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and run by his son-in-law, Michael Craig Kekel,
the father of the one vasectomy-rule-exception kid in ntcc, Grant Davison Kekel.

He Loves A House More Than God: Bonco Mansions of kekel (l) and davis (r)

He Loves A House More Than God:  Bonco Mansions of kekel (l) and davis (r)
"He loves a house more than God:" *Bonco* Mansions of kekel (l) and davis (r). Meanwhile, on the mission field: ntcc Missionaries to the Philippines "Rev. and Sis. Mackert ... found a place, 9 feet by 14 feet [9'x14'] and one bathroom. It is on the 6th floor and there is no elevator. The last place they had stayed, they had to share a common bathroom with the other tenants! Yikes! This place has their very own private bathroom, although the Rev. shared there is no seat on the throne, and no way to attach one…." from The Devonshire Files Sunday, May 28, 2006 Visit from the Mackerts (5/06). ** Should you know where the money ($$$$$) goes? **

Jesus In The Temple

Matt 21:12 And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves, Matt 21:13 And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but ye have made it a den of thieves.
Gal. 4:16 Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth? John 8:32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. 1 John 4:6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Skip To Blue Letter Bible Search Tool

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Tuesday, November 23, 2010


Resistance is futile.  You will be assimilated.
This first video, taken from excerpts of  Star Trek,  explains why The Borg considers The Collective Consciousness to be better than individuality: 

" So much like the borg, the ntcc also creates drones that serve one purpose and one purpose only:  to build an empire. "
"The ntcc is not building a church where people love God and serve Him freely.  The ntcc is  building a financial empire where people are expected to give every drop of sweat and every dime they have so that the elite few ntcc 'leaders' in Washington State can benefit [$$$]."
Borg Assimilation:
The Borg were a species of drones that were made up of mechanical and organic parts.   When a person or persons came in contact with the Borg and were thought to be 'worthy' of assimilation, the Borg would assimilate them by injecting into the victims' blood stream nano-probes; which would attach themselves to the victims' red blood cells.  These nano-probes, in turn, would continue to replicate and construct mechanical parts within the victims' bodies; that would cause them to be controlled by the collective consciousness of the Borg.    The victims would then be assessed to determine if their "biological" or "technological distinctiveness" were 'worthy' to be added to The Collective's 'perfection'.

The Collective considered the victims' will in the matter to be irrelevant.  

The Borg would first identify themselves by saying, "We are the Borg".  Then they would tell the victims that they were to be assimilated and also remind them that their situation was hopeless by making statements like:

  • "Existence as you know it is over." 
  • "Resistance is futile."
  • "We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own." 
Once assimilation took place the victim would turn into a machine with a mind that was controlled by the collective consciousness of the Borg.   This individual who had been transformed into a drone would then be driven to assimilate others ['soul-win'] into the collective in the same manner.   This process would take place without mercy over and over again until an entire species was added to the Borg collective.

Cult Controls:
A close parallel can be drawn between many elements of this assimilation process and many of the techniques and tactics used by the cult we refer to as ntcc.  One distinction that we will make is that people are not taken against their own will; rather they are lied to and shown a future of "Gawd blessing them" with "wisdom" and  "financial security" after they have willingly submitted, not to God, but to the desires of the collective consciousness of the ntcc.   Fear is then instilled in these members as the Borg leaders scream at the top of their lungs about the consequences of leaving ntcc, painting the dire picture that hell is the only alternative for those who leave the cult.

Breaking Your Will:
When this assimilation is accomplished, victims also become totally controlled and manipulated by the leadership of the ntcc.  The first thing the ntcc 'leaders'  go after is your will.  Your will must be completely broken down before you can be added to the collective.  They can not accomplish their objectives in your life unless you completely succumb to their will and follow their teachings without question or forethought.

'Subjection' Means The Borg Has Full Control:
This systematic breakdown of the individual which is assimilation can take place quickly in some cases depending on a person's background.  A person that has been abused all of his or her life and is shown this wonderful future of eternal tranquility will often surrender quickly; because all of the sudden they are made to feel important and part of something fantastic.  Others need to be openly rebuked and humiliated in public in order to 'bring themselves into subjection'.  Ahem.

