eX-members' of ntcc Blogspot

A safe place for Xers to share their stories and heal.

A place to learn what it's really like in the ntcc founded by Rodger Wilson Davis;
and run by his son-in-law, Michael Craig Kekel,
the father of the one vasectomy-rule-exception kid in ntcc, Grant Davison Kekel.

He Loves A House More Than God: Bonco Mansions of kekel (l) and davis (r)

He Loves A House More Than God:  Bonco Mansions of kekel (l) and davis (r)
"He loves a house more than God:" *Bonco* Mansions of kekel (l) and davis (r). Meanwhile, on the mission field: ntcc Missionaries to the Philippines "Rev. and Sis. Mackert ... found a place, 9 feet by 14 feet [9'x14'] and one bathroom. It is on the 6th floor and there is no elevator. The last place they had stayed, they had to share a common bathroom with the other tenants! Yikes! This place has their very own private bathroom, although the Rev. shared there is no seat on the throne, and no way to attach one…." from The Devonshire Files Sunday, May 28, 2006 Visit from the Mackerts (5/06). ** Should you know where the money ($$$$$) goes? **

Jesus In The Temple

Matt 21:12 And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves, Matt 21:13 And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.
Gal. 4:16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth? John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. 1 John 4:6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Skip To Blue Letter Bible Search Tool

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Saturday, December 25, 2010

Veronica Medina's Testimony of Life as an Impoverished NTCC Missionary

Following is a comment made by Veronica Medina, former ntcc missionary to Puerto Rico, ntcc bible school / seminary instructor, and ntcc minister. This comment appeared on The Dispatch, a Washington state online newspaper that ran a series of 5 articles about the NTCC by reporter Bruce Smith.

http://dispatchnews.com/main.asp?TypeID=1&ArticleID=2569&SectionID=6&SubSectionID=6&Page=12  (Article no longer appears in The Dispatch  archives.)  Here's Veronica's comment:

Posted: Thursday, April 08, 2010
Article comment by: Veronica Medina

Hi Bruce,

My name is Veronica Medina. I attended NTCC from 1971 to 1985. My husband and I always used our own money to move where ever RW Davis thought we should minister. Our last move was to Puerto Rico. We were led to believe that the organization would support us as missionaries there. We sold everything we had, packed up our 2 very young children and went there with great hope. After we paid our own airplane fare there and spent all the money we had to get established, we asked and did get money from NTCC to take care of some deposits needed. It was around $700. Little did I know that there would be no more money. It came to the point where "we had no money", not even enough to feed our children. I will never forget my sorrow when we attended a church down the street and my son who was 5 years old, was brought to me from Children's Church because he had the "dry heaves". You see, he had no food in his stomach to vomit. To make a long story short, my husband got a job working for $25 a day. We ended up getting (and I am ashamed to say it)  on welfare. I admit I didn't tell NTCC that part because I knew we would have to pay "tithes" on that money, but we needed it desperately. My husband and I both got very ill while in Puerto Rico and as a result did not have money for rent. I wrote to the leadership in NTCC explaining our plight. Did they respond? Oh yes, with a $100 LOAN. That was the last straw. We resigned and wanted nothing more to do with them. By the way, the explanation given to everyone was "the Medina's left for filthy lucre". I need to tell you, at the time I thought we were a single incident of their cruelty. But I have since learned that this is a pattern for them. They have no conscious when it comes to their ministers and missionaries. My story is just one story out of many.

By the way - life only got better after we left.

Saturday, December 18, 2010

Should We Be Afraid?

 Super Piety 
 In the ntcc holiness is a badge of honor. 
One primary focus of the ntcc is to instill fear into the hearts of its members.  It's been shared by the ntcc that Jesus preached more about hell than he did about heaven.  There are, after all, only two choices in life that matter:  Heaven or Hell.  As X-ers we all share a certain amount of fear because of the fact that we once were members of a cult that used fear to keep us in our places for as long as possible.  Fear kept me in my place for thirteen years while I was in the ntcc and also fear controlled my life for fourteen years after leaving the ntcc.  A few months ago I was released from all that fear when God revealed to me that His plan of salvation has nothing to do with attending a cult or being super spiritual by living in accordance with the rules of the so called "Man of God" the most of which can not be explained reasonably by the bible.

In the ntcc we were very legalistic.  This is a word that I once thought was used only by God haters and reprobates but have since seen the true meaning behind the word.  The Wikipedia definition below accurately describes legalism that is practiced by cults and becomes destructive to all that subscribe to it.

