bro Ken Macpherson The first time I told my testimony to my church was not easy, I did not name names. But here I have named names gave time lines and so forth, these people can come forth and defend themselves, but I don't think that will happen. Now the Ashmores have left NTCC now all they can say through Mrs. Ashmore after berating and belittling and putting people down for 40 years the past is the past put it behind us, you would think after being in scripture for 40 years she would not be in error of them. You just can't walk away and pretend none of what you did, did not happen. I believe the Bible says when you do a brother or sister wrong your to make it right. Not run away.

Upon their exit they had a great
opportunity to apologize to all the people they hurt, but instead they asked people to forget, to me these are people that are doomed to repeat their past transgressions.

I would like to point out to people that nothing I have said has been Anonymous because I had nothing to hide.

Anonymous said...

I lived in Graham for 10 years, it was because we wanted to live "close to the church". One of the biggest mistakes we ever made. I remember the unfriendliness of people because I looked like all the other "Christian women from NTCC" Not knowing why, after I left I figured it out, all the people in Graham know about the "church behind the fence. Probably doesn't help property values, I know this is topic but just an observation. Now they are killing the animals that are in the surrounding areas of the church ground, so sad. But, not surprising.

Vic Johanson said...

I remember Ken well--he was the very next student to arrive at NTCC after I did. RW was preaching right before he left and said he was "counseling" a man and asked him "are you a homosexual?" He claimed the reply was "no, but I want to be." Next thing we knew, Ken was gone. Phil Kinson and I ran into him at KMart once afterward, and he basically fled from us. We chalked it up to "conviction," but it was more likely a manifestation of psychological and emotional trauma. I corresponded briefly with Ken about six years ago, and he mentioned the Batson incident then. We really had no clue about what all was going on behind the scenes then; RW kept an iron grip on information control.

Don and Ange said...

Brother Ken said:

"The first time I told my testimony to my church was not easy, I did not name names. But here I have named names gave time lines and so forth, these people can come forth and defend themselves, but I don't think that will happen."

DNA said:

They were never afraid or shy about calling people out by name. Many of the ntcc pastors would stick their fingers out and point them at people during service while they blasted them for various sins. Most of them learned this from Davis I'm sure. But they will never be transparent and they will not confront many of these issues that they have been on the wrong side of for so many years.

We are glad that you named names because much of what they did was in secret and it didn't hurt them one bit to destroy you, your testimony, you walk with God or your joy in Christ, but they have done this many times to many people, and you will not hear a peep from any of them. In fact many of them will find themselves on the side of the ntcc, against the victims and those who were run off without a cause.

People now days think that it is wrong to speak out and mention names. They will say you are just bitter and mean spirited. Whatever. They got pleasure out of having that kind of power over people. Davis ran the organization like a shrewd business man and he milked it for every penny he could while he was alive. It was never about souls or real love for the brethren. It's always been about money and numbers.

Kekel would rather have all this go away and it probably would if people would stop sharing what they went through. You can't get an honest answer out of Kekel or any of them because if they were honest they would have to come clean about their own involvement. They haven't done that and I doubt they ever will.

We hope that others will expose this cult and it's figureheads. There are many out there that are still effected by what they went through. You just can't forget the stuff that was unnecessary and cruel. It never goes away, but there is a feeling of satisfaction when you have made peace with God and are not afraid to warn others about these deceptive crooks.

Anonymous said...

My wife and I were at the Bible School
located at Holly Hills in 1986 when
Brother Macpherson was there. We remember the night that Reverend Davis
announced from the pulpit that Harold Batson was asked to remove himself from
church,and for say he himself was leading people "to hell".

On numerous occasions, both during class and outside of class, witnessed the gross mistreatment of Brother Macpherson by Reverend Ashmore. I recall one particular Sunday evening
that Reverend Ashmore told Brother Macpherson get a hair cut by tomorrow or do not come Back to Bible School.
This was unfair of Reverend Ashmore because he told him to go to his Barber, knowing that this Barber was closed on Monday's. I know this because several Brothers of the Bible School went to this particular Barber. The next day, Brother Macpherson did indeed come to class with his hair cut. This angered Reverend Ashmore and the harsh treatment towards Brother Macpherson
continued to take place until Brother Macpherson removed himself from the Bible School about a year later.

Anonymous said...

I too witness the harsh treatment of J. Ashmore to Brother Ken. Of course in my brainwash state of mind I didn't realize this was wrong. I also witness J. Ashmore harsh treatment of Julie St.Clair after he prayed for her crippled hand and she still had trouble with it.

