We have been following some comments on Chief's Blog by an anonymous commentator that states that Roland Moreno was a member of the New Testament Christian Church in Okinawa, Japan. The details shared anonymously by this person were that Roland was asked by his ntcc 'pastor', Phil Kinson, to give him a ride to "retrieve his wallet" and the place where Roland drove Phil Kinson to retrieve his wallet was a whore house. It was shared that after Roland reported Phil Kinson for being at a whore house, it was "the beginning of the end" for the Moreno family but not for the Adulterer [Phil Kinson]. While Phil Kinson was moved from Okinawa, Japan, he was quickly promoted to overseer status.
Moreno was ostracized, black-listed and the whole mess was brushed under the carpet. After carrying this burden around and being treated worse than the perpetrator of the adultery and sharing details of this with others, Roland Moreno reportedly shot and killed his pregnant wife and young child. He then called his ntcc pastor, Jake Espinoza, and confessed to killing his family. While it has been reported that Roland was seeking forgiveness, we don't know all the details of this phone conversation. Roland Moreno reportedly then turned the gun on himself and pulled the trigger, allegedly ending his own life.
Also on Chief's Blog, Rev. Mathew Reed, who was also a former ntcc pastor of Roland Moreno, verified that most of the same details given by the anonymous person on Chief's Blog were also shared by Moreno with him. Pastor Reed added that Moreno told him the details of Phil Kinson's adultery and the aftermath that took place in his own life.
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| Phil Kinson said about his sex with a whore: "It isn't adultery if you wear a condom!" So rest easy, Debbie Johnson, Feel-Good-Phil wasn't really cheating on you; just ask him; and he will tell you! *wink* NOT! |
Phil Kinson said:
"It's not adultery if you use a condom!" -- Phil Kinson
Phil Kinson went on to bigger and better things in ntcc, pastoring their seminary's mega-chapel in Graham, Wa. while J.R. Ashmore took over the church in Okinawa. Moreno's life was made miserable by Ashmore; who treated Moreno worse than Kinson; who was promoted. Later, Former ntcc Pastor Mathew Reed confronted R.W. Davis the founder of New Testament Christian Churches of America, Inc. about Phil Kinson's admitted adultery.
Here is a comment that Pastor Reed left on Chief's blog:
MDR here. After reading the latest posts, I decided it was time to chime in. First let me say that I never wanted to go public with this, but evidently it's already out there and I didn't realize how many others know about it too.
After I became Roland's pastor, he told me he needed to talk to me because something was heavy on his heart. Let me just say that what you've read here is almost exactly what he shared with me.
I carried this for years and finally took it to RWD [R. W. Davis] in 2005, and told him I had a problem with his leadership. I pointed to the adulterer [Philip Arthur Kinson] and told RWD I couldn't understand how that he exalted that man to an overseer position.
[Rodger Wilson Davis] RWD had previously gotten up in conferences and made it abundantly clear if you committed adultery as a minister in his organization, that you would have your license taken from you, he would expose your sin to your wife, and you would never be a leader in his organization.
It bothered me because it was clear to me at that point that RWD would change the rules to fit his own agenda. After I approached RWD about this, his treatment toward me definitely changed.
NTCC resembles the church of Laodicea in every respect. It is filled with adulterers, adulteresses, and money-hungry thieves.
I can say this one thing: Thank God we are free and we rejoice in this fact every day, that we can serve God under His wonderful grace and not under the bondage of their manmade laws.
mdr
After speaking with Pastor Reed on the phone, Chief posted his thread entitled: "Oh the Hypocrisy that Drove a Man to Murder and Suicide". This thread gives an account of details that Pastor Reed shared with Chief via phone conversation and includes a link to a news report of the tragedy.
From Chief's blog [text in brackets added for clarity]:
This is a tough one. Not quite as easy as I [Chief] expected but nevertheless, here we go. There was a man in the NTCC by the name of Roland Moreno. Roland personally observed his NTCC pastor leaving a whore house in Japan. Roland confronted the pastor and a heated confrontation erupted between Roland and his pastor concerning the obvious impropriety and truly unchristian-like conduct committed by the supposed "man of God" [Philip Kinson]. According to the account which I was personally told, the pastor [Phil Kinson] said that his conduct didn't classify as adultery because he wore a condom during his sexual act with the whore. This pastors name was Phil Kinson!
Roland was somehow able to provide notification to the NTCC leadership concerning Kinson's misconduct and Mr. Kinson was later removed from Okinawa Japan and replaced by another minister. This is when Roland's big troubles began. The minister that replaced Mr. Kinson was Mr. [James Ross] Ashmore, and Mr. [James Ross] Ashmore promptly proceeded to blacklist and ostracize Roland Moreno. Never again was Roland Moreno treated justly by the NTCC leadership. The NTCC leadership to include R.W. Davis systematically targeted Roland Moreno and his wife from that point forward. Word to the wise; (At which point in time you elect to challenge the authority, credibility or morality of an NTCC pastor, you better be prepared to promptly leave the New Testament Christian Church for good). You'll never win that battle and Roland had to find that out the hard way.
