eX-members' of ntcc Blogspot

A safe place for Xers to share their stories and heal.

A place to learn what it's really like in the ntcc founded by Rodger Wilson Davis;
and run by his son-in-law, Michael Craig Kekel,
the father of the one vasectomy-rule-exception kid in ntcc, Grant Davison Kekel.

He Loves A House More Than God: Bonco Mansions of kekel (l) and davis (r)

He Loves A House More Than God:  Bonco Mansions of kekel (l) and davis (r)
"He loves a house more than God:" *Bonco* Mansions of kekel (l) and davis (r). Meanwhile, on the mission field: ntcc Missionaries to the Philippines "Rev. and Sis. Mackert ... found a place, 9 feet by 14 feet [9'x14'] and one bathroom. It is on the 6th floor and there is no elevator. The last place they had stayed, they had to share a common bathroom with the other tenants! Yikes! This place has their very own private bathroom, although the Rev. shared there is no seat on the throne, and no way to attach one…." from The Devonshire Files Sunday, May 28, 2006 Visit from the Mackerts (5/06). ** Should you know where the money ($$$$$) goes? **

Jesus In The Temple

Matt 21:12 And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves, Matt 21:13 And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.
Gal. 4:16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth? John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. 1 John 4:6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Skip To Blue Letter Bible Search Tool

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Monday, January 31, 2011

Documentary (factual series episode) on ntcc? You decide...

“Call for Participants: We are producers partnered with a major news outlet, and are seeking families or individuals who were formerly involved in demanding groups/organization(s) to share their stories. We are interested in both positive and negative experiences, and hope to hear from those who have separated from the group within the last 9 months. If you would like additional information, please email Documentary On Controlling Groups [clpdocumentary@gmail.com] and describe your current situation. Thank you.”

We found this request Time To Tell Your Experiences  on a Religious Cults Info Site and thought we'd pass it on to you.

What's it all mean?

It means some people are going to do a documentary on demanding groups.  If we share our experiences with them, they may include the New Testament Christian Church in their documentary series.  This is another opportunity to share your story and help others avoid the ntcc experience.  

Wednesday, January 26, 2011

The Celibacy Policy or "Forbidding To Marry"

Part 2:  The Celibacy Policy or "Forbidding To Marry"

Part 1:  My Life And Times With ntcc:  or "Why I Left The ntcc"

Part 3:  Homosexual 'Pastors' In The ntcc; Names Included

Part 4:  Nichelle Tieman's Adultery and Lying:  NOT_Overseer Material

During our years as members of the cult called ntcc, there were many doctrines preached and rules enforced that we went along with out of fear and misunderstanding. Now years later we find that many of the teachings of the ntcc rules are not backed by scripture; but we and many others followed and obeyed these teachings out of fear and misguided zeal for what we thought was "the only true doctrine in the land".

The leaders, pastors, and board members would subtly introduce these rules [now claimed to be 'policies']  at times while preaching salvation; and other times they would boldly preach these rules as scripture, with reckless abandon, not concerned with whom they hurt, or whom they ran off. There is a sickness in the ntcc and among its leadership that compels them to preach Christ crucified and get people genuinely saved and hungering for God; only so that they can indoctrinate them with control policies; and shape them into what best suits ntcc purposes. The #1 goal of r w davis is to convert servants of Christ into servants of RWD. The biggest mistake that we as Christians made in the ntcc is thinking that because we were saved while attending the ntcc, that the ntcc had to be right in their doctrine and 'policies'. "If God saved me here, how could they possibly be wrong?" What makes this so perverse is that it's all done because of money.

Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. 2 Tim 2:15
The #1 goal of r w davis is to convert servants of Christ into servants of RWD.
We are going to compare ntcc's rules, [now called 'policies' and enforced with dire consequences visited on those who don't obey the rules] with the scripture and "rightly divide the word of truth". We also are going to ask for the millionth time if these rules were right all along why are they now being changed and renamed as 'policies'? Is God still the same? Did the Holy Ghost lie to r w davis when he preached these things to us?
The celibacy policy is where the ntcc forbids marriage.
It is the ntcc's doctrine of matchmaking and forcing members to live in celibacy.
We are not advocating fornication or adultery or child molestation like the ntcc does!

