A safe place for Xers to share their stories and heal.
A place to learn what it's really like in the ntcc founded by Rodger Wilson Davis;
and run by his son-in-law, Michael Craig Kekel,
the father of the one vasectomy-rule-exception kid in ntcc, Grant Davison Kekel.
He Loves A House More Than God: Bonco Mansions of kekel (l) and davis (r)
"He loves a house more than God:" *Bonco* Mansions of kekel (l) and davis (r). Meanwhile, on the mission field: ntcc Missionaries to the Philippines "Rev. and Sis. Mackert ... found a place, 9 feet by 14 feet [9'x14'] and one bathroom. It is on the 6th floor and there is no elevator. The last place they had stayed, they had to share a common bathroom with the other tenants! Yikes! This place has their very own private bathroom, although the Rev. shared there is no seat on the throne, and no way to attach one…." from The Devonshire Files Sunday, May 28, 2006 Visit from the Mackerts (5/06). ** Should you know where the money ($$$$$) goes? **
Jesus In The Temple
Matt 21:12 And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves,
Matt 21:13 And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.
Gal. 4:16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?
John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
1 John 4:6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us.
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Saturday, September 8, 2012
Tour NTCC 1 New Testament Christian Churches of America, Inc. Graham, WA: Part 1 "Mom and Pop's Grave Site"
Working Vacation with Diana Taylor's Help
Diana Taylor at the
Cemetery To Pay Respect
to Mom and Pop Gaylord
Recently we took a trip to Washington state to see old friends, and visit some ntcc haunts. It was a business trip in a sense; but it also was a small vacation for us; and we had a great visit with the X-er's that live in this area. Diana Taylor was our gracious hostess with the mostes. ;o) And she drove us all over and updated us on what's been going on in Washington. We cannot thank her enough for her hospitality and showing us a great time while we were visiting!!
Mom and Pop Gaylords' Grave Site
Headstone for Eileen
"Mom" Gaylord
During this trip we got some good videos and pictures of the ntcc cult compound to share with the viewers of this blog. We started our tour at Mom and Pop Gaylords' grave site. I know many folks have mixed feelings about Mom and Pop; but many have fond memories of them; and we most definitely do. In spite of the fact that the ntcc would probably not exist without them, they were very different than the rest of the ntcc overseers and board members in that they did things the way they felt they should be done, in many cases without the approval of r. w. davis. They would openly disagree with RWD's way of doing things; and they were not afraid of him or verna mae davis either. For us it was an honor to visit their grave site; and we will always cherish the memories that we have of what seemed to be the best of the ntcc leadership. We think when they passed away, the small remnant of good in the organization faded with their memories.
Un-Fellowship: X-ers Reunited
Don and Ange
We spent some time with the Reeds, Bro. Armer and many others we love and are becoming fast friends with. And we all had quality fellowship which we have been starving for. We think one of the most wicked rules of the ntcc is their blatant shunning of anyone who no longer attends their church. Through this rule long time friends are often separated for no reason other than the isolationist rule of the independent founder of ntcc, r. w. davis. If you attend ntcc and think those people are your friends, think again. If you choose to go to church elsewhere, those people in ntcc will drop you like a bad habit just because davis says so. Sad.
r. w. davis Manipulates Matt Reed
Mom and Pop Gaylord
As we were showing pictures of Mom and Pop's graves to Brother Reed, he told us about an occasion in which he had wanted to visit Mom and Pop's grave. Old Manipulative, Double-Standard Davis told him that he wanted to go with Matt Reed to visit the grave; and R-dub emphasized for Bro. Reed not to go without him. He promised that they would go visit together soon. I think two or three years went by and R-DUBlecross had yet to keep his word to the Brother. Without any invite or knowledge of what happened RWD took Gandy to Mom and Pop's grave site and then later told MDR that he missed out because he Wasn't Around. Davis is a very manipulative dude. Why would somebody treat a brother this way?
These are details that I remembered from Mathew Reed's account of this story. If I'm off a little or if there is more to add, I will leave that to the Brother, but that's how I remember it. This pretty much sum's up what davis is all about. He is a control mongering manipulator.