Legalism, in Christian theology, is a sometimes-pejorative term referring to an over-emphasis on discipline of conduct, or legal ideas, usually implying an allegation of misguided rigour, pride, superficiality, the neglect of mercy, and ignorance of the grace of God or emphasizing the letter of law over the spirit.  Legalism is alleged against any view that obedience to law, not faith in God's grace, is the pre-eminent principle of redemption. Its opposite is antinomianism, which is the alleged view that believing in Jesus Christ is the only requirement for receiving eternal life.

While in the ntcc all of the sins and standards were emphasized much more than the Grace of God.  People were kept in their places by the warnings of hell rather than being allowed to grow in God's grace and to serve God out of love.  While Jesus did speak about hell it was mostly to the pharisees and hypocrites.  To sinner's, his followers and his disciples, Jesus spake less about specific sins or hell and condemnation then he did to the hypocrites.  Why are there very few if any references to Jesus preaching "holiness or hell" to his followers?  I would have to say that holiness is not a prerequisite to being saved.  In the ntcc holiness is a badge of honor.  "LOOK WHAT MAKES US DIFFERENT FROM THOSE WICKED SINNERS".  In all of the apostles' teachings and admonishments we never hear hell used as an alternative for those who don't follow their man-made policies.  There are lots of teachings concerning holiness but never is there a threat that comes along with those teachings that you will go to hell for all eternity if you do not live by these teachings.  In the ntcc we have "super apostles that know much more than the bible teaches and have added policies and new sins to the bible:

If you date someone you love without the approval of the super spiritual orator of the church you are living in sin.  While in the past we have seen fondling and child molestation take place in the highest places in the ntcc, is this really God?

Facial hair on a man is wrong for what reason or reasons?  I must be very rebellious because I purposely grow facial hair.

You are not capable of deciding who your own friends should be and who you can have over to your house because that is a decision that only a super apostle can make for you.  If you are so flaky that you need someone to decide this for you, than you might just belong to a cult.

If you love God, you will do things for the pastor of your church, like clean his house, shine his shoes, wash his car, mow his lawn, etc.  I submit to you that if your pastor loves you, he will be a servant of all and do those things for you.  

Each church will extract as much money as possible out of its members' wallets and pocket books because large amounts of money are required to support the lavish lifestyles of the super god-like apostles in Graham that live in an entirely different world than all of their loyal subjects.

When there is no biblical justification for the rules or consequences that are preached in the ntcc they resort to the "end all, know all" scripture that is constantly being referred to over and over in the ntcc:  

Hebrews 13:17 "Obey them that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your soul, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you."  I've seen this used to their advantage more than for the good of the church member.  What a great chapter to read and to take in context.  I will never advocate that you should disobey your pastor if he is leading you in the truth; but if the dude is making up his own rules and threatening you with hell as a consequence of disobeying him, you might just be in a cult and would be served well by getting yourself and your friends and anyone who will listen to you out of there quickly.  

Should we be afraid of these people and the doctrine they tried to ram down our throats?  I would say absolutely not.  We believe that they should be scared.  There are many X-members of the ntcc that are so afraid to speak out against them; and I can understand that.  But I will say this to those souls that are afraid.  Do you think that they care for you?  If you came back to them, do you think it would be a prodigal son moment?  I know when I came back to God it was, but I would not even want to think about what it would have been like if I would have attempted to return to an ntcc church.  Let's look at them for what they are.  If they are right, than we need to take quite a few scriptures out of the bible and throw them away.   If they are wrong, then we need to realize that and stop being afraid of them.  

I am not advocating that informing current members of the ntcc that they are in a cult is going to help them.  It wouldn't have helped me.  But I do think that standing up for what we believe in and not being afraid to disagree with the false teachings of the ntcc is a step in the right direction.  If we live in fear of the ntcc, it will not help anyone but them.  They want us to live in fear.  They don't want us to post things that bring attention to their corruption and would love nothing more than for us to go away.  We will bring attention to their evil ways over and over and over again because they have built their kingdom upon the souls that they have discarded and they prosper because of the thousands that are no longer with them.  Have they sought us out one by one to get us back? No. Neither will they.  They don't want us back because we have been used up.  They want new blood that has many more years of life that can be shaped and formed into what best serves them.  

We are X-ers and we feel it is our moral responsibility to bring to light what the ntcc wants to keep in darkness.  We will continue to shine the light into the abyss of the ntcc and maybe others will see the light and escape.  From thirteen years of experience written by an ex cult member we continue to warn and admonish current and ex cult members to escape for your lives while you still can.  There is life outside of the ntcc; and we are are determined to live it.

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Friday, December 10, 2010

kekel, kekel, child molester!

ravening wolves
Originally posted under a different title, this topic bears repeating.

Some time ago a former ntcc minister, Vic Johanson, shared on a public blog how mike kekel had molested a 14-16 year old girl kekel was dating when kekel was 23-25 years old.