Forced Celibacy or Forbidding to Marry by Forbidding Dating Thru Match-Making Rules:
The first policy rule that we are going to look at is the celibacy policy rule where the ntcc forbids marriage. Let's see if we can find some scriptures that support the ntcc's doctrine of matchmaking and forcing members to live in celibacy.

First of all, we are not advocating fornication or adultery or child molestation as is advocated by the ntcc. michael c kekel has never come out and denied his child molestation of tanya davis when she was a young teen [minor/jailbait] and he was in his early twenties [adult/pedophile].  Therefore we believe the witness of Vic Johanson in previous posts on Jeff's blog and this blog. Vic has no reason to lie and MCK has every reason in the world to cover it up.

Here's what the scripture says; now lets honestly try to rightly divide the word of truth as we read:
Now lets honestly try to RIGHTLY divide the word of truth as we read what the scripture says; and, please, no 'private interpretations' or 'secret revelations'...
"Nevertheless, [to avoid] fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband." 1 Cor 7:2
"For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that."
"I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I."
"But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn." 1 Cor 7:7-9
"Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;"
"Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;"
"Forbidding to marry, [and commanding] to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth." 1 Tim 4:1-3
We can find no supporting scripture that justifies what the ntcc has done to many of its members... forbidding single men from talking to single women ... forbidding them to date and thus forbidding them to marry.  That contradicts God's word!
These are just a few scriptures that we have taken five minutes to look up. Rightly dividing these words of truth, we can find no supporting scripture that justifies what the ntcc has done to many of its members. We welcome anyone from the ntcc that can find a scripture without twisting it, that supports their practice of forbidding single men from talking to single women, or forbidding them to date, thereby forbidding them to marry. Please:  no 'private interpretations' or 'secret revelations'.


Let The Dead Bury Their Dead:
While my mother was terminally ill, various ntcc leaders put pressure on me to stay in their works so they would have one faithful tithe payer bringing in more income to their works... They used God as an excuse when they told me that "They had prayed; and God wanted me to help them."
They had no consideration for me or my mother; but instead ntcc's stance was, "Let the dead bury their dead."
In 1989, I was stationed in Camp Humphreys, Korea, and helped Rev. L. C. Barnes start a church. In one short year we had about 30 members; and as Rev. Barnes was getting ready to PCS, ntcc sent Tom and Rachel Wright over to run this servicemen's home. We had about 4 people (including myself) that moved into the home and a handful of tithe payers attending church regularly. I had invited many of the members out to church and was very involved and invested in the work.

In October, I went on leave to attend a conference in the States. While on leave, I visited my parents and found out that my mother had cancer. She asked me if I could stay home with her and help. At first I said no; because I felt that God wanted me in Korea; but only because I was so brainwashed at the time, that I believed the constantly repeated ntcc mantra "let the dead bury their dead" doctrine.

Althouth that is part of the scripture, the ntcc twisted or wrested that scripture.  It was often used by the ntcc to separate people from their families and loved ones just to keep the tithes coming into ntcc coffers.

Mystical Manipulation:  "We Prayed About It.  God Wants You Here."

While at home in Denver, I was attending ntcc services in Colorado Springs and commuting 140 miles round trip just about every day.

  1. The Tiemans were in Colorado Springs; and they told me that they had prayed; and God wanted me to help them.
  2. I would talk to the Wrights on the phone; and they felt that God wanted me there; and that the home in Korea depended on me. 

Is God double-minded?  No.  Clearly both the Tiemans and the Wrights were using mystical manipulation on me, claiming they had the 'mind of God'.  Rubbish.  They were just using me.

Finally, David Tieman (Sr.) called r. w. davis and told him that the Wrights were pressuring me to go back to Korea; and the Tiemans wanted me to put in for a compassionate reassignment in Colorado. RWD told Tieman to have me "Pray about it." and do what God wanted me to do.  That was davis' way of washing his hands of everyone's attempt to mystically manipulate me into staying with them and paying their bills while blaming God, saying, "We prayed about it; God wants you here."