Memories of Mom and Pop
Headstone for "Pop"
William Keenan Gaylord,
MSGT USAF
I will always choose to Remember Mom and Pop Gaylord in a good light as many others also remember them. I corresponded with them through letters; and they always wrote me back. I sent one letter to davis about Ange in which I apologized for breaking bible school rules and writing a letter to her; but he never responded. Mom and Pop always seemed to have time for everyone. They once told me that Davis should have nothing to say about who I write to or talk to. I have it in writing and it is on this blog in the letters from the past post [read more >>].
Ange and Diana
We will be publishing a series of videos and pictures of our visit. Please be patient as it is a very large undertaking because of the amount of media we want to share. Ange has been working on this for weeks now and we hope to release it a little bit at a time as she is able organize it into this blog coordinating pictures, video, and stories of ntcc eXperiences.
Google Satellite Image of the Orting Cemetery and Grave Site:
Hint: Use the "+" and "-" symbols to zoom in and out of the map.
The NTCC Cult Compound lies between 210th St. E. & 224th St. E.
Well, here it is. If anyone else has been manipulated in the same way, at least you can view pictures of Mom and Pop's grave site.
All I can do is shake my head at the actions of Davis. I can't believe he would use something like this to get back at Matt Reed. I'll never fully understand the dynamics of what takes place in a Narcissists mind. I've never had this mental disorder and it's truly a sick way of thinking. It's definitely not a Christian character trait but rather opposes Christianity.
We hope that pictures are worth more than a thousand words because in this series of blog posts you are going to see with your eyes what the ntcc is all about. There is not much more that we can do to help people realize what is going on around them. You have heard many true accounts and known many of the folks who have testified. The ntcc leaders have accused us of being devils and reprobates and have convinced many to have no association with us.
Since our verbal testimony and the true stories of real accounts have not been heeded, perhaps when you see the corruption with your own eyes, you might realize that you need to escape for your lives. We did and our lives have improved immensely.
Chief, you don't know the half of it! Just look at these teenie tiny grave markers for Mom and Pop! How chintzy is that? We think you were right - davis probably has built a marble mausoleum for himself. But after decades of service Mom and Pop get these low end headstones, grass and weeds overgrowing the grave site, no flowers or maintenance or even a mini American flag??? We couldn't believe it! This cemetery is literally ten minutes from the NTCC cult compound! It's an embarassig disgrace that they have no care for these folks who served them for so long. OUT!
The NTCC would spin that one also. "Mom and Pop wouldn't have wanted any money spent on a rock with his name engraved on it". "Mom and Pop wouldn't have wanted money wasted on flowers or weed killer".
Oh but it's ok to waste money on henry rifles, rolexs Cadillacs, BMWs, fat RVs, Cuckoo clocks and a knife collection. Chippy Cheat Swindlers!!!
That's right! We were waiting for a borgite to make their defense "It was Pop's last wish to have a cheap headstone." Maybe. But davis never honors anyones' wishes! Why start now? Unless you're a religious huckster named rdub who shamelessly spends other people's money on his selfish wants.
Bring all your tithe into the storehouse of Davis, (Gawd), and I will pour out a blessing...
Seems like the only thing that's getting poured out in the ntcc is the wallets of all the suckers that listen to Davis and his band of thieves. The offering buckets continue to make their rounds and ntcc suckers continue to pour the contents of their wallets out as unto the Lord, but the blessings all get sucked up into a swirling vortex in Graham.
They want you follow the old testament commandment of paying tithe but the old testament promise of God pouring out a blessing never transpires in your life unless you are on a very short list of relatives and cronies that suck up to Davis and Kekel.
A blessing that can not be contained should be enough to pay for a decent life insurance policy. A couple bucks a day would cover someone like Briggs or Hasty before they got cancer and would provide them with at least $250,000 worth of insurance to leave their families with something. How do I know that? I just purchased a policy for myself a few weeks ago. I don't have kids but if I kick the bucket I would prefer that my wife would be taken care of.