At a later date, M.D. Reed had the fortitude and courage to confront R.W. Davis directly concerning this scandal. Pastor Reed wanted to know why RWD would promote Mr. [Phil] Kinson (who was known to have committed adultery) to the position of overseer within the New Testament Christian Church. R.W. Davis pointed his finger in Pastor Reed's face and essentially scolded Pastor Reed for involving himself in another man's adulterous affairs. M.D. Reed posted a statement on this blog, where you can read it on the previous thread.
Ultimately Roland Moreno was blacklisted by the NTCC leadership because he uncovered Mr. Kinson's sin. The blacklisting obviously occurred because Kinson is the son-in-law of an NTCC overseer [Jim L. Johnson] and in case you haven't figured it out yet, the NTCC is a family business. This resulted in Roland succumbing to extreme depression which caused him to [allegedly] take the life of himself and his family. Plainly put, "The NTCC leadership drove Moreno mad".
Attached below is a news article which addresses Mr. Moreno's death.
http://www.texnews.com/1998/2003/texas/texas_Police_se925.html
This is a true story which has been verified by the credible and reliable. I was told this first hand and to the best of my knowledge I'm reporting factual information. Make no mistake; double standard hypocrites who preach fire and brimstone will eventually be found out. This is tragic and truly sad for all parties involved. These crooked preachers need to do the honorable thing and leave the pulpit and stop judging everyone but themselves.
I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints (Mr. Moreno's blood and the blood of his family is on the hands of the NTCC leadership)
And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird. For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies. And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities. Reward her even as she rewarded you, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double. How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow. Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.
In a comment left by Pastor Reed on Chief's thread, MDR also answered an anonymous comment that stated:
Anon said "I suggest to you that if Kinson committed this act, its possible that Gods grace just might be sufficient to forgive him of that heinous sin."
MDR said...
Once again, you try to deflect the topic from the real issue. Davis exalted this piece of work to a leadership position after HE SAID that would never happen in HIS organization.
If a man repents, that's between him and God, and I definitely don't have a problem with that. I told Davis that when I came to him about this situation. God's grace IS sufficient.
But I saw how Roland's wife, Maria, was treated in that conference, when Davis got up and unmercifully plowed her in the ground just because she wanted to stop and look at some of God's beautiful creation. He said that she should care for souls as much as she likes those horses. (I wonder if Davis, the Kekels or you ever had those thoughts when you're in the diamond stores or furniture marts. Hmmmm! Hypocrite!) [Yellow highlights added by Don and Ange for emphasis.]
After that service my wife and I were at the Moreno's van consoling Maria, who was crying uncontrollably because of what Davis said to her in that service. She asked me, "Pastor Reed, why did he say that to me? I've done nothing wrong."
And let me just say for the record, both Roland and Maria cared passionately for souls and brought many people to church. I would say they cared about souls far more than any of you hypocrites who deserve to be thrown on a dung hill.
You can try to brand Moreno as a nut, but you're the real nut job, and you're in a basket full of nuts. You'll never convince me that the unfaithful pastor/husband's [Phil Kinson's] actions and the subsequent treatment by other leaders [James Ross Ashmore and Rodger Wilson Davis] in the NTCC didn't have a part in Rolands mental demise.
The Morenos were among the most wonderful people that my wife and I have ever known, and anyone who knew them knows what I'm saying is true.
mdr
Ironically, in yet another tragic story, Pastor Jake Espinoza, who reportedly spake with Moreno on the phone just before he pulled the trigger which ended his own life, had a similar tragedy in his own family according to this unverified story submitted as a comment on Chiefs blog:
I heard the same story from somebody close to the espinosas.
Apparently their younger brother suffered from some type of mental illness and had a shoot out with the washington police.
He tried to kill his girlfriend and baby, but she was able to get away and call the police. I'm not sure if he killed himself or the police killed him.
Maybe you can find more factual info in the archives of the news there in puyallup because I wasn't around when that happened. I think the year was 07 or 08.
We have followed this story and decided to summarize what was shared in this thread so that people that search this story can find public details as reported by those close to this tragedy. We hope that people in the ntcc or those that consider attending the ntcc do a thorough examination into the affairs of the ntcc before deciding to attend.
Related Threads:
1) Moreno Tragedy: Click Here
2) Updated: Kinson, Kinson, You Too Have Sinned: Click Here
3) Full Series About The Loss of
The Moreno Family Click Here
2) Updated: Kinson, Kinson, You Too Have Sinned: Click Here
3) Full Series About The Loss of
The Moreno Family Click Here
Rev. Reed said in his comment:
ReplyDelete"If a man repents, that's between him and God, and I definitely don't have a problem with that. I told Davis that when I came to him about this situation. God's grace IS sufficient."