Control of Finances:
After your will is broken then the ntcc goes after your pocketbook.  In order for them to exist they need your finances.  Not only do they want your money, but they don't want you to have any to spend on yourself.  This is a very important step in assimilation into the ntcc.  This will make or break you as a "Christian".  In the ntcc if  you pay tithe, you are saved; if you don't, then,  according to ntcc:

"You need to get saved!"

ntcc Money Grubbing:
I remember many instances in which 'pastors' [hirelings]  would come to me and ask me how much money an E-4 or an E-5 earned in the Army.  Or these 'pastors' [hirelings] would even cut out the pay-scale from the back of The Army Times to make sure that each soldier was paying every penny expected of them!  In ntcc the emphasis placed on tithe was many times equal-to or greater-than the importance of the blood of Jesus in a person's life.   According to ntcc twisted theology, you could not have one without the other.

In ntcc "All Christians pay tithes and give in offerings!" This was required to be announced in each of six mandatory services per week.  If you did not pay tithe, then according to the ntcc:
"You need to get saved!"

Loss Of Individuality:
Once the ntcc has broken your will and taken your money, the ntcc begins to strip you of every bit of individuality that you have ever had.  Not only do they not pay you, but they don't pay you to think. You are expected to obey every extra-biblical man-made rule without question, even if it contradicts God's Word!

You have to dress the way they want.  You must conform or you will be shown the door.  That means no make-up for you ladies.  And you must wear only dresses or skirts.  Men, shave those whiskers, or be thought a reprobate.  Put on those suits; but don't even think about a double breasted suit.  That means you have a double heart.  And when you are in a suit, you men may only wear a white shirt.  Anything else might clash or be a sign of Pride.  Shoes must be Wingtips.  Ties must match your socks.  Never wear blue with brown.  Souls are dying and going to hell.

Causing Confusion:
In the ntcc many times you are literally damned if you do and damned if you don't.  I know this sounds like cursing but damnation is a huge part of what ntcc uses to keep its members living in fear and complete subjection.  One favorite battle cry of the ntcc founder was "If you don't like it, there's the door.  I was here first.  I'll be here after you're gone."   And you know what happens to anyone who leaves the Borg, right?  Hell.  Reprobation.  (According to ntcc.)  Damned if you do; damned if you don't.  And the rules keep changing.

Shifting Doctrine:
I'm going to get very plain here and introduce a subject that many consider to be perverse and disgusting; but it is real and illustrates this point.  I can not count the times that I've heard members and the leadership of the ntcc talk about masturbation.  I've heard preachers and members joke about it and condemn it.  I've heard ntcc pastors that were married say that they masturbate.  [Why?]  And I've heard ntcc pastors preach to single brothers that masturbation is a sin.

If you were to ask the question you would be blasted; but if you were to be guilty of 'doing it' you would also be blasted.  This in itself illustrates how much control the ntcc has over people.  

Sex In The ntcc:
Why is this even relevant in the ntcc?  Is it realistic to think that the ntcc would control what a person does in private?  Or that ntcc would manipulate a person's sex life?  Well, ntcc does!  I know single brothers in the ntcc that have been involved with the ntcc for twenty years;  but because these men allegedly "are not bible school  material" they are living in celibacy against their own will.  And the ntcc has convinced these poor men to blame themselves or think that God is not blessing them.  But the reality is that ntcc has rules in place forbidding men from marrying any woman 'who does not attend ntcc faithfully'.  That means she has to conform to all the ntcc dress codes and pay tithe and give in offerings and attend church each time the doors are open.  Needless to say, many ntcc men are forced to remain single due to the ntcc forbidding to marry.

These examples of the shifting doctrine on masturbation and the forced celibacy illustrate the degree of control ntcc has in a person's life.  It is not pretty what the ntcc does to people in exchange for their unwavering loyalty.  The question can also be asked on many other topics:   "Where does the ntcc stand on this issue or that issue?"  In many cases the ntcc straddles the fence, causing confusion, guilt, and unnecessary hardships.