If you are an ntcc pastor you should take God at his word and before you send a single penny to Graham, you should take care of your family. But I guess some of you would rather be worse than an infidel. Don't get mad at me or Chief for saying this to you for the thousandth time either. Get mad at the author Paul or God. They wrote it.
You should say to yourself and to your congregations, we are going to stop sending our blessings that can't be contained up to Washington and we are going to keep them in our church so we can enjoy them. We are not going to make some filthy rich hooligans richer and continue to pay for all of their creature comforts. The ntcc board members are the ones that are soaking up so many blessings that they can not contain them and who are they paying tithe to? Who does Davis pay tithe to? I can take money out of my checking account and put it into my savings account. Is that paying tithe? Can you see through the hypocrisy and phoniness? If not you might as well put your waders on and go sit in an ntcc church pew five nights a week. Oh, and make sure you bring a really big shovel so you can find your way to the altar because believe it or not it would be easier to dig a tunnel through a mountain of cow manure than to find God in a money grubbing church like the ntcc.
Who does Davis pay tithe to? I can take money out of my checking account and put it into my savings account. Is that paying tithe?
Chief said...
Silly Don, you know that Davis pays tithe to the organization just like everyone else. He gives his 10% right back to the NTCC Incorporated. That's right you silly rabbit. Oh but wait... Who controls all the money in the NTCC Incorporated? Davis maybe? Olson? Kekel? That would be my uneducated guess? So if they can spend it on anything they want to, like more rental houses in Graham or his HUGH house which is church property, that's using it for the Lord right? So really he is paying tithe right? Boy I was so stupid to second guess the MAN OF GAWD old cranky Double Standard Davis. He really is a tithe payer like the rest of us!!! NOT!!!!!!! And if you think so you are a dummy.
Fat RVs, giant houses, rental properties, and all the rest whether it belongs to the church or not, is buying stuff for your self and if you think otherwise you are a dummy. Who cares what name the stuff is purchased under, you are still using it for you own pleasure so you ain't giving jack to the church and not only that the church is the people so why don't you start giving all of that stuff to them? Oh but saying "the church is the people" only benefits you when you want it to right, but when it don't benefit you, you don't practice it. The church is the organization incorporated when it benefits you and the church is the people when it benefits you unless it means giving church property to the people like the did in the book of acts and then the church isn't the people.
Stinkin double standard hypocrite religious hucksters. Con artists.
Acts 4:34 Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold,
35 And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.
Yeah I'd like to see the NTCC try that one!!!! No but that would really be giving to the church however in the NTCC, giving to the church is giving to the NTCC Incorporated and the only ones who can use NTCC INC money to there own benefit are the big cheese family members namely RWD and Kekel and whoever else they see fit. It ain't getting distributed to the people like it did in the book of Acts because the NTCC con artist leaders call that "socialism". One NTCC pastor "who I won't name out of respect" told me that the apostles were wrong for distributing goods that way in the book of acts and they were actually misguided. Isn't that convenient and I wonder who taught them that? My last dollar says it was RWD and or his brainwashed cronies. Do you guess? "Oh brother Jeff, how could you think like this"? "Evil thoughts about the great RWD"? Because since I left the NTCC I started using my brain for a change and I stopped being a blind brainwashed DUMMY!!!! And everything I write makes sense. Disputed it if you dare because we are the religious huckster slammers who slam the conniving con artists who can't heal a dog gone torn butterfly wing with a role of duck tape say no less a dude who is dying of cancer. No more NTCC defenders these days I see. That's because we are too smart for you and it is what it is.
Na, na, na na na na.
And that wasn't me praying in tongues like so amazingly everyone in the NTCC can do but yet they don't possess one other spiritual gift most specifically in this case the gift of healing. That is because they are fake.
Ain't that the truth. Chippy Cheat Swindlers. ROFLOL!!! You guys are hilarious. And I was going to stop blogging. I'm having too much fun. My mission has become entertainment. Chippy Cheats. LOL.
So true, anonymous. If they had their priorities straight, perhaps they could. They are so busy extracting money out of people that the needs of their members often go by unnoticed.