DnA said:
Grace is a wonderful thing, and I have sure received my share of it over the years. We lived for years under the law of the ntcc and we have seen more unrighteousness and unholiness in those self righteous ntcc'rs than I have seen in people that are outright sinners. There are also good people in the ntcc and we hope you find your way out of this seemingly hopeless cult.
If a man repents he is sorrowful for the sins he commits and that man admits to his sin and changes. Usually in the ntcc, if a member sins, they don't get promoted to pastor of the biggest church in the organization but they are blasted from the pulpit, unless they have a humble man of God for their pastor that is more interested in restoring them. W.K. Gaylord was interested in restoring me and I believe that he protected me from a similar outcome to that which Moreno endured. The difference in Moreno and what really must have hurt him was that he wasn't guilty of anything. He did that which he believed was right and was treated like a piece of human excrement for it.
I think that grace and mercy are distributed out to the wrong people in the ntcc. Judgment is also distributed out to the wrong people by the ntcc leadership.
"Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself: for thou that Judgest DOEST THE SAME THINGS.
But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things.
And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?
Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?
But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God:
Who will render to every man according to his deeds:
To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also the Gentile;
Romans 2:1-9
O thou that preaches to the masses... Are you guilty? Is there a double standard? Have you not hoarded enough money to yourselves? Why don't you let God's people go so they can worship him? You have enough of their money to retire off of and live out the rest of your selfish lives in luxury. You can split it up between the board members and the nepotistic components of the ntcc and you'd have enough for everyone in your circle to have millions. Let your slaves go and discover the freedom of worshiping a loving and merciful God.
DnA
Such a terrible tradgedy.
ReplyDeleteI'm glad people are finally recognizing that keeping things a secret and trying to obey the thought of not gossiping so that they will not commit a sin that will send them to hell is a form of brainwashing and mind control that allows horrible horrible tradgedies to happen.
It is truely amazing how much mind control and brainwashing the leaders of NTCC were able to abuse people with and that to this day people struggle with speaking up and think they may possibly go to hell for the sin of gossiping.
You're so right, Nicole. First of all, the ntcc leaders really do gossip all the time. Just ask anyone who has spent time around the board members and their wives and you will know what gossip is.
ReplyDeleteSecondly, there is a time to air the dirty laundry; and it is not the sin of gossip. The apostle Paul plainly wrote openly about the man who had sex with his father's wife. Paul told the Corinthians to put the man aside so the man would repent. Once he did repent, Paul instructed the Corinthians to receive the man again into the fold.
In ntcc, it does not work that way. They ran off Moreno because he exposed Phil Kinson's adultery with a whore.
But they promoted the impenitent adulterer Phil Kinson.
ntcc is run by an impenitent adulterer, rodger davis. Who will run you off if you don't kiss his butt.
That's the bottom line, folks. Pun intended.
But it's not how God operates. God wants people to confess their sins, not make excuses like "it's not adultery if you wear a condom".
God wants to forgive, not treat people so bad they murder their families and kill themselves.
ntcc hides the sin of their family members, while attacking real Christians even to death.
God sees this. Will you? Will you admit that it is not gossip to expose sin and support the person who has the Godly integrity to call adultery a sin? Or will you continue in the ntcc excuse cycle, 'Pastor says...'
We fear for those of you who continue in the sins of these ungodly hypocrites. Evil communications corrupt good manners. Don't you think you should stand for Jesus MORE than you bow to davis and kekel????
Telling the truth to get people to repent used to be called preaching. ntcc wants you to live in fear to their cult phrase 'gossip' while they go around and actually gossip spreading slanderous lies and libel.
People, God does not want you to be blown about by all the false doctrine put out by groups like the ntcc. Grow up in grace and in the knowledge of the truth. Get in your bibles and apply what you see. Stop looking to davis and kekel to wipe your nose and tell you what to do.
Let the Spirit lead you. Isn't that what the Bible says of the children of God? They are to be Spirit led, not spoon fed by hypocrites like Phil Kinson who can't keep his 'johnson' behind his zipper, that 3rd brownie out of his mouth, his hands off a 13 year old girl's butt, or even keep his marriage vows. Come on people. You don't need to follow a "leader" that can not control his own fleshly appetites. Get real. Look to GOD for your direction. He will start by bringing you out of the controlling ntcc cult.
I was a little girl who lost her childhood because of NCC. I And still confused about many things, I have a long way to go but that cult destroyed our family, and my mother. Let there be hell to pay when God Is the judge People using his word to manipulate the weak and the lonely.
ReplyDeleteYet another heartbreaking true story of how it is in the ntcc.
ReplyDeleteSaddest story,ever! Wake up NTCC!
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