I eventually made the decision to stay in Colorado Springs; and the Army attached me to Fitzsimons Army Medical Center in Denver, pending compassionate reassignment.  Although this was the easy thing to do at the time, it was a sacrifice; because I really wanted to return to Korea and help the work I had started with Rev. Barnes; but after much pressure from all around, I decided to stay in Colorado.

Sexual Temptation Worsened by the Celibacy Rule Forbidding To Marry:

During this time, Nichelle Tieman began to make sexual advances toward me while David Tieman (Sr.) was locked up in his room, "studying God's word". If ntcc did not have their twisted rule forbidding to marry, I would probably have already been married and living in my own home with my own wife.  But ntcc's celibacy rule had already struck major blows against my attempts to seek a normal marital relationship.

Prior to this, I had been denied by two (2) previous pastor's the "privilege of talking to" two other sisters; simply because they were earmarked for bible school! I was 25 years old and the whole celibacy policy rule was not working for me. I did not have the gift of celibacy that the Apostle Paul was speaking of in I Corinthians, chapter 7.

ntcc's celibacy rule is a direct violation of God's word found here:

1 Cr 7:2  Nevertheless, [to avoid] fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

If ntcc did not contradict God's Word and have this twisted doctrine, I would have had my own wife and place to stay; I never would have been around for such temptations.  Instead, I was forced to live in celibacy, in a servicemen's home, where the apparently unfulfilled or insatiable 'pastor's wife' would make constant advances towards me.

Nichelle Tieman would rub up against me inappropriately with her breasts and rear end when nobody was around. I almost committed adultery with her but was convicted after inappropriately touching her one evening. After that night, I started rejecting her sexual advances. One morning she came down to my room in the home and knocked on my door. She said that her husband was at work; and she "wanted to lay with me". I rejected that advance and many others.  I also remember her telling me that she loved another brother; he was a worker named Rev. Rice.  She said she would marry him if anything ever happened to her husband David Tieman (Sr.).

Shortly after this, I had invited Ange to church. We were young, the same age, single, Christians and really attracted to each other. She "got right in" and started paying tithe and giving home offerings, even though she didn't live in the home. By ntcc standards that meant she was "really saved" or a Christian. I really believed God was blessing me and her, and that we'd be married and spend the rest of our happy lives together.  But that didn't happen, thanks to the ntcc's celibacy rule and nichelle tieman's lying.

Meanwhile, in Colorado, I commuted back and forth from Denver, where my mother was dying, to Colorado Springs, where the servicemen's home was located.  I did this for about 6 months, many times without missing any ntcc services, soul winning, prayer meetings, or events.   My Mom, who was already saved, had attended church service at ntcc one night, when james ross  ashmore was preaching.  She said that she had never in her life met anyone as cold as he was.   She came to church a few times; and my younger brother also came out to some services.

My mother died in 1990. When I got the call about my Mom, I was in the Tieman's living room. I told the Tieman's that my mom had went home to be with the Lord.

Nichelle Tieman said, "Your mother wasn't saved; if she was, she would have attended our services regularly and adhered to our holiness standards."
Nichelle might as well have hit me in the head with a club! I was shocked and furious inside!

I remembered back to when I was 8 years old; I used to roll joints for my mom. I remembered when she used to drink and bring home strange men. I also remembered when my Mom started going to an Assembly of God Church and got saved and stopped drinking and drugs and had Christ in her life. She was certainly saved by the grace of God and had the fruits of the Holy Spirit in her life!


Around this time, I called Pop Gaylord and told him what Nichelle was doing and confessed my role in it. He relayed the info to r. w. davis; within a week rdub came through to assess the situation. He decided to remove the Tieman's from the work in Colorado Springs and sent them to Portland, Oregon.

While he was there, Nichelle told davis that Ange felt like she was 'called' to go to Bible School; which was an outright lie. At this time Ange and I were talking about marriage. From this point on Ange felt pressured to go to bs and eventually went.

This 'little lie' that Nichelle told would ruin two marriages for Ange. One that should have happened; and one that never should have happened. This would also trigger 7 more years of celibacy in my life and an eventual decision to leave not only the ntcc, but also God.