What do you bet that if they upgrade Mom and Pop's headstones they will "take up an offering" from the poor frontline ministers and ramen - every - night - for - supper - budget bible school students. But rodger and verna will still hae a brand new luxury $$$$$$$ vehicle every year or every 50,000 miles, whichever comes first - all purchased and paid for by the borg with your tithe dollars een though rodger supposedly tetired in 2004.
But don't ask them about where that money goes once you hand it over to them... you're only strong enough to earn it, not smart enough to monitor it.
Dig deeper. Old Grandma verna is murmuring about last year's car color.
We've added the Google Satellite image / map to the Orting Cemetery so anyone who wants to can visit Mom and Pop's grave site any time they want to - no strings attached.
davis is a dog for manipulating Matt Reed the way he did. davis is always pitting people, one against another. That's what he did here with Reed and Gandy, holding this whole visit over Reed's head, using it to test Reed's loyalty to r-dupe-ster, then waiting until Reed had a different and important event to go to and trying to get Reed to not do that, but instead go on that long delayed visit to the cemetery. Cut me a break. rdub is a psychological manipulator who uses people. I hope God sends him and his family people just like him who treat them just like they treat others. I know they already got taken by rony denis; but that's just the tip of the iceberg. I think Jeff is right when he says he despises the borgites. They really are despicable.
I was thinking about the whole experience there in graham. The gaylords were sure different people. One time they invited us over and we went and their house was very modest and nice. I don't recall seeing any of the "museum" furniture there. They didn't act like they were superior to you which was something I liked. In the conferences they would be always glad to see you and didn't act like they didn't see you and walked away from you, or wait till you said hi. They truly loved people! They never manipulated anybody into anything, at least that is the experience I had of them.
You are right about the pitting people vs. other. Even the women would get this treatment from the vd or tk.
Yes, Anon., you are right about Mom and Pop and their house. Your point about how some people act as if they are superior is spot on too. One of the things I really liked about Tanya Wright Keys was that she never behaved that way even though her dad was a board member and even though the other girls around her, some of them board members' daughters, were acting that way. You know, God does not want such a schism in His body. That behavior is fleshly, proud, sensual and rampant in the ntcc. davis promotes it. But it is not of God.
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Well, here it is. If anyone else has been manipulated in the same way, at least you can view pictures of Mom and Pop's grave site.
All I can do is shake my head at the actions of Davis. I can't believe he would use something like this to get back at Matt Reed. I'll never fully understand the dynamics of what takes place in a Narcissists mind. I've never had this mental disorder and it's truly a sick way of thinking. It's definitely not a Christian character trait but rather opposes Christianity.
We hope that pictures are worth more than a thousand words because in this series of blog posts you are going to see with your eyes what the ntcc is all about. There is not much more that we can do to help people realize what is going on around them. You have heard many true accounts and known many of the folks who have testified. The ntcc leaders have accused us of being devils and reprobates and have convinced many to have no association with us.
Since our verbal testimony and the true stories of real accounts have not been heeded, perhaps when you see the corruption with your own eyes, you might realize that you need to escape for your lives. We did and our lives have improved immensely.
DnA
Bunch of Chippy cheat swindlers. LOL!
Secure your wallets. ROFLOL, ha, ha, ha, ha.
Chief, you don't know the half of it! Just look at these teenie tiny grave markers for Mom and Pop! How chintzy is that? We think you were right - davis probably has built a marble mausoleum for himself. But after decades of service Mom and Pop get these low end headstones, grass and weeds overgrowing the grave site, no flowers or maintenance or even a mini American flag??? We couldn't believe it! This cemetery is literally ten minutes from the NTCC cult compound! It's an embarassig disgrace that they have no care for these folks who served them for so long. OUT!
The NTCC would spin that one also. "Mom and Pop wouldn't have wanted any money spent on a rock with his name engraved on it". "Mom and Pop wouldn't have wanted money wasted on flowers or weed killer".