J. Ashmore seem to enjoyed harshly treating people and in some cases seem to do it when he felt that others might make him look bad. What he did to people was so wrong. Maybe Bro. Ken coming forward will help others that have been hurt by J. Ashmore realize they didn't deserve how he treatment them and it wasn't their fault.

Anonymous said...

I would like to point out that it was said that Harold Batson, was to remove himself from church for being a homosexual and that he had stated he was "leading people to hell". When I think back and see all that Brother Ken went through at the hands of the leadership of NTCC in the name of Christianity, how could we be so blind? How does one truly say sorry to him and all the other victims? of Reverend Ashmore. We hung on every ward of his as if it were gospel. talk about the blind leading the blind.

Don and Ange said...

I watched a couple episodes of the Amish Mafia yesterday, and I've come to the conclusion that the more isolated a group is from society, the more sins that group is trying to hide. The ntcc is very isolated from society. Most people in the ntcc have very little contact with the outside world and for a long time had very little access to media. People were convinced to shun their 'sinner' families and everyone else that might have been important to them. Holiness was just a disguise to keep people thinking about their outward appearance. When people see a group of so called 'holiness' Christians, they tend to believe that if they dress like this how could they possibly be involved with adultery, fornication, homosexuality or child molestation/rape?

I am convinced more than ever that it's all just a big time scam and facade. The people who participate in the so called holiness movement start out thinking that it's the right thing to do. If you look at the leaders of organizations such as the Amish, the higher their position in the church, the more indignant they are when questioned about their motives and the more outright rude and hateful they are.

One guy wanted to bring a woman into the Amish cult, and took her before the bishop, which is the highest position in each locality, and the Bishop was a lot like Davis. He was totally unconcerned about the soul of the woman, but rather that she didn't bring any embarrassment or 'unnecessary' attention to the church, and asked the man if he would be responsible for keeping her in her place, before allowing her to attend church. The bishops have total control over relationships and can approve or disapprove who gets married or who does not.

I've heard how nice the Amish people are and so many will tell you how great they are. I'll tell you this, there is so much evil in their communities that they would turn Mr. Roger's neighborhood into Sodom and Gomorrah in a couple of days if they were given the keys to the place.

Don't let the ntcc fool you. They are now compromising their standards that they kept for so long, but this doesn't mean that they are going to be any less controlling or destructive. The leadership is totally corrupt, so unless you plan on cutting off the head, don't be surprised if they continue their destructive patterns. Christianity is not the focus in the ntcc, it is just a mere disguise to hide the sins of it's leaders.

Maurice said...

Ntcc seems to have been corrupt for a along time, far longer than any of us ever knew of, with homosexual preachers, effeminate pastors, money hungry leaders, adulterer leaders, pedophilia minsters. The red flags was probably there, but in our zeal to server the Lord, some if not all of us was blind to the truth of ntcc.

Anonymous said...

My name is Eric Roofener and I use to go to NTCC from 85-98 in Tacoma and Portland. I remember all the people you have mentioned. Its a shame about all this. It bothers me about the cult like actions because I thought I was smarter. I definitely agree with the control and the guilt tripping and practically everything else. There are enough complaints and similarities in the complaints from a wide variety and cross section of people that it cant be written off. Im glad I never went to Bible School there, instead I ran to Germany. I remember always having to look a certain way, talk a certain way, dress a certain way and if you didnt people looked down on you. I will say that it wasn't always like that in Rev Tiemans and Taylors church in Portland. There was not a lot of freedom or liberality in that church. It was very legalistic. The church Im in today is not so. If someone comes in with piercing and tattoos we dont look down on them we welcome them, ask where they got their ink done and try to model Christ. The pastor there always tells us to go out and be Jesus to somebody. Today I am blessed to attend church with cadre members of the New Tribes Missions here in Lake of the Ozarks. What I see in them is so much different than what I saw in NTCC. In NTCC I would be afraid to do a lot of things I do today. I was ignorant and thought I was doing things according to the bible. I just never felt good enough no matter what I did and when I did do well it was because someone in leadership praised me for something etc. I was codependent on their approval. I thought if they were happy God must be happy. God did manage to show me things and make himself known to me while at NTCC but that speaks about him not them. Im still a lil messed up to learn all this about NTCC because I thought they were doing right. Today I have a beautiful 15 yr old daughter who is a 2nd degree black belt, wears pants and has seen Ozzy in concert and she loves her church and her youth group. I have taught her to question the question and not assume the question is valid and to not just blindly accept authority. She and I wouldnt be welcome in NTCC today. We are far from where we need to be but our church leaders dont beat us up over it. They just keep loving on us. I wish churches and the people who run them would stop hurting people and making God look bad. I dont know how anyone could stay in an organization that is being accused of the things NTCC is being accused of.Anyway....glad to finally discover it wasnt just me who felt the way I felt but others did as well. Oh ya, Rev Kekel, your wife never really was all that. Ive seen Amish and Mennonite girls look better.