I often asked myself what I had done to deserve this treatment. After making one of the biggest decisions of my life to stay, help, and support this cult called the New Testament Christian Church in Colorado Springs, they caused this miscarriage of justice! I was giving more than 10% tithe, offerings, home offerings, building fund pledges, world missions pledges, attending all services and functions, rejecting sexual advances by Nichelle Tieman, bringing dozens of people to church every month, commuting thousands of miles to help my terminally ill mother; and I loved God and the Tiemans in spite of what they had done and what was going on. But this was my 'reward'?   I wish I could say that this was an isolated instance; but it is not.

The ntcc often referred to itself as "the last hope for a lost and dying world". But instead of bringing hope, they were crushing it. Instead of saving the lost, they were driving Christians away from God.

These blogs are full of stories of cruel injustices committed by the ntcc, of lives that have been devastated, of families that have been torn apart, and of people that ntcc has used up, rejected, and sent back out into 'the world' to start their lives over with nothing.  All their finances have gone to the ntcc.  All their family ties have been broken from those who don't attend ntcc.  They have no careers or pensions or insurance or future.  They have to start life over, from scratch, with no support system.  Even their life-long ntcc friends and family will forsake them, treating them as if leaving ntcc equals leaving God.  The borg treats them as reprobates.  It's sad and so needless.


We write these things not because of hatred or revenge, but to warn people, and to let others know that they are not alone in their suffering, and, if possible, to trigger repentance.

These are not lies, but rather facts; that can be verified by two or more witnesses; and, above all, God knows all about it. The same ones that call us reprobates are the ones that have abused their salvation - if they ever had it - and will have to answer for it. We will continue to be a voice of truth that tells you the true story - a different story than that which the ntcc has to share.

We implore everyone that is involved with this cult to take a closer look and escape with what's left of your life. If you are thinking about attending, do your homework first.
  • Study cults and their tactics.
  • Learn about mind control.
  • See how cult leaders use it to control every aspect of your life.
  • Study the bible.
  • See if you can find examples of Jesus or his followers destroying peoples' lives with unbiblical policies such as the celibacy policy of forbidding to marry.
  • Use the ntcc's own standards to decide if they are a 'bible believing church' that follows Jesus' examples of love and temperance. 

But if you find they act like a cult, well... "If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and waddles like a duck, it's probably a duck!"  SO....

If it looks like a cult, talks like a cult, and changes rules like a cult, it's probably a cult!

Related Posts:

Don's Story [Click Link To See All His Posts In A Mobile View]

Part 2:  The Celibacy Policy:  or "Forbidding To Marry"

Part 1:  My Life and Times In The ntcc:  "Why I Left The ntcc"

Part 3:  Homosexual 'Pastors' In The ntcc: Names Included

Part 4:  Nichelle Tieman's Adultery and Lying:  NOT_Overseer Material


Coming Up: The ntcc Adultery or Divorce on Demand Policy:


Crossing The Line:  Part 1 of Adultery On Demand

Spouse Swapping:   Part 2 of Divorce On Demand 


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A) Sounds Like A True Description Of The ntcc.
B) ntcc Sounds Like A Cult.
C) I Read This Post.
D) ntcc encourages sexual impropriety by forbidding marriages, tempting people to sin since they are not "allowed" by ntcc leaders to get married or even date or talk to other single people.
E) ntcc often requires members to do things that have no biblical basis, like forbidding single people from talking to each other.
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"F" I'm afraid to be caught commenting on this blog.
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Thursday, January 13, 2011

Buddy Jesus

Vote Anonymously On This Post By Clicking On The Lettered Boxes Below:
A)  Love It!
B)  Hate It!
C)  This Is So Cool!
D)  This Is So Disrespectful!
E)  People Put Too Much Emphasis On Outward Appearances.
F)  Create Your Own  "F"  Legalism Kills; But The Holy Spirit Gives Life!
G)  God Saves By Grace!
H) Create Your Own"H"  Everything About Jesus Is Sacred Including His Heart!
I)   Images Are Wrong! 
J)   Create Your Own   Jesus Is Jewish So He Probably Doesn't Have Blue Eyes!
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Saturday, January 1, 2011

Flippin' Churches Part 1

It's our opinion the ntcc church-flipping empire and real-estate- holding company was created to make a few individuals independently wealthy and to bring in constant streams of income to an organization that brainwashes people into giving all they can so those at the top can prosper.  If not, why is it that only the upper echelon families in corporate ntcc are prospering financially?  Why do seminary students struggle to pay rent, while davis, kekel, ashmore, and other big wigs live in mansions and drive quarter-of-a-million-dollar motor homes, oops, recreational vehicles!?!