'Soul Winning' = Assimilating Others:
To complete this vicious cycle, once you are assimilated, you are expected to assimilate others.  Not only are you now in a cult, but you are expected to produce fruits:  More cult members.  So much like the borg, the ntcc also creates drones that serve one purpose and one purpose only:  To build an empire.  The ntcc is not building a church where people love God and serve Him freely; but ntcc is building a financial empire where people are expected to give every drop of sweat and every dime they have so that the elite few ntcc 'leaders' in Washington State can benefit [$$$].

Human Devastation:
Many people were buried inside the great wall of China when it was constructed.  And, we fear, many souls are also being destroyed in the building of the New Testament Christian Churches of America, Inc. financial empire and real estate holding company.

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Tuesday, November 9, 2010

Old Time Preaching Replaced by Skits and Workshops

What is this madness?  I guess things are just not working out for the ntcc anymore.  Not too long ago they used to have old fashioned Camp Meetings and Holy Ghost filled Conferences, or so it seemed; preaching and teaching and fellowshipping is now to be replaced by a new and progressive style of religious antics.  A spiritual feast?  The foolishness of preaching is being replaced by the foolishness of conference-style services and activities while the "power and demonstration" are to be replaced by skits and demonstrations.  

I know I'm getting old and sometimes the possibility of dementia creeping in is a scary thought but are you kidding me?  When all else fails it's time for the ntcc to have workshops about ministry related topics such as music, choirs, PA systems, Church Admin, Children's Church and more!   These sound like very exciting times in the ntcc.  Let's pack up our oil puking junkers and drive a couple thousand miles to Washington so they can give us campus tours and hand out information packets for potential students and aspiring ministers.  Excuse me a second while I ram two fingers deep into my throat so I can puke at the thought of what the ntcc has turned into.  While these people are continuing down this path of compromise and activities I guess that God is going to have to move through another organization and raise up another man so that His gospel of Christ being lifted up and glorified can be preached.  It's just not happening any more in the ntcc.  

In all fairness, I guess there's nothing wrong with skits and workshops, but come on!  This is the very thing that Rev. Davis and Ashmore used to preach about.  Worldliness and religion.  If we can't get our numbers up by preaching old time salvation through the blood of Christ let's do something new.  Activities, tours, skits, demonstrations and workshops and at the bottom of the list is prayer meetings.  It's gonna be awesome!!  It's gonna be fun!!  It's gonna save you money on food and hotel expenses?  Please explain this one to us mIke.  Are you going to open up your homes and motor homes to church members so they can have a place to camp out?  Or is attendance so far down that the dorms are empty?  If for no other reason, come to conference because Washington is beautiful.

What really gnaws at my gizzard is the final disclaimer in this announcement.  "Some things listed above are subject to change but the date and place of the conference is confirmed".  That's just wonderful.  You mean we are going to pack up our crayons, construction paper and scissors and drive all the way to Washington just to find out that the agenda has changed?  You are going to lure us thousands of miles out to Graham in hopes of seeing skits and demonstrations, just to do what, take up a bunch of offerings?   When will you realize that it's not working anymore?  You can't change the house of God into a theater and expect people to come from all around to see skits and demonstrations.  Or maybe you can if you are a cult and your members are so brainwashed that they don't know the difference anymore.  

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Thursday, November 4, 2010

The Root Of All Evil

It's a shame what the love of money makes people do.  In some ways, I'm glad that I've never had much money.  It seems like those that do can be categorized in a few different groups:

1.  The Greedy

2.  The tight-wads

3.  The practical hard-workers

For the love of money is the root of all evil  ...
While much has been shared about the pursuit of riches within the ntcc, it seems that they will never change.  In my 13+ years in the ntcc, none of the 14 preachers that I observed had much of anything.  This to me was never unusual; because there was a realization of the sacrifice required by all of the pastors in ntcc, at least the ones that I knew of in the churches that I was attending.  It was always shared that if you gave willingly God would bless you.  What always did strike me as odd, was the many times in which there was serious money rolling into churches and very little of it ever seemed to accumulate at least not in a place where the local pastors or members could access any of it.
The ntcc is run much like the United States Government is run.
The government has their hand in every aspect of your life. ... 
And so does ntcc!