Anonymous said...

J.R. Ashmore always seem to have a gay way about him. Do you know if he has ever been involved in a gay way? If he has it would explain some things I have witnessed and heard from others.

Don and Ange said...

Maurice said...

"Ntcc seems to have been corrupt for a along time, far longer than any of us ever knew of, with homosexual preachers, effeminate pastors, money hungry leaders, adulterer leaders, pedophilia minsters."

DNA said:

That's very true Maurice. Aside from the homosexual and effeminate pastors, the money hungry leaders and adulterous pedophilia ministers, there has always been a huge lack of love in this cult. Sure they will love bomb you when you first come out to church. They will feed you home cooked meals and spend time getting to know you. Then they will introduce their rules for fools, and that is where they throw the ball in your court and say "Obey all of our ridiculous rules or leave". They will lift up the ones that play along and they will bash the ones that have trouble believing that they are not strong enough in the Lord to miss one bible study or church service. Oh they'll no doubt throw scriptures at you, like: "Forsake not the assembling of ourselves together"... But if you are trying to win people to God and they are busy running them off, how is that fellowship? Don't bring that person to church, he or she has mental issues or they are handicapped or they are not making any money to contribute. That's not love, or fellowship. That's a bunch of non-Christian Huckleberries lying to you so you will continue to attend and give them your money.

Don and Ange said...

Every once in a while a comment will be posted that you just have to carry forward from another thread.

Anonymous said:

"Anonymous said...

I never heard anything like this. I went to church with a mixed couple and they weren't chastised, even went to bible college. Not sure what became of them."

DNA said:

Not sure what became of them, hey? Maybe their name was Kelly and Cherlynn Merz. Ever hear of them? They are a mixed couple that were never allowed to get married. Davis told their Pastor back when they wanted to get married that they would be a hindrance to the ministry, so they went and got married at a different church. Eventually the Merz yielded to the pressure that everyone goes through to attend ntcc bible school. Initially they had been discouraged because they were a 'mixed couple', but we believe when Davis found out they had money because they were good at flipping real estate, they ended up in Washington. Not only did they attend Bible School but they stayed their so Davis could continue to collect tithe checks from their multiple rental properties (we know of four separate 4-plex buildings that they rented out probably exclusively to ntcc ministers and bible school students).

It's our belief that multiple ntcc false doctrines and ministerial pressures drove this couple apart. After they divorced the man, Kelly, murdered a female that was living with him. Kelly is currently incarcerated serving a 25 year sentence.

Our understanding is that Cherlynn Merz still owns and rents real estate properties to the ntcc, but that Kelly had been working as a pizza delivery man and performed maintenance on the 4 plex apartments that his X-wife owns.

We believe that if the ntcc was a healthy and normal church that the pressure that was placed upon Kelly Merz would not have driven him to divorce his wife and murder a woman. This is another example of false doctrine contributing to the destruction what many considered to be a decent couple in the ntcc.

Don and Ange said...

I have found that many former ntcc'rs are easily swayed to believe just about anything. There is a doctrine out there called 119 ministries, which is also referred to as the Hebrew roots movement. I had a friend who was once in the ntcc, ask me to look in to it and I did a Google search and found it to be a cult. They believe that there is a need to re-translate the bible and they pick and choose which old testament sacraments that they want to carry forward into the New Testament. They no longer believe that Jesus is the Savior, but you now have to call him Yeshua. They also like to keep the Old Testament feasts. They use 'love bombing' to get people to join and they have phrases that they teach that lure people in. You must also call the bible the 'torah' which is basically the law of Moses, which nobody was ever able to keep.

Most of you know this is wrong just because of what you learned in the ntcc. The ntcc is a Cult just like the Hebrew Roots Movement but it uses different false doctrines. One of the similarities in the two cults is that many of the people that get tangled up in them are sincere people with a desire to live for God. In spite of what many of us think or know to be true, there is a growing number of X-members who have become part of this new cult.

People seem to want doctrine that requires them to shut off their own brains and allow others to do their thinking for them. It's too much work to take the simple path that requires love and faith through grace. My question to many of our readers is that do you think Ashmore has all the answers? I don't care if everyone in the ntcc decides to jump off of the ntcc cliff to fall into Ashmore's new doctrine of not so judgmental preaching, or whatever it is. It reminds me of so many scriptures. Eph 4:14 "Being carried about with every wind of doctrine"..."whereby they lie in wait to deceive". Gal 1:6 "I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:" And many others of this nature that were written so that we wouldn't place ourselves into bondage to false doctrines of men.