Flipping Real Estate:
Flipping real estate is a lucrative business that was created to make large amounts of money in a short period of time.  It also is used by many to launder money; because transactions can be completed quickly and finalized; money can be moved around quickly; and transactions can be complicated, making the money trail hard to follow.  These are the basics of how this works; and why the ntcc is set up perfectly to thrive off real estate.

Real Estate is an Investment:
It has been one of the most stable investments in history; and only recently has it floundered.  Even now, with all of the talk of increasing foreclosures and decreased property values, it is a buyer's market; and choice real estate can be purchased at a steal and sold for a decent profit, if a person knows what to  do.  This is how it works:

Buy Low. Fix Up Cheap. Sell High.
NTCC New Testament Christian Churches of America, Inc.
 Our First Church a Fixer-Upper! 
You buy a building and property that is in foreclosure or that is dirt cheap and in need of many repairs (a fixer-upper).  You squabble with the seller and get them to come down to the lowest price imaginable.  You get the best terms that you can qualify for on a loan.  Then the fun starts.  You make the repairs yourself and hire out to contractors only what you can't do.  The more labor you put into it yourself, the more profit you will make.  After the property is repaired, you give it curb appeal, by doing a few inexpensive things to make it desirable at first glance to those who are in the market to buy; then you sell!

NTCC Sees Servicemen As Free Labor and Deep Pockets:
Or, even more profitable, you can keep it; or hoard it to yourself.  It can become a cash cow under the right circumstances; say, by filling it with cash-only paying renters like bible college students  and ministers; who were recruited from our nation's military forces; and whom you then require to live in your cult compound,  oops, on the campus, or in the Bonco that you own in Graham, Washington.  Since, after all, New Testament Christian Church (NTCC) runs the seminary or bible college and makes all the rules, these students are REQUIRED to obey.  In fact, ntcc will require these men and women to sign a sheet stating they will obey all the rules, even though they don't even know what those rules are that they are agreeing to obey!

CASH ONLY RENTAL INCOME, Oops, "Home Offerings"
Or you can make money off your investment, your upgraded fixer-upper, by filling it with cash-only tithe-paying G.I.s and service members who live at the home and are required by ntcc to  sign a contract before moving in; which requires them to obey ALL the rules that they haven't even seen or heard yet, and requires them to attend all church/home functions, and pledges, in writing, that they will pay cash-only rent; oops!  We meant to say "home offerings" and  various other offerings that are encouraged to be made in each mandatory church function, where the ntcc minister is required to admonish everyone that "all Christians pay tithes and give in offerings"!  So if you don't, in the ntcc CULTure, you are NOT considered a Christian; you are "lost" or hellbound!

Free Labor:  G.I.s, Seminary Students, and  Preachers:
The ntcc is set up perfectly to create endless streams of cash income to its founders and overseers.  Not only do they have free labor; but they have lots of it.  G.I.s will "do anything for the work of God"; especially since that will be pounded into them and used to humiliate them if they don't "give 'til it hurts".  But most succumb easily enough.  Give them some biscuits and gravy for breakfast;  and they will work all day without a break.  In the words of tanya davis kekel, who learned it from her mamma and daddy, [verna mae (not victoria, that's a name verna gave herself to make herself look like some kind of queen-B) and rodger wilson davis], the ntcc sees people as:

"Strong backs with weak minds." Quoting davis and kekel

In other words, you exist for them to exploit!  They take  advantage of your Christian charity / love to serve their selfish agendas.  Meanwhile they despise you as being weak minded but willing to do the heavy lifting; so they don't have to lift a finger.  Ahem.