The ntcc is run much like the United States Government is run. Uncle Sam takes a big chunk of money off of the top of your pay check called income tax. This is much like tithe in that it is a percentage of your income before any of it gets spent. Then you have State taxes that come out of your check before you see anything in your bank account. Then you have other deductions like Social Security, unemployment insurance and the list goes on. This is everything that is taken out of your check before you get to spend a penny. Then when you go to spend the money you have to pay sales tax on everything you buy. Food tax which is usually more than sales tax when you buy food in a restaurant. Hotels are taxed and they pass that high tax-rate onto you; (by law they have to). Just about every bill you pay to include the phone bill, energy bill, cable, high-speed internet, water, trash (and the list goes on) has taxes on the bill; taxes which are over and above the services that you are paying for. The government has their hand in every aspect of your life. If this is not enough you then have taxes that are incorporated into every business that you patronize. For example if the Government makes Walmart pay taxes on its profits, do you think that Walmart is going to eat those costs themselves? What they do is they incorporate the price of those taxes into the price that you pay at the register so that you pay their taxes for them. This happens in every business; the expenses of operating are passed along to you the customer. When the Government gets greedy they come out with a new tax that supposedly is on the rich or the wealthiest people such as Gasoline and oil companies. They tax the fuel right at the pump. Why not?  The oil companies are rich; they can afford it.  Right? This tax is again paid by you the customer. So what do they want to do? As they have done in the past they are suggesting that the oil companies pay "windfall" tax on their profits. Who do you think will pay for that? Us. Gas will be so expensive that we'll have to spend ten bucks just to put enough gas in our lawn mower to cut the grass. If your parents die and leave you their life savings which they have paid taxes on all their life, then you have to pay taxes on it before you spend it; if they repeal the Bush tax cuts, it will be 55% taxed. Then you got property tax, personal property tax, automotive taxes and the list goes on and on and on.

The ntcc has a very similar system to the United States Government. First of all you have tithe which is paid off of the top of your check before Uncle Sam Gets a hold of it. Wait a sec, didn't uncle sam already get a hold of it? Then it is very highly encouraged (from behind the pulpit) that we are not to be tightwads and pay to the penny; but we are to pay more than 10% so God can have room to bless us. Also, just in case we receive blessings throughout the week, throw a few extra bucks into the envelope so you'll be covered. So there we have it; tithe is taken care of.  What next?  Offerings.  This is where they really dig into your wallet. That little velvet bag with the two wooden handles gets to make its rounds at least 5 or 6 times a week. I've seen it passed around in Sunday school and morning and evening church services, bible studies and even on special occasions during fellowship after the service when everyone is eating cake and drinking Cool-aid. But there is nothing wrong with this; it is a free-will offering right? I've seen ntcc preachers sweat and slobber from behind the pulpit trying to get people to give more money. The part of the service that is supposed to be 10 seconds long right before the offering plate makes its rounds was often turned into a mini sermon and fire was issued forth from behind the pulpit before the basket was even prayed over in anticipation of receiving a large wad of cash. I've even seen that pesky little bag passed around more than one time in the same service. Okay, we'll cut you some slack because everybody takes up offerings, don't they?

Here are a few more examples of how the ntcc is like the federal government:

Budget offerings:  This is a tax that is incorporated into their system of money extraction for the       purpose of covering expenses that were not able to be covered by previous taxes; I mean offerings.

World Missions:  This is a tax that is used to export ministers overseas so that they can live in complete and total poverty and receive very little help from the government; ur I mean ntcc leadership, which they have given so much of their money to and entrusted with their welfare.

Building Fund:  This is a very special fund of money that is set aside for the expansion of the church or so the church can grow.  More real-estate. I thought that was what the escrow fund was for; but that shows you how much I know; I was just a church member (who often kept the books for ntcc ministers)  Guess they will make a rule, oops, "policy" against that now.  All you ministers better bone up on your math!  We can't afford to have the members knowing what really happens to all that money!

Revival Fund:  This also is a very necessary offering that is taken up so that when the overseer goes on vacation in his Recreational Vehicle, ur I mean when He and his wife come to preach a revival, ahem, they will be able to fill up their company purchased RV; and they can get to the next place and be able to afford to eat out every night at restaurants and such.  But wait, the people at the next location will pick up that tab just so they can "be a blessing to The Man Of Gawd".