I can only say you can have what you always wanted in God and in Christ without giving yourselves over to a bunch of man made liars who are only interested in exploiting you for what they can get out of you, and using you to win people to their cause, which is not the cause of Christ.

Maurice said...

During the late seventies, and early eighties ntcc conducted themselves as if they were elite to all other churches, with there holier than thou, and there ten percent tithe or hell doctrine. However, there sins soon found them out. The pay us ten percent or go hell doctrine, was like having a gun being held to your head, there was no love in ntcc, except for the love of money. Which there leaders did get rich from others.

Maurice said...

Ntcc cared nothing at all about your financial situation, it was pay ten percent tithe or go to hell, no if, and or but. Pay us/god our ten percent first and then take care of your own financial situation. Which is how I explain ntcc to others who have never been to an ntcc church.

Don and Ange said...

Isn't it something that they could preach tithe or hell doctrine, but they were not willing to help a brother get home when they were done using him. All he wanted was a few lousy bucks to catch a greyhound bus home, but they wouldn't help him. That's exactly how they are. Shameless. They will guilt trip you into giving them a large portion of your money every week and then they will leave you high and dry when you are no longer of any service to them. The ntcc are a bunch of heartless scoundrels. All of you, Kekel, Olson, Tanya, Johnson, Jones and Ashmore. What a bunch of money grubbing buzzard beaked worthless and sorry excuse you all are. I've seen more human decency shown to stray dogs at the animal shelter. You people are without heart, dried up in your spirits and worthless to humanity. While you live in excess and enjoy your rich life styles, you laugh at the suffering and mock those who made you what you are. You've extracted money from the poor so you can live like Kings as if there were no eyes to see you wickedness or no judge to execute judgment upon you. A bunch of luke warm money grubbing hypocrites is what you are. Blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth. Read the Beattitudes and wonder that there is no spot for you in heaven because you have created the poor and made yourselves fat on their suffering.

Anonymous said...

I've read on other threads (factnet) I believe that WOPP and this church are very similar.

How is it they have a packed church? What is the difference between the two.

Both are controlling and legalistic but NTCC seems to never get a church to amount to more than 20-30 people that are faithful.

Maurice said...

Speaking of Amish Mafia. Its truly amazing how Davis, was able to get away with, extorting ten percent tithe from his followers, like a modern day Al copone, or John Gotti. He even looked and behaved like a mobster. His lieutenants of Ashmore, Olson, Jones, Johnson, Kekel, the St. Clairs and others all carried out his orders like hit men.(PAY US TEN PERCENT OR ELSE). Once again, thank you for this site and for shining a lite on this cult and all cults.

Unknown said...

Because i have posted on this site they have sence filed more complaints and want to take my family to court in March to make me stop talking! I WILL NOT BE SILENCED my first amendment rights will NOT be infringed upon and I will see them in court! I am not afraid to use my name to post my concerns and frustration with this "CHURCH"

Anonymous said...

From Brother Ken
Debra Deppe Counter sue them for the killing of your Sow, and the loss of her 14 babies. and bring your sister as a witness. and if you know of any of your neighbors that have seen NTCC people killing any other animals, for the fun of it that are pet's see if they will go and be a witness for you also

Anonymous said...

From Brother Ken
Debra I'm not a fan of any of the leadership of NTCC, and not sure what Ashmore is up to. but if he is getting ministers to follow him like some say they are, and they are in an established work already. these churches or service men's homes can file to be autonomous, they can go to there local prosecuting attorney and state attorney general to recover any money that NTCC took from the local body, money raised by the local body should have stayed in that work and never went to Graham. If there deed to their property is being held by NTCC Graham and the local church is paying the mortgage and they can prove the recorder of deeds will change it over to the local body, and let them put a lien on the property. I thought you Pastors might want to know this in case your church wants to break away from NTCC Graham. Why give up your work if you do not have to, and if you're living right for God. not this fake holiness. this would put a big dent in the money that NTCC Graham controls.

Maurice said...

Bro Ken. ntcc have there properties that they can sell off, if they get in a serious financial situation, Davis made sure of that. Kekels main job is to manage there wealth, create more wealth, and make sure that davis empire continues, which davis in-trusted to his daughter, son-inlaw, and grandson, not to ashmore, Johnson, jones, olson, the st.clairs or others who gave up so much for ntcc.


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