Skilled Laborers Working For Peanuts:
Another way ntcc gets free or cheap labor is from the skills of bible college seminary students and ministers.  Many of these ntcc men have a little bit of experience doing stuff like plumbing, electrical, drywall, roofing, etc.  So ntcc has all of the worker-bees they need; and ntcc can increase the value of a building exponentially in a short time by (ab)using this free-labor and cheap-labor work force.  After all,


"Anyone who loves God would do anything for the work of God."  ntcc cult jargon to exploit and use people

All the ntcc has to do is 'preach' to them; and they will do anything.  "If you love God, come by this Saturday and lend a hand for the work of the Lord.  Help us put a roof on this building for the Lord.  Help us sand the arches in this sanctuary for the Lord.  Come help build the retaining wall for our massive church parking lot.  You love God; don't you?"  You get the picture.  It is straight-up spiritual manipulation playing on a Christian's love for the Lord in order to exploit him or her.  Shame on you, ntcc!

Pioneer Works and Workers:
NTCC New Testament Christian Churches of America, Inc.
 In a Few Years of Hard Work / Sacrifice 
 And Most Important G.I.s Tithe Monies! 
Many times a new preacher, or "Pioneer" as they are so called in ntcc, will buy a building that is not fit to be lived in by a dog.  While they also have a full-time job and family to feed, they will live in this building, and spend large amounts of their hard earned money fixing and repairing it on their limited time off between church services.  While the corporate ntcc coffers grow, no money is sent to help these struggling ministers start or pioneer these works.

If the minister is in an "established work" he generally will use the brethren as free labor; just like he was trained to do at the ntcc bible school (now called a seminary, even though ntcc used to mock other seminaries, calling them "cemeteries".  Hypocrites.)

If it's just the preacher and his family in a work, he will use his wife and kids if he has to.  The first task is to make the place livable.  Then they do all the things necessary to transform it into a church or servicemen's home with a sanctuary. They will work on it for months and years to make it better and better.

Once they have increased the value of the property 2 or 3 fold or more, and have a small congregation of givers, can you guess what happens next?  One of two things can happen next:

Flip That Building (Sell for Profit):

The first is that Rodger Wilson Davis and his band of 'leaders' (who crack the whip from the rear) can opt to send a complete dud and abusive jerk to a work.  This is done so that he can systematically destroy the congregation by running off everyone.

This option works best if ntcc has a good chunk of equity in a property and wants to tap into that money for the purchase of a new recreational vehicle, oops, motor home, or to send a privileged kid, the founder's grandson, to secular school, or to buy that kid some T.V.s and DVD players and games; because he's not a prayer warrior, but an e-warrior!   And he, like his daddy and grandpappy, needs the latest toys to keep him occupied, even if those toys are purchased off your sacrifice, dime, and time.  Or who know's?  Maybe this profit from a so-called non-profit is needed so tanya kekel can go to the malls and 'shop 'til she drops'?

Whatever the reason, the idea is to run off all the faithful congregants, (who gave their time and money to build the church and the escrow account), and sell the property for a profit, (now that it is renovated), and pocket the proceeds, (zero out the escrow account), since there are no congregants to wonder what happened to all that money they gave; then ntcc corporate can continue to stump for more money at the next conference in order to have  more funds to misappropriate.  Sound about right?  Right.  But oh so wrong.  But that is how it is in YOUR ntcc.  If not, why all the secrecy?  Why is there zero financial transparency in YOUR ntcc?

Milk It For More Cash Income:

Or, getting back to how ntcc pulls off the real-estate shuffle:  The "Pioneer" (construction handyman) worker is "called by Gawd" (or was it Rodger Wilson Davis and the Executive Board?), to go to another work.  Guess what?  He did such a good job flipping this property, ntcc is going to make him and his family "Pioneer" another work.  They get to start all over from scratch, putting all their time and work and money into another "Fixer-Upper" so that the Borg can turn another profit and send them somewhere else.

Now that this dude is gone from these renovated churches and does not have any interest whatsoever in the profit that he has generated and the equity that he has created,  another man has come to take his place; the church is growing and needs a larger sanctuary or more parking spaces.  What will ntcc do?  They will send the ntcc building crew down there to extend the sanctuary and make more parking spaces.