There are also many things that are expected like taking the pastor out every weekend; which I used to do anyway; because I felt sorry for the guy never having money.  Which brings us to the question, "Why would they always be broke with all of the tithes and offerings and special offerings that were taken up?

The answer is that the ntcc taxes that were imposed on the pastors were even more than that which was imposed on the members.  I'm sorry; I keep saying taxes when what I really mean to say is tithe and offerings.  If you think that the average church member has a lot of tribute to pay wait till you see what the average pastor has to pay in addition to housing, a church building, utilities, food and clothing, and transportation including to and from conference.  Actually the pastor only has two or three things that he must pay for.  The two biggies are church tithe and pastor's tithe.  One of them is tithe on everything they make and the other is tithe on tithe and everything the church brings in.  In order for the pastor to survive he has to get a job;and in some cases now his wife has to sin and get a job also; and they have to put everything into the General fund to meet the requirements of ntcc.  While all tithe income and Sunday morning offerings goes onto the tithe ledger then 10% off the top goes to Graham; thus the term 'tithe on tithe' ("which for years has been a source of ble$$ing for the churches"--mcUk).  The rest goes to the pastor.  Wait a sec, I've got it wrong again.  40% of what's left in the tithe fund goes to an escrow fund; and then the pastor gets what's left unless there is not enough in the General fund, which there very seldom is, so the money ends up in the General fund; and the local pastor gets nothing.  The General fund is supposed to be used to pay all of the bills; and this is why there is so much push for people to give above and beyond what they are able. Then the local pastor has to pay all of the special offerings like world missions and such.  It's no wonder a lot of pastors want their members to pay tithe on their tax returns which is misrepresented as an "increase" when in fact that money was already tithed on by the recipient in most cases.  I remember rwd would preach, "I hope Gawd gives you members just like youurself!"  This explains why the escrows were introduced to "prevent misappropriation, mismanagement and/or theft of each church's finances and to provide them a reserve account for coverages of extraordinary expenses" like Grant's secular education.  Oops.  Did I say that?  I'm sorry jury, strike the words "Grant's secular education" from the record.  That was uncalled for; or was it?

The very few ntcc ministers that are able to succeed in this environment can be categorized into the three types of people that we listed at the beginning of this thread.  The greedy take up all the offerings and pass on the expenses to the church members without sacrificing their own personal lifestyles.  They expect everyone else to sacrifice; but they themselves are not willing to... Sounds like davis and kekel to us.  The tightwads operate on the same principle by extracting as much money as they can from their members and also sacrificing themselves to put every penny into the work to keep it afloat.  The last type of person is very, very rare in the ntcc; and that is the practical hard-working individual that is able to get a very good paying job, or able to get a large following of church members that can sustain the financial obligations of the church without asking for more than people are able to give.    

Does this sound crazy to anyone else besides me? Do you ever wonder why 99.9% of the people in the ntcc are poor?  They say: "God will bless you if you pay your tithe and offerings;" but where are "God's ble$$ings" flowing within the ntcc?  They are not flowing down hill; but rather they flow uphill to the Pacific Northwest's ntcc leadership specifically.  Graham, Washington is where you can find "the ble$$ings of God" within the ntcc.  Not in the Servicemen's homes where the brethren are borrowing from each other to put enough gas in their cars to get to work, or busting open their piggy banks to gather up enough pennies to give in an offering. Not in the bible school dorms where the students are eating ramen for dinner every night, but a few doors down where you find the beamers parked in the driveways waiting for their owners to jump in them and take them to the SeaTac mall for another spending spree where tanya kekel can buy an Alpaca wool scarf for $90 at Nordstroms (on sale!).  I wonder how many bs students witness this riotous living and just leave?  What keeps the majority of them there is fear rather than love.  Hell is placed over their heads as a consequence to bucking the system or questioning the high and mighty leadership of the ntcc. The ntcc is an organization full of scared preachers that are under enormous pressure from their superiors to "make ends meet" and have to extract money out of people that give more than they should have to because they are fearful of "failing God" if they are unsucce$$ful.

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