Oh but it's ok to waste money on henry rifles, rolexs Cadillacs, BMWs, fat RVs, Cuckoo clocks and a knife collection. Chippy Cheat Swindlers!!!
That's right! We were waiting for a borgite to make their defense "It was Pop's last wish to have a cheap headstone." Maybe. But davis never honors anyones' wishes! Why start now? Unless you're a religious huckster named rdub who shamelessly spends other people's money on his selfish wants.
Thats right, a religious huckster. LOL.
Bring all your tithe into the storehouse of Davis, (Gawd), and I will pour out a blessing...
Seems like the only thing that's getting poured out in the ntcc is the wallets of all the suckers that listen to Davis and his band of thieves. The offering buckets continue to make their rounds and ntcc suckers continue to pour the contents of their wallets out as unto the Lord, but the blessings all get sucked up into a swirling vortex in Graham.
They want you follow the old testament commandment of paying tithe but the old testament promise of God pouring out a blessing never transpires in your life unless you are on a very short list of relatives and cronies that suck up to Davis and Kekel.
A blessing that can not be contained should be enough to pay for a decent life insurance policy. A couple bucks a day would cover someone like Briggs or Hasty before they got cancer and would provide them with at least $250,000 worth of insurance to leave their families with something. How do I know that? I just purchased a policy for myself a few weeks ago. I don't have kids but if I kick the bucket I would prefer that my wife would be taken care of.
If you are an ntcc pastor you should take God at his word and before you send a single penny to Graham, you should take care of your family. But I guess some of you would rather be worse than an infidel. Don't get mad at me or Chief for saying this to you for the thousandth time either. Get mad at the author Paul or God. They wrote it.
You should say to yourself and to your congregations, we are going to stop sending our blessings that can't be contained up to Washington and we are going to keep them in our church so we can enjoy them. We are not going to make some filthy rich hooligans richer and continue to pay for all of their creature comforts. The ntcc board members are the ones that are soaking up so many blessings that they can not contain them and who are they paying tithe to? Who does Davis pay tithe to? I can take money out of my checking account and put it into my savings account. Is that paying tithe? Can you see through the hypocrisy and phoniness? If not you might as well put your waders on and go sit in an ntcc church pew five nights a week. Oh, and make sure you bring a really big shovel so you can find your way to the altar because believe it or not it would be easier to dig a tunnel through a mountain of cow manure than to find God in a money grubbing church like the ntcc.
DnA
DnA said...
Who does Davis pay tithe to? I can take money out of my checking account and put it into my savings account. Is that paying tithe?
Chief said...
Silly Don, you know that Davis pays tithe to the organization just like everyone else. He gives his 10% right back to the NTCC Incorporated. That's right you silly rabbit. Oh but wait... Who controls all the money in the NTCC Incorporated? Davis maybe? Olson? Kekel? That would be my uneducated guess? So if they can spend it on anything they want to, like more rental houses in Graham or his HUGH house which is church property, that's using it for the Lord right? So really he is paying tithe right? Boy I was so stupid to second guess the MAN OF GAWD old cranky Double Standard Davis. He really is a tithe payer like the rest of us!!! NOT!!!!!!! And if you think so you are a dummy.
Fat RVs, giant houses, rental properties, and all the rest whether it belongs to the church or not, is buying stuff for your self and if you think otherwise you are a dummy. Who cares what name the stuff is purchased under, you are still using it for you own pleasure so you ain't giving jack to the church and not only that the church is the people so why don't you start giving all of that stuff to them? Oh but saying "the church is the people" only benefits you when you want it to right, but when it don't benefit you, you don't practice it. The church is the organization incorporated when it benefits you and the church is the people when it benefits you unless it means giving church property to the people like the did in the book of acts and then the church isn't the people.
Stinkin double standard hypocrite religious hucksters. Con artists.