The ntcc has the cheapest labor on planet earth.  Where else can you find builders that are skilled enough to own their own construction businesses as General Contractors, who will do quality work for 6 dollars per hour?  Only in the ntcc.  Not only that, they will only be paid for forty hours a week, despite working much longer hours, with no breaks or paid lunches or vacations or benefits. They will also be expected to buy all their own tools and safety equipment.  Some will even try to cheat the hardware store by purchasing a specialized tool, using it for that one job, then returning it for a refund!  The things they teach you in the ntcc!

But to get back to profiting from real estate:  Now the ntcc has a building that was purchased for less than 40k, that is now, thanks to free or cheap labor, worth well over $100,000.00.  This building will continue to bring in tithes and offerings for years and years to come.  The money will be sent to an escrow account controlled by the Graham, Washington ntcc.  And the local pastor will be told to continue  "to take up an offering"  rather than use the money the local church raised!

If the pastor can brainwash enough new converts, he can "go full-time" in the ministry.  That means he can sit on his lazy seat of do-nothing, let his congregation support him, and have a small fraction of the power that the rulers of this real-estate empire are enjoying.

Renting a Building That You Already Purchased and Renovated:
Now ntcc has many fully functional upgraded churches and servicemen's homes that have been improved and renovated; their values increased 2 or 3 times or more; many of them are paid off; yet the ntcc corporate is still charging rent on the property!  Plus the congregants are bringing in tithes and offerings, 40% of which (after the bills are paid) get sent to the mother church in Graham, Washington via the ntcc invisible escrow account system; that just keeps building and building but is controlled by corporate ntcc.   Nobody ever dares to question what is done with that escrow money; now do they?

Disappearing Escrow Money?
The escrow money is like a big slush fund that the ntcc overseers of the Borg can control as they see fit.  Once a local pastor deposits the required 40% of the money (after church bills are met) that he collected from the local congregation, (people who are led to believe that money will go toward their local church expenses), that pastor and his congregation no longer have control over the money.  It goes into an "escrow account" that is controlled by corporate ntcc in Graham, Washington.

  • Why don't  the leaders of the ntcc show some financial transparency and let the members of the church know where their money is going?
  • Why aren't some local ministers and members appointed to oversee the escrow account from each local church?
  • The local congregation gave the money.
  • Why don't they have control over it?!!!

If ntcc corporate is doing right according to God, why are they being so secretive?  Could it be that they have much to hide?  Could it be that ntcc is laundering money or involved in some other unscrupulous activities?  Isn't it written that if your deeds are evil you try to hide from the light?  Look at the Gospel of John, chapter three:

And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.  Jhn 3:19

For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.  Jhn 3:20

But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.  Jhn 3:21
When you are doing right, you don't need to hide!

Money Laundering?
Money laundering takes place when money obtained illegally or under false pretenses is used to purchase real-estate that will later be sold for a profit.  We're not accusing ntcc of money laundering; but their secrecy and many of their practices as a non-profit organization do raise the question.

What will happen if they get nationally eXposed as a cult?  If Sixty Minutes or some other major news organization were to run the stories of the abuse of people and money, there would be enormous pressure to completely compromise the rest of the standards that ntcc has yet to compromise.  Otherwise everything in ntcc could come crashing down around them.  They would be eXposed for what they are; and people would begin to leave by the hundreds.

What would happen to the leaders who have been living off the money given by the masses?  Would they sell all of the ntcc properties and zero all of the invisible escrow accounts, making deposits in off-shore banks, and live the rest of their lives in luxury?  Isn't it true that they wouldn't 're-fire'; but they would 're-tire' and be independently wealthy, living off the interest of those fat invisible bank accounts?

Where Did Your Money Go?
Now that ntcc is having to address many issues that have been brought to the light publicly by this and other blogs, maybe they can address the issue of transparency.  It's long overdue; and there are many ministers and members that would love to know where their hard earned money has gone.  Our guess is that the ntcc will never be transparent.

  • Transparency equals Honesty.
  • Honesty equals Truthfulness.
  • Truthfulness involves Character.
  • Character requires Integrity.
  • Integrity requires Faithfulness.

In our opinion ntcc will NEVER be able to exhibit these qualities; because these qualities do not exist in their lives.

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C)  I Read This Post.
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E)   ntcc often replaces ministers who have built up a work with someone who is abusive or not skillful, resulting in the church closing its doors.
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