In a normal environment kekel's boasting would have earned him a mug shot and life-long registration on the sex-offenders' registry.

But in the New Testament Christian Church, kekel was promoted to Chief Executive Officer and President of the Orgnization, New Testament Christian Churches of America, Incorporated.

The groped girl's father was well aware of this incident and rather than reprove the action and defend his daughter from such abhorrent behavior, sanctioned this behavior. In our opinion that is so perverse.

Christians should protect their little girls from wolves, not throw them to them! 
**Please Note How One Man Sought To Protect His 15 Year Old Daughter**:

Soldier arrested for allegedly firing on man trying to pick up 15-year-old daughter:  Story Link Click Here [renewed 8-21-12]

To be clear, we are not advocating violence.  It would have been better for the father to call the police; and allow them to handle this.  But,  most normal men would respond strongly against any adult man making the moves on his 15 year old daughter.  **Normal Men**  

Vic Johanson's testimony follows. Note how he was disgusted with kekel's lack of remorse for his illegal behavior.  Impenitent kekel was boasting of it and making a declaration he would not repent!

Why would such a person as mike kekel be promoted in the ntcc unless their leader, r. w. davis, the groped-girl's father, was the same type of wolf, preying on innocent victims as some have alleged.

Why would anyone stay and be part of such an orgainization that condones and promotes such child molesting predators?

The Bible admonishes us against these type of reprobates stating:

Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. (Romans 1:32)

Not saying such an act constitutes an automatic death sentence. But that davis seems to have taken pleasure in kekel's molestation, promoting him to be ntcc's CEO.

In a comment on a previous discussion of this topic, 

Vic Johanson said:
"I reiterate: Mike Kekel, my old BS roommate, did boast to me and another brother that he was regularly making out with Tanya while he dated her. If it didn't happen, he's a liar, because he waxed rhapsodic about the powerful physical sensations that coursed through his body during these sessions.
As I have previously stated, the fact that he succumbed to this temptation was understandable, but what I and the other brother (who did go to RW about the situation--to no avail) found shocking was the absolute lack of any kind of conviction, and the vehement declaration that he had no intention of desisting, despite our remonstrations to him that such activity was inconsistent with the role of 'holiness preacher.' He was right in our face about it, and the other brother felt so guilty he narked him out. But nothing happened; there was some anonymous wrist slapping from the pulpit about not playing footsies under the table, blah blah blah, and the status quo endured.
One inaccuracy in your description, though: he wasn't a board member at the time, but a BS student. But the skids were being greased." -- Vic Johanson
Sadly the "other brother" who went to r w davis to report this matter has stayed with the ntcc.  Why?

Would you let a 23-24 year old man grope your 14-15 year old daughter?    How would you respond?

This topic has also been discussed on other sites:

More True Stories About The kekel Klan

Please be patient = )

Once again we ask:  Would you let a 23-24 year old man grope your 14-15 year old daughter? 

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E)   kekel Is Sick.
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Friday, December 3, 2010

Why Delete The Truth?

Hmnn...To Delete Or Not... 
On Deb's and Greg's blog, on the thread titled The Fear and Frustration in facing Pastor Davis. Fresh from the manly mind of Pastor Briggs... a former ntcc minister (who at one time lived in the Hawaii ntcc servicemens' home) named Kris M. asked Greg or Deb to remove all of Kris's previous comments from their blog.  Here's our reaction to this:  

Don and Ange said...

Greg, we are glad you don't have time right now to delete Kris's comments. 

Kris wrote such good  comments with real insight to how ntcc operates based solely on his personal experience and growing knowledge of the bible.  It seems counterproductive to remove these true stories.

We wonder if Kris has left the ntcc only physically, but is still held captive by the ntcc spiritually.

ntcc uses fear to control people.  ntcc even twists a natural fear or reverence of God into an unnatural fearful spirit that makes people do strange things.  People are too afraid of God; we wonder if that is the case here too.

God did instruct not to touch His anointed; yet God also records instances of His anointed being corrected and even rebuked.

The bible admonishes us to study the word so we can rightly divide the word of truth.

God never intended our reverence of Him to cause us to  hide hypocrisy.  Jesus clearly openly rebuked the hypocrites, warning them of impending judgment.

We don't need to fear eXposing ntcc's rampant hypocrisy, and double standards, and blatant sin.  We should see it as our duty to sound the trumpet to warn others of the ntcc's false doctrines just as the apostles clearly warned Christians of false teachers; writing letters that are now the books of the new testament.  They constantly detailed the differences between real Christianity and hypocrisy.  There is no shame in the truth  and no need to delete or hide our comments or articles based on real life experiences and knowledge of the truth.

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