The Huckster Basher
Acts 4:34 Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold,
35 And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.
Yeah I'd like to see the NTCC try that one!!!! No but that would really be giving to the church however in the NTCC, giving to the church is giving to the NTCC Incorporated and the only ones who can use NTCC INC money to there own benefit are the big cheese family members namely RWD and Kekel and whoever else they see fit. It ain't getting distributed to the people like it did in the book of Acts because the NTCC con artist leaders call that "socialism". One NTCC pastor "who I won't name out of respect" told me that the apostles were wrong for distributing goods that way in the book of acts and they were actually misguided. Isn't that convenient and I wonder who taught them that? My last dollar says it was RWD and or his brainwashed cronies. Do you guess? "Oh brother Jeff, how could you think like this"? "Evil thoughts about the great RWD"? Because since I left the NTCC I started using my brain for a change and I stopped being a blind brainwashed DUMMY!!!! And everything I write makes sense. Disputed it if you dare because we are the religious huckster slammers who slam the conniving con artists who can't heal a dog gone torn butterfly wing with a role of duck tape say no less a dude who is dying of cancer. No more NTCC defenders these days I see. That's because we are too smart for you and it is what it is.
Na, na, na na na na.
And that wasn't me praying in tongues like so amazingly everyone in the NTCC can do but yet they don't possess one other spiritual gift most specifically in this case the gift of healing. That is because they are fake.
Chief
Chief, the only way you would ever see the ntcc distibute to the poor is via a class action lawsuit.
Ain't that the truth. Chippy Cheat Swindlers. ROFLOL!!! You guys are hilarious. And I was going to stop blogging. I'm having too much fun. My mission has become entertainment. Chippy Cheats. LOL.
They couldn't attach someone's broke toe nail with a 50 gal drum of super-glue.
That's funny!
Those phonies couldn't heal a headache with a quart container filled with Tylenol, Bayer, Aleve, and Excedrin.
So true, anonymous. If they had their priorities straight, perhaps they could. They are so busy extracting money out of people that the needs of their members often go by unnoticed.
What do you bet that if they upgrade Mom and Pop's headstones they will "take up an offering" from the poor frontline ministers and ramen - every - night - for - supper - budget bible school students. But rodger and verna will still hae a brand new luxury $$$$$$$ vehicle every year or every 50,000 miles, whichever comes first - all purchased and paid for by the borg with your tithe dollars een though rodger supposedly tetired in 2004.
But don't ask them about where that money goes once you hand it over to them... you're only strong enough to earn it, not smart enough to monitor it.
Dig deeper. Old Grandma verna is murmuring about last year's car color.
What do you bet they get credit cards too for "expenses" (gas).
How much was your gas budget this week? Did somebody else buy it for you?
We've added the Google Satellite image / map to the Orting Cemetery so anyone who wants to can visit Mom and Pop's grave site any time they want to - no strings attached.
davis is a dog for manipulating Matt Reed the way he did. davis is always pitting people, one against another. That's what he did here with Reed and Gandy, holding this whole visit over Reed's head, using it to test Reed's loyalty to r-dupe-ster, then waiting until Reed had a different and important event to go to and trying to get Reed to not do that, but instead go on that long delayed visit to the cemetery. Cut me a break. rdub is a psychological manipulator who uses people. I hope God sends him and his family people just like him who treat them just like they treat others. I know they already got taken by rony denis; but that's just the tip of the iceberg. I think Jeff is right when he says he despises the borgites. They really are despicable.
I was thinking about the whole experience there in graham.
The gaylords were sure different people.
One time they invited us over and we went and their house was very modest and nice. I don't recall seeing any of the "museum" furniture there. They didn't act like they were superior to you which was something I liked.
In the conferences they would be always glad to see you and didn't act like they didn't see you and walked away from you, or wait till you said hi. They truly loved people!
They never manipulated anybody into anything, at least that is the experience I had of them.
You are right about the pitting people vs. other.
Even the women would get this treatment from the vd or tk.
Yes, Anon., you are right about Mom and Pop and their house. Your point about how some people act as if they are superior is spot on too. One of the things I really liked about Tanya Wright Keys was that she never behaved that way even though her dad was a board member and even though the other girls around her, some of them board members' daughters, were acting that way. You know, God does not want such a schism in His body. That behavior is fleshly, proud, sensual and rampant in the ntcc. davis promotes it. But it is not